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karlos

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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #15 on: 06 December, 2019, 09:12:29 AM »
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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #16 on: 06 December, 2019, 09:41:21 AM »
I struggle with QOS because of the shaky action and accountant villain. SPECTRE aside from the opening sequence just doesn't engage me. But I love SKYFALL despite the faults and CASINO ROYALE just plain rocks despite the action being front loaded. And "You Know My Name" is best theme in ages.
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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #17 on: 06 December, 2019, 10:52:34 AM »
QoS does have a nonsdescript baddie, but the action is top-notch. The Siena stuff is proper Bond, albeit with a Bourne accent.

Meanwhile I can enjoy various setpieces in Skyfall, but as soon as they head for Scotland, it degenerates into a misfiring ITV adaptation of a James Patterson novel, complete with unlikely underwater boghole sequence.
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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #18 on: 06 December, 2019, 12:53:54 PM »
Both Skyfall and Spectre could easily lose 30 mins or so - from their respective endings (I'll always have a slight soft spot for Skyfall's, though - as we got to see Albert Finney one last time).

And, yes, that scene in Skyfall really is unpleasant.

QoS works best, as someone up above said, as an extended epilogue to CR.

I'm very upbeat about NTTD, largely because of Waller-Bridge's involvement (so glad to see they haven't fridged Lea Seydoux's character - a VERY good sign).


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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #19 on: 26 December, 2019, 12:59:41 AM »
So for my Christmas Bond film I picked QUANTUM OF SOLACE  which I don't think I've seen for nine years, maybe.

Actually, yeah, it is a cracking Bond movie once you get beyond the terrible villain, fucking atrocious song (good titles though) and the shaky cam and terrible editing obscuring some fine looking stunts.

There's also some great reversals of normal Bond tropes in there. After the Sienna scenes which are set at a festival (because it's always a festival when Bond is in town) and Bond regressed, so does all of the local colour. Everywhere he arrives is grubby as anything and the carnival dancers are replaced by real slice of life stuff; stray dogs, homeless people and, best of all, a random bloke doing his ironing. And when he's back to Her Majesty's Bond, we finally get the gun barrel logo.

There are moments of brilliant visual storytelling (except in the action) and Craig gets several moments where he is just cool as (flipping the bike, all scenes with Mathis, the reveal of Quantum people at the opera , skipping across hotel balcony). Olga is also a very good Bond Girl; better than Seydoux in SPECTRE by a long shot and we didn't really get one that made it to the end in SKYFALL.

And David Harbour, Stana Katic (Castle) and Oona Chaplin all pop up.
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Re: 007: No time to die
« Reply #20 on: 26 December, 2019, 11:12:15 AM »
Skyfall had many, numerous issues.

But it also had Albert Finney, and any movie could be improved by that mad Salfordian himself being in it.