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Title: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: Colin YNWA on 26 October, 2021, 06:25:07 AM
Round 1 might require you get your thrill-banks tuned up as we drag some lesser lights of Tharg's Thrillverse out - though there are some stonking series in here it has to be said. And even when there's not, most of the ties offer some intriguing conundrums at least.

Two series that features characters who first appeared in top rated thrills in the Prog and went on to their own place in the sun.

NOTE: Young Death is considered its own series and will appear in the tourney in its own right - so please don't consider it here.

Which most rattles your thrill-receptors:

Scarlet Apocrypha - more info (https://shop.2000ad.com/series/the-scarlet-apocrypha)

vs.

Judge Death - more info (https://shop.2000ad.com/series/judge-death)

Just reply in this thread naming your favourite thrill of these two series at the beginning of your post (or use Bold tags so I can spot it easily) and say what you like about these wonderful stories after that.

Match ends early on the morning of Friday 29th October and the winner gets a place in Round 2 (of 9!!!).

What on Earth is ALL of this? (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=48011.0)

For those that need 'um and can be bothered to follow 'um there's some simple rules (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=48011.msg1070150#msg1070150)

Any questions, just ask as ever - and have FUN!
Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: broodblik on 26 October, 2021, 06:34:35 AM
Judge Death
Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: Timothy on 26 October, 2021, 07:20:47 AM
Judge Death.
Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: Aaron A Aardvark on 26 October, 2021, 07:32:40 AM
Judge Death
Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 26 October, 2021, 08:01:34 AM
So for the purposes of this tourney, what exactly are we counting as 'Judge Death'? If 'Young Death' is excluded, that leaves... what, the Frazer Irving stories?
Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: broodblik on 26 October, 2021, 08:11:25 AM
I believe that Young Death storyline is part off Judge Death
Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: Colin YNWA on 26 October, 2021, 08:16:42 AM
There's the Fraser Irving story, Wilderness Years and a few one offs. There's a list on the linkie below (excluding Young Death which I'm treating like Cadet Dredd and Anderson, even Young Middenface).

Judge Death - more info (https://shop.2000ad.com/series/judge-death)

Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 26 October, 2021, 08:18:17 AM
Quote from: broodblik on 26 October, 2021, 08:11:25 AM
I believe that Young Death storyline is part of Judge Death

Quote from: Colin YNWA on 26 October, 2021, 06:25:07 AM
NOTE: Young Death is considered its own series and will appear in the tourney in its own right - so please don't consider it here.
Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: abelardsnazz on 26 October, 2021, 08:23:39 AM
Death's solo stories include the classic Tea With Mrs Gunderson so my vote is for Judge Death.
Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: broodblik on 26 October, 2021, 08:47:50 AM
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 26 October, 2021, 08:18:17 AM
Quote from: broodblik on 26 October, 2021, 08:11:25 AM
I believe that Young Death storyline is part of Judge Death

Quote from: Colin YNWA on 26 October, 2021, 06:25:07 AM
NOTE: Young Death is considered its own series and will appear in the tourney in its own right - so please don't consider it here.

Thanks, but it will still not change my vote
Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: Colin YNWA on 26 October, 2021, 08:52:28 AM
To be fair to everyone I knew they'd be controversay about some decisions has to include / exclude, or how to include some stories... thought I might get past day 2 though!
Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: The Mind of Wolfie Smith on 26 October, 2021, 10:26:06 AM
sd vs jd? wrong universe here innit.
tie.
Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 26 October, 2021, 11:23:24 AM
So it's some so-so Death one-offs - plus one excellent, character-redefining pair of series - versus a short-lived Durham Red anthology series. Huh.

I think I'm going to vote based on how much fun I had reading the originals, and on that basis The Scarlet Apocrypha takes it. Who never wanted to see John Burns or Frazer Irving's take on the Strontium Bitch? Or Durham versus Captain Constanta's fiends, come to that?
Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: sheridan on 26 October, 2021, 11:56:20 AM
Judge Death - I didn't like the set-up of The Scarlet Apocrypha - stories which by definition did not contribute to the wider Durham Red / SD universe.  Though just to be contrary, I did like the similar apocryphal stories by Neil Gaiman between Alan Moore and their own Marvelman* stories.


* I'm not gonna call it Miracleman.  I'm not gonna call it Miracleman.
Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: BPP on 26 October, 2021, 02:18:31 PM
The Scarlet Apocrypha
Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: Rogue Judge on 26 October, 2021, 04:35:22 PM
De'ath Young Death is a great story, loves the art too.
Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: Southstreeter on 26 October, 2021, 04:39:52 PM
JD
Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 26 October, 2021, 04:41:03 PM
Quote from: Rogue Judge on 26 October, 2021, 04:35:22 PM
De'ath Young Death is a great story, loves the art too.

Young Death doesn't count here, that'll be a separate vote later.
Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: Rogue Judge on 26 October, 2021, 05:40:45 PM
Quote from: Dark Jimbo on 26 October, 2021, 04:41:03 PM
Quote from: Rogue Judge on 26 October, 2021, 04:35:22 PM
De'ath Young Death is a great story, loves the art too.

Young Death doesn't count here, that'll be a separate vote later.

Ah gotcha, guess I should read the description more closely! Just Judge Death then, I've read a handful of JD one-offs and have enjoyed them.
Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: Funt Solo on 26 October, 2021, 06:38:05 PM
So, my Judge Death (https://2kstages.github.io/AtoZ/JudgeDeath/data.html) data suggests this is mostly My Name is Death plus The Wilderness Days - some Wagner and Irving goodness from the the noughties.

Countering that is some Durham Red (https://2kstages.github.io/AtoZ/DurhamRed/data.html) alternity dipping from the Dabnett droid that I'm not sure even belongs under its own banner.

My vote goes to Judge Death.
Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 27 October, 2021, 10:39:28 AM
Cheat's game!

Death
Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: Blue Cactus on 27 October, 2021, 10:43:27 AM
Judge Death.
Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: repoman on 27 October, 2021, 11:40:14 AM
Judge Death, obviously.
Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: I, Cosh on 27 October, 2021, 01:11:50 PM
Scarlet Apocrypha I've never read.

Judge Death wins by default.
Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: Link Prime on 27 October, 2021, 01:32:58 PM
The Scarlet Apocrypha was great fun, and the winner for me.
Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: Colin YNWA on 28 October, 2021, 07:16:58 AM
Just today folks, just today. I'll count up in the morning so get ya votes in today.
Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: paddykafka on 28 October, 2021, 01:28:01 PM
Judge Death

Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: O Lucky Stevie! on 28 October, 2021, 02:02:22 PM
A series of continual reimaginings versus a charismatic one-note character?

I choose Scarlet Apocrypha.
Title: Re: Forums Favourite Thrill - Scarlet Apocrypha vs Judge Death - Round 1 Heat 3
Post by: Colin YNWA on 29 October, 2021, 07:31:44 AM
VOTING CLOSED

It all pretty clear here and while the variety of votes, which so delights me, abounds its our clearest victory to date and

Judge Death

Will err, well, live again in the 2nd round. Scarlet Apocrypha might be out, but Durham Red will come back and we'll see how she does there...