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Re: Kurt Russel for Dredd???.........
« Reply #15 on: 21 July, 2003, 08:16:47 PM »
I'm quite keen on the idea of Kurt Russell playing Dredd, if there wasn't anyone better available.

He makes Tombstone a fantastic film, almost single-handedly, and he was fun to watch when he escaped from various cities.

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Re: Kurt Russel for Dredd???.........
« Reply #16 on: 21 July, 2003, 08:23:40 PM »
If it is Reno (which I don't think is gonna happen) I take it there gonna dub out his accent.

Until an official statement is made I refuse to take in any rumour about who's doin what.

And even then I'll not believe it until I see it.

Anyway, arn't these films supposed to be in production now, what's happening there then?

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Re: Kurt Russel for Dredd???.........
« Reply #17 on: 21 July, 2003, 08:43:49 PM »
Anybody fancy emailing Shoreline? They replied last time I mailed 'em. It's definitely somebody else's turn this time, though...

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Re: Kurt Russel for Dredd???.........
« Reply #18 on: 21 July, 2003, 08:56:53 PM »
I think we need a growed up for that

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Re: Kurt Russel for Dredd???.........
« Reply #19 on: 21 July, 2003, 10:05:07 PM »
just emailed shoreline,hopefully some office junier will spill the beans...i think you can forgot kurt,clint...these people are really low budget film production types...not bad films...just low budget.... my money is on reno

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Re: Kurt Russel for Dredd???.........
« Reply #20 on: 21 July, 2003, 10:20:31 PM »
Elisabeth Rohn is my vote for Anderson. She played the cop in the first two seasons of Angel, is a credible actor, and has the most unique eyes I've ever seen.


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Re: Kurt Russel for Dredd???.........
« Reply #21 on: 21 July, 2003, 10:27:04 PM »
...Carnivore - you icon just scared the hell out of me!!

Yeah, Rohn would make a great Arthur Ranson's Anderson, while the Proctor Anderson is more Brian Bolland.
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Re: Kurt Russel for Dredd???.........
« Reply #22 on: 21 July, 2003, 10:46:15 PM »
Now *that* is a good icon.
Pffft...

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Re: Kurt Russel for Dredd???.........
« Reply #23 on: 21 July, 2003, 10:53:43 PM »
That is a DROKKING good icon!

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Re: Kurt Russel for Dredd???.........
« Reply #24 on: 21 July, 2003, 11:11:33 PM »
the eyes are good, i suppose a psi is a mutant...mm... new thread there...

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Re: Kurt Russel for Dredd???.........
« Reply #25 on: 21 July, 2003, 11:17:49 PM »
I always thought it was Val Kilmer's rather foppish turn as Doc Holliday that "made" TOMBSTONE.

It was certainly him that did the magnificent "I'm your Huckleberry" line (whatever that means).

But Kurt Russell would be great - just how FEW lines did he have in Soldier? About ten and half of them were "Sir, yes, Sir".

And Kurt has played Elvis, hasn't he?

But it's all pie in the sky - expect a cast of unknowns of the quality of "Starship Troopers" - plucked from the ranks of daytime TV Hospital sopa operas (but the Dredd movie will have the actors that play the senior Doctors rather than the Junior Doctors).
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Re: Kurt Russel for Dredd???.........
« Reply #26 on: 22 July, 2003, 12:38:46 AM »
Thanks for the kind words on the icon, folks. I'll get around to making a much better version one of these days.


I too saw some of Soldier the other day, and (as usually happens when I'm watching low-budget action sci-fi), thought of the Dredd movies.

I think Dredd needs more physical presence. In other words, he should be taller and have some muscle. Kurt Russel tends to be play every character as really laid back. Even in the best Judge uniform, I don't think he could scare the crap out of me which, in my opinion, is what Dredd should do.

One thing that bugged me about the first film (don't worry I'll be brief), was the helmets. They made them fuctional, opening up peripheral vision. To me, it made the Judges appear friendly. I didn't get the sense of centurion/stormtrooper/inquisitor that I think is an important part of the Judges' look. Who's to say that the nose guard part of the helmet in the center of the visor isn't there to project holographic images of the environment directly into the wearer's eyes?

Imperial Stormtroopers must have terrible peripheral vision but it doesn't matter 'cos they look ultra cool and scary.

I think I've wandered into discussing the uniform!

Judges, in general, should be everything from athletic build to husky slabs of man-meat. The film-makers should probably recruit gay porn models as extras! While Dredd owes a lot to Clint Eastwood, he has always been much more physical and imposing than any of Clint's characters. I understand why Ron Pearlman may be viewed as ideal by some as we can believe he can kick down doors and mess people up.

Having said that, I have no idea who should play Dredd. In my mind I imagine someone between Clint Eastwood and the (ex?)wrestler who goes by various names: Psycho Sid/Sid Vicious/Sid Justice.
http://members.tripod.com/S_A_J/pictures/sidvicious13.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/slobhull/sidearlywcw.jpg
http://www.webontario.com/fighting/sidvicious/sid07.jpg

Given that Dredd may not actually remove his helmet, there would be no reason not to simply hire the person with the best body, voice and acting ability for the role. The visible part of the face could be done with make-up.

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Re: Kurt Russel for Dredd???.........
« Reply #27 on: 22 July, 2003, 04:30:36 AM »
yeah, but he shouldn't be too muscular. The uniform is so bulky that if Dredd's too musclebound he just looks like a stupid meatball. the best renditions of him bear this in mind - if you look at McMahon's drawings, for instance, Dredd is actually quite skinny - which ties in with the Eastwood look.

The other thing is that the uniform has become so stylised over the years that what looks good in the comic wouldn't necessarily translate all that well to 3-D. I'm not saying the uniform should be completely reinvented, but maybe it would work better in a live action setting if it were taken back closer to Esquerra's original design?

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Re: Kurt Russel for Dredd???.........
« Reply #28 on: 22 July, 2003, 05:47:33 AM »
I absolutely agree with you on both points.

My contention is that Clint, for all his great characters was always a stringy, weedy-looking guy. While I think the Judges in general should be shown as physically formidable, Dredd himself need not, and should not, be musclebound to the extent of steroid-pimped wrestlers (since that's the best frame of reference I can think of). I cited Sid as he has a pretty scary look, but I would no more want to see him in the role than Dolph Ludgren! :) A physical halfway point between Clint and Sid would do it for me.

The uniform definately needs redesigning. If the comic look was put in a real world setting it'd clearly be ludicrous. While the armies of history -- especially the upper ranks -- have worn much needless decor such ceremonial trim was shed in battle. So it should be for the Judges.

I'd suggest going back to the very first Dredd stories where the pads were more discreet, and extrapolating a real-world uniform from there; one could probably find a good mid-point between the comic book and contemporary uniforms of SWAT/ Riot Police. The helmet, however, should be scary badass! :)

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Re: Kurt Russel for Dredd???.........
« Reply #29 on: 22 July, 2003, 06:02:26 AM »
I can explain exactly why the uniform need not be ridiculous translated exactly, but then that's imaginations for you.

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