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« Reply #6975 on: 17 May, 2020, 10:30:00 PM »
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« Reply #6976 on: 21 May, 2020, 09:24:41 PM »
Here's a question: has the meaning of 'objective' changed recently?  Over and over I get told, generally rudely,  that people's unpleasant opinions about films, comics, music, and by extension their creators' deficiencies,  are not just valid but objectively true.

Is it really possible to assert objectivity about art and entertainment, the value of which is surely in the eye of the consumer, and thus subjective? I understand the notion of valid criticism,  certainly you can make observations about technical issues or structural shortcomings from a position of expertise, but can you really claim objectivity about the value of art?

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« Reply #6977 on: 22 May, 2020, 01:54:33 AM »
That's a tricky one without a concrete example. There may be some aspect of a piece of art that one could apply an objective truth to (such as breaking the fourth wall, or drawing outside the panel boundaries), but whether you find it enjoyable or not could not be an objective truth because, as you say, there's another word for that - and it's subjective.

Citizen Kane was technically innovative at the time of its release: we can point to the objective truth of that in its use of deep focus and wipes. Whether you enjoy watching it is another matter.

Perhaps people are abusing "objective" in the same way that "literally" is often used these days to mean "metaphorically". Whenever that happens my head literally explodes, which is subjectively impossible. 
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« Reply #6978 on: 22 May, 2020, 10:30:20 AM »
So when Prof Bear says a film is "objectively good" or "objectively bad" I normally assume he is being funny with the use of the term. But now I'm not so sure...

Nah, he's having a laugh.
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« Reply #6979 on: 22 May, 2020, 11:55:20 AM »
Isolation and the internet has led me to start listening to a favourite of my parents', Steeleye Span.

That's me digging out the vinyl and putting on Old Masters then :)

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« Reply #6980 on: 22 May, 2020, 12:31:46 PM »
So when Prof Bear says a film is "objectively good" or "objectively bad" I normally assume he is being funny with the use of the term. But now I'm not so sure...

The Prof is obviously - objectively, even - the exception to all such considerations.  His observations have the status of FACT.  No-one could suffer through the kinds of media he consumes without his critical faculties being honed and purified in the white-hot flame of truth.

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« Reply #6981 on: 22 May, 2020, 01:55:03 PM »
Isolation and the internet has led me to start listening to a favourite of my parents', Steeleye Span.

That's me digging out the vinyl and putting on Old Masters then :)

My brother and I used to have a right old laugh about the lameness of lyrics like 'all around my hat, I will wear a bright blue ribbon'.  Now I find myself getting chills to the mix of ethereal folk and snarling rock guitar in gems like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NrHkf7rB34

Also the one lyric that seems to unite all mutations of Black Jack Davy / Gypsy Davy / Raggle Taggle Gypsy / 7 Gypsies is the one about the runaway lady having boots made of 'Spanish leather'. They don't even share a tune or a title, but the origin of her footwear seems to be important.
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« Reply #6982 on: 23 May, 2020, 03:31:22 AM »
You know what we don't see enough of? Science fiction Folk music.

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« Reply #6983 on: 23 May, 2020, 11:27:09 AM »
So when Prof Bear says a film is "objectively good" or "objectively bad" I normally assume he is being funny with the use of the term. But now I'm not so sure...

The Prof is obviously - objectively, even - the exception to all such considerations.  His observations have the status of FACT.  No-one could suffer through the kinds of media he consumes without his critical faculties being honed and purified in the white-hot flame of truth.

Does this mean I have to reappraise Batman & Robin?


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« Reply #6984 on: 25 May, 2020, 10:26:16 PM »
After a gap of five years, I'm finally watching the second series of Gotham.  Five years ago, I wasn't too happy to see the Joker (if it is him) given a backstory, but now that sacred cow has been slain by Joaquin Phoenix, I have to say that Gotham guy is perfect for the role.  If they must keep making Batman films, I can think of worse people to be part of the franchise.  Jared Leto, for example.
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« Reply #6985 on: 25 May, 2020, 11:19:05 PM »
After a gap of five years, I'm finally watching the second series of Gotham.  Five years ago, I wasn't too happy to see the Joker (if it is him) given a backstory, but now that sacred cow has been slain by Joaquin Phoenix, I have to say that Gotham guy is perfect for the role.  If they must keep making Batman films, I can think of worse people to be part of the franchise.  Jared Leto, for example.

Oh. It's not him.  :-[
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« Reply #6986 on: 31 May, 2020, 08:37:36 PM »
After weeks of isolation, I finally got some hair clippers and gave myself a haircut. What do you think of the results?


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« Reply #6987 on: 05 June, 2020, 04:54:30 PM »
Just because you're wearing a facemask it is not an excuse not to brush your teeth.  ::)

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« Reply #6988 on: 09 June, 2020, 12:10:17 AM »

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« Reply #6989 on: 12 June, 2020, 08:53:25 PM »
I wonder if it's time the Trailers section of this board was put to rest.  Last time anyone posted there, Obama was still president.
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