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Re: Prog 2086 - Bet on Red!
« Reply #15 on: 18 June, 2018, 06:04:32 am »
I had assumed she was coming through a forcefieldy doorway thing. That’s what it looks like to me.

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Re: Prog 2086 - Bet on Red!
« Reply #16 on: 18 June, 2018, 10:15:03 am »
This cover business can start some chewy discussions  :)
There's less detail than I'd like, but that's personal taste. Far worse in that regard was the green Anderson from 2074, but people seem to love that cover so hey-ho  :|

I didn't even think 'bath, of blood' either, despite 'bloodbath' featuring in the strapline. It's clear once you look.

Originality is important. Truly original covers can be glorious. But a straight-ahead protaganist being gun-pointy isn't something I need to see again. Except, this one has enough going on to justify things.

Hm. Undecided!

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Re: Prog 2086 - Bet on Red!
« Reply #17 on: 18 June, 2018, 10:30:35 am »
Stylised picture of a 'vampire' assassin walking through a coffin-shaped plasma-like doorway in white space designed to drag your eye to the main area of the composition? Works for me.

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Re: Prog 2086 - Bet on Red!
« Reply #18 on: 18 June, 2018, 10:37:15 am »
Stylised picture of a 'vampire' assassin walking through a coffin-shaped plasma-like doorway in white space designed to drag your eye to the main area of the composition? Works for me.

Yeah it totally works as ong as she's not supposed to be bathing in blood, which I don't think she is.

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Re: Prog 2086 - Bet on Red!
« Reply #19 on: 18 June, 2018, 10:58:16 am »
It's a cool pic of Durham Red, which incorporates elements of her character into an eye-catching design.
And it's bloody good!

Can't see the pount of reading more into it than that.

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Re: Prog 2086 - Bet on Red!
« Reply #20 on: 18 June, 2018, 12:59:16 pm »
Looks more like a Brigand Doom reboot to me.
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Re: Prog 2086 - Bet on Red!
« Reply #21 on: 18 June, 2018, 07:02:44 pm »
It's a cool pic of Durham Red, which incorporates elements of her character into an eye-catching design

Yeah, it's not a naturalistic image. It's no more represents someone in a coffin (or using a portal?!) than this classic cover illustrates the time Johnny Alpha went for a fly around Mars:




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Re: Prog 2086 - Bet on Red!
« Reply #22 on: 18 June, 2018, 07:34:46 pm »
The problem is it’s not clear cut what it is. Everyone saying it’s not meant to be taken literally is putting clear examples of other metaphorical covers (of course Dredd isn’t 50 ft tall, of course alpha isn’t falling in space). Problem is nobody can clearly say what’s going on with this cover - is it a ‘bloodbath’, is it a plasma coffin? What even is a plasma coffin? Is she lying down, standing up? What is the red stuff?

Confusion is emblematic of it not being a very good cover on a certain level.
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Re: Prog 2086 - Bet on Red!
« Reply #23 on: 18 June, 2018, 08:07:04 pm »
The problem is it’s not clear cut what it is.

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Re: Prog 2086 - Bet on Red!
« Reply #24 on: 18 June, 2018, 10:06:40 pm »
What do you mean...

bull, light, horse's head, legs, arms, and up-turned face...it's all pretty clear to me...

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Re: Prog 2086 - Bet on Red!
« Reply #25 on: 18 June, 2018, 10:37:58 pm »
What do you mean...

bull, light, horse's head, legs, arms, and up-turned face...it's all pretty clear to me...

Most clear-cut case of newspaper horse in a kitchen containing a burning apartment block* I've ever seen.



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Re: Prog 2086 - Bet on Red!
« Reply #26 on: 19 June, 2018, 11:21:46 am »
What do you mean...

bull, light, horse's head, legs, arms, and up-turned face...it's all pretty clear to me...

Said Frank Millar when he turned in ‘that’ cover.
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Re: Prog 2086 - Bet on Red!
« Reply #27 on: 19 June, 2018, 11:26:17 am »
Said Frank Millar when he turned in ‘that’ cover.

It mightn't have been quite on the scale of Guernica, but 'that' cover certainly elicits a similar response of raw horror...

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Re: Prog 2086 - Bet on Red!
« Reply #28 on: 19 June, 2018, 11:30:58 am »


So many questions.

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Re: Prog 2086 - Bet on Red!
« Reply #29 on: 19 June, 2018, 12:48:46 pm »
I know I'm an army of one here, but... I've grown to adore that Miller Dredd. So very very wrong, but I love it!