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Dredds recent Rejuv
« on: 01 January, 2017, 11:33:16 am »
Fellow Dredd heads, I was pondering the recent rejuv ole Dreddie has just had. Do any of think this will drop kick any further talk within continuity of his slowing down,  it being as quick etc and put paid to any potential retirement/death as his body now alledgedly younger and fitter. I believe it is a bit of a cop out as this has been such a big part of Dredds story line for the last 20 plus years starting with the Murphs death and then one of episode of him being in the bath at his Rowdy Yates appt and his internal monologue mentioning all his aches and pains. I would really like to start an in depth discussion around this recent move on the part of Rebellion
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Re: Dredds recent Rejuv
« Reply #1 on: 01 January, 2017, 01:25:15 pm »
You do know this isn't his first rejuve?

I get the distinct impression the aches and pains are in his soul.
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Re: Dredds recent Rejuv
« Reply #2 on: 01 January, 2017, 01:48:21 pm »
You do know this isn't his first rejuve?

You just made that up.

They went for a fudge, whereby Dredd's skin and muscles are new - so he can get in fights and doesn't look like Keith Richards - but his bones and some of his organs are still 73. If someone wants to make Dredd's age a plot point again, I suppose he can grumble about his small colon, or something.

JOE SOAP thinks there's mileage in Dredd still having an old brain, but I'm not sure the world is ready for a story where Dredd fights his way across 2000 miles of irradiated wasteland, battling muties, McDonalds clowns, and robot soldiers, only to forget what he went to Megacity two for in the first place.



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Re: Dredds recent Rejuv
« Reply #3 on: 01 January, 2017, 02:46:47 pm »
I know of only one other rejuvenate and that was to repair the damage done to him after necropolis, wasn't there also some mention of drugs taken by all Judges accept PSI to help keep them functional as they got older? I still believe they are copping out on Dreddie getting really old and not being able to carry on

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Re: Dredds recent Rejuv
« Reply #4 on: 01 January, 2017, 04:49:15 pm »
I know of only one other rejuvenate and that was to repair the damage done to him after necropolis

Wasn't a rejuve. See the replies to your previous thread on this topic.

Anderson made a passing remark to not being able to take "the standard anti-ageing pills" [1], which some readers interpret as meaning anti-ageing drugs are issued as standard ... rather than Anderson saying she can't take just any old anti-ageing drugs.

Even if you're wedded to that interpretation of that one passing reference, neither Dredd, Hershey, nor any of the medics Dredd has consulted over the years have ever mentioned Dredd taking them. Also, anti-ageing drugs aren't really a thing in Dredd [2].


[1] Lock-in, Meg 227. This is just one of the many things from Grant's Anderson strips which are never mentioned again in Wagner's Dredd strips

[2] There's stookie. That might be an example of the non-standard anti-ageing pills Anderson would be able to take without interfering with her psi-talent. If it wasn't illegal

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Re: Dredds recent Rejuv
« Reply #5 on: 01 January, 2017, 05:22:00 pm »
I know of only one other rejuvenate and that was to repair the damage done to him after necropolis

Wasn't a rejuve. See the replies to your previous thread on this topic.

Anderson made a passing remark to not being able to take "the standard anti-ageing pills" [1], which some readers interpret as meaning anti-ageing drugs are issued as standard ... rather than Anderson saying she can't take just any old anti-ageing drugs.

Even if you're wedded to that interpretation of that one passing reference, neither Dredd, Hershey, nor any of the medics Dredd has consulted over the years have ever mentioned Dredd taking them. Also, anti-ageing drugs aren't really a thing in Dredd [2].


[1] Lock-in, Meg 227. This is just one of the many things from Grant's Anderson strips which are never mentioned again in Wagner's Dredd strips

[2] There's stookie. That might be an example of the non-standard anti-ageing pills Anderson would be able to take without interfering with her psi-talent. If it wasn't illegal


Though they did synthesise Stookie substitute from Rad Roaches in a Daily Star Dredd ( Though Dredd predictavly vetoes it)

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Re: Dredds recent Rejuv
« Reply #6 on: 01 January, 2017, 05:44:26 pm »
I think the point of Carousel was to put this issue off for a few more years, as nobody wants to deal with it in the way that you suggest.

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Re: Dredds recent Rejuv
« Reply #7 on: 01 January, 2017, 06:05:41 pm »
Wasn't a rejuve. See the replies to your previous thread on this topic.

You keep asserting this as if it was a fact, and you need to stop.
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Re: Dredds recent Rejuv
« Reply #8 on: 01 January, 2017, 06:14:49 pm »
Yeah. Speculation is fun, but it doesn't pay to get too tangled in continuity when it comes to Dredd. Remember the strip can just change abruptly if the right creator gets bored.

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Re: Dredds recent Rejuv
« Reply #9 on: 01 January, 2017, 06:33:35 pm »
Wasn't a rejuve. See the replies to your previous thread on this topic.

You keep asserting this as if it was a fact, and you need to stop.

You need to stop telling other people what to say or do. If you want to argue the point, feel free. I linked to my reasoning above and backed it up with references.

None of this matters, since Carousel (Meg 375) was definitely a rejuve, but the best argument Dredd didn't have a rejuve until Carousel is that he didn't look any younger and went on moaning about getting old.



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Re: Dredds recent Rejuv
« Reply #10 on: 01 January, 2017, 06:56:18 pm »
Further to new my told that he has. Ever has had a rejuv before, it clearly shows after Necropolisthat he did. That is a fact. Moving on from that I am more curious if this means they are binning the Dredd is old and will not be around forever backstory and attempt to attempt a soft recon

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Re: Dredds recent Rejuv
« Reply #11 on: 01 January, 2017, 07:32:40 pm »
topic=44013.msg940646#msg940646]above[/url] and backed it up with references.

The wording of "This is no simple rejuve job." doesn't preclude the possibility that part of the procedure involved some kind of rejuvenation process. In fact, it could be argued that the procedure may have left Dredd in better condition than if he'd only been rejoovied.

Moving on from that I am more curious if this means they are binning the Dredd is old and will not be around forever backstory and attempt to attempt a soft recon

I doubt they'll bin it entirely without something drastic happening.

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Re: Dredds recent Rejuv
« Reply #12 on: 01 January, 2017, 08:08:45 pm »
Further to new my told that he has. Ever has had a rejuv before, it clearly shows after Necropolisthat he did. That is a fact.

I provided an argument, with supporting evidence, that he didn't. If you want to dispute that argument, citing your own evidence, this would be a discussion.

Young Giant (655), the last time Dredd creator Carlos Ezquerra drew the character prior to Necropolis (link).

Death Aid (711), the first time Dredd creator Carlos Ezquerra drew the character after Necropolis (link).

Look the same. Here's a picture of what Dredd creator Carlos Ezquerra thought a twenty year old Dredd looked like (Kraken, 674). Looks different*.


* If there was a single line of dialogue that supported the idea Dredd had age-negating treatment at any point prior to Carousel (Meg 375), someone would be quoting it right now. The medics who examined Dredd in Sector House (prog 1216), Dust To Dust (Meg 374), and Carousel (Meg 375) mention arthritis, his implants, and his age, but not that time he became twenty again, or the pills he takes that keep him twenty forever.

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Re: Dredds recent Rejuv
« Reply #13 on: 01 January, 2017, 08:21:20 pm »
Yeah,I dont think he got any younger after Necropolis.Thou,its not always easy to say by the chin.

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Re: Dredds recent Rejuv
« Reply #14 on: 01 January, 2017, 08:26:27 pm »
You need to stop telling other people what to say or do. If you want to argue the point, feel free.

I did argue the point: that it's ludicrous to suggest that the artificial regeneration of damaged tissue would have no restorative effects. I'm not arguing it again, because you didn't have a good rebuttal then, and you don't have one now. You think otherwise, and that's fine. I, and others, hold a different point of view, hence my advice that you stop asserting your belief as incontrovertible.
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