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Re: PLEASANTLY SURPRISED BY THE NEW STAR TREK: DISCOVERY SERIES
« Reply #405 on: 27 January, 2019, 09:51:10 am »
Yes. I really enjoyed that. Handwaving of the ethics of using spore drive aside, it was pretty much Star Trek.

These episodes are oddly structured though; the "threat of the week" only seems to take up 15 or 20 minutes in the middle of the episode.

Picard and co. Would have been beamed down in the church after the opening titles and only back on the bridge for the coda. Not saying it's wrong; just different.
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« Reply #406 on: 27 January, 2019, 02:42:32 pm »
I enjoyed it but felt like shaking Pike. This planet is 100+ years travel away from the Federation. Short of Discovery, no one is coming and these are humans who were already mucked with by someone without 'General Order 1' holding them back.

Enjoy your subsistence life guys! Wouldn't want you to come back to the federation and live in a post-scarcity utopia.

PS Bear the person responsible for all your crime stuff got dropped into a nuclear reactor, not sure what more punishment you're looking for. Argument for Sisko holds true for all of the Discovery crew too, who also saved the Federation.... I don't think Jim can read writing this small. Surely.

Also - anyone else dying to know if/what happened to Lorca Prime and whether we'll see Jason Isaacs again...
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Re: PLEASANTLY SURPRISED BY THE NEW STAR TREK: DISCOVERY SERIES
« Reply #407 on: 27 January, 2019, 02:45:39 pm »
Theblazeuk that is also how i felt. General Order 1 does not make sense in this case since it is humans and not a new specie

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Re: PLEASANTLY SURPRISED BY THE NEW STAR TREK: DISCOVERY SERIES
« Reply #408 on: 27 January, 2019, 02:53:53 pm »
Bear the person responsible for all your crime stuff got dropped into a nuclear reactor, not sure what more punishment you're looking for.

She was alive and well at the end of the series, from what I recall.  The only person who got nuclear reactored was the captain she appointed to the ship full of illegal weapons programmes that she started, and after he died, she and Spock's dad still tried to do that genocide thing.

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« Reply #409 on: 27 January, 2019, 03:15:39 pm »
Also - anyone else dying to know if/what happened to Lorca Prime and whether we'll see Jason Isaacs again...

I’ve wondered about him too, although I hope he doesn’t turn up too soon. A few more episodes on, or even season 3 (should it be renewed) is fine.

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Re: PLEASANTLY SURPRISED BY THE NEW STAR TREK: DISCOVERY SERIES
« Reply #410 on: 27 January, 2019, 04:21:06 pm »

General Plot Rule #3: Any character falling into water/undefined fog, cloud or darkness/a mysterious energy vortex IS NOT DEAD.


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« Reply #411 on: 27 January, 2019, 07:24:18 pm »
General Plot Rule #3: Any character falling into water/undefined fog, cloud or darkness/a mysterious energy vortex IS NOT DEAD.

Subsection 3.1: [Game of Thrones] - additionally anyone stabbed to death, burnt alive or with a definitely incurable terminal wasting disease.
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« Reply #412 on: 27 January, 2019, 11:19:37 pm »
General Plot Rule #3: Any character falling into water/undefined fog, cloud or darkness/a mysterious energy vortex IS NOT DEAD.

Subsection 3.1: [Game of Thrones] - additionally anyone stabbed to death, burnt alive or with a definitely incurable terminal wasting disease.

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« Reply #413 on: 28 January, 2019, 11:48:43 am »
I enjoyed Ep 2. I’m quite surprised at the direction the story seems to be taking but it’s certainly got me hanging on for the next episode.

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« Reply #414 on: 28 January, 2019, 01:08:59 pm »

General Plot Rule #3: Any character falling into water/undefined fog, cloud or darkness/a mysterious energy vortex IS NOT DEAD.
Oh I think the 'dark' Lorca is definitely a goner. We saw his body destroyed, if I remember correctly.

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« Reply #415 on: 28 January, 2019, 01:50:45 pm »

General Plot Rule #3: Any character falling into water/undefined fog, cloud or darkness/a mysterious energy vortex IS NOT DEAD.
Oh I think the 'dark' Lorca is definitely a goner. We saw his body destroyed, if I remember correctly.

Yes Lorca is gone but this is sci-fi and anything can happen.

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Re: PLEASANTLY SURPRISED BY THE NEW STAR TREK: DISCOVERY SERIES
« Reply #416 on: 28 January, 2019, 02:46:31 pm »
Yeah, you see a body destroyed every time they beam somewhere.
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Re: PLEASANTLY SURPRISED BY THE NEW STAR TREK: DISCOVERY SERIES
« Reply #417 on: 28 January, 2019, 03:48:16 pm »
As low as my opinion of STD is, I will go out on a limb and say even it's not bad enough to bring back Lorca to have him turn out to be the baddie behind the plot to kill all life in the universe (or whatever it was) because he got V'Ger'd with that superweapon in season 1 whose purpose was to kill all life in the universe (or whatever it was).
It'll probably turn out to be something really clever and original like we expect from (checks notes) Alex Kurtzman.

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« Reply #418 on: 02 February, 2019, 04:06:10 am »
Just watched episodes 1-3 of season 2 (after none of season 1) and I'm ... pleasantly surprised.

My Star Trek pedigree is pretty much everything except for Enterprise (I watched the first one or two and was bored and disappointed).  This newest Trek is both definitely Star Trek but also not the same (alternative) reality as the original series.  I just can't think of them being in the same universe because the tech in this is so much beyond anything they had in TOS.

Anyway, I like that one of the crew is infested with a malevolent fungal intelligence which was sucked out of her by space gauntlets and then became a levitating fat ball.  Also, Pike is great.  I was a little disappointed that the Klingon mother wasn't throwing real decapitated heads into the flaming pits of Q'onoS, but I'm new to the characters and so wasn't sure of motivations.

WAY more fun than Enterprise - which was just too effin' hokey for me (and I loved him in Quantum Leap.)
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« Reply #419 on: 02 February, 2019, 08:54:37 am »
I just can't think of them being in the same universe because the tech in this is so much beyond anything they had in TOS.
My issue with this (common) criticism, is that warp drive and transporters aside, the tech we have NOW is beyond TOS! Discovery is "the future imagined from a 2018 perspective" whilst TOS was "the future imagined from a 1960s perspective".

I've recently been watching a lot of TNG, and there's an episode where the big reveal is that the computer has been infected with a program that is spreading from system to system .. almost like ... a virus - cutting edge in the 80s, but now you just wonder why they don't have any anti-malware running.
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