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General / Re: The Son vs. Outlaw - Bolt-01 Cup - Group 3 Game 2
« on: 15 September, 2021, 09:09:48 AM »
Yeah, by all the same logic, Outlaw.

Gronk Affair for me, too.

I do love the Bad Boys but this is no contest...

Portrait of a Mutant.

I often dislike origin stories for great characters but this is one example that shows why writers want to go to that well so often.

Mayger Minor!

Kreeler Conspiracy.

General / Re: The Killing vs Top Dog - Bolt-01 Cup - Group 1 Game 1
« on: 13 September, 2021, 11:56:48 AM »
The Killing! Indeed an easy one.

Other Reviews / Re: 2000 AD Sci-Fi Special 2021
« on: 12 September, 2021, 08:22:32 PM »
I too was late to read this but I really enjoyed it. Especially the Anderson, and the idea of Chopper taunting Judges using Shakespeare quotes. How has nobody tried that before? Great fun!

General / Re: Space Spinner 2000AD
« on: 12 September, 2021, 08:17:59 PM »
Sorry, prob too late for the Spinnies! But for forms sake, my votes go to…
Arthur Ransom, John Wagner and Button Man. No contest!
Best month: March. Look, I like the Clown, alright. And I've a lot of time for SkIIzz and Finn.
Best Year: gonna say 1991, because right now I am remembering Killing Time, Revere and Dead Meat and have forgotten all the bad bits.
MVP for 1992: Rian Hughes, for those little swirls of hear above the tea cups, and for making one-off stories fun to read again.

General / Re: Outlaw vs Max Bubba - Bolt-01 Cup - Play-offs - Epic
« on: 08 September, 2021, 07:29:35 AM »
Max Bubba please.

Gronk Affair for me - Glum is good but its sophistication can't overcome the hit of nostalgia...

Other Reviews / Re: Firekind
« on: 07 September, 2021, 12:08:19 PM »
The art in Firekind really is a cut above. I hate to say it but accomplished as Paul Marshall is the stryle he's developed since has never matched these heights - Leatherjack in partiuclar pales in comparison.
His b&w stuff on Ulysses Sweet was a perfect tonal fit, and I think paired with Dylan Teague his work on Skip Tracer is as good as he's been in ages - but I do miss these gorgeous detailed paintings. I can well imagine it's not a cost effective way to make comics, mind!

General / Re: Who Are The Creators?
« on: 07 September, 2021, 08:41:09 AM »
I wonder if we're all rather glossing over the role of editor in all this?
To stick with the Dredd/Mills example, it is relevant, I think, that he actively chose which stories to commission and run in the early Progs, and who knows quite how much rewriting he did of any given panel sequence / word balloon, all of which helps add up to the Dredd we know today (a LOT, by his own reckoning..).

Getting away from Mills (as far as possible, ideally!) I fel that current editor Matt Smith must surely have had a big hand in 'creating' a vast array of thrills from the last two decades, just not on his own. Are you a creator if you merely suggest a name and basic look of a character (in which case, Bob Kane IS the creator of Batman) - or do you have to have a hand in shaping those first stories, and giving that character some sort of actual personality (in which case, Bill Finger and Jerry Robinson have a large claim ot have at the very least co-created Batman).

If a writer sends you an outline for a story, and the editor replies to say 'yes, but what if you changed the name to xx, and put them into situation y, and gave them some sort of side kick' - and the wrtier then follows all this advice - who, then, is the creator? (i.e. do John Tomlinson and Dave Bishop deserve co-creator status on Nikolai Dante, for pushing it into a sci-fi milieu, and pushing for intorductory stories, among other things?)

Annoyingly it all actually matters, because of copyright and payment norms and all sorts.

And although I've no idea how to do it legally / fairly, I think there is a case that when a new writer/artist takes on an existing character and manages to make them way more popular/interesting, they do deserve some sort of credit that isn't miles away from 'creator' - the most notorious example being Todd McFarlane and David Michelenie on Venom, I guess. But, you know, see also Gordon Rennie on Jaegir - a full cast of 'new' characters but on a technicality part of somebody else's creation (take your pick there between G F-D, Alan Grant, Steve MacManus and Dave Gibbons...)

This I one reason why I don't totally begrudge Stan Lee's status as 'creator' of all those superheroes. Sure, Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko may have had all the ideas, but have you ever read any of the comics they scripted as well as drew? Barmy as heck, and in places entertaining - but they're not a patch on the sheer exuberance and enjoyment of the comics they wrote/drew that Lee scripted. He's a damn good writer, and I submit that those creations all flourished as much because of his contributions as because they were inherently great ideas from the artists.

In my estimation,
Slavers of Drule > Big Bust of '49 > Moses Incident

Trying to sort through a bit of thread confusion I think that means my vote here goes to:
Big Bust of '49

Glum Affair

Gronk Affair

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