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Title: Locke & Key
Post by: Dandontdare on 08 February, 2020, 08:29:39 PM
I'd forgotten this was in the pipeline, but it's just landed on Netflix today - there was no thread, so I thought I'd kick one off

I'm a huge fan of the books, as I know are many of you,and I'm nervous. I know nothing about this going into it, if I saw a trailer I've forgotten it, and I'm just about to dive in, so fingers crossed...
Title: Re: Locke & Key
Post by: Dandontdare on 08 February, 2020, 08:35:05 PM
I won't be doing this throughout, but I'm 3 minutes in and .... WTF?
Title: Re: Locke & Key
Post by: IndigoPrime on 08 February, 2020, 09:28:44 PM
WTF good or WTF bad?
Title: Re: Locke & Key
Post by: Dandontdare on 08 February, 2020, 09:30:15 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 08 February, 2020, 09:28:44 PM
WTF good or WTF bad?

WTF that wasn't in the comics ... like at all
Title: Re: Locke & Key
Post by: IndigoPrime on 08 February, 2020, 09:38:13 PM
I just hope it's good. The trailer was... odd in feel. (Mind you, that seems par for the course. Resident Alien's TV version looks fun, but it looks nothing like Hogan and Parkhouse's work.)
Title: Re: Locke & Key
Post by: Colin YNWA on 09 February, 2020, 07:04:49 AM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 08 February, 2020, 09:38:13 PM
I just hope it's good. The trailer was... odd in feel. (Mind you, that seems par for the course. Resident Alien's TV version looks fun, but it looks nothing like Hogan and Parkhouse's work.)

Yeah the trailer for Resident Alien did seem to completely miss the tone of the comic. Made it seem like a goofy fish out of water number/ 3rd Rock from the Sun with less mapcap aliens. Still we'll see how it develops.

This is the problem with these things the comic can set out as one thing but to make the TV show commercial and viable it needs to become another. Still lets see how things develop and we alway the genius of the comics - in both cases - if the telly team drops the ball.
Title: Re: Locke & Key
Post by: Trout on 09 February, 2020, 02:49:40 PM
We've watched the first two parts and really enjoyed it. Kids were scared shitless. Good.
Title: Re: Locke & Key
Post by: JamesC on 09 February, 2020, 05:38:43 PM
I've watched the first 6 episodes and think it's great.
I read the comics a while ago so can't remember exactly what happens or recognise what changes have been made. I'd say they've got the mood and atmosphere absolutely spot on though.
Title: Re: Locke & Key
Post by: Dandontdare on 10 February, 2020, 04:45:27 PM
Only watched the first one so far. I'd agree the tone is right, and it looks pretty promising as a TV show, but they did whoosh through a lot of stuff very quickly - by the end of the first episode, [spoiler]Dobie's found two of the keys, Echo has been freed and gone to visit the killer kid in jail, and all three siblings are united that weird shit is going down[/spoiler] - things that were discovered slowly and subtly in the comics are rushed out with the aid of some tired TV tropes such as  [spoiler]the keys whispering  to Dobie and 'calling out' to be found[/spoiler]. They're definitely going for a "Stranger Things" vibe, just hope they don't divert too far from the source.

And I've still no clue what that opening scene was all about!
Title: Re: Locke & Key
Post by: IndigoPrime on 10 February, 2020, 05:14:56 PM
I don't really care if they diverge if the end result is good. I've already read the comics; I don't need to see that story on the screen, slavishly reworked as a copy and paste. Most translations that don't work mess up because they just feel off for some reason. Either they don't 'get' the source material, or they make a mess of it, or they replace it with something else – but something else that's objectively far worse.

(So Del Toro's Hellboy was very different from the comics, but the two movies – and especially the second one – just felt right to me. Dredd also. The Boys, for me, throws out most of the bits I hated about the comics, ramps up the good bits, and adds extras that have mostly worked well. But then there's Stallone's Dredd...)
Title: Re: Locke & Key
Post by: Tomwe on 10 February, 2020, 06:36:54 PM
Only seen E1 myself - I thought it was a great start. Been a while since I read the comics but felt it matched the tone in a positive way. Will be back for more unlike some other comic adaptations where I bail after just one (Umbrella) or struggle on until something else gets my attention (Titans)
Title: Re: Locke & Key
Post by: Funt Solo on 10 February, 2020, 07:05:46 PM
I finally got around to watching Stranger Things, so I'll be watching Locke & Key and letting you know what I think in ... oh, about three years.
Title: Re: Locke & Key
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 25 February, 2020, 05:40:29 AM
Thoroughly enjoying this series! It's taken ages to find something episodic my partner will watch with me, but she's hooked! Eight episodes in, and gripped throughout. Definitely catches the flavour of the comics. Pleasantly surprised.
Title: Re: Locke & Key
Post by: Proudhuff on 25 February, 2020, 12:25:55 PM
Ditto, never read the comics, but enjoyed this hokum. Seen all the series now and happy to catch a second one, I guessed the two twists/key turns towards the end, but that never spoiled it.

Title: Re: Locke & Key
Post by: Radbacker on 26 February, 2020, 08:01:45 AM
I don't normally binge my Netflix shows but I devoured this over 3 nights.  I've got the collected box set of the comics and really liked it, the show is just as good, they have changed a few things (some of the keys do different things and a few changed/moved about characters) but it definitely has the vibe of the comic (have I mentioned how good the comic is? Read it if you haven't) and they have changed things up enough that the series still throws a few supposes up.  I did guess pretty early the twist [/spoiler]having the face change key rather than the gender key gave it away a bit particularly if you have read the comic and were familiar with the whole Dodge thing that happens in it[/spoiler]
Waiting for next season now.  Still new Season af Altered Carbon drops this week to keep me busy

CU Radbacker
Title: Re: Locke & Key
Post by: Bolt-01 on 13 May, 2020, 10:27:54 AM
Finished the show last night (Altered Carbon 2 next for me as well) and thoroughly enjoyed.

I've read the first two trades and I've picked up the rest of the issues recently to read as well.

I clicked to one 'twist' in the finale and was utterly caught by the other. I must have missed something.

[spoiler]When was Gabe replaced by Dodge? He was in the Savini's before Dodge escaped the well, wasn't he?[/spoiler]

Also - Did anyone else recognise Tom Savini as the chap in the hardware store who gave Bodie the insight he needed into the head key? Loved that moment.
Title: Re: Locke & Key
Post by: IndigoPrime on 13 May, 2020, 10:44:43 AM
Perhaps I'm misremembering, but [spoiler]wasn't Gabe introduced as a new kid at the school? In which case, he was always Dodge[/spoiler].

Personally, I found the ending a bit hmm. It was also odd how rapidly they burned through all the major plot points from the books. So if they do another series, they'll be off on their own with this.
Title: Re: Locke & Key
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 13 May, 2020, 11:16:21 AM
Quote from: Bolt-01 on 13 May, 2020, 10:27:54 AM
Finished the show last night (Altered Carbon 2 next for me as well) and thoroughly enjoyed.

Despite the main characters all coming down with a chronic dose of the Horror Movie Stupids™ in the last couple of episodes, I really enjoyed it, too. I've seen a lot of people being quite sniffy about S2 of Altered Carbon — it's maybe a little less labyrinthine than S1, and Anthony Mackie manages to make Joel Kinnaman look like he has a vast emotional range, but we found it eminently watchable.
Title: Re: Locke & Key
Post by: Proudhuff on 13 May, 2020, 03:42:12 PM
Funny I enjoyed AC and my partner, who loved series 1, watch two episodes of series two and decided against it, not sure why, So will finish it on my ownsome.Thanks
I loved the books and totally recommend them if you like William Gibson.