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Re: Patrick Stewart back as Picard in new series
« Reply #165 on: 08 February, 2020, 10:46:18 PM »
The Earth is still finite, Atlantis project notwithstanding, and much of humanity still lives there.

If I had to guess: World War 3 reduced the population, and then there was no stigma about using rubber johnnies.  Which we can take as a given since Kirk never caught Space AIDS.

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Re: Patrick Stewart back as Picard in new series
« Reply #166 on: 11 February, 2020, 12:19:58 AM »
Harry Kim did though.

Still chugging through DS9 Season 2: even when it's not great it's still really, really good. Almost every character is interesting in their own right and in how they interact with each other, and generally feel like they have lives and histories outside the demands of this week's crisis. Not something you can say about all Trek.

Odd running order in places: at one point O'Brien ends up missing or presumed dead in 3 consecutive episodes.
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Re: Patrick Stewart back as Picard in new series
« Reply #167 on: 11 February, 2020, 07:15:07 AM »
If I recall, the first season of Voyages was similarly "Where's Harry Kim?"
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Re: Patrick Stewart back as Picard in new series
« Reply #168 on: 11 February, 2020, 09:56:26 AM »
Reflecting on Picard so far, which I've almost universally enjoyed, I was surprised to find myself thinking "finally!" at the end of Episode 3.

 I can't help feeling that it's the structure that is a bit off, rather than the pacing. If the first two episodes (or if you like, just an old-style series premiere) had covered Dahj, Raffi, Beard Solo and Picard heading off into space, and then the third had addressed Soji, Hugh, Romulans in Starfleet and the Cube with maybe some B-plot cutaways of Picard and Crew in transit, it might feel like it's moving along a bit faster.

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Re: Patrick Stewart back as Picard in new series
« Reply #169 on: 11 February, 2020, 10:28:07 AM »

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Re: Patrick Stewart back as Picard in new series
« Reply #170 on: 11 February, 2020, 10:56:14 AM »
You may quote me on that.

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Re: Patrick Stewart back as Picard in new series
« Reply #171 on: 11 February, 2020, 02:01:24 PM »
I'm assuming that the weaponry was installed *after* he'd had a nasty scrap with secret Romulan death squads operating with impunity on Earth.

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Re: Patrick Stewart back as Picard in new series
« Reply #172 on: 11 February, 2020, 02:06:15 PM »
I'm assuming that the weaponry was installed *after* he'd had a nasty scrap with secret Romulan death squads operating with impunity on Earth.
Both the above are sensible answers to that question. :)

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Re: Patrick Stewart back as Picard in new series
« Reply #173 on: 11 February, 2020, 02:30:01 PM »
I'm assuming that the weaponry was installed *after* he'd had a nasty scrap with secret Romulan death squads operating with impunity on Earth.
Both the above are sensible answers to that question. :)
That's not how Star Trek fandom works.

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Re: Patrick Stewart back as Picard in new series
« Reply #174 on: 11 February, 2020, 02:56:13 PM »
I did think he'd take the Irish romulans with him; them being pretty handy in a fight and all.
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Re: Patrick Stewart back as Picard in new series
« Reply #175 on: 11 February, 2020, 06:41:43 PM »
And also terrific fun. Orla Brady has been magic, but they're really just a wonderful double act. All through the most recent fight scene I was genuinely concerned for their well-being.
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Re: Patrick Stewart back as Picard in new series
« Reply #176 on: 11 February, 2020, 07:58:42 PM »
I'm really enjoying this series.

I liked the most recent episode too but did feel a bit like saying "GET ON WITH IT!" To be clear, I wasn't bored at all. But it did feel like it didn't move the story along a whole lot.

Then again, largely enjoying something so slow paced indicates they're doing something right.

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Re: Patrick Stewart back as Picard in new series
« Reply #177 on: 11 February, 2020, 08:11:10 PM »
As much as I'm enjoying this, I have no doubt that TNG could have reached this point in the plot by the second commercial break without leaving out anything important.
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Re: Patrick Stewart back as Picard in new series
« Reply #178 on: 12 February, 2020, 09:22:39 AM »
S'right. But that was episode-based telly (and even then it often seemed slow), and not the endlessly dragged-out nested plots that the Modern Streaming Audience Wants.

One or two ideas a season and two-dozen stan-ready characters to ship, as opposed to two featured characters in an A- and B-plot per episode.
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Re: Patrick Stewart back as Picard in new series
« Reply #179 on: 12 February, 2020, 03:46:13 PM »
S'right. But that was episode-based telly (and even then it often seemed slow)...
Yeah, watch a few episodes of S2 or (if you can stomach it) S1 TNG and watch for all the interminable zooms and crescendo-building music. It was often amazing just how little plot they would get away with in 41 mins or whatever it was.

When they got into their groove though, they packed it in there, and often with room for ensemble character development (e.g. the brilliant 'Below Decks').