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Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
« Reply #45 on: 08 June, 2017, 10:22:48 pm »
Can't help much with the background to that story, except that it was almost certainly writen by Pat Mills. I know you've been reading Thrillpower Overload, but I can't recoomed highly enough Steve McManus' The Mighty One - his autobiography covering the creation of 2000ad and his stint as editor during the period you're currently reviewing. And Pat Mills has his own version of events just published - 2000AD & Judge Dredd: The Secret History - so far only as an e-book, but I'm holding out for a physical version (Summary - "management were all bastards and every decision I made was right")

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« Reply #46 on: 09 June, 2017, 02:48:17 am »
Definitely! I'm about halfway through the Mighty One now (though the effects of me reading it won't show up on the show for a while, we record pretty far ahead.) And while I don't recall him talking about this this story specifically, his book is really valuable. There's a long section about planning the first Judge Dredd annual that I'm very excited to bring to the podcast. I've already got Mills's book queued up for afterwards!
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Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
« Reply #47 on: 09 June, 2017, 07:37:22 am »
Yeah that dredd stories fricking weird....it must be the first instance of a dredd story that can in no way whatsoever make sense in the "canon" of the series

what the hell were they thinking

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« Reply #48 on: 09 June, 2017, 08:19:36 pm »
Definitely! I'm about halfway through the Mighty One now (though the effects of me reading it won't show up on the show for a while, we record pretty far ahead.) And while I don't recall him talking about this this story specifically, his book is really valuable. There's a long section about planning the first Judge Dredd annual that I'm very excited to bring to the podcast. I've already got Mills's book queued up for afterwards!
also forgot to mention the Future Shock DVD - the extended version has about three hundred hours of Pat Mills. but the basic version is definitly worth a watch. In addition to some fantastic anecdotes from the creators about that time, there are interviews with people like Karen Berger who admits that Vertigo could never have happened without 2000ad

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« Reply #49 on: 11 June, 2017, 09:43:04 am »
Please let me know what you think of the episode! I'm also very interested to hear any insights/observations about the infamous Holiday Party story in this annual!

Don't worry, you're nearly away from the Space Facts and Ill Fitting Reprint era of the annuals - although the IPC annuals are actually vastly superior to their rivals, World Distributors, whose offerings for their licensed stuff like Doctor Who are often so bizarre and off model that it's almost unrecognisable.  And consider yourselves fortunate that you're not doing the Starlord Annuals, as the last one has a six page Stronty Dog script, one other new strip that's completely unrelated to anything that appeared in the actual comic, then eighty pages of filler material and particularly crappy reprints.

There was a four year ban on reprints, so they're finally able to reprint 2000AD strips beginning in the 1982 annuals and it improves dramatically after that happens, and the 1981 Judge Dredd Annual is a shining example of what the annuals could be like.  It also means that you'll eventually be able to do some of the Starlord stories in the podcast as the likes of early Strontium Dog and Ro Busters get reprinted in the specials and annuals.

I don't know what they were thinking of with the Dredd party story - it's an eight page comedy strip that doesn't have any jokes in it.  Weird to think that the Dan Dare annuals have the first full colour Dredd strips in them...
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« Reply #50 on: 12 June, 2017, 10:28:38 am »


In our thrilling thirty-ninth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest Comic with Progs 128-132 of 2000 AD, covering September of 1979. Join us as the ABC Warriors head to Mars, SPREAD THE WORD! Also we discuss the proper terminology for breaking into a ship, sing along with Ursa, and kill a ton of geese with Bill Savage!

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« Reply #51 on: 12 June, 2017, 02:30:55 pm »
Great podcast again!

Yeah Johnny Teardrop has a bit of a Bruce Forsyth thing physically - he was a mainstay of 70s and 80s gameshows, and hosted the UK version of Dancing with the Stars called Strictly Come Dancing until recently.

His catchphrase parodied in Sob Story is 'Didn't they do well' which comes from the generation game, where they familes competed against each others performing tasks demonstrated by experts.

Johnny Teardrop seems like an amalgam of Brucie, with the camper aspects of Larry Grayson, who took over from him on the Generation Game.


Rumpus' outfit is a Teddy-boy outfit, which started appearing in the 1950s, rather than the 1970s.
is a riff on a Fiat TV commercial, which ended with 'handbuilt by robots' this was around the time automation was coming in.

There was also a sketch parodying it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU-tuY0Z7nQ

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Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
« Reply #52 on: 15 June, 2017, 05:46:20 pm »
New one out today and it is the 1980 2000ad annual. Is the last of the terrible annuals? I think the 1981 one was where they started being good.

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« Reply #53 on: 15 June, 2017, 06:32:13 pm »
I'd argue that the 1980 Annual has it's moments, but it's still pretty rough. Looking ahead the 81 Annual looks pretty fun, though it still has older legacy comics and a lot of short stories and other prose. To me the 82 annual is where things really pick up, when they're allowed to start reprinting launch 2000AD stories and stuff. Nothing against Phantom Patrol or Guinea Pig, but the art and writing style of these older stories really stand in stark relief to even the stuff in the annual, let alone what's going into the Progs at this point.
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« Reply #54 on: 15 June, 2017, 06:37:47 pm »


In our thrilling fortieth episode Fox and Conrad continue their journey through the Galaxy's Greatest comic with the 1980 2000 AD Annual (Annuals are dated by the following year). This episode we discuss the final Dan Dare story, the strange fate of Mega City 4, and we learn our 2000 AD IQ! We're 40 episodes in, and we hope that like us, Tharg is a big part of your life!

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Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
« Reply #55 on: 15 June, 2017, 10:26:10 pm »
Excellent podcast guys, I'm only a couple of episodes in but am here for the duration. A month of progs each time works well.

In the Annuals, I can't rate '1981' even though I was an excitable new fan at the time. '1982' is a big leap forward. And the first Dredd Annual was a thing of beauty, as we all know.

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« Reply #56 on: 17 June, 2017, 09:11:01 am »
Got as far as episode 22, which has been vaped from Stitcher????

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« Reply #57 on: 17 June, 2017, 05:51:16 pm »
Got as far as episode 22, which has been vaped from Stitcher????

Whoa weird, sorry about that! I think I see why episode 22 is missing but I'm not sure how to get it back on Stitcher :( In the meantime, you can download the file directly from the site and you should be able to play it in the Stitcher app as a work around. I'm really sorry for the inconvenience, and thanks for bringing this to my attention!
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Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
« Reply #58 on: 17 June, 2017, 06:38:55 pm »
No worries!

Listening to the download now... I'll be working away in a couple of weeks and intend to catch up as near as I can then - your enthusiasm for these early stories is very infectious - If you love the early progs, stamp ads and all, you really owe it to yourself to check out some Solar Wind! http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/omnivistascope

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Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
« Reply #59 on: 17 June, 2017, 07:55:06 pm »
Seconded - That's some quality small press there.

Hang in there - the annuals do get better!!

Just thinking if you had started this a year ago we'd be desperately trying to talk you into coming over for the 40th party so you could meet all these ex-thargs and others