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Re: Star Trek: Axanar
« Reply #15 on: 22 May, 2016, 11:03:23 am »

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Re: Star Trek: Axanar
« Reply #17 on: 17 June, 2016, 11:00:18 am »
Or is it?
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/06/16/the-star-trek-axanar-lawsuit-is-not-over/

Does seem a bit mean but if you've spent millions on a franchise you hardly want someone making a web series that makes money for them rather than you. They should make Axanar partners and use that relationship to test out ideas and story lines that reflect the Trek Universe but which don't interfere with any continuity shit. If you have a controversial story perhaps it would be better to test it out on the web rather than waste thousands on scripts/ footage only to have the money men say it's 'too expensive, Hail Hydra' anyway.
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Re: Star Trek: Axanar
« Reply #18 on: 17 June, 2016, 11:06:51 am »
I'm with Paramount/CBS on this one.

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Re: Star Trek: Axanar
« Reply #19 on: 17 June, 2016, 11:19:29 am »
I think the fact that they haven't gone after anyone else - not even the fan productions funded through Kickstarter - tells you that CBS/Paramount aren't just being jerks about this and have specific problems with this production in particular.  The fact that they've been selling Star Trek merchandise might have something to do with it, as might the fact that the money raised for the production of the movie - raised using the Star Trek brand - has been used to set up a rival studio specialising in streaming content.
I'm behind fan-productions 100% and if the ban-hammer had come down on Star Trek Continues I'd probably boycott CBS/Paramount for life, but Axanar is kind of taking the piss.

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Re: Star Trek: Axanar
« Reply #20 on: 17 June, 2016, 12:30:32 pm »
The studio has a pretty strong case.

"Finally, several weeks ago, Galanter decided to take a proactive route, and reached out to Loeb & Loeb, the law firm representing the studios in the lawsuit. He shared everything he knew about Axanar with the lawyers, and hung up the phone feeling much better.

"I don't know if I was ever a Doe, but I don't care, to be honest with you," he said. "If they want to call me to testify, I will be an excellent plaintiffs' witness. And I have a lot to say."

The biggest piece is what Galanter says he can't understand Peters denying — that "Star Trek: Axanar" was indeed Star Trek."


http://1701news.com/node/1177/node/1201/abrams-axanar-lawsuit-going-away.html


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Re: Star Trek: Axanar
« Reply #21 on: 23 June, 2016, 07:00:23 pm »
Paramount have issued guidelines for future fan films.

5 is pretty brutal.

The fan production must be a real “fan” production, i.e., creators, actors and all other participants must be amateurs, cannot be compensated for their services, and cannot be currently or previously employed on any Star Trek series, films, production of DVDs or with any of CBS or Paramount Pictures’ licensees

http://www.startrek.com/fan-films

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Re: Star Trek: Axanar
« Reply #22 on: 23 June, 2016, 07:21:16 pm »
Overly-specific, and yet somehow also nebulous: what does "amateur" actually mean in legal terms?  How does any of that stop "parody" productions that not only use official Star Trek merchandise and logos to generate money and which are openly sold as physical and streaming media, but often contain pornography and other filth that drags the brand into disrepute?
They're perfectly within their rights, of course, but it seems too far to wipe out pretty much every fan production you've heard of as well as the dozens - likely hundreds - of fan-made cgi movies/series built using game engines for Star Trek Online that will be affected because they come in more than two parts or last longer than 30 minutes.

I guess that's me done with CBS/Paramount.

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Re: Star Trek: Axanar
« Reply #23 on: 23 June, 2016, 07:29:03 pm »
I want to see one done adhering rigidly to these guidelines to show how fucking restrictive they are.

Still it's Peters and the Axanar crew that shit in the jacuzzi in the first place.

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Re: Star Trek: Axanar
« Reply #24 on: 23 June, 2016, 08:41:31 pm »
In can't include 'profanity, nudity' or 'depictions of illegal activity.' Bang goes my GoT version of Trek. ::)
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Re: Star Trek: Axanar
« Reply #25 on: 23 June, 2016, 09:13:25 pm »
I would also point out that the NuTrek movies feature profanity and sexually suggestive material like when Kirk grabs Uhura's boobs, or when he hides under her bed watching her undress.

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Re: Star Trek: Axanar
« Reply #26 on: 23 June, 2016, 11:04:47 pm »
Overly-specific, and yet somehow also nebulous: what does "amateur" actually mean in legal terms?  How does any of that stop "parody" productions that not only use official Star Trek merchandise and logos to generate money and which are openly sold as physical and streaming media, but often contain pornography and other filth that drags the brand into disrepute?
They're perfectly within their rights, of course, but it seems too far to wipe out pretty much every fan production you've heard of as well as the dozens - likely hundreds - of fan-made cgi movies/series built using game engines for Star Trek Online that will be affected because they come in more than two parts or last longer than 30 minutes.

I guess that's me done with CBS/Paramount.


This is what happens when corporate lawyers get involved.

Unfortunately to avoid exploitation of their property, CBS/Paramount were forced to put things down in writing, so naturally, to protect themselves from some unforeseen circumstances that could arise from future productions or legal cases out of their control, they made the rules more restrictive to cover all the bases and their arses.

All because some mad-cunt "fan" believes he has the right to the Star Trek license and ruined it for everyone.



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Re: Star Trek: Axanar
« Reply #27 on: 23 June, 2016, 11:10:09 pm »
All because some mad-cunt "fan" believes he has the right to the Star Trek license and ruined it for everyone.

Yeah. This. I'm not one for blindly supporting massive corporate interests, but this one really smacks of someone taking the piss and buggering it up for everyone else.
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Re: Star Trek: Axanar
« Reply #28 on: 23 June, 2016, 11:11:16 pm »
A bit more from the guy who was involved with Prelude to Axanar before he walked (along with a few others).

https://www.facebook.com/gossbook/posts/10153712534230732

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Re: Star Trek: Axanar
« Reply #29 on: 24 June, 2016, 03:17:24 pm »
I would also point out that the NuTrek movies feature profanity and sexually suggestive material like when Kirk grabs Uhura's boobs, or when he hides under her bed watching her undress.


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