Attention all deviants: Nemesis hardcovers are now up for pre-order
Last year, a brand new hardcover edition of Pat Mills and Kevin O'Neill's groundbreaking 2000 AD series Nemesis the Warlock sold out in just 24 hours. There's good news for those who missed out though—not only is the second limited edition volume now available to pre-order, but fans can also grab a reprint of the first volume!
Nemesis the Warlock: The Later Heresies is the brand new, limited-edition English-language hardcover collection bringing together the second phase of Pat Mills and Kevin O'Neill's seminal sci-fi epic, Nemesis the Warlock. It follows the Nemesis the Warlock: The Early Heresies collection, which sold out within 24 hours in 2019.
Available exclusively from the 2000 AD webshop, these books will be available for pre-order from 12pm BST on Tuesday 29 September until 12pm BST on Monday 12th October.
• Pre-order volume one (https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/XB682)
• Pre-order volume two (https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/XB693)
Developed in conjunction with 2000 AD's French publisher Delirium, The Later Heresies collects the stories 'Ego Trip', 'Book 5: Vengeance of Thoth', 'Book 6: Torquemurder', 'Torquemada the God', 'A Bedtime Story', 'Book 7: The Two Torquemadas', 'A Day in the Death of Torquemada', 'Forbidden Planet', 'Torquemada's Second Honeymoon', 'Torture Tube', and 'Garden of Alien Delights'.
Written by Pat Mills with art by Kevin O'Neill, Bryan Talbot, and John Hicklenton, this edition includes the 'photo stories' by Tony Luke and new scans of 'Torture Tube' by Kevin O'Neill, as well as the colour story 'Torquemada's Second Honeymoon' and thirteen colour covers.
Debuting in 2000 AD 40 years ago, Nemesis the Warlock is an extra-terrestrial extremist guerrilla hell-bent on defeating the bigoted human dictator, Torquemada!
Created by Pat Mills and Kevin O'Neill, Nemesis combines his creators' shared imaginative vision, political views, and Catholic upbringing to produce a uncompromising dark fantasy saga of unparalleled world-building. Whether it's epic battles with the bigoted Terminators, high-speed chases through the vast Black Hole bypass, or Nemesis turning up in contemporary Britain, you'll never have read anything like Nemesis the Warlock. Indeed, as a prescient treatise on religious extremism and cycles of violence, the series has never been more relevant.
Highly political—tackling issues of fascism and racism—Nemesis has been long-regarded as one of 2000 AD's most daring and important stories.
Co-creator Kevin O'Neill is joined by artists Jesús Redondo, Bryan Talbot, John Hicklenton, David Roach, Clint Langley, Henry Flint, Carl Critchlow and Tony Luke.
Note for collectors: the dimensions of these books—approx. 21cm × 28cm—is about the same as the Fall of Deadworld volumes, and a similar height to oversized hardcovers from other publishers that you might have in your collection.
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I don't need new editions of Nemesis. I don't need new editions of Nemesis. I don't need new editions of Nemesis...
Clearly Rebellion have deliberately timed this release to coincide with the success of Nem and Torque in the UNDT.
Quote from: Greg M. on 29 September, 2020, 12:35:39 PM
Clearly Rebellion have deliberately timed this release to coincide with the success of Nem and Torque in the UNDT.
I love all these conspiracy theories bring it on. Next we will get the all the
Dante You Can Get Full Frontal Double-Deluxe Suppadooba Once-in-a-Life-Time Edition
Quote from: broodblik on 29 September, 2020, 12:52:54 PM
Dante You Can Get Full Frontal Double-Deluxe Suppadooba Once-in-a-Life-Time Edition
I'd buy that!
Little does my darling wife know, but she has just bought me my Christmas present. Can't beat a joint account, really.
Must... resist... Must... resist
Quote from: Greg M. on 29 September, 2020, 12:35:39 PM
Clearly Rebellion have deliberately timed this release to coincide with the success of Nem and Torque in the UNDT.
Or have I been fixing the votes as part of a very specific and targeted marketing campaign...
I like the way that they're guaranteeing pre-orders for the next couple of weeks will get a copy. The last edition of this left a bit of a bad taste in my mouth, considering the way that pre-orders were announced first on Zuckerberg's organ, immediately sold out and then many copies were immediately flipped on eBay. It was pretty much a textbook case of how not to do one of these launches. Glad to see Rebellion have changed things.
I've ordered both books, obviously.
Yep. It's a sensible thing. Instead of a limited number, do a limited pre-order period. Everyone gets a chance, and Rebellion knows how many to print (which I imagine will include a few extra in case of delivery issues).
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 29 September, 2020, 02:05:22 PM
Or have I been fixing the votes
I wondered why I'd voted for Ramone Dexter twenty-six times.
Quote from: Greg M. on 29 September, 2020, 04:26:18 PM
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 29 September, 2020, 02:05:22 PM
Or have I been fixing the votes
I wondered why I'd voted for Ramone Dexter twenty-six times.
Because you realise what an exceptional character he is and you secretly prefer him to Kano... no really go on, work with that...
As much as I love my 'Early Heresies' volume, I can't help wishing a little extra time could have been put in to reproduce the missing colour where it was and, perhaps, a better rendition of 'The Gothic Empire' to match the old Titan one. Having said that, I have pre-ordered volume 2 and am hoping everything that was colour will be faithfully restored and am especially grateful the two 'Dice Man' strips have been included. The whole project just could, and should, have been perfect. Am I expecting to much?
Not that much extra left over for The Final Heresies, is there? The two Deadlock stories and Tubular Hells, I suppose? What else?
Books 8-10
Shape Of Things To Come
Bride Of The Warlock
Hammer Of The Warlocks
The important for continuty purposes "Bride of the Warlock" with Chris Weston art. The much overlooked and hilarious "Tomb of Torquemada" with art by Kev Flipping O'Neill
As well as Books 8, 9 and 10..
Quote from: TordelBack on 29 September, 2020, 06:28:42 PM
Not that much extra left over for The Final Heresies, is there? The two Deadlock stories and Tubular Hells, I suppose? What else?
To be fair, it's only Book 1 that I own four copies of, and I'm sure the charity shop will appreciate my much loved phone book complete series, and I've not been on holiday this year, so I'm in.
Does anyone know how much of Nemesis (in its entirety) has been collected in the 2000AD Ultimate Collection thus far?
Quote from: Michael Knight on 29 September, 2020, 08:45:26 PM
Does anyone know how much of Nemesis (in its entirety) has been collected in the 2000AD Ultimate Collection thus far?
Everything except the Diceman strips.
Ah yes, cheers Sintec and Leigh! For some reason I always think Book 9 is Hammer of Warlocks, and thus only a few pages long, and equally that Book 10 is another short one (it isn't). I also had it in my head that Tomb of Torquemada was already in Vol 1, but that was actually in another recent reprint... So plenty to fill Part 3! Not that I'm getting ahead of myself or anything...
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 29 September, 2020, 08:50:48 PM
Quote from: Michael Knight on 29 September, 2020, 08:45:26 PM
Does anyone know how much of Nemesis (in its entirety) has been collected in the 2000AD Ultimate Collection thus far?
Everything except the Diceman strips.
The Diceman strips appear in volume 2 of the Rebellion collected edition, as well as volume 6 of the Titan edition.
So far just the Deadlock spin off series and the final episode that appeared in prog 2000 have not been reprinted.
Quote from: seanharry on 29 September, 2020, 11:10:15 PM
So far just the Deadlock spin off series and the final episode that appeared in prog 2000 have not been reprinted.
The Prog 2000 story was Tubular Hells wasn't it?
That was in the 4th volume of the Ultimate Collection and it's also in the 3rd phone book.
The Deadlock spinoff from Progs 1212 to 1222 also made the 4th Ultimate Collection volume and according to Barney also saw a reprint in the Megazine. Unless there's a different Deadlock spinoff?
Quote from: sintec on 30 September, 2020, 09:27:48 AM
Quote from: seanharry on 29 September, 2020, 11:10:15 PM
So far just the Deadlock spin off series and the final episode that appeared in prog 2000 have not been reprinted.
The Prog 2000 story was Tubular Hells wasn't it?
That was in the 4th volume of the Ultimate Collection and it's also in the 3rd phone book.
The Deadlock spinoff from Progs 1212 to 1222 also made the 4th Ultimate Collection volume and according to Barney also saw a reprint in the Megazine. Unless there's a different Deadlock spinoff?
Yeah - the Deadlock spin-off (Henry Flint artwork, Purity as President Purity of Terra) was in a floppy.
Quote from: sheridan on 30 September, 2020, 10:00:02 AM
Quote from: sintec on 30 September, 2020, 09:27:48 AM
Quote from: seanharry on 29 September, 2020, 11:10:15 PM
So far just the Deadlock spin off series and the final episode that appeared in prog 2000 have not been reprinted.
The Prog 2000 story was Tubular Hells wasn't it?
That was in the 4th volume of the Ultimate Collection and it's also in the 3rd phone book.
The Deadlock spinoff from Progs 1212 to 1222 also made the 4th Ultimate Collection volume and according to Barney also saw a reprint in the Megazine. Unless there's a different Deadlock spinoff?
Yeah - the Deadlock spin-off (Henry Flint artwork, Purity as President Purity of Terra) was in a floppy.
But Michael Knight was asking specifically about the Ultimate Collection books, where
everything has been reprinted except the Diceman strips (including Deadlock and Tubular Hells).
I feel like hanging out on this thread is like surrounding myself with enablers telling me that I really absolutely do need a fourth dip into Nemesis collection territory. Last time I read my phonebook collections I had a fine time - but it would be nicer to have bigger pages and a hardback spine to really open out the pages more...
Quote from: AlexF on 01 October, 2020, 09:47:59 AM
I feel like hanging out on this thread is like surrounding myself with enablers telling me that I really absolutely do need a fourth dip into Nemesis collection territory. Last time I read my phonebook collections I had a fine time - but it would be nicer to have bigger pages and a hardback spine to really open out the pages more...
Come to the dark side!
HC > PB, every time.
I've caved in and have the Later Deviations - still weighing up the need to get the Early Deviations when I already have the Deviant edition. I guess it means not having a hardback with the Gothic Empire in, ironically the only book I had in the old Titan edition but have long since got rid of.
Well, they are different interpretations, given the colour art, etc. :D
Biggest thing for me was them putting the dimensions on! When I'm treble (or is it quad with Nemesis) dipping, I want to know that the books are going to look nice and be the same size
Note for collectors: the dimensions of these books—approx. 21cm × 28cm—is about the same as the Fall of Deadworld volumes, and a similar height to oversized hardcovers from other publishers that you might have in your collection.
It's the standard HC size for Rebellion isn't it? Like the America Lost & Found & Mek Files volumes.
Yeah, I added that line to the press release, because I figured people would find it useful. 28cm tall is essentially the standard these days for OS HCs—all my Marvel/DC ones fall into that as well, as do quite a few image HCs. 2000 AD's page dimensions are different from US comics, though, and so these books are about 2.5cm wider than US reprint.
Quote from: Tomwe on 01 October, 2020, 03:10:08 PM
It's the standard HC size for Rebellion isn't it? Like the America Lost & Found & Mek Files volumes.
Yeah. I measured my Trigan Empire in the bathroom this morning and that was the same.
Slightly confusing that it's described as "oversized" though, as I'd just call it the proper size.
I think I will indulge myself.
Oversized hardcovers from other publishers. Most trades ape US page sizes, remember; even Rebellion's paperbacks are typically the same height as such volumes.
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 01 October, 2020, 03:14:07 PM
Oversized hardcovers from other publishers. Most trades ape US page sizes, remember; even Rebellion's paperbacks are typically the same height as such volumes.
Yeah, but I still think of them as shrunken.
Just a quick question for anyone who owns the 2000ad Annual 1984 or is otherwise in the know: Was the story 'A Day in the Death of Torquemada' first published in colour or black and white? I am asking because if it is in colour, hopefully volume two of the hardcover will feature it as such.
It was in black-and-white O'Neill-o-vision. That annual was the first 2000AD product I ever owned - that introduction to Torque is probably what ignited my life-long love of the Grandmaster!
Thanks for confirmation, Greg. Although I could have sworn it looked like a colour-to-black and white reprint in my Ultimate Collection book!
Quote from: Max Headroom on 15 November, 2020, 07:58:51 PM
Thanks for confirmation, Greg. Although I could have sworn it looked like a colour-to-black and white reprint in my Ultimate Collection book!
You may be thinking of Torquemada's Second Honeymoon, which was in full colour by Kevin O'Neil. It has only been reprinted in garish black and white, but will be in full colour again for this volume.
Mine arrived yesterday and they were well worth the (by now) triple dip. The inclusion of the two Diceman stories are really welcome as I've never read them. And as mentioned above, 'Torquemada's Second Honeymoon being in colour is a huge plus.
Another colour question though: did 'Torquemurder' have double pages in colour originally as this entire book here is B&W.
Quote from: Grumpy Andrew on 22 December, 2020, 08:44:37 PM
Mine arrived yesterday and they were well worth the (by now) triple dip. The inclusion of the two Diceman stories are really welcome as I've never read them. And as mentioned above, 'Torquemada's Second Honeymoon being in colour is a huge plus.
Another colour question though: did 'Torquemurder' have double pages in colour originally as this entire book here is B&W.
The opening pages of each episode of the first half of Torquemurder were on the centre pages, so were pen-and-inked by Bryan Talbot and coloured by whomever was doing colour at that point. Then it took a break and came back for about five more episodes, not in the centre pages (I
think this was the episode opening with Nemesis calling demons from his id).
This is a very lovely book. The repro on The Two Torquemada's is a bit muddy in places but I'm guessing that's to do with the quality of whatever source material they had to use. The colour O'Neil stuff looks fantastic.
I think this must by now be the equivalent of buying an album on vinyl when it first came out, then upgrading to CD, remastered CD, remastered vinyl and then a collectors box set (having sold and then rebought the original vinyl at some point) and having it on mp3.
One thing that does stick out is not updating the creator biographies to acknowledge John Hincklenton and Tony Luke having died.
Was hoping this'd be here for Christmas, but Rebellion have been up-front with their comms, and it's good to have something to look forward to in the New Year.
Received both volumes and I am really happy with the quality and dimensions of the book.
Any idea when is volume three coming out? last volume I assume?
What other series do you guys think might get similar treatment? Dante? Slaine? Strontium dog?
My Later Heresies finally arrived, and I'm broadly pleased and hungry for a third volume (Final Heresies?), with or without Tubular Hells.
As has been noted elsewhere the repro is uneven, especially in Book V and a few places in Book VI - these are pretty obviously using the same source as the Casefiles edition, with many of the same issues. I would have thought that Talbot's assertive lines would have been easier to reproduce than most, but alas.
However, the B&W treatment of the colour spreads is far sharper to my eye, and the Diceman strips are a massive improvement over my Casefiles copy. The photostrips seem about the same, but they benefit greatly from the clean white of the paperstock. This increased contrast also benefits the Hicklenton episodes, which while maybe a bit heavy on the blacks look amazing.
The real jewels of this edition are a superb full-page colour cover galley, and a glorious colour printing of Torquemada's Second Honeymoon. These hint annoyingly at what could potentially have been achieved elsewhere, but are lovely in their own right.
Once you accept that what you're getting for your money is a beautifully bound and nicely designed larger-format edition of Casefiles Vol 2 on lovely paper, with legacy flaws and quite minor improvements, plus excellent colour bits, rather than a reworked "absolute" version or a Hibernia-quality labour of love, I think it succeeds as a very worthwhile purchase.
Quote from: TordelBack on 11 January, 2021, 10:27:22 AM
Once you accept that what you're getting for your money is a beautifully bound and nicely designed larger-format edition of Casefiles Vol 2 on lovely paper, with legacy flaws and quite minor improvements, plus excellent colour bits, rather than a reworked "absolute" version or a Hibernia-quality labour of love, I think it succeeds as a very worthwhile purchase.
Yep. All the indignant online spluttering had me worried, but actually... it's no worse than the Nemesis phonebooks, and actually much
better in places. It may not live up to the progs or Titan editions, but I've never
seen the original progs or Titan editions, so that doesn't really bother me. Of the three editions of this material that I've now owned, this is on balance probably the best.
Quote from: TordelBack on 11 January, 2021, 10:27:22 AM
Once you accept that what you're getting for your money is a beautifully bound and nicely designed larger-format edition of Casefiles Vol 2 on lovely paper, with legacy flaws and quite minor improvements, plus excellent colour bits, rather than a reworked "absolute" version or a Hibernia-quality labour of love, I think it succeeds as a very worthwhile purchase.
Not sure what's going on but it looks like these are available again in the shop. I took a while to convince myself after reading about the repro problems but I've just pulled the trigger. Looking forward to seeing if I get hit with any outlandish additional charges when they finally arrive.
Necro post! Was just looking at my shelf and wondering about a final one of these? They came out originally at around this time of year.
I've been checking daily for the same reason.
Also keen to get this and read the entire story. Hope they include the extra Deadlock material that was contained in the Hachette Partworks editions.
Volume 3 has appeared in the 'Upcoming Releases' section of the shop. Out mid-January, limited to 350 copies.
Quote from: Anthony Garnon on 10 November, 2021, 07:26:27 AM
Volume 3 has appeared in the 'Upcoming Releases' section of the shop. Out mid-January, limited to 350 copies.
Well, I'd have to be a complete idiot to snooze on this having bought the first two. Nice one.
Quote from: Max Headroom on 29 October, 2021, 07:11:05 PM
Also keen to get this and read the entire story. Hope they include the extra Deadlock material that was contained in the Hachette Partworks editions.
Quote from: 2000AD-ShopStories include:
The World of Nemesis (Book 3)
Deadlock
The Tomb of Torquemada
Tubular Hells
My daily check has finally borne fruit.
and bought
Ordered
Quote from: sheridan on 10 November, 2021, 09:08:54 AM
Quote from: Max Headroom on 29 October, 2021, 07:11:05 PM
Hope they include the extra Deadlock material that was contained in the Hachette Partworks editions.
Quote from: 2000AD-ShopStories include:
The World of Nemesis (Book 3)
Deadlock
The Tomb of Torquemada
Tubular Hells
Hopefully it
does include Deadlock, but I'd venture to suggest that contents list is badly wrong! Book 3? No Hicklenton? No Hammer of Warlocks? No Book X...?
From the shop:
Purity's Story (Book 8)
Deathbringer (Book 9)
Shape of Things to Come
Hammer of the Warlocks
Book X: The Final Conflict
Warlocks and Wizards
Enigmass Variations
Bride of the Warlock
Deadlock
The Tomb of Torquemada
Tubular Hells
Have pre-ordered my copy and will be very pleased to own the entire saga in deluxe hardback. I just wish that they had taken just a little bit more care with some of the repro and included the colour sections from the early Progs. Still, pretty damn good.
Lovely order placed
No chance I wasn't going to order this
But like others have said, I'll be hoping for more consistent repro, especially seeing as the price is a tenner higher than vol 1 and 2 were
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 10 November, 2021, 01:04:54 PM
Quote from: sheridan on 10 November, 2021, 09:08:54 AM
Quote from: Max Headroom on 29 October, 2021, 07:11:05 PM
Hope they include the extra Deadlock material that was contained in the Hachette Partworks editions.
Quote from: 2000AD-ShopStories include:
The World of Nemesis (Book 3)
Deadlock
The Tomb of Torquemada
Tubular Hells
Hopefully it does include Deadlock, but I'd venture to suggest that contents list is badly wrong! Book 3? No Hicklenton? No Hammer of Warlocks? No Book X...?
Yep - looks like they updated the listing not long after I copied and pasted that - IndigoPrime has posted what it shows now.
Just been delivered which was a nice suprise!
Quote from: robprosser on 13 January, 2022, 02:48:15 PM
Just been delivered which was a nice suprise!
Um... you might want to check inside it, though.
Mais pourquoi?
I've had a look and can't see anything obvious. Is there a misprint or pages out of order or something?
Ah just seen the other thread. Fortunately mine's in English.
Just received mine - all in English and all reprint. By which I mean even the creator credits are reprint from some other previous editions - which means it speaks of the creators in the present tense from some pint about fifteen years ago. Clint Langley is at the start of experimenting with photo art, but more importantly John Hicklenton is also in the present tense. Everything else being reprint is one thing, but they should have updated the bios. The only other thing that jumped out was the cover of the Winter Special wasn't the highest quality reproduction, but everything else looks pretty good. Oh, and because it's easy to spot things which aren't quite right than it is to enumerate all the good bits - why was the cover in blue on black when the previous two editions were in metallic covers? Silver, gold and bronze would have worked better. Anyway, a nice completed addition to my bookshelf now.
p.s. the other thread (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=48224.0;topicseen) mentioned above (which I hadn't seen until I looked for it).
It's another lovely volume. These three books have to be the most complete version of Nemesis that exists (if not definitive?)
A minor annoyance that stories like Bride of the Warlock are printed out of sequence (again!), but that's almost made up for the same thing happening to Tubular Hells - so that you can pretend things finished for Nemesis and Torque with Book X!
Odd that the Hachette run got the running order right but this book didn't. Does the French volume duplicate the old Rebellion phone books?
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 19 January, 2022, 07:51:25 PM
Odd that the Hachette run got the running order right but this book didn't. Does the French volume duplicate the old Rebellion phone books?
I suppose, broadly speaking, they do - but the Heresy volumes include quite a bit more than the phonebooks, particularly this final volume (Deadlock, Tubular Hells, Tomb of Torquemada...)