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Dredd (2012)

Started by Goaty, 06 September, 2011, 11:51:16 PM

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Ha!

Unless these random people are 2000AD readers then Random Member of Public #2 is most likely to reply "Who?"

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Or...

That title's a bit of a mouthful. Why didn't they just call it Dredd?  ;)

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Or generic Marvel film #1000!   ;)
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Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 December, 2013, 11:33:46 AMYeah I heard the Brazilian Director had a pretty hard time on making it with any idea he had squashed by the Producers. Satire targeting Capitalism is something Hollywood Bigwigs are most unlikely to encourage.

No one in Hollywood gives a hoot about what a film's subject matter is as long as it attracts an audience and makes money doing so; if they could get away with it they'd be producing big-screen porn versions of the Communist Manifesto.

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Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 December, 2013, 07:44:12 PM
No one in Hollywood gives a hoot about what a film's subject matter is as long as it attracts an audience and makes money doing so; if they could get away with it they'd be producing big-screen porn versions of the Communist Manifesto.

'Screwing for Socialism!- part 103.'

I remember  there was some rumours of discord in the DREDD editing suite with Peter Travis apparently locked out at one point though this was denied and a statement disclaiming this put out. Does seem a bit rough that you hire a Director to shoot the piece and then effectively the Producers decide what's to be filmed. Why bother hiring a Director in the first place?

Didn't Ridley Scott get booted off Bladerunner?. The producer of Bladerunner apparently wanted to shoot the BR script and grew increasingly unhappy with Ridley Scott. After some disagreements Ridley got his marching orders.

I heard that some Producers deliberately hire Directors with the intention of sacking them half way through the Picture. If the Films good they get slung off it but if it's bad they keep them on ensuring the Director takes the rap for the Movie's poor performance. Nasty!
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Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 December, 2013, 08:39:36 PM
I remember  there was some rumours of discord in the DREDD editing suite with Peter Travis apparently locked out at one point though this was denied and a statement disclaiming this put out. Does seem a bit rough that you hire a Director to shoot the piece and then effectively the Producers decide what's to be filmed. Why bother hiring a Director in the first place?

Didn't Ridley Scott get booted off Bladerunner?. The producer of Bladerunner apparently wanted to shoot the BR script and grew increasingly unhappy with Ridley Scott. After some disagreements Ridley got his marching orders.

I heard that some Producers deliberately hire Directors with the intention of sacking them half way through the Picture. If the Films good they get slung off it but if it's bad they keep them on ensuring the Director takes the rap for the Movie's poor performance. Nasty!

Directors can be just as much cogs in the machine as everyone else and the term 'director' has acquired an undue mythic status when the majority of mainstream films can be directed by many capable journeymen who know the craft and trade.

Often it's part of the deal when directors sign-on because in many cases directors are generally hired to direct films that producers have fostered from the ground-up (Bruckheimer films) as their own projects unless the director also happens to be the producer i.e. Kubrick, Spielberg or Christopher Nolan or if the director is has final-cut. The producer generally puts the whole creative package together.

I don't know what happened on Dredd but it seems reasonable to assume that Dredd was a producer/writer led project -not director led- from the start, so many of the creative decisions were made with the involvement of the director and other creatives, but ultimately the buck probably stopped with the producers. Just because a director directs the set-shoot from an agreed script and storyboard doesn't mean they can direct, or have final cut, in the edit. This is generally known from the start.

It's producers and big actors who get big budget-films greenlit before any director. Some directors can be fired for good reason and the producers are right. Many bad films could've been saved if directors had not been indulged.

It's different for small independent films that are personal projects.




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As I recall I slagged off Peter Travis when he was chosen as Director for DREDD. Well I'm sorry Peter, I was so wrong. You did a magnificent job Sir! If they make DREDD 2 please come back if you're not too busy with another project.
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Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 12 December, 2013, 09:17:21 PM
As I recall I slagged off Peter Travis when he was chosen as Director for DREDD. Well I'm sorry Peter, I was so wrong. You did a magnificent job Sir! If they make DREDD 2 please come back if you're not too busy with another project.


He all ready said he wouldn't be coming back if there was another though he hoped there would be.

Theblazeuk

Did Travis have a disagreement with Garland or with the execs? I seem to remember there was sometihng about him being kept out of the editing process.

radiator

We don't know, and probably never will.

All we can say for certain is that there were RUMOURS of behind the scenes troubles that were categorically denied by all involved, and all concerned have behaved in a professional, courteous manner publicly since.

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Didn't Duncan Jones of Moon fame indicate some interests in Judge Dredd?

I Think he's working on World of Warcraft for the moment which if it becomes a big hit, LOTR style means he'll properly be tied to that franchise but afterwards, well who knows?
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Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 14 December, 2013, 10:56:46 AM
Didn't Duncan Jones of Moon fame indicate some interests in Judge Dredd?

He was offered the job to direct it but turned it down because he was unable to use his own ideas.

IAMTHESYSTEM

 I'd hoped the DVD sales might boost some interest. Oh forlorn hope....
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