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Re: Meg 424 - Thirty Megnificent Years
« Reply #45 on: 17 September, 2020, 08:04:38 AM »
but as a comedy conceit this was like a lead boot on an otherwise very lovely strip.

I'm not entirely sure why you think this is supposed to be funny, TB…? I'm pretty sure if it was meant to be, Ken would have put some jokes in it.

(Edit: by which I mean, it's clear the basic conceit is meant to amuse but Dave's deco-noir stylings wouldn't seem to be a good fit for 'comedy' and that doesn't seem to be where this is pitched.)
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Re: Meg 424 - Thirty Megnificent Years
« Reply #46 on: 17 September, 2020, 08:26:18 AM »
but as a comedy conceit this was like a lead boot on an otherwise very lovely strip.
I'm not entirely sure why you think this is supposed to be funny, TB…? I'm pretty sure if it was meant to be, Ken would have put some jokes in it.

I assume it's meant to be funny,  because why else would you do it?  In the space of two pages there's Cal, Quincy, Slocum and effin' Fish. If that's not meant to be a gag, what exactly is it?  The idea of a noir art deco MC-1 I like,  even America and Rico as protagonists, but EVERY CHARACTER. It's like being hit over the head with Sc*j* script.

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Re: Meg 424 - Thirty Megnificent Years
« Reply #47 on: 17 September, 2020, 08:43:41 AM »
I assume it's meant to be funny,  because why else would you do it?  In the space of two pages there's Cal, Quincy, Slocum and effin' Fish. If that's not meant to be a gag, what exactly is it?  The idea of a noir art deco MC-1 I like,  even America and Rico as protagonists, but EVERY CHARACTER. It's like being hit over the head with Sc*j* script.

Again, I'm not quite sure why you'd assume that. Lots of mirror/alt-universe stories in Star Trek/Stargate/et al play the actual stories completely straight — there's a meta-level of intellectual amusement for the viewer in seeing characters they know well play against type, or stick to type despite different circumstances. That was the vibe I got from the first page and, in the absence of actual gags, is what I assumed was the intent.

YMM, plainly, V, and I'm not going to try and convince you otherwise but, maybe, try to give it a chance with that more in mind?

(I recently had to restart reading a novel after a significant number of chapters because I realised that I wasn't enjoying it not because it was bad, but because I was reading it with the wrong tone in my head. Maybe that's not what's happening here, so feel free to ignore me on this.)
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Re: Meg 424 - Thirty Megnificent Years
« Reply #48 on: 17 September, 2020, 08:58:10 AM »
Well indeed, and I wouldn't ask anyone not to like it - there's a lot to like.

I like a Mirror Universe story as much as the next nerd (Angelic and Deadworld for example), it's the relentless shoehorning of every single name... Fish wasn't even a person, and yet here is, a Judge-analogue.  It's as if Indendant Kira git some Klingons to gang up on a hapless bloke called Kobayashi Maru. It's so persistent and silly ('Joe Rico') that it takes away from something that I would otherwise enjoy.

A tonal mash-up too far for me!

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Re: Meg 424 - Thirty Megnificent Years
« Reply #49 on: 17 September, 2020, 09:33:35 AM »
A tonal mash-up too far for me!

Ah, well. Enjoy the pretty pictures, then! :-)
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Re: Meg 424 - Thirty Megnificent Years
« Reply #50 on: 17 September, 2020, 09:36:34 AM »
A tonal mash-up too far for me!

Ah, well. Enjoy the pretty pictures, then! :-)

Ah you know me, in a few months I'll be insisting it's the best story EVAH.

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Re: Meg 424 - Thirty Megnificent Years
« Reply #51 on: 17 September, 2020, 10:00:07 AM »
Another article on what the meg could have been:

https://neotextcorp.com/culture/the-megazine-that-never-was/?ct=t(EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_19_09_02_COPY_01)

I find the concept of "Bad Company" quite interesting

There's some stuff in that article that looks very familiar, as well as a couple of pieces of art that I am pretty certain appeared for the first time like that in "Fantastic Adventures" (the Helltrekker design sketch and the Badlander art stand out, as I worked on scans of both to prepare them for print, and the Badlander piece in particular had to be assembled from multiple scans).

Ho-hum...

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Re: Meg 424 - Thirty Megnificent Years
« Reply #52 on: 17 September, 2020, 01:16:35 PM »
Article about the meg:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/how-judge-dredd-megazine-is-celebrating-30th-birthday

It looks like we will be getting the encyclopedia until the 45th anniversary of the prog
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Re: Meg 424 - Thirty Megnificent Years
« Reply #53 on: 17 September, 2020, 01:41:26 PM »

It looks like we will be getting the encyclopedia until the 45th anniversary of the prog

Which terrifyingly is less than 18 months away!

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Re: Meg 424 - Thirty Megnificent Years
« Reply #54 on: 17 September, 2020, 02:15:57 PM »
I am going to miss the variety we got with the floppies.
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Re: Meg 424 - Thirty Megnificent Years
« Reply #55 on: 18 September, 2020, 11:08:23 AM »
I haven't said this for a very long time, but I really love this month's Megazine.  It feels again like it did when it started - something you'd look forward to for a whole month.

Dredd is great - I wish Colin had done the whole thing, and I don't know why they switched artists, but it's a Wagner Dredd, a rare treat these days.

Lawless - I really didn't like the idea of an all-singing strip; I always struggle to find a tune that fits and end up being taken out of the story.  But then... Wow.  What can I say?  The highest praise I could possibly give a comics writer - Alan Moore, look and learn.  (That League of Extraordinary Gentlemen where half the comic is a song without a tune - nahh.)

Really love the Mike Carroll story - makes a whole lot more sense than Armageddon: The Bad Man if we're building Dredd's world, and Kenneth Niemand's alternative universe Dreddworld is lovely (sorry, Tordelback, but I just can't see how this is supposed to be a comedy strip).

Deliverance starts off strong, and I haven't read the other two strips yet, but keep up the good work, Meg-Tharg, I'm buying the Meg after not doing so for a long time.
Another article on what the meg could have been:

https://neotextcorp.com/culture/the-megazine-that-never-was/?ct=t(EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_19_09_02_COPY_01)

I find the concept of "Bad Company" quite interesting


Thanks for this; it's a fascinating article.  A Cursed Earth strip by Alan Moore - god almighty, what might have been.
By the way, broodblik, the first episode of the aborted Wagner / Ezquerra Bad Company was printed in an old Megazine.  Can't remember which number, I'm afraid. 
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Re: Meg 424 - Thirty Megnificent Years
« Reply #56 on: 18 September, 2020, 11:13:12 AM »
By the way, broodblik, the first episode of the aborted Wagner / Ezquerra Bad Company was printed in an old Megazine.  Can't remember which number, I'm afraid.

If anyone can remember or know which meg please share the no
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Re: Meg 424 - Thirty Megnificent Years
« Reply #57 on: 18 September, 2020, 12:44:17 PM »
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Re: Meg 424 - Thirty Megnificent Years
« Reply #58 on: 18 September, 2020, 12:48:51 PM »
4.15

Thx but unfortunately I do not own any megs before 2003
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Re: Meg 424 - Thirty Megnificent Years
« Reply #59 on: 18 September, 2020, 01:08:57 PM »
Broodblik - This aborted story also appeared at the end of 'The Complete Bad Company' graphic novel which you may own or want to pick up.