Dredd (2012)

[A.Cow]

Karl is cleverer than he looks.  Any attempt at a Kickstarter would have to be shut down by DNA, but it would prove there's a serious demand for the movie, which would help negotiations no end.

[Steve Green]

Really, how do you work that out?

How far do you think they'd let it progress before they shut it down? It wouldn't prove much.

Even if every person who signed the petition put 10 quid in, that's still a very small fraction of a production budget. And that's leaving aside that people would likely point out that it's likely to be pulled.

I hate it when I can't sleep.

[A.Cow]

Really, how do you work that out?
How far do you think they'd let it progress before they shut it down? It wouldn't prove much.

For comparison, the aborted Minecraft movie Kickstarter campaign got lots of column-inches out of being shut down.  That level of news interest, coupled with the fact that they raised 10% of their target $0.6m budget within 24 hours, demonstrates a viable market for a potential officially licensed Minecraft movie, IMHO.

[TordelBack]

Sheesh, you'd think we'd have seen at least a teaser trailer by now...

[Goaty]

Sheesh, you'd think we'd have seen at least a teaser trailer by now...

Yeah but meanwhile we can enjoy again the trailer made by fan, (if you only ignore that out-of-touch Dredd badge!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJmFLdYBIVA

[Steve Green]

Really, how do you work that out?
How far do you think they'd let it progress before they shut it down? It wouldn't prove much.

For comparison, the aborted Minecraft movie Kickstarter campaign got lots of column-inches out of being shut down.  That level of news interest, coupled with the fact that they raised 10% of their target $0.6m budget within 24 hours, demonstrates a viable market for a potential officially licensed Minecraft movie, IMHO.

Minecraft is huge though, Dredd isn't and hadn't already had two cinema releases which didn't do well.

You said it yourself, their $.06m budget.

Dredd cost $35m.

[dweezil2]

Maybe if a Kickstarter campaign helped fund a Dredd sequel's marketing budget, it could help take the pressure off the production budget, but I couldn't see it funding the sequel as a whole.

As stated before though, this doesn't seem like a route DNA Films can pursue due to the original film's complex funding structure.

[Steve Green]

Sure, companies have tried using KS to part fund stuff.

e.g. Blur with the pre-production on the Goon.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/624061548/the-goon-movie-lets-kickstart-this-sucker

But like you said, the financing seems complicated enough.


anyway, that's not what Karl was suggesting - which in itself is a totally different thing.

I just took it as trying to keep fans happy, rather than the more mundane reply of explaining IP, licensing etc.

[Tiplodocus]

Are there any credible examples of movies (with a budget and production values at least equal to Dredd) being funded by a Kickstarter?

[Steve Green]

The highest that I know of for a movie kickstarter is Veronica Mars at $5.7m(ish)

[Richmond Clements]

Are there any credible examples of movies (with a budget and production values at least equal to Dredd) being funded by a Kickstarter?

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/mar/13/veronica-mars-movie-fans-money-pressure-return-kickstarter-funded-marshmallows

(edit) Steve got there first.

[TordelBack]

No.

Veronica Mars comes closest, raising nearly USD 6 million from nearly 100,000 backers, and it grossed an additional 3.5 million on release: no idea what additional funds Warners kicked in, or how that translates to actual money.  All very impressive, and I imagine everyone got paid, but leaving aside the larger support base, it wasn't exactly an effects-heavy SF action movie, or a box-office smash.
 
EDIT: Gah!

[Steve Green]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2014/03/16/weekend-box-office-veronica-mars-earns-2m-need-for-speed-bombs/

It's a bit of an oddity all round - it was available VOD at the same time as the theatrical release.

I think it's a similar issue to what Dredd has, a passionate fanbase, but not necessarily going to translate into a mainstream success.

[Goaty]

From Den of Geek; http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/dredd/30602/karl-urban-calls-for-dredd-2-kickstarter it update to the link from Comicbook

After Dredd 2? Karl Urban suggests crowdfunding may be the way forward...

It's the project that's not going away, and we're very glad to hear it. In spite of initially poor box office numbers for 2012's Dredd movie, the film has continued to do well on home formats, and talk of a sequel continues. It's been helped by the fact that the big screen's Judge Dredd himself, Karl Urban, has been backing the idea too.

There's still a proverbial mountain to climb to get the project off the ground, although Urban was at the Motor City Comic Con over the weekend, and was talking about the project again.

As ComicBook reports, Urban was always insistent that Dredd's mask would stay on, and the man clearly enjoyed making the film. But as for a sequel? Nothing has thus far been written (although Alex Garland has suggested that he'll be turning his attention to Dredd 2 before the year is out), but Urban confirmed he'd take the role again if it was offered. He then "urged the panel attendees to create a Kickstarter for it".

In principle, this is a fine plan. However, a new Dredd movie is likely to need $30-40m for physical production, and that's way beyond what any movie crowdfunding project has managed before. Still, we, and we suspect many others, would gladly put our hands in our pockets if it meant Dredd 2 would happen. We can't say we have a few million lying around under the bed, though.

We wait and see if the Dredd team takes the crowdfunding route...

[Tiplodocus]

I thought that might be the case; I guess people are looking at a solution that barely worked for another film and extrapolating that similar would magically work for a Dredd sequel.

Much like the marketing for the movie ("Dark Knight marketing and advertising did thing why can't Dredd? whine whine etc./ ad nauseum")