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Re: Things that went over your head...
« Reply #1425 on: 02 May, 2021, 04:27:31 PM »
That's why there's that frame, where he's in hospital after losing the crest, and he's leafing through a Ukranian for Dummies phrasebook.
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Re: Things that went over your head...
« Reply #1426 on: 03 May, 2021, 01:37:06 PM »
And like a total eejit, I wasn't quite sure if you were joking or not and went looking for that bit in the story.
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Re: Things that went over your head...
« Reply #1427 on: 03 May, 2021, 07:10:41 PM »
I know how he feels, though - it's not easy learning a new language at that age...

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Re: Things that went over your head...
« Reply #1428 on: 03 May, 2021, 07:38:24 PM »
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Re: Things that went over your head...
« Reply #1429 on: 03 May, 2021, 07:45:07 PM »
Diavolo, but that Simon can draw.

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Re: Things that went over your head...
« Reply #1430 on: 04 May, 2021, 04:17:10 PM »
The 'J Edgar Hoover' nickname for Judge Edgar - did anybody cop the first time round that it was a misprint of 'J Edgar Hover', which makes a lot more sense?  Because I most certainly didn't.
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Re: Things that went over your head...
« Reply #1431 on: 08 May, 2021, 07:31:22 PM »
Brass & Bland == Brass Band

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Re: Things that went over your head...
« Reply #1432 on: 08 May, 2021, 08:16:48 PM »

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Re: Things that went over your head...
« Reply #1433 on: 10 May, 2021, 08:49:20 PM »
Another thing - did Guthrie start off as a black guy and then become a white guy after The Pit? Whereas Beenie seemed to have gone the other way. 
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Re: Things that went over your head...
« Reply #1434 on: 11 May, 2021, 12:22:15 AM »
Another thing - did Guthrie start off as a black guy and then become a white guy after The Pit? Whereas Beenie seemed to have gone the other way. 

Well, Beenie's biological mother* was hispanic, with family from the Puerto Rican Wastes.



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Re: Things that went over your head...
« Reply #1435 on: 28 May, 2021, 11:10:28 AM »
Another thing - did Guthrie start off as a black guy and then become a white guy after The Pit? Whereas Beenie seemed to have gone the other way. 

Well, Beenie's biological mother* was hispanic, with family from the Puerto Rican Wastes.



* it's complicated - America Jara.

Sorry, I missed this. It is a tad complicated, I know, and sometimes just depended on the colourist.

Another thing: Why was Erebus from The Red Seas called Erebus when he was clearly Cerberus?
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Re: Things that went over your head...
« Reply #1436 on: 28 May, 2021, 11:24:24 AM »
Another thing: Why was Erebus from The Red Seas called Erebus when he was clearly Cerberus?

I'm just not sure Edginton is too good at his mythology. When they meet the Norse gods in Red Seas there's stuff about Loki being Odin's son and Thor's half-brother - which comes entirely from Marvel comics.

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Re: Things that went over your head...
« Reply #1437 on: 28 May, 2021, 12:42:34 PM »
While all this and much more besides is true, it makes the assumption that Red Seas is about actual 'historical' mythology, rather than evoking a pop cultural, and specifically '50-70s movies, version of same. 

I believe Colin (and perhaps the Cosh?) to be our pre-eminent Red Seas scholars - perhaps if YNWA could spare a moment from his endless tabulations he could offer an insight?

For my own thruppence: Erebus is a cool name, in Greek myth the child of Chaos himself and a dark part of Hades' realm, and while it clearly is intended to call Cerberus to mind when used in conjunction with a multi-headed dog who is instrumental in the guarding of the nether/afterworld, it's enough to set this particular urbane clock-punk hound apart from his more animalistic namesake, while suggesting that what we think we know about Cerberus and his role may not apply.

As an aside, one of my beefs with many 'Mythological characters in modern days' stories is that IF they are true to their (contested, polysemous, partial) mythological origins, then their stories are known or done. I point a withering finger of judgement at Percy Jackson (film versions) in this regard, and raise a glass of a moderately priced Malbec to Eddie Campbell for navigating that fine line.

Better in general to present a story that uses the keywords, but writes a new mythology around them without pretending faithfulness.

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Re: Things that went over your head...
« Reply #1438 on: 28 May, 2021, 12:58:28 PM »
For my own thruppence: Erebus is a cool name,

I always assumed this. So it was good name, called back Cereberus but wasn't him (two heads, three heads etc) and maybe was the reality behind what became the myth.

There was also a ship in the 1840s that went missing on an Artic expedetion with the suitably named HMS Terror and it might reference that in some way....

...but I never really worked out how so go with my first stab.

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Re: Things that went over your head...
« Reply #1439 on: 28 May, 2021, 02:36:18 PM »
Plus spelling changes with the telling and retelling of a myth. Thus Odin, Wotan, Woden and Wodan, all becoming our Odin’s Day / Wednesday.
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