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Author Topic: Basic Argumentation, And The Causing Of Offence  (Read 4276 times)

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Re: Basic Argumentation, And The Causing Of Offence
« Reply #135 on: 12 June, 2019, 05:33:12 pm »

... who decides what is a pure source and which are impure?

That's easy.  Torquemada and his Thought Police.

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Re: Basic Argumentation, And The Causing Of Offence
« Reply #136 on: 12 June, 2019, 08:46:05 pm »
Sweet feckin Jesus, would ye ever just turn off your computers and go outside?

"I only said I dun gone outside so they wouldn't give me another jalfrezi enema!"



I really miss Monkey Dust the world could really do with the program right now!
Sadly due to Harry Thompsons death due to lung cancer (he wasn't even a smoker apparently, utterly tragic) it seems the most under rated animated comedy will remain in it's cult statues.

Also I suspect theres zero chance of seasons 2 and 3 getting a dvd release after 15 years.

Yeah, I'd read that he'd passed away-tragic!  :(
Crying shame too, that those two seasons are unlikely to be released! :'(
Caustic satire of the highest calibre!  :thumbsup:

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Re: Basic Argumentation, And The Causing Of Offence
« Reply #137 on: 13 June, 2019, 01:34:34 pm »
Funny that idea about a 2000AD debating society should come up here, as the radio show discussed just started a new series this week:
Heresy

And the beeb also has an article about a sub-reddit on similar lines: blog

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Re: Basic Argumentation, And The Causing Of Offence
« Reply #138 on: 13 June, 2019, 06:30:39 pm »
Sweet feckin Jesus, would ye ever just turn off your computers and go outside?

"I only said I dun gone outside so they wouldn't give me another jalfrezi enema!"



I really miss Monkey Dust the world could really do with the program right now!
Sadly due to Harry Thompsons death due to lung cancer (he wasn't even a smoker apparently, utterly tragic) it seems the most under rated animated comedy will remain in it's cult statues.

Also I suspect theres zero chance of seasons 2 and 3 getting a dvd release after 15 years.

Yeah, I'd read that he'd passed away-tragic!  :(
Crying shame too, that those two seasons are unlikely to be released! :'(
Caustic satire of the highest calibre!  :thumbsup:

Yeah, I worked on S3 - I never met Harry, but he was well regarded.

The follow-up was going to be a spin-off based on the Brummie Jihadis, but even without Harry's untimely death, the 2005 attacks would have made it impossible to make at that time.

There are a few of those BBC Choice/Three comedy programmes which have slipped through the cracks - don't think Monkey Dust or The Wrong Door are even available on iplayer.

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Re: Basic Argumentation, And The Causing Of Offence
« Reply #140 on: 19 June, 2019, 02:55:48 pm »
Short version:

Attempt to re-express your target's position so clearly, vividly and fairly that your target says: "Thanks, I wish I'd thought of putting it that way."

List any points of agreement (especially if they are not matters of general or widespread agreement).

Mention anything you have learned from your target.

Only then are you permitted to say so much as a word of rebuttal or criticism.


But will they work on Nazis?
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Re: Basic Argumentation, And The Causing Of Offence
« Reply #141 on: 19 June, 2019, 03:09:23 pm »



But will they work on Nazis?


Or other statists?


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Re: Basic Argumentation, And The Causing Of Offence
« Reply #142 on: 19 June, 2019, 09:51:26 pm »
But will they work on Nazis?
Or other statists?

There is the danger, Shark, that you're inadvertently equating Nazis and people who like to be even mildly efficient.  I'm sure that's not what you meant to do.
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Re: Basic Argumentation, And The Causing Of Offence
« Reply #143 on: 19 June, 2019, 09:56:14 pm »



But will they work on Nazis?


Or other statists?

Not a great demonstration of the rules you've just endorsed, Sharky. And I'm saying that as something of an anarchist myself.
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Re: Basic Argumentation, And The Causing Of Offence
« Reply #144 on: 19 June, 2019, 10:06:02 pm »
But will they work on Nazis?
Or other statists?

There is the danger, Shark, that you're inadvertently equating Nazis and people who like to be even mildly efficient.  I'm sure that's not what you meant to do.

Not at all - I'm lumping all those who believe
in the rights of the state together...


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Re: Basic Argumentation, And The Causing Of Offence
« Reply #145 on: 19 June, 2019, 10:11:58 pm »
I'm lumping all those who believe in the rights of the state together...

Well, at least you admit it!  :-\
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Re: Basic Argumentation, And The Causing Of Offence
« Reply #146 on: 19 June, 2019, 10:17:46 pm »

Yer all a bunch of twats and everything you say is not just rubbish, it's stupid rubbish said by stupid twats.
« Last Edit: 19 June, 2019, 10:23:18 pm by The Enigmatic Dr X »
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Re: Basic Argumentation, And The Causing Of Offence
« Reply #147 on: 19 June, 2019, 10:21:04 pm »
Gotta say that wasn't very enigmatic, Dr X.
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Re: Basic Argumentation, And The Causing Of Offence
« Reply #148 on: 19 June, 2019, 10:23:48 pm »
Gotta say that wasn't very enigmatic, Dr X.

I was going for offensive.
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Re: Basic Argumentation, And The Causing Of Offence
« Reply #149 on: 19 June, 2019, 10:32:35 pm »
Gotta say that wasn't very enigmatic, Dr X.

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