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Lawgiver question
« on: 09 August, 2019, 06:18:48 pm »
I'm a little out of touch . It's been a while since I drew a Dredd. About a decade or so by my reckoning.
What's the current Lawgiver model? Photo reff would be appreciated.

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Re: Lawgiver question
« Reply #1 on: 09 August, 2019, 06:27:59 pm »
There’s a bit of a move amongst art droids to adopt the Carlos version, which I absolutely wouldn’t discourage you from doing. Are you doing a new Dredd, then, Simon? Fucking fantastic if you are!

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Re: Lawgiver question
« Reply #2 on: 09 August, 2019, 06:54:26 pm »
The original Carlos version?  If so then I'm all for it.

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Re: Lawgiver question
« Reply #3 on: 09 August, 2019, 06:56:38 pm »

The Carlosgiver is the only way to go.

The link in Jim's link has images of the 3D model from every angle, but here's how fellow droids have used it in recent strips:

Chris Weston (prog 2141):




Chris Weston (prog 2142):




Staz Johnson (prog 2136):




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Re: Lawgiver question
« Reply #4 on: 09 August, 2019, 08:19:14 pm »
Nice one.
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Re: Lawgiver question
« Reply #5 on: 09 August, 2019, 08:49:50 pm »
This is very good news. Fraser Dredds are lamentably few in number but always perfectly formed.

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Re: Lawgiver question
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Re: Lawgiver question
« Reply #7 on: 10 August, 2019, 11:33:05 am »
I'm a little out of touch . It's been a while since I drew a Dredd. About a decade or so by my reckoning.
What's the current Lawgiver model? Photo reff would be appreciated.

Thanks kindly

Simon Fraser.

Hi Simon,

I have the 3D model, so if you want any particular ref - just give me a shout.

Cheers

Steve

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Re: Lawgiver question
« Reply #8 on: 13 August, 2019, 12:37:08 am »
Thanks Steve. I haven't quite work out how to integrate 3D into my drawing process yet...or whether I want to. Seems like a slippery slope! However the Carlos Lawgiver is so deeply ingrained into me that I can draw it from childhood memory.

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Re: Lawgiver question
« Reply #9 on: 13 August, 2019, 08:13:16 am »
Carlos’ more recent version, adopted of late by Chris Weston and Staz Johnson and shown above, is really just a satisfyingly chunky version of the classic.
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Re: Lawgiver question
« Reply #10 on: 13 August, 2019, 08:56:04 am »
Thanks Steve. I haven't quite work out how to integrate 3D into my drawing process yet...or whether I want to. Seems like a slippery slope! However the Carlos Lawgiver is so deeply ingrained into me that I can draw it from childhood memory.

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No worries, yeah like Jim said, it's similar to the original but with a fatter muzzle, more like the silencer version in the Apocalypse War.

The dial on the side has been simplified I think, it's more like a safety now, and there's an indicator on the other side.

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Re: Lawgiver question
« Reply #11 on: 13 August, 2019, 01:00:33 pm »

Yeah, don't draw the original design, or readers will mistake that for the kind of visual cues - a rounded helmet and stars on the shoulderpad - that are meant to communicate a strip is set in the past.



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Re: Lawgiver question
« Reply #12 on: 13 August, 2019, 07:16:27 pm »
Heh, that Frank: a visual cue that was, I believe, first put to that very purpose by some scribbler called Simon Fraser...

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Re: Lawgiver question
« Reply #13 on: 13 August, 2019, 07:37:02 pm »



MacNeil gave Rico stars on the shoulderpad* back when Fraser was drawing Lux & Alby, but I think Fraser was the first ink monkey to show us his rounded helmet.

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* .. and a Carlos badge and rounded shoulderpad, too. Megazine 2.44, December 1993

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Re: Lawgiver question
« Reply #14 on: 13 August, 2019, 07:39:55 pm »
Everyone knows Megs and Specials don't count... 
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