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Author Topic: Prog 2115. Next-Gen Policing.  (Read 2359 times)

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Re: Prog 2115. Next-Gen Policing.
« Reply #45 on: 25 January, 2019, 04:54:06 pm »
The most infuriating thing about Skip Tracer (apart from its title...) is that it seems to be perpetually on the brink (sorry) of being a pretty good strip, but it can never make that critical push. It's doing most things right but it needs to pull one more trick out the hat to win me over, and that might be a shocking twist, or an engaging new character, or an intriguing sub-plot; or it might just have to veer resolutely in a less vague direction, introducing more humour or horror or weirdness. Some pleasing idiosyncrasy. 

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Re: Prog 2115. Next-Gen Policing.
« Reply #46 on: 25 January, 2019, 05:22:49 pm »
The most infuriating thing about Skip Tracer (apart from its title...) is that it seems to be perpetually on the brink (sorry) of being a pretty good strip, but it can never make that critical push. It's doing most things right but it needs to pull one more trick out the hat to win me over, and that might be a shocking twist, or an engaging new character, or an intriguing sub-plot; or it might just have to veer resolutely in a less vague direction, introducing more humour or horror or weirdness. Some pleasing idiosyncrasy.

I feel like that ship has sailed.
The most infuriating thing for me is that it gives me no reason to care. I don’t feel like I know or get the main character. Neither do I have any sense of his environment. The Cube could be an interesting location to tell a story but it just feels like a generic future setting with bits ripped off from Blade Runner and other much better Sci Fi worlds.
Someone compared this to the early days of Dante. Well, I found that strip a bit annoying when it first started with it’s ‘too cool to kill’ thing but at least I got Dante’s schtick. And the future Russia setting was at least interesting and fresh.

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Re: Prog 2115. Next-Gen Policing.
« Reply #47 on: 25 January, 2019, 05:39:27 pm »
Skip Tracer has become one of those strips - won't name-check the others - which I just admire the art on, then move on. The story seems determined to avoid anything novel or interesting. I don't get why stories like this exist. The scope should be limitless. My 2 cents.
See also: zombies.

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Re: Prog 2115. Next-Gen Policing.
« Reply #48 on: 25 January, 2019, 06:43:23 pm »
Skip Tracer has become one of those strips - won't name-check the others - which I just admire the art on, then move on. The story seems determined to avoid anything novel or interesting. I don't get why stories like this exist. The scope should be limitless. My 2 cents.
See also: zombies.

I can agree on the zombie thing that it is theme that has past its due date and the only exception is Defoe. That is maybe why the previous 3riller was so uninteresting and lame

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Re: Prog 2115. Next-Gen Policing.
« Reply #49 on: 25 January, 2019, 09:01:49 pm »
Skip Tracer I think the main character looks and react always angry. His anger is almost like his just angry for the sake of anger without any explanation. The character should tone down a notch or two.  If the main character is not likable your story is fighting a losing battle to connect to the audience. I am one of the few that do like the strip but maybe this was too much (3 stories in a short period)

Yeah we discussed this last week, maybe you made the same observation there broodbilk? Anyway its definately right. For me that's why the second series worked so well, he wasn't just angry he was desperate and sad and passionate, you know a rich character and for me the story shined because of it. Oh and we knew and could empathise with why he felt all those things Really enjoyed that one. Alas this one hasn't picked up on that.

Its a double shame as after Dante ended there was a period when a lot of folks bemoaned the lack of another 'anchor' series to back up Dredd and appear in most issues. So on one hand folks got what they wanted, alas on the other we didn't. After all one of the key elements to making Dante a delight, even as it started, as that the lead had such (fault-filled) charm.

Still the second story buys Skip Tracer more time for me, lets see how it goes.



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Re: Prog 2115. Next-Gen Policing.
« Reply #50 on: 26 January, 2019, 05:15:49 am »
For all the millions of Skip Tracer fanboys out there accordingly the March solicits this will be around until then:  https://2000ad.com/post/4550

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Re: Prog 2115. Next-Gen Policing.
« Reply #51 on: 26 January, 2019, 01:15:29 pm »
Cracking Prog.  Brink and Dredd are the obvious highlights but I also enjoyed the other strips a lot. 

I love the way that Judge Randy is *almost* like Dredd was forty years ago.
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Re: Prog 2115. Next-Gen Policing.
« Reply #52 on: 28 January, 2019, 08:11:34 am »
The most infuriating thing about Skip Tracer (apart from its title...) 

Think you'll find the strip is just called "Tracer".

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Re: Prog 2115. Next-Gen Policing.
« Reply #53 on: 28 January, 2019, 10:14:16 am »
For all the millions of Skip Tracer fanboys out there accordingly the March solicits this will be around until then:  https://2000ad.com/post/4550

Glad to see Jaegir is back.

I tend to agree with the sentiment regarding Skip Tracer. It's been given a decent shot and hasn't succeeded for all the reasons outlined above and in previous prog threads.