On his facebook status;
I went up to London yesterday to see the completed Dredd film. I've had reservations about certain aspects of it, and made them plain to the team at DNA. All but one of them - a little quibble at the beginning - have been addressed. And what a lot they've added. Music is on the button. SFX are excellent. Filming is impressive. I've not seen a modern 3-D movie before but I like it. I fou...
I went up to London yesterday to see the completed Dredd film. I've had reservations about certain aspects of it, and made them plain to the team at DNA. All but one of them - a little quibble at the beginning - have been addressed. And what a lot they've added. Music is on the button. SFX are excellent. Filming is impressive. I've not seen a modern 3-D movie before but I like it. I found myself reaching out trying to touch things that were dancing before my eyes. Karl is a great Dredd and Olivia gets Anderson completely. This is Dredd as it should be done - true to character, visceral, unrelentingly violent (but not off-puttingly so). It will open, I believe, sometime in September. No doubt you'll let me know what you think when you've seen it, but this has my recommendation.
Sorry need the drokking modify!
Geeez I've not seen a 3-D movie since Avatar. I'm so excited. Thanks for the great post Goaty :)
Excellent!
Wagner has always struck me as a man of great integrity - I have no doubt that this is 100% his honest and frank opinion. He has been very open in the past about things he wasn't convinced of, and judging by this they have taken on board a lot of what he said, which speaks very highly of the filmmakers in my eyes.
Awesome! Sounds similar to what he's said before but this time there's definitely much more enthusiasm from him. Awesome awesome awesome :)
Quote from: Goaty on 25 May, 2012, 05:29:28 PM
"but this has my recommendation".
I need to know nowt else now, ;)
Hurry up September!
Quote from: Mr.Fastrope on 25 May, 2012, 05:41:45 PM
Geeez I've not seen a 3-D movie since Avatar. I'm so excited. Thanks for the great post Goaty :)
No problems :-) Avatar was also only 3D film I been saw at the cinema, would be excited for Dredd,
trust in JW!
He wrote it 30 minutes ago
This is better than any trailer.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 25 May, 2012, 05:56:07 PM
This is better than any trailer.
:lol:
Best forum post of the day!
Quote from: radiator on 25 May, 2012, 05:45:27 PM
Excellent!
Wagner has always struck me as a man of great integrity - I have no doubt that this is 100% his honest and frank opinion. He has been very open in the past about things he wasn't convinced of, and judging by this they have taken on board a lot of what he said, which speaks very highly of the filmmakers in my eyes.
I've known John very well now for over 10 years and one thing I've learnt is that he's always honest.
That's what he posted then that is his true opinion.
Best forum post of the day!
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Definitely
Brilliant news! :D
Well that's a relief, I'm sure if it was crap Mr W would have stayed shtum, but this is postively gushing for him, great news indeed, mow if only S***** says he likes it too ;)
Goood to have the reccomendation from Mr Wagner, but the only thing that would keep me away is 3D, as my local cinema never has the effect calibrated correctly or something, so basically what I'm paying for is a blurry, visually dark film made mostly in slow motion where occasionally something looks like it's behind something else. Fuck that noise.
Quote from: Professah Byah on 25 May, 2012, 06:31:54 PM
Goood to have the reccomendation from Mr Wagner, but the only thing that would keep me away is 3D, as my local cinema never has the effect calibrated correctly or something, so basically what I'm paying for is a blurry, visually dark film made mostly in slow motion where occasionally something looks like it's behind something else. Fuck that noise.
You have to put the glasses on.
Quote from: blackmocco on 25 May, 2012, 06:33:45 PM
Quote from: Professah Byah on 25 May, 2012, 06:31:54 PM
Goood to have the reccomendation from Mr Wagner, but the only thing that would keep me away is 3D, as my local cinema never has the effect calibrated correctly or something, so basically what I'm paying for is a blurry, visually dark film made mostly in slow motion where occasionally something looks like it's behind something else. Fuck that noise.
You have to put the glasses on.
Or travelling to near 3D Cinema?
I'm trying to stay spoiler free for this and with that recommendation I might even try to avoid the trailer. All I needed to know and now I'll close my eyes and stick my fingers in my ears until September... hopefully.
Hopefully this means that the overall finished film is more 'sci fi' and more humourous than it otherwise might have been...
Good to hear...roll on September...bad memories of '95 beginning to fade away. :)
Quote from: Professah Byah on 25 May, 2012, 06:31:54 PM
Goood to have the reccomendation from Mr Wagner, but the only thing that would keep me away is 3D, as my local cinema never has the effect calibrated correctly or something, so basically what I'm paying for is a blurry, visually dark film made mostly in slow motion where occasionally something looks like it's behind something else.
Nah, sounds like it's calibrated exactly as it's meant to be.
I have actually never (ever) seen a 3D movie, and until now I've not really been all that fussed about it. Somehow, I don't think Dredd in 3D is going to be a disappointing cherry-pop.
Thanks for posting the quote, Goaty.
"London" is obviously really CF's cellar. Good news though. It's actually happening maaahnnn not some crazy dream.
Quote from: radiator on 25 May, 2012, 07:17:49 PM
Hopefully this means that the overall finished film is more 'sci fi' and more humourous than it otherwise might have been...
Don't think it'll be much different from the script they shot last year.
Yeah, but Matt Smith mentioned in an interview that they were making an effort to put a bit of humour/craziness in the backgrounds. I presumed that this was at Wagner's behest as around the same time he was canvassing for suggestions for that sort of thing on his Facebook page, to pass on to the producers.
Latest from John:
The quibble: use of modern day vehicles in a futuristic setting. Given the budget constraints it is hard to see what they could do to avoid it. It's no big deal, really. It's over quickly and once you're past that it's full steam ahead into Dreddworld. If this film does well we can expect the budget on the next to increase, therefore more money for such SFX. And just consider, on a budget effectively less than a fifth of the Stallone piece they've managed to make a movie far more representative of the character and strip we all know and love.
-- Mike
Quote from: radiator on 25 May, 2012, 08:01:39 PM
Yeah, but Matt Smith mentioned in an interview that they were making an effort to put a bit of humour/craziness in the backgrounds. I presumed that this was at Wagner's behest as around the same time he was canvassing for suggestions for that sort of thing on his Facebook page, to pass on to the producers.
That was before shooting started, they weren't attributed to script changes but background design and sets.
That sounds great, thanks Mike!
Iirc he was asking for suggestions for humourous vignettes that could take place between scenes as well as just background detail.
Guess we'll see when the movie is out.
Quote from: Mike Carroll on 25 May, 2012, 08:02:05 PM
Latest from John:
The quibble: use of modern day vehicles in a futuristic setting.
-- Mike
So this means that the rumour we were going to get CG replacements for the present day vehicles used in filming was not true.
Yes.
I saw Avatar in 3D and after 5 minutes it just seemed like 2D again. Who needs 3D?... that's what your brain is for.
I wouldn't miss it if it wasn't 3D, and I slightly resent that 3D eats into the budget that could have dealt with that quibble.
Quote from: Anderson's Shame on 25 May, 2012, 08:45:09 PM
So this means that the rumour we were going to get CG replacements for the present day vehicles used in filming was not true.
Only one vehicle was hinted at being replaced.
Quote from: Steve Green on 25 May, 2012, 08:59:58 PM
I wouldn't miss it if it wasn't 3D, and I slightly resent that 3D eats into the budget that could have dealt with that quibble.
Not sure it's that simple, one of the platforms they may have sold the prospect of a new
Dredd to investors was probably 3D. So 3D may have helped get some of the money that got the film made.
Yeah, I know - just wish 3D would FOAD (again)
Don't mind the old vehicles*, I like them more than the singular vehicles in the '95 film.
*early Dredd comics had some anachronisms
I bloody love 3D and I bloody love Dredd, so it's a win win for me!!! :D Huzzah!
That is really, really good news! Any writer with integrity would simply have kept quiet if they didn't like the movie.
I knew that investment in proper 3d glasses would pay off :)
I've come to quite like the idea of the vehicles being modern day - it might convey that it's a warning about the near future rather than a fantasy about the far future, and futuristic hovercars etc are a staple of sci fi movies; it might be betterr to avoid, especially if it distances itself from the earlier version. Plus, anything which cuts down on avoidable CGI is a good thing in my book. I'm more curious about how they get those cumbersome hard to park long bikes around the place.
The new Dredd, I believe, is partially being tailored towards certain modern concerns and it's easier to do this on a small budget than a large one. A 70's Dredd film would've had a 70's cultural slant. An 80's Dredd film would've had an 80's cultural slant.
Hmmm is it just going to be present day vehicles?
Or are they throwing the odd Pat-wagon into the mix I wonder?
Well, to me, it perfect realistic of future, as Mega-City 1 happens, many and many old vehicles there... not all upgrade their cars....
Isn't the story about a conflict mainly set in a 900 storey block? The vehicle thing doesn't need to be dwelt upon and as Mr
Wagner states it is over quickly cutting to the main event in Peach Tree's.
I quite liked the idea of modern-day vehicles in the film, as Dreddworld is a mish-mash of different sci-fi tropes thanks to having a small battalion of writers creating it as they went along for 30 years, so it's not much of a stretch to think of a few reasons why somewhere as huge as MC1 would have ground traffic, the most obvious explanation being that a flying car would be more expensive than one with wheels, be a mother to insure, and just getting behind the wheel would likely require weeks or months of training, security screening, etc.
If you want to play at sci-fi-idea top trumps you may as well ask why Judges are frontline combatants rather than people who pilot multiple robojudges from a small room somewhere. MC1 is a big enough playpen that it can absorb occasional anachronisms.
This sounds great!
I'm curious what he meant about (all but one) of his reservations being addressed. Does that mean they're actually going to change things, at this late date, for him? If so, that's a wonderful sign of respect from the film-makers.
My reading is it's more that they brought Wagner on board as a consultant and they listened to him, making changes as the movie progressed. The uniform is known to be one aspect of this, becoming more Dredd-like and less generic riot cop.
As for the vehicles, look outside. Cars don't change that much over time.
Quote from: Syne on 26 May, 2012, 12:29:45 AM
I'm curious what he meant about (all but one) of his reservations being addressed. Does that mean they're actually going to change things, at this late date, for him? If so, that's a wonderful sign of respect from the film-makers.
This:
The quibble: use of modern day vehicles in a futuristic setting. Given the budget constraints it is hard to see what they could do to avoid it. It's no big deal, really. It's over quickly and once you're past that it's full steam ahead into Dreddworld. If this film does well we can expect the budget on the next to increase, therefore more money for such SFX. And just consider, on a budget effectively less than a fifth of the Stallone piece they've managed to make a movie far more representative of the character and strip we all know and love.
Quote from: Syne on 26 May, 2012, 12:29:45 AM
Does that mean they're actually going to change things, at this late date, for him?
They've all ready changed those things, the film's finished. The quibbles I believe are last year's quibbles.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 12:38:36 AM
Quote from: Syne on 26 May, 2012, 12:29:45 AM
Does that mean they're actually going to change things, at this late date, for him?
They've all ready changed those things, the film's finished. The quibbles I believe are last year's quibbles.
Doh! I get it now. Early Saturday morning syndrome on my part.
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 26 May, 2012, 12:35:32 AM
My reading is it's more that they brought Wagner on board as a consultant and they listened to him, making changes as the movie progressed. The uniform is known to be one aspect of this, becoming more Dredd-like and less generic riot cop.
As for the vehicles, look outside. Cars don't change that much over time.
Well, maybe if you live in Cuba they don't.....
But the idea of having modern cars in the movie doesn't bother me at all.
If it is good enough for John Wagner then it is good enough for me. Not that I'd have given it a miss but I'd have been nervous going in.
Also the news made Comic Book Movie.com:
www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=60429#yYikTzAxWHBWvTok.18
This is FANTASTIC news from John Wagner, great to know he fully approves of the new adaptation, and that the people behind it have actually listened and taken onboard his sage advice on all things Dredd, as far as the modern vehicles in the new film, I've said it here before that I for one will find it pleasantly refreshing to see a futuristic city onscreen that DOESN'T have the now-cliched airborne traffic, it will give Dredd a grittier, more realistic, end-of-century look and feel to it, as opposed to the frankly ridiculous looking taxi vehicles in the 1995 debacle, and all the better for it.
Just a question though, the budget for Dredd is $45million, whereas the budget for the 1995 debacle was (according to Danny Cannon) just over $80million, how does the former equate to being "less than a fifth" than the latter, or does the budget mentioned for Dredd also include advertising/marketing? Don't get me wrong, it's not important, John Wagner's thumbs-up is the last word for me in terms of the seal of approval, one last thing though, I hope there's midnight screenings of Dredd, anyone here going to one in Belfast, let me know and I'll see ya there...
Quote from: Emperor on 26 May, 2012, 01:36:50 AM
If it is good enough for John Wagner then it is good enough for me. Not that I'd have given it a miss but I'd have been nervous going in.
Also the news made Comic Book Movie.com:
www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=60429#yYikTzAxWHBWvTok.18
Some interesting comments from non forumites in this link.
The modern vehicles don't bother me as such - I certainly wasn't expecting flying vehicles to be commonplace outside the emergency services as they have today.
I just think it's a bit of a stylistic jarring when you have the helmet and the bike looking 'different' to the rest of the world.
I know it's iconic, but if you're not going to strip the whole of the uniform and world back as Carlos did in Origins, it may feel a bit incongruous if you don't have more elements from a near future - I'm not talking flying vehicles, but that there's something else there and the pinnacle of Justice Department's tech is not some 4x4's and a frankly iffy looking bike.
I don't know if it's a circle that can be squared in a film, where you've got a whole police force with this strange helmet and odd-looking bike - compared to Batman who is just a weird individual.
Anyway, it's good to hear the rest of the film is up to snuff.
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 26 May, 2012, 03:03:40 AM
Just a question though, the budget for Dredd is $45million, whereas the budget for the 1995 debacle was (according to Danny Cannon) just over $80million, how does the former equate to being "less than a fifth" than the latter, or does the budget mentioned for Dredd also include advertising/marketing?
$80 million nearly
20 years ago does not equal $80 million now.
Dredd '95 was closer to $100 million, adjusted to current inflation and the cost of making the equivalent Hollywood film on that same scale and with that actor today it would be closer to $200 million maybe more. That's the average they're spending on
tentpole films nowadays.
Quote from: dracula1 on 26 May, 2012, 06:32:22 AM
www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=60429#yYikTzAxWHBWvTok.18
There's a mention here about the Film possibly being delayed to 2013. I'm sure it's just the personal feeling of the Net reporter but could that happen? Lot's of awfy big Films coming out soon.
I think
Total Recall comes out in August so could that put off
DREDD till next year?
Budgets don't worry me.
Pitch Black $23mil and that still gets more repeat viewings than most big budget flicks at mine.
It's what you do with it that counts.
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 26 May, 2012, 10:20:26 AM
Quote from: dracula1 on 26 May, 2012, 06:32:22 AM
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There's a mention here about the Film possibly being delayed to 2013. I'm sure it's just the personal feeling of the Net reporter but could that happen? Lot's of awfy big Films coming out soon.
I thinkTotal Recall comes out in August so could that put off DREDD till next year?
The remark is just unsubstantiated speculation based probably on the G.I Joe debacle!
I can't see Dredd suffering the same fate and I don't think Total Recall is any significant threat.
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 26 May, 2012, 10:20:26 AM
There's a mention here about the Film possibly being delayed to 2013. I'm sure it's just the personal feeling of the Net reporter but could that happen? Lot's of awfy big Films coming out soon.
Do you consider what happened to GI JOE II would happen to Dredd? The GI JOE thing is completely unprecedented and IM Global and its investors would lose out far more if they pulled out of its released date. GI JOE is more than likely being pulled because it is currently a bad film, as test screeners have reported, and Paramount fell by tweaking it and releasing it 9 months later, that they can make more money.
It's released in late September when there's no other competition in its genre, it's also not a big budget film so it won't be competing for the same box-office as GI JOE II or any of the other big-budget studio films.
Dredd is practically an indie.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 10:53:07 AM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 26 May, 2012, 10:20:26 AM
There's a mention here about the Film possibly being delayed to 2013. I'm sure it's just the personal feeling of the Net reporter but could that happen? Lot's of awfy big Films coming out soon.
Do you consider what happened to GI JOE II would happen to Dredd? The GI JOE thing is completely unprecedented and IM Global and its investors would lose out far more if they pulled out of its released date. GI JOE is more than likely being pulled because it is currently a bad film, as test screeners have reported, and Paramount fell by tweaking it and releasing it 9 months later, that they can make more money.
It's released in late September when there's no other competition in its genre, it's also not a big budget film so it won't be competing for the same box-office as GI JOE II or any of the other big-budget studio films.
Dredd is practically an indie.
THIS!
I can't see why it would be pushed to 2013. It's already had to deal with the 'Director locked out of edit thing', bumping it to next year would only re-introduce speculation about the quality.
It's not unprecedented that indie films can get delayed though - looking at Cabin in the Woods, it was shot in 2009 and released this year.
Quote from: Steve Green on 26 May, 2012, 11:58:09 AM
It's not unprecedented that indie films can get delayed though - looking at Cabin in the Woods, it was shot in 2009 and released this year.
Not a comparitive situation, that was due to MGM filing for bankruptcy and the release of the film being tied up in legal knots, nothing to do with its quality. Now unless IM Global collapse in the meantime, Dredd's release is a safe bet.
Quote from: Mike Carroll on 25 May, 2012, 08:02:05 PM
Latest from John:
The quibble: use of modern day vehicles in a futuristic setting. Given the budget constraints it is hard to see what they could do to avoid it. It's no big deal, really. It's over quickly and once you're past that it's full steam ahead into Dreddworld...
I reckon this might mean that we do get our crappy white van after all.
I just meant being an indie doesn't make it more immune from being shunted, just the opposite - like you say yourself a summer blockbuster being bumped to next year is unprecedented.
Not that I expect it to happen to Dredd, but nothing's ever certain.
Quote from: Adrian Bamforth on 25 May, 2012, 10:23:21 PM
I've come to quite like the idea of the vehicles being modern day
Me too, I have no problem with that. It never hurt Mad Max. When I saw the shot of the bike I wondered if they would CG the components into the shots, then I read the rumour about the possible vehicle CG, I wondered if it would (hoped) it'd be the bike. Am I alone in thinking Dredd has been robbed in recent years?...the bikes in Priest were very good. The Dark Knights bike now sports cannons etc, fat tyres. It's not on.
Quote from: darnmarr on 26 May, 2012, 12:36:02 PM
Quote from: Mike Carroll on 25 May, 2012, 08:02:05 PM
Latest from John:
The quibble: use of modern day vehicles in a futuristic setting. Given the budget constraints it is hard to see what they could do to avoid it. It's no big deal, really. It's over quickly and once you're past that it's full steam ahead into Dreddworld...
I reckon this might mean that we do get our crappy white van after all.
Yep.
Although I think it's a light blue...
Oh come on, it only few seconds unofficial footage with some van, so lot of moans about THAT? Take a chill pill, JW approves with the completed film. Happy days!
No moan meant: I never had a problem with the lack of hovercraft, the story's the thing and the reactions sound great.
Dredd pursues White-Van-Man for no tax & insurance- Mega City Star.
Top Cop in 'Stop-White-Van' flop.
I am really glad they kept the old cars.
You're all going to look so foolish when it turns out it's light blue.
Quote from: Steve Green on 26 May, 2012, 01:09:36 PM
You're all going to look so foolish when it turns out it's light blue.
You're all going to look so foolish when it turns out the van has no bearing on your enjoyment of the film.
I dunno, I'm genuinely expecting the portion with the lawmaster is going to be the bit when I sink a little into my seat.
I'm sure the rest of the film will be fine, but I'll be interested to see how much of it turns up in the trailer.
Quote from: shaolin_monkey on 26 May, 2012, 01:29:04 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 26 May, 2012, 01:09:36 PM
You're all going to look so foolish when it turns out it's light blue.
You're all going to look so foolish when it turns out the van has no bearing on your enjoyment of the film.
I dunno... I'm really looking forward to this movie, which I believe is called 'White (Or possibly light blue) Van! 9featuring Judge Dredd)'
Quote from: Steve Green on 26 May, 2012, 01:42:45 PM
I dunno, I'm genuinely expecting the portion with the lawmaster is going to be the bit when I sink a little into my seat.
I think it'll all turn on how that segment is filmed/cut/enhanced by CGI, at the very least it'll have the 'real' factor going for it. Real bikes, real streets.
In the '95 film all the Lawmaster scenes looked stifled and stagey, did they ever get beyond 15mph or travel more than a few feet?
and when they go
BUDDA BUDDA, I 'd find it hard not to smile.
We'll know soon enough.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 02:05:24 PM
In the '95 film all the Lawmaster scenes looked stifled and stagey, did they ever get beyond 15mph or travel more than a few feet?
I seem to remember a tale of one of them travelling more than a few feet, in a stright line, right into a window after the director had called cut. :lol:
BUDDA BUDDA! Yeah! :D
Stew.
Quote from: Professah Byah on 26 May, 2012, 12:04:34 AM
I quite liked the idea of modern-day vehicles in the film, as Dreddworld is a mish-mash of different sci-fi tropes thanks to having a small battalion of writers creating it as they went along for 30 years, so it's not much of a stretch to think of a few reasons why somewhere as huge as MC1 would have ground traffic, the most obvious explanation being that a flying car would be more expensive than one with wheels, be a mother to insure, and just getting behind the wheel would likely require weeks or months of training, security screening, etc.
If you want to play at sci-fi-idea top trumps you may as well ask why Judges are frontline combatants rather than people who pilot multiple robojudges from a small room somewhere. MC1 is a big enough playpen that it can absorb occasional anachronisms.
I don't think it's a question of the traffic being on the ground. MC-1 as portrayed in the comics has always had far more 'ground' traffic (albeit mostly on elevated highways) than flight capable vehicles. In fact the sheer volume of wheeled traffic and the chaos and opportunities for crime which could result from it was a very common theme in many of the earlier Dredd stories.
It's not a van, it's a mini-mopad.
What this film needs if fuckin' MO-PADS.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 11:26:02 PM
What this film needs if fuckin' MO-PADS.
Yeah, it needs Dredd leaping from mo-pad to mo-pad in pursuit of a perp on a 30-lane highway at ridiculous speeds. That's
real Dredd for you. I miss that kind of thing from the earlier Dredds!
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 26 May, 2012, 11:34:40 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 11:26:02 PM
What this film needs if fuckin' MO-PADS.
Yeah, it needs Dredd leaping from mo-pad to mo-pad in pursuit of a perp on a 30-lane highway at ridiculous speeds. That's real Dredd for you. I miss that kind of thing from the earlier Dredds!
I'm with you guys there! All they need would be some hints of overskeds loaded with traffic in the background. I think the bike will end up being a 'bone of contention' for many though, if it ended up looking like a Steve Dillon bike I'd be happy (his tyres actually looked like the bike could lean)
A reasonably early Dredd drawn by Dillon, I think it was called 'The Wreckers', showed just how chaotic multi-lane pileups can be! :)
Well when we all fretted about the (possibly periwinkle blue van) FX clip, jock strongly hinted that the van would be otherwise, but now from Mister Wagner's 'quibble', I reckon we've got a few crappy non-Dredd-canon vehicles here and there and it matters not a jot because it's a good film.
How happy could I be? Let me say Budda Budda!
Someone ask Mr. Wagner if he filmed the movie on his mobile, and if so can we come round and watch it! :lol:
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 26 May, 2012, 11:34:40 PM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 26 May, 2012, 11:26:02 PM
What this film needs if fuckin' MO-PADS.
Yeah, it needs Dredd leaping from mo-pad to mo-pad in pursuit of a perp on a 30-lane highway at ridiculous speeds. That's real Dredd for you. I miss that kind of thing from the earlier Dredds!
In Red, Urbans's character leapt from the sidewalk to the roof of a car and then to the target car, bang bang, no break in between jumps - so cool. I may have rewinded it a few times to see it again.
I remember an interview - from ComicCon I think - where he said he was the fittest he's ever been, to film Dredd, so I'm hopeful we will get a much more physical Dredd.
Quote from: Mark Taylor on 26 May, 2012, 11:19:28 PM
I don't think it's a question of the traffic being on the ground. MC-1 as portrayed in the comics has always had far more 'ground' traffic (albeit mostly on elevated highways) than flight capable vehicles. In fact the sheer volume of wheeled traffic and the chaos and opportunities for crime which could result from it was a very common theme in many of the earlier Dredd stories.
Agreed. The Stallone movie used a lot of flying vehicles. The volume of traffic, the giant freeways with giant trucks and Judges on regular, non-flying Lawmasters is more fitting.
White vans, blue vans, pink vans, red white and drokking blue vans! Mopeds, scooters, "Lawn" masters, helmets too big, helmets too small, wonky helmets, bid purple helmets!
I couldn't give a jot because when John Wagner writes "Karl is a great Dredd and Olivia gets Anderson completely. This is Dredd as it should be done - true to character, visceral, unrelentingly violent...."
That, friends of 2000ad and the board, is all I need to know. ;)
Quote from: dweezil2 on 27 May, 2012, 10:27:48 PM
White vans, blue vans, pink vans, red white and drokking blue vans! Mopeds, scooters, "Lawn" masters, helmets too big, helmets too small, wonky helmets, bid purple helmets!
I couldn't give a jot because when John Wagner writes "Karl is a great Dredd and Olivia gets Anderson completely. This is Dredd as it should be done - true to character, visceral, unrelentingly violent...."
That, friends of 2000ad and the board, is all I need to know. ;)
What he said ^^
They ain't all mo-pads -Big meg white van.
http://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=147455&gsub=18998
Quote from: BOODA on 28 May, 2012, 08:19:34 AM
They ain't all mo-pads -Big meg white van.
http://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=147455&gsub=18998
Awesome! Forgot about that - great pic!
Just quickly re-read this thread.
A stonking plus from the Wagner droid for the film with a little negative and it's that little negative that gets pounced on.
Go figure?
V
Quote from: vzzbux on 28 May, 2012, 07:53:18 PM
Just quickly re-read this thread.
A stonking plus from the Wagner droid for the film with a little negative and it's that little negative that gets pounced on.
Go figure?
See, that minor negative was actually the thing that I found most reassuring, because that's what makes it clear that the rest of the comments are considered and genuine. I trust a glowing review with a "but there
was one tiny little thing that bugged me" caveat much more than I do one that's indiscriminately enthused about everything.
the messiah has declared it watchable and watch it we shall. God bless technology so there's no gossip word of mouth on what wagners opinion in. I've dodged most of the coverage for fear of furth skewing an already sideways image but I'm glad to hear its not an Alan Smithee situation. I have heard the music of mega city 1 on radio 6 and I really loved its dark retro 80s feel - spot on. Their discussion on the rock/electronica amongst fans was very interesting and I'm glad they settled on electronica x
John Wagner posts a little bit more on his Facebook regarding Dredd:
Re the vehicles: a point was made, valid to a large extent, that in a society like Mega-City One where most of the citizens are impoverished, retread vehicles would be the norm. Sorry, don't know when a trailer will be out, but the movie won't be long. No doubt you'll all come on here and let me know what you think when you've seen it!
I agree with him about the vehicles, I want to see a recognizable city in Dredd, it may be set in the future, just not the distant future, and the decade-after-next look and feel worked like gangbusters for RoboCop and it'll do likewise for Dredd, and if the trailer was going to be shown before Prometheus, I think John Wagner would know, meaning it's likely not...
I'm interested to know what IS futuristic about this Dredd and what have the SFX been spent on other than neon what we have seen so far,can't all have gone on muzzle flashes?
And its a genuine comment,not being flippant.
I think the point that MC-1 is primarily an impoverished, dirt-poor city and people would be driving crappy old models makes perfect sense. I inferred from Wagner's comment that maybe as it happens early in the film, it's not immediately apparent that this it is set in the future until it gets into 'Dreddworld' and therefore could be a bit jarring to newbies.
I'm sure people will figure it out though. What with, you know, the whole Judges thing. :D
Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 29 May, 2012, 05:43:50 AM
I'm interested to know what IS futuristic about this Dredd and what have the SFX been spent on other than neon what we have seen so far,can't all have gone on muzzle flashes?
And its a genuine comment,not being flippant.
Can't really say on the futuristic, as we've only seen a few blocks dotted in the background.
Seem to recall the interior sets of the block had green screen from stills from the camera setup - so these would be used to add background - unsure if that was the interior of the block atrium or the outside, so it could be city, or extending the interior.
Slomo sequences will doubtless have something, but I don't imagine that a lot has been spent on effects in general. It's more things like that neon, just a bit of extra set-dressing possibly.
I would imagine most of the sfx shots would be the city backgrounds, but I don't expect it will look too much like the mc1 we know from the comics. Will hopefully look cool in its own way though.
Very cool to hear the main man liked the movie, and extra cool to hear they addressed his concerns with it.
Now, hopefully we get too see it a bit sometime very soon, bring on the trailer!
With regards to the look of the city I'm actually kinda hoping they don't make it look too futuristic as anyone who tries inevitably ends up being compared unfavourably to Blade Runner.
Anyway, I was extremely buzzed after reading Wagner's review. It's helped combat the fears I've been having ever since the rumours of behind the scenes problems (Alex Garland taking over etc) started cropping up on the news sites.
If you look at many of the comic progs, the background scenery of Mega-City One is often quite low key. There is really no need for a lot of extravagant sci-fi backgrounds. A few shots at the beginning and end of the film should suffice, to show off the scale and setting.
Whether the city scenes look exactly like the comicbook or not isn't that important, as long as they're futuristic and don't look like a mundane modern city.
Quote from: BOODA on 28 May, 2012, 08:19:34 AM
They ain't all mo-pads -Big meg white van.
http://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=147455&gsub=18998
...helmet's too big..
Quote from: BOODA on 28 May, 2012, 08:19:34 AM
They ain't all mo-pads -Big meg white van.
http://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=147455&gsub=18998
...helmet's too big..
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:lol:
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Quote from: BOODA on 28 May, 2012, 08:19:34 AM
They ain't all mo-pads -Big meg white van.
http://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=147455&gsub=18998
...helmet's too big..
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And there is no cod piece.
From @Judge_Pal:
QuoteCitizens! After viewing upcoming Justice Dept documentary 'Dredd', Senior Judge John Wagner deemed it 'Grudtastic!'. ow.ly/1MWB7R
:D
Is something DREDD about to kick off ? It sure feels like it! :-)
Summats afoot :-\
Thrill levels have gone off the scale after Mr. Wagner's comments. :P
Well I've said before on here I don't like Dredds bike and I don't like the sound of modern vehicles either. I can understand maybe one or two modern vehicles being in it as I occasionally see the odd Morris Minor or other 60s and 70s cars, but we should be seeing futuristic looking vehicles.
AND flying cars.
I know other films have done flying cars but Mega City should look impressive in all ways and adding flying cars to a huge futuristic city does make it look more impressive. Sounds pretty skinflint to me.
Well we're not seeing those things and the film's done. They didn't have the resources and they couldn't print their own money, what can you do.
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 12 June, 2012, 12:16:40 AM
Well I've said before on here I don't like Dredds bike and I don't like the sound of modern vehicles either. I can understand maybe one or two modern vehicles being in it as I occasionally see the odd Morris Minor or other 60s and 70s cars, but we should be seeing futuristic looking vehicles.
AND flying cars.
I know other films have done flying cars but Mega City should look impressive in all ways and adding flying cars to a huge futuristic city does make it look more impressive. Sounds pretty skinflint to me.
Don't go see it then. The End.
Or, of course, go wrangle up $100 million of your own and make your own version with all the flying cars you want.
The Two Steve's did just that, the affluent fucks.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 June, 2012, 12:25:46 AM
Well we're not seeing those things and the film's done. They didn't have the resources and they couldn't print their own money, what can you do.
Couldn't they have done a few shots with the cars flying past buildings in the distance? I'm not going to mention the fan film as it often gets mentioned, but I've seen fans do nice cgi on Youtube. Couldn't they have got some of them to do some of the cgi on the cheap?
I'm sure fans would be more than happy to do just that, but would it be ethical to essentially get them to supply effects for free?...
Quote from: The Bissler on 12 June, 2012, 01:02:44 AM
I'm sure fans would be more than happy to do just that, but would it be ethical to essentially get them to supply effects for free?...
If they wanted to then yes.
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 12 June, 2012, 12:59:15 AM
Couldn't they have done a few shots with the cars flying past buildings in the distance? I'm not going to mention the fan film as it often gets mentioned, but I've seen fans do nice cgi on Youtube. Couldn't they have got some of them to do some of the cgi on the cheap?
Bit silly and incongruous to have present-day vehicles on the ground and then throw in a few flying cars in the background. They chose the aesthetic they could afford and therefore they have to stick to that design choice as it informs the whole film.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 June, 2012, 01:09:11 AM
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 12 June, 2012, 12:59:15 AM
Couldn't they have done a few shots with the cars flying past buildings in the distance? I'm not going to mention the fan film as it often gets mentioned, but I've seen fans do nice cgi on Youtube. Couldn't they have got some of them to do some of the cgi on the cheap?
Bit silly and incongruous to have present-day vehicles on the ground and then throw in a few flying cars in the background. They chose the aesthetic they could afford and therefore they have to stick to that design choice as it informs the whole film.
Not necessarily if it's all mixed in well. You could cgi a few really futuristic vehicles in with the modern ones in the foreground too.
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 12 June, 2012, 01:04:35 AM
Quote from: The Bissler on 12 June, 2012, 01:02:44 AM
I'm sure fans would be more than happy to do just that, but would it be ethical to essentially get them to supply effects for free?...
If they wanted to then yes.
Wouldn't the filmmakers then be open to negative publicity? Headlines along the lines of; "No justice in Dredd's slave-labour special effects team"...
Also agree with Joe's comment. Might be interesting as well to watch MC-1's technology and landscape grow and develop over the course of a trilogy (fingers crossed)!
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 12 June, 2012, 01:13:18 AM
Not necessarily if it's all mixed in well. You could cgi a few really futuristic vehicles in with the modern ones in the foreground too.
Then the present day vehicles would stand-out on the ground too, especially if they're being used by the Judges who we'd assume control the best tech and resources in the city since they are the controlling class. The world they've created makes sense and at the end of the day can you rely on a bunch of fans to be there when you need them, in their spare time when changes are needed? Just a bad idea, these things cost time and money to be done right. They've used their budget well.
Quote from: The Bissler on 12 June, 2012, 01:13:44 AM
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 12 June, 2012, 01:04:35 AM
Quote from: The Bissler on 12 June, 2012, 01:02:44 AM
I'm sure fans would be more than happy to do just that, but would it be ethical to essentially get them to supply effects for free?...
If they wanted to then yes.
Wouldn't the filmmakers then be open to negative publicity? Headlines along the lines of; "No justice in Dredd's slave-labour special effects team"...
Also agree with Joe's comment. Might be interesting as well to watch MC-1's technology and landscape grow and develop over the course of a trilogy (fingers crossed)!
I couldn't care less if they had negative publicity about slave labour and I don't think most other fans would too. All I care about is whether the finished film looks really good and it doesn't have negative publicity for looking cheap. That'll be far worse.
If I was DNA I'd get some talented fans who can do good cgi fast to spruce it up. If I could do it I'd offer my services for free. Unfortunately I've never done cgi though.
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 12 June, 2012, 01:20:06 AM
If I was DNA I'd get some talented fans who can do good cgi fast to spruce it up. If I could do it I'd offer my services for free. Unfortunately I've never done cgi though.
And those fans probably have day jobs that take up most of their time, you can't rely on such a scheme working well enough in a professional manner and getting things done for deadlines when you need them; all at the behest of an enthusiasts spare time. Those shots can take months and are subject to change. These piecemeal collective ideas just don't work.
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 12 June, 2012, 01:20:06 AM
Quote from: The Bissler on 12 June, 2012, 01:13:44 AM
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 12 June, 2012, 01:04:35 AM
Quote from: The Bissler on 12 June, 2012, 01:02:44 AM
I'm sure fans would be more than happy to do just that, but would it be ethical to essentially get them to supply effects for free?...
If they wanted to then yes.
Wouldn't the filmmakers then be open to negative publicity? Headlines along the lines of; "No justice in Dredd's slave-labour special effects team"...
Also agree with Joe's comment. Might be interesting as well to watch MC-1's technology and landscape grow and develop over the course of a trilogy (fingers crossed)!
I couldn't care less if they had negative publicity about slave labour and I don't think most other fans would too. All I care about is whether the finished film looks really good and it doesn't have negative publicity for looking cheap. That'll be far worse.
If I was DNA I'd get some talented fans who can do good cgi fast to spruce it up. If I could do it I'd offer my services for free. Unfortunately I've never done cgi though.
Like you, I'm a Dredd fan and I couldn't care less about what publicity surrounds the film. I'm going to see it no matter what is said. But all I'm worried about is that negative publicity could put off some non-Dredd filmgoers who may have gone to see it... I just want the film to be a commercial success so more films can be made.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 June, 2012, 01:25:23 AM
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 12 June, 2012, 01:20:06 AM
If I was DNA I'd get some talented fans who can do good cgi fast to spruce it up. If I could do it I'd offer my services for free. Unfortunately I've never done cgi though.
And those fans probably have day jobs that take up most of their time, you can't rely on such a scheme working well enough in a professional manner and getting things done for deadlines when you need them; all at the behest of an enthusiasts spare time. Those shots can take months and are subject to change. These piecemeal collective ideas just don't work.
I can appreciate that but I just fail to see how some of the cgi artists working on this film couldn't have done a few flying cars etc. Surely cgi's cheaper than what it used to be and getting better all the time.
Quote from: The Bissler on 12 June, 2012, 01:31:59 AM
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 12 June, 2012, 01:20:06 AM
Quote from: The Bissler on 12 June, 2012, 01:13:44 AM
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 12 June, 2012, 01:04:35 AM
Quote from: The Bissler on 12 June, 2012, 01:02:44 AM
I'm sure fans would be more than happy to do just that, but would it be ethical to essentially get them to supply effects for free?...
If they wanted to then yes.
Wouldn't the filmmakers then be open to negative publicity? Headlines along the lines of; "No justice in Dredd's slave-labour special effects team"...
Also agree with Joe's comment. Might be interesting as well to watch MC-1's technology and landscape grow and develop over the course of a trilogy (fingers crossed)!
I couldn't care less if they had negative publicity about slave labour and I don't think most other fans would too. All I care about is whether the finished film looks really good and it doesn't have negative publicity for looking cheap. That'll be far worse.
If I was DNA I'd get some talented fans who can do good cgi fast to spruce it up. If I could do it I'd offer my services for free. Unfortunately I've never done cgi though.
Like you, I'm a Dredd fan and I couldn't care less about what publicity surrounds the film. I'm going to see it no matter what is said. But all I'm worried about is that negative publicity could put off some non-Dredd filmgoers who may have gone to see it... I just want the film to be a commercial success so more films can be made.
So do I and I'm not going to totally bash the film before I see it. I have certain reservations about what they're doing which I've already mentioned in the past but I'm not liking this thing about modern cars and no flying cars which I've found out today also. That picture of the buildings released the other day looked reasonably good but Mega city One needs to look very impressive and some of this don't sound too good guys.
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 12 June, 2012, 01:36:41 AM
I can appreciate that but I just fail to see how some of the cgi artists working on this film couldn't have done a few flying cars etc. Surely cgi's cheaper than what it used to be and getting better all the time.
because the more CGI you do the more TIME it takes and TIME costs MONEY. No matter what, you're paying people to work. It doesn't get done by itself and doesn't get done any faster; things still need to be designed by individual people and rendered by machines.
It's beside the point anyway as it's not the visual aesthetic they wanted for the film. Flying cars are not in the screenplay.
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 12 June, 2012, 01:41:19 AM
I'm not liking this thing about modern cars and no flying cars which I've found out today also.
It's been publically known since the middle of the shoot in Winter 2010.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 June, 2012, 01:45:55 AM
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 12 June, 2012, 01:41:19 AM
I'm not liking this thing about modern cars and no flying cars which I've found out today also.
It's been publically known since the middle of the shoot in Winter 2010.
I must have missed that then. I haven't really been keeping up with it.
Let's hope it doesn't look like Threadbare City One!
No flying-cars in brief scenes featured at the beginning really shouldn't be a a deal-breaker in a film about Judge Dredd arresting an entire city-block.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 June, 2012, 01:52:39 AM
No flying-cars in brief scenes featured at the beginning really shouldn't be a a deal-breaker in a film about Judge Dredd arresting an entire city-block.
Let's hope not.
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 12 June, 2012, 01:41:19 AM
I'm not liking this thing about modern cars and no flying cars which I've found out today also. That picture of the buildings released the other day looked reasonably good but Mega city One needs to look very impressive and some of this don't sound too good guys.
I for one am darn glad there's no flying cars in Dredd, that whole futuristic-airborne-traffic thing has become such a well-worn cliche as to become just boring now, and I disagree that Mega-City One didn't look impressive in that shot released last week, it's just not impressive in the way you hoped it would look, the comic book MC-1 wouldn't fit the more gritty heightened-realism that DNA Films are going with on Dredd, and I'm finding it a breath of fresh air in comparison to the usual futuristic city schtick we see onscreen these days (
Total Recall remake, we're looking at you)...
I've just looked at the Recall trailer and that city looks more like the Big Meg than what I've seen from Dredd so far. I really hope my doubts are squashed once they pull their fingers out and release a trailer. There is going to be some interesting debate going on once this thing is out.
Quote from: minus on 12 June, 2012, 04:08:12 AM
I've just looked at the Recall trailer and that city looks more like the Big Meg than what I've seen from Dredd so far. I really hope my doubts are squashed once they pull their fingers out and release a trailer. There is going to be some interesting debate going on once this thing is out.
It'll come to something if Total Recall looks more like Mega City than Dredd does.
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 12 June, 2012, 02:50:47 AM
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 12 June, 2012, 01:41:19 AM
I'm not liking this thing about modern cars and no flying cars which I've found out today also. That picture of the buildings released the other day looked reasonably good but Mega city One needs to look very impressive and some of this don't sound too good guys.
I for one am darn glad there's no flying cars in Dredd, that whole futuristic-airborne-traffic thing has become such a well-worn cliche as to become just boring now, and I disagree that Mega-City One didn't look impressive in that shot released last week, it's just not impressive in the way you hoped it would look, the comic book MC-1 wouldn't fit the more gritty heightened-realism that DNA Films are going with on Dredd, and I'm finding it a breath of fresh air in comparison to the usual futuristic city schtick we see onscreen these days (Total Recall remake, we're looking at you)...
Has it? There hasn't exactly been loads of films with flying cars. I can only count around 7 at the moment and one of them is Stallones Dredd. There's nothing wrong with a few cliches in a film where people pretty much expect to see them anyway.
Are flying cars really a dealbreaker here? I just couldn't care less...
Crowded lanes of flying cars have been done to death by Fifth Element and the Star Wars prequels and cartoons. Lone flying cars have been done brilliantly by Bladerunner and even Back to the Future. There's no visual novelty to be had there. In fact, the overuse of Coruscant itself is a big argument for keeping Dredd down to earth, however much I'd like to see the crazy version of MC-1.
Quote from: TordelBack on 12 June, 2012, 08:12:55 AM
in fact, the overuse of Coruscant itself is a big argument for keeping Dredd down to earth, however much I'd like to see the crazy version of MC-1.
Yep...that vision is overdone and Coruscant jumped the shark, nuked the fridge.
I guess Yogi Berra was right, the Future ain't what it used to be, I guess.
Kids today and their 'micro futures'. Rassafrassa...
Since I've been mentioned... I'll jump in here.
Flying cars make no odds to me, as people have said it's been done to death and it looks like they've made a conscious decision to separate it from that.
Even on our film, it's more about vehicles on roads, a lot of them with wheels. Yes, we've got flying vehicles in the background but we're also not bothered about commercial viability either that's why we can be faithful to the comic.
As for doing stuff for free, that's a very dangerous road for a couple of reasons - apart from the reason Joe mentioned, it's something that Digital Domain have tried where students actually pay to work as interns and that got a lot of criticism.
Working for free is not a sustainable business model.
Now, actually doing background areial traffic wouldn't have been a big deal as it would have been small, and the hard work is done in rotoscoping around foreground action for the background city blocks - the big question is why would you put it in if all the other vehicles are ground based, and contemporary?
If they'd wanted to put them in, they'd really have to do more on the ground in the way of vehicles, which have to stand up to more scrutiny and would be a lot more expensive.
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 June, 2012, 09:42:50 AM
Even on our film
Superb, by the way, Steve. Very impressive....and for the Dredd team to show the love and tag you! No way the original Judge Minty would have been mentioned otherwise. Drinks all round!
Cheers,
thanks - looking forward to seeing their take on Dredd.
Flying cars I can give or take.Big FAT wheels on cars are what I want,Ian Gibson style and hovering H-Wagons.Would be cool to see something in the sequel but in no way is it a deal breaker.
The wide shot still of the city shows that it's in the future,good enough for me.Reminds me of what the capital city of Mad Max's world would look like if it had one with a dash of Cloud City.
Quote from: ABCwarBOT on 12 June, 2012, 12:59:15 AM
Couldn't they have got some of them to do some of the cgi on the cheap?
Fucking ridiculous idea.
Wow. John Wagner give it his approval makes me feel much happier. Great that they've been listening to him and correcting stuff. Mind you, you'd have to be a bit daft to not listen to John Wagner when making a Judge Dredd film.
As for his quibble about the vehicles not looking futuristic enough, well, that was a complaint many of us had when we saw the original rubbish cars and shitty-looking Lawmaster. Of course, that opinion was shouted down by everyone talking about fucking "perspective", "early Dredd vehicles would look like that" and "it's only early photography, they'll look geat in post-production"
Yeah.
Not everyone. Not sure how everyone can shout down many people anyway...
Some people were clutching at CGI straws and I said that it was unlikely they'd bother with dressing practical props if they were doing that.
Props obviously do look better when photographed properly, even the costume looks vastly better in some official photos than it does in others, but I never thought it likely that the vehicles would change, at best I'd hoped they might have slotted in some bigger vehicles that didn't jar with the route they'd gone.
[spoiler]The bulk of the film takes place in Peach Trees anyway, so it's pretty hard to justify spending a good portion of a small budget on a sequence that's probably going to be 10 minutes at the most[/spoiler]
Do I wish it had something more in the vehicle department? Sure. But I'm not going to let it bother me that much, as I had a pretty good idea of what is was going to look like a long time ago.
QuoteAs for his quibble about the vehicles not looking futuristic enough, well, that was a complaint many of us had when we saw the original rubbish cars and shitty-looking Lawmaster. Of course, that opinion was shouted down by everyone talking about fucking "perspective", "early Dredd vehicles would look like that" and "it's only early photography, they'll look geat in post-production"
Yeah.
It was always clear to me that the vehicles were what they were - people theorising that they were from a flashback scene etc were obviously clutching at straws. However I'm reserving judgement on the Lawmaster. The only reference we have for it is a very unflattering leaked shot - it could still look cool in the finished film. Jock said last year that from the footage he'd seen, he was actually most impressed with the lawmaster stuff so we shall see. Just a shame it was leaked the way it was.
Quote from: brendan1 on 12 June, 2012, 11:13:46 AM
Of course, that opinion was shouted down by everyone talking about fucking "perspective", "early Dredd vehicles would look like that" and "it's only early photography, they'll look geat in post-production"
Yeah.
We haven't seen the film yet.
Not really film related but Dredd related..interview with Scott Ian from Anthrax ,halfway down he mentions a Dredd t shirt that has 'recently' been done by Alex Ross,one of the greats IMO...sounds cool.Don't know if the T's already out,just thought I would share.
http://www.frontarmy.com/news/i-sold-my-soul-a-big-ass-interview-with-scott-ian-from-anthrax/#more-60983
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 June, 2012, 11:59:37 AM
Some people were clutching at CGI straws...
Because of Jock:
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Quote from: chuffsteruk on 12 February, 2012, 12:11:21 PM
Regarding the 20th century van in the chase clip-perhaps it's a stand in van,pre-fx,much like the motorcycles in this behind the scenes clip from Terminator Salvation`?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjrbYD32toM
No.
Yes
I have it on good authority that the van has not been changed, it's still the same van.
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 June, 2012, 12:50:21 PM
I have it on good authority that the van has not been changed, it's still the same van.
Makes sense in the light of the 'not expensive' tweet and Wagner's quibble.
I would say the most obvious evidence is that the 4x4s are in the offical promo still, it wouldn't make much sense if a criminal's getaway van was changed to something other than what was shot.
Quite. So what do you reckon Jock was on about?
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 June, 2012, 12:58:02 PM
I would say the most obvious evidence is that the 4x4s are in the offical promo still, it wouldn't make much sense if a criminal's getaway van was changed to something other than what was shot.
'Getaway van' sounds almost like an oxymoron given the context.Being pursued by ,if what we remotely know of a Lawmaster is followed, seems very one-sided and a tad ridiculous.We are where we are with the vehicles, given John Wagners recommendation I'm still really looking forward to it, but that scene will probably look odd to me.
As I said before, It only 2 secs untested footage! Very pointless debate about that in many pages!
Quote from: darnmarr on 12 June, 2012, 01:01:58 PM
Quite. So what do you reckon Jock was on about?
I know, but I can't say.
Quote from: Goaty on 12 June, 2012, 01:04:47 PM
As I said before, It only 2 secs untested footage! Very pointless debate about that in many pages!
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 June, 2012, 01:05:43 PM
Modern vehicles in Mega-City One is such a departure from the traditional depiction that its bound to give rise to opinions and speculation.
Quote from: darnmarr on 12 June, 2012, 01:01:58 PM
Quite. So what do you reckon Jock was on about?
I know, but I can't say.
Curiouser and curiouser... I am so stoked to see this film!
THAT should look like THIS:
Quote from: Goaty on 12 June, 2012, 01:04:47 PM
As I said before, It only 2 secs untested footage! Very pointless debate about that in many pages!
Modern vehicles in Mega-City One is such a departure from the traditional depiction that its bound to give rise to opinions and speculation.
Quote from: Steve Green on 12 June, 2012, 01:05:43 PM
Quote from: darnmarr on 12 June, 2012, 01:01:58 PM
Quite. So what do you reckon Jock was on about?
I know, but I can't say.
Curiouser and curiouser... I am so stoked to see this film!
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Quote from: DanboJohnJ on 12 June, 2012, 12:23:13 PM
Not really film related but Dredd related..interview with Scott Ian from Anthrax ,halfway down he mentions a Dredd t shirt that has 'recently' been done by Alex Ross,one of the greats IMO...sounds cool.Don't know if the T's already out,just thought I would share.
http://www.frontarmy.com/news/i-sold-my-soul-a-big-ass-interview-with-scott-ian-from-anthrax/#more-60983
Probably the St Paddy's day one, of which I own.
(http://www.backstreet-merch.com/images/products/bands/clothing/anth/bsi_anth71.gif)
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Got a feeling it's this one...
(http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af68/strontium71/alex-ross-dredd.jpg)
No, and I'm not going to play 20 questions on this. People read all sorts into every syllable that's said.
Its a shame they couldnt have used some MintyModels in this film