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JOE SOAP

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Re: Possible Plot Details Revealed For Pete Travis' Dredd?
« Reply #15 on: 12 March, 2011, 06:35:13 pm »
so why did the russkys no go aswell to say the yankies talk shite as they were the first in space


In a nutshell: the lack of dynamism, and ironically, control and belief in a communist run bureaucracy. Too slow to get anything done and a lack of consensus support. Much in the way a communist bank doesn't function -it's just a place where money is held, no such things as investments or interest- the space program in Russia was half hearted, no one really believed in it, much like the propaganda they knew they were reading in Pravda everyday.

That's why US propaganda worked so well, the citizens were unaware it was propaganda -renamed Public Relations by Edward Bernays so it would be easier for the public to swallow- the propaganda's target was the US citizens themselves, not the Russians, so they would get behind such a large and expensive project as the Space-Race and believe in it. It worked.

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Re: Possible Plot Details Revealed For Pete Travis' Dredd?
« Reply #16 on: 12 March, 2011, 06:46:56 pm »
The ISS:
It's just 300km away - in an emergency you can get home by just hopping in an old Soyuz module and more-or-less dropping.
Getting there requires 10% of the fuel required to reach the moon.
It's protected from cosmic rays and effects of solar flares by Earth's magnetosphere.
It's a clean zero-G environment.

A base on the Moon:
Almost 400,000km away.
Journey requires 10 times the fuel required for the same mass to reach low earth orbit.
Bombarded by high-energy cosmic rays and exposed to the risks of radiation from coronal mass ejections.
Dusty and gritty.

They just aren't remotely the same thing.  Incidentally, the figures also explain why successfully going to the surface of the moon, and returning, 6 times (and reaching lunar orbit on 4 other occasions) was such a huge achievement, and why it's so bloody annoying to so many of us that so many morons deny it ever happened.


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Re: Possible Plot Details Revealed For Pete Travis' Dredd?
« Reply #17 on: 12 March, 2011, 08:38:21 pm »
so how many times did they say they went there.with the tecno they had then and what they have now the can build a base there :) :D ;) >:( :P :( :o

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Re: Possible Plot Details Revealed For Pete Travis' Dredd?
« Reply #18 on: 12 March, 2011, 11:11:26 pm »
Fake!

Don't be silly, Judge Dredd encountered the original lunar lander while he was Judge Marshall of Luna 1, so it had to be real. ::) Sheesh.

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Re: Possible Plot Details Revealed For Pete Travis' Dredd?
« Reply #19 on: 12 March, 2011, 11:31:58 pm »
so how many times did they say they went there.with the tecno they had then and what they have now the can build a base there :) :D ;) >:( :P :( :o

The ISS is estimated to cost over €100 billion over its 30 year lifespan.  You can assume that an equivalent moonbase would cost at least 10 times that, given the mass-to-orbit fuel requirements, difficulty of resupply, increased wear-and-tear and need for shielding.   So roughly €1 trillion (I'd say that's a monumental underestimate too).  Have fun selling that one to Congress, when there are so many popular wars to fund.

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Re: Possible Plot Details Revealed For Pete Travis' Dredd?
« Reply #20 on: 12 March, 2011, 11:38:03 pm »
But when the good old US of A controls the entire earth, the wealth of other countries can be used leaving them to prosper.
I look forward to seeing my great grand son captaining one of those interstellar star ships.




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Re: Possible Plot Details Revealed For Pete Travis' Dredd?
« Reply #21 on: 12 March, 2011, 11:43:05 pm »
But when the good old US of A controls the entire earth, the wealth of other countries can be used leaving them to prosper.
I look forward to seeing my great grand son captaining one of those interstellar star ships.

As I understand it Kerrin has that covered, for a small fee.

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Re: Possible Plot Details Revealed For Pete Travis' Dredd?
« Reply #22 on: 13 March, 2011, 12:09:15 am »
Kerrin's a Cylon.

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Re: Possible Plot Details Revealed For Pete Travis' Dredd?
« Reply #23 on: 13 March, 2011, 01:42:06 am »
Just think, on a lesser forum, this thread would have been locked after the second post. Instead we get a great discussion about the moon!

Personally I think the moon landing was faked. I mean, how can you land a huge spaceship on something the size of a marble? Next time DO SOME RESEARCH NASA!

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Re: Possible Plot Details Revealed For Pete Travis' Dredd?
« Reply #24 on: 13 March, 2011, 01:58:51 am »
Personally I think the moon landing was faked. I mean, how can you land a huge spaceship on something the size of a marble?






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Re: Possible Plot Details Revealed For Pete Travis' Dredd?
« Reply #25 on: 13 March, 2011, 02:05:25 am »
http://www.explainingthefuture.com/helium3.html
Helium-3 is the only viable reason for going to the moon, this will in my opinion create a new moon race when energy supplies dwindle on Earth.
Already China is looking seriously at mining projects for the moon and I'm sure I read that India would enter the space race for this reason as well.
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2010/10/china-launches-second-moon-mission-is-mining-helium-3-an-ultimate-goal.html

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Re: Possible Plot Details Revealed For Pete Travis' Dredd?
« Reply #26 on: 13 March, 2011, 11:29:56 am »

Is the Lunar cycle near it's maximum? It's the only possible explanation for the growing insanity posted on this thread.

We all know the Moon is not the size of a marble but made of cheese.
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Re: Possible Plot Details Revealed For Pete Travis' Dredd?
« Reply #27 on: 13 March, 2011, 11:44:53 am »


Well the moon on March 19th will be closer to Earth than it's been since 1992. The full moon that night will appear about 14 percent larger and significantly brighter than usual, so it should be at least the size of a tennis ball.



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Re: Possible Plot Details Revealed For Pete Travis' Dredd?
« Reply #28 on: 13 March, 2011, 01:06:11 pm »
Moon madness aside I will never read the script for the film. It just wouldn't be the same to know what's going to happen.

I remember being amazed by of all films 'Easy Rider' not my usual Sci Fi shoot 'em up and I'd have hated to have read the script or anything about it before hand. That ending with that amazing flying bike shot, the baby boomers sixties coming crashing to an end it just wouldn't have held the same magic for me.  
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Re: Possible Plot Details Revealed For Pete Travis' Dredd?
« Reply #29 on: 13 March, 2011, 01:10:16 pm »


Well the moon on March 19th will be closer to Earth than it's been since 1992. The full moon that night will appear about 14 percent larger and significantly brighter than usual, so it should be at least the size of a tennis ball.



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So moon based Space Nazis led by Elvis are attacking on that night? With zombies? Have I got that wrong somehow? Or is the moon going to crash like a flaming meteoric world destroyer into planet Earth?

I just ask, as if so, a certain person needs to get a move on, with that ebay spaceship of his, in order to rescue wealthy and essential boarders who shall remain nameless.
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