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Re: Prog 2081 - Homies under der hammer
« Reply #30 on: 17 May, 2018, 01:02:52 pm »
Which leaves Skip Tracer, making a snappy five-page debut. Definite shades of Brink in the setting - or even Topsoil from the Dan Dare strips. Not sure how to put this in a way that doesn't sound insulting (which I don't want to do, I loved it!) but it seemed a bit more of an easy read than most other 2000 AD strips right now. Might be barking up the wrong tree but I thought perhaps it was something written for 2000 AD Regened but upgraded to the regular prog instead?


Nah - there's nobody being killed in Regened, is there?  I thought that was one of the limitations on the Cadet Dredd strip - that it had to be shooty-free.

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« Reply #31 on: 17 May, 2018, 01:12:51 pm »
Strontium Dog: As Silverman is a robot, with no DNA, how can they prove the job was done? Would camera footage be enough, in this instance? Actually, since he is a robot, covered in near indestructible armour, I reckon he’s still alive out there. He wouldn’t be able to do much, unless he’s got some rocket boosters or anti-grab tech, and I guess he’ll run out of power sooner or later (unless he is self charging* or solar powered) but there’s a possible loose end which could be taken up in a future tale...)


It's a loose end I spotted too, as I was reading it - I was expecting there to be some sort of follow-up to that panel showing how the robot would actually be killed/destroyed.  The sequel story will have him bumping in to Edwin, during one of this long periods drifting in space.

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Re: Prog 2081 - Homies under der hammer
« Reply #33 on: 17 May, 2018, 03:12:43 pm »
Strontium Dog: As Silverman is a robot, with no DNA, how can they prove the job was done? Would camera footage be enough, in this instance? Actually, since he is a robot, covered in near indestructible armour, I reckon he’s still alive out there. He wouldn’t be able to do much, unless he’s got some rocket boosters or anti-grab tech, and I guess he’ll run out of power sooner or later

I'm no science-talking guy, but the extreme temperatures and lack of air pressure are as much a part of the hostile environment of space as the lack of oxygen.

Dude's armour is Silveranium*, but any fluids in his hydraulics would boil off or freeze. Presumably, the chipset inside his cock-tip head is just as vulnerable to atmospheric extremes as my phone, which goes mental if I spend too long outside in Winter. Being teleported into space would probably be worse?


* not actual (made-up) name

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« Reply #34 on: 17 May, 2018, 03:18:57 pm »
Alpha could have plotted it for Silverman to go into the nearest star for safety's sake, I imagine it's more John thinking there could be mileage in bringing him back, and being a bit less trigger happy about offing villains and heroes these days.

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Re: Prog 2081 - Homies under der hammer
« Reply #35 on: 17 May, 2018, 03:23:52 pm »
Which leaves Skip Tracer, making a snappy five-page debut. Definite shades of Brink in the setting - or even Topsoil from the Dan Dare strips. Not sure how to put this in a way that doesn't sound insulting (which I don't want to do, I loved it!) but it seemed a bit more of an easy read than most other 2000 AD strips right now. Might be barking up the wrong tree but I thought perhaps it was something written for 2000 AD Regened but upgraded to the regular prog instead?


Nah - there's nobody being killed in Regened, is there?  I thought that was one of the limitations on the Cadet Dredd strip - that it had to be shooty-free.

Well, that's what I was getting at - planned for Regened but ultimately unsuitable.

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« Reply #36 on: 17 May, 2018, 06:15:53 pm »
Strontium Dog: As Silverman is a robot, with no DNA, how can they prove the job was done? Would camera footage be enough, in this instance? Actually, since he is a robot, covered in near indestructible armour, I reckon he’s still alive out there. He wouldn’t be able to do much, unless he’s got some rocket boosters or anti-grab tech, and I guess he’ll run out of power sooner or later (unless he is self charging* or solar powered) but there’s a possible loose end which could be taken up in a future tale...)


It's a loose end I spotted too, as I was reading it - I was expecting there to be some sort of follow-up to that panel showing how the robot would actually be killed/destroyed.  The sequel story will have him bumping in to Edwin, during one of this long periods drifting in space.

I just noticed I wrote (or my phone e autocorrected, maybe) 'anti-grab instead of 'anti-grav'.

I shall leave it as it is. I'm easily amused.

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« Reply #37 on: 17 May, 2018, 08:24:57 pm »
No proggage this week at X Towers. I've had three of the last five arrive more than 5 days later! One Saturday I got two progs.
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« Reply #38 on: 17 May, 2018, 09:25:25 pm »
If you like well-armed blokes hunting crims, this is the comic for you!

Very much liked that Dredd. Sure, it relied a bit too heavily on longterm reader knowledge to land its punchline, but I'm actually more unsure as to how much the ordinary citizen/crazy would know about Feyy's prophecy, much less the City of the Damned alternative ending.  However, this was another very welcome return to street-level silliness, following the last fortnight's biker grannies, and it was a clever idea and a well-structured story, as well as looking great. Yet again, I beseech Tharg for more of this secret-corrupt-ninja-judge-free type of stuff.

Deadworld was as excellent as always.  Wot, two Judge Child references in the same prog? What's a noob to do?

Not getting anything original from Skip Tracer (yet), but it's solid work and I love coming to grips with a new strip.

Sinister Dexter didn't end this superb run on a particularly high note, but it was certainly fun.  As others have said, a bit more playing with design of a strong concept might have helped it along.

Strontium Dog was an utter pleasure start to finish, and if that's Carlos in a last-minute gap-filling hurry, I'd like to see more - I thought it felt light and effortless, perfect for the story at hand.

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Re: Prog 2081 - Homies under der hammer
« Reply #39 on: 17 May, 2018, 10:35:09 pm »
Very much liked that Dredd. Sure, it relied a bit too heavily on longterm reader knowledge to land its punchline, but I'm actually more unsure as to how much the ordinary citizen/crazy would know about Feyy's prophecy, much less the City of the Damned alternative ending.

I did wonder about this, the Proteus side should be a bit more secret, but Old Stoney Face went around half the Cursed Earth (not to mention galaxy) showing people Owen's photo.

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« Reply #40 on: 17 May, 2018, 10:55:24 pm »
Heh, good point!  I did love the idea of the city living past its destined end (2120, I presume), and slowly rotting ever since.  The obvious echoes (distorted source?) of Feyy's vision in Necropolis (2114) and Day of Chaos (2134) have always fascinated me.

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Re: Prog 2081 - Homies under der hammer
« Reply #41 on: 18 May, 2018, 12:15:33 am »
Nah - there's nobody being killed in Regened, is there?  I thought that was one of the limitations on the Cadet Dredd strip - that it had to be shooty-free.
Well, that's what I was getting at - planned for Regened but ultimately unsuitable.

I'm a bit confused at that.  What age range is Regened aimed at?  The early progs were packed with people being shot dead by the hero; they were (presumably) targeting 7-12 year olds at the time.  Even 'U' certificate Star Wars has a fairly high body count.

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« Reply #42 on: 18 May, 2018, 11:03:55 am »
Times change.

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« Reply #43 on: 18 May, 2018, 11:33:55 am »
I'd say things have reversed - 1970/80s 2000AD more violent than the films that kids would see - these days, the comics aimed at that age group less violent than the films they might get to see.

But even then you could see how there was a backlash against violence in films with Spielberg removing guns from ET or Lucas removing squibs from Star Wars special editions.

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« Reply #44 on: 18 May, 2018, 01:52:58 pm »
Even 'U' certificate Star Wars has a fairly high body count.

Especially graphic too, if you consider BBQ Beru and strangled Captain Antilles...