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Title: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 November, 2011, 12:48:47 AM
Caveat: Don't get too excited.








DREDD 3D CAMERA RIG:

(http://www.lonewolf-grips.net/southafrica/wp-content/gallery/dredd/lonewolf-grips-dredd%20(3).jpg)


(http://www.lonewolf-grips.net/southafrica/wp-content/gallery/dredd/lonewolf-grips-dredd%20(5).jpg)


(http://www.lonewolf-grips.net/southafrica/wp-content/gallery/dredd/lonewolf-grips-dredd%20(8).jpg)

(http://www.lonewolf-grips.net/southafrica/wp-content/gallery/dredd/lonewolf-grips-dredd%20(10).jpg)


(http://www.lonewolf-grips.net/southafrica/wp-content/gallery/dredd/lonewolf-grips-dredd%20(4).jpg)


(http://www.lonewolf-grips.net/southafrica/wp-content/gallery/dredd/lonewolf-grips-dredd%20(2).jpg)





http://www.lonewolf-grips.net/southafrica/set-photos/



Some camera rig footage (mere seconds) from the Dredd set.



http://www.lonewolf-grips.net/southafrica/dredd-3d-camera-rig-videos/



Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: Pioneer on 24 November, 2011, 12:53:33 AM
Still did.

Still am.
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 24 November, 2011, 12:59:12 AM
Very interesting  :o
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 24 November, 2011, 01:02:09 AM
Could they be any more bland?No awards to the photographer.
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 November, 2011, 01:06:39 AM
Quote from: The Sherman Kid on 24 November, 2011, 01:02:09 AM
Could they be any more bland?No awards to the photographer.

Eh...it's a site advertising camera rigs for-hire not a website for marketing Dredd. They wouldn't be allowed show much anyway but that isn't the point.
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 24 November, 2011, 01:11:23 AM
If that is the block in question then it's very interesting, as I was expecting internal corridors!
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: blackmocco on 24 November, 2011, 01:16:42 AM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 24 November, 2011, 01:11:23 AM
If that is the block in question then it's very interesting, as I was expecting internal corridors!

Lots of greenscreen too. Nice! Guess we'll be seeing some good exterior shots of Mega City 1 then...
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 November, 2011, 01:18:48 AM
It's likely that it is part of the exterior rather than an interior and the set build-placement of opposite sides of the set don't correspond to the actual screen geography -the wall edges don't join in the video and only one side is seen by the back-tracking camera- plus there seems to be a lot of weathering too.
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 November, 2011, 01:53:24 AM
Also contains the first piece of actual Judge-in-motion footage we've seen in some Lawgiver-firing-defenestration-action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp9JCMFfgA8&feature=channel_video_title


(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff248/burlearth/JDSET.jpg)


^Top-left-hand corner^...coo-ee...





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp9JCMFfgA8&feature=channel_video_title
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: CraveNoir on 24 November, 2011, 07:36:06 AM
Great find.
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: TordelBack on 24 November, 2011, 07:59:58 AM
Nice find Joe!  Great to see some judgin' at last, and that's some complex rigging...

The stage sets look really good, but I confess a dislike of contemporary building locations in SF films.  I'm constantly reminded of the LA business/technology campuses that the Star Trek and Stargate crews rambled unconvincingly around for years.  Or in our own neck of the woods the front of the Woodquay offices that appeared unadorned in Space Truckers.  Warehouses, cabling tunnels and grungey alleys are one thing, full-on public architecture is another.  Fingers crossed for some digital trickery.
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: Goaty on 24 November, 2011, 08:31:18 AM

Cheers Joe Soap for the link and images, that looks good!
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: Michaelvk on 24 November, 2011, 10:16:54 AM
Ah, memories.. I was on or visited two of those sets.

Interesting note.. Usually this sort of stuff doesn't get released prior to the movie's release, as you know.. Thing is, here in SA people are sort of 'meh, whatever..' when it comes to the secrecy stuff. Which is probably why I got the chop. We're not used to huge-ish productions. Normally whatever we do is service industry for straight to-dvd or tv stuff that nobody really cares about, and pics are plastered on resumes as before the last foreign producer can even buckle his airplane seatbelt.
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: dweezil2 on 24 November, 2011, 12:44:17 PM
Very interesting!

That block set looks most impressive. Cheers for the post!
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: Adrian Bamforth on 24 November, 2011, 01:50:30 PM
the guy in image 4 looks like he's holding a custard pie.
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: Michaelvk on 24 November, 2011, 01:52:42 PM
Quote from: Adrian Bamforth on 24 November, 2011, 01:50:30 PM
the guy in image 4 looks like he's holding a custard pie.

Lemon meringue, IIRC..
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 24 November, 2011, 02:03:53 PM
Love the grungy look of the Walkways. Very convincing Set they've built there. Mega City lives.
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: DrRocka on 24 November, 2011, 05:46:05 PM
It's all REAL! Yippee!
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: dracula1 on 24 November, 2011, 05:49:54 PM
Grud on a greenie Stallone and Moby appear in picture number 4.  Looks like Sly is directing and Moby is doing the sound track :-)
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: Dash Decent on 25 November, 2011, 01:10:44 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 24 November, 2011, 01:11:23 AM
If that is the block in question then it's very interesting, as I was expecting internal corridors!

This'll be the exterior shoot for the flying Lawmasters.
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 November, 2011, 02:01:01 AM
Some more tech info:


QuoteBerlin's The Post Republic and Prime Focus London are post producing DNA Films' Judge Dredd reboot, Dredd. The 3D action film is being lensed by DP Anthony Dodd Mantle on three rigs of Red MX pairs supplied by Paradise FX Europe, which has a number of other 3D projects on its books.

The Reds were complemented by SI2Ks on a steadicam rig, both recording to 1 Beyond systems.

The biggest challenge on the project, according to The Post Republic managing director Michael Reuter, was turning around the amount of data which was acquired in different formats.

The Post Republic supplied a Digi Lab on location in Cape Town SA, based around Iridas Speed Grade and including a 1TB server to store hi-speed Phantom data at 2000fps for dailies.

The facility is compiling all picture post and will grade the piece after completion of 800 VFX shots created by Prime Focus London.



So there's 800 FX shots of varying degrees, still a fair amount.
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: JOE SOAP on 27 November, 2011, 02:01:47 AM
Link:

http://www.tvbeurope.com/newsletter-3dmasters-content/full/paradise-fx-supports-dredd-and-streetdance-2
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: MR. ELIMINATOR on 28 November, 2011, 03:38:14 AM
I hope Dredd gets some revealing done soon. There's not even a teaser poster yet!
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 28 November, 2011, 08:57:00 PM
The number of FX shots- 800 , is very encouraging.Sunshine another DNA production and a great film (well the first half at least anyway) had just under with 750 shots ,and this film was of course in space where lots of shots were going to be needed.So it looks like, in my opinion,  they are going to a lot of trouble to give us an epic,  futuristic feel and hopefully with it, an authentic mega-city one.Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 November, 2011, 09:43:35 PM
It has the same budget as Sunshine, circa $40 million which it unfortunately didn't make back at the box-office.
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: dweezil2 on 28 November, 2011, 10:47:05 PM
Quote from: MR. ELIMINATOR on 28 November, 2011, 03:38:14 AM
I hope Dredd gets some revealing done soon. There's not even a teaser poster yet!

I wouldn't be too worried about that.

Another very anticipated film, Prometheous, hasn't a poster or trailer yet and that's out in June.
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: JOE SOAP on 28 November, 2011, 10:49:02 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 28 November, 2011, 10:47:05 PM
Another very anticipated film, Prometheous, hasn't a poster or trailer yet and that's out in June.


Wher've you been:


http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=prometheus+trailer&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: radiator on 29 November, 2011, 02:50:48 AM
QuoteThe number of FX shots- 800 , is very encouraging.Sunshine another DNA production and a great film (well the first half at least anyway) had just under with 750 shots ,and this film was of course in space where lots of shots were going to be needed.So it looks like, in my opinion,  they are going to a lot of trouble to give us an epic,  futuristic feel and hopefully with it, an authentic mega-city one.Fingers crossed.

The word so far is that it's a rather more contemporary take on Dredd - no flying cars or robots - perhaps this is all being added in in post, but even so, overtly sci-fi/futuristic stuff like that doesn't seem to suit the tone of what we've seen so far.

I'm guessing that a lot of the fx shots will be quite subtle, non-fantastical stuff - for instance, I'm wondering if the 800 shots will include stuff like digitally adding Dredd's trademark 'lightning bolt' visor reflections - something like what they did Rorschach's mask in Watchmen?
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: Beaky Smoochies on 29 November, 2011, 05:24:50 AM
Alex Garland has stated in the official Dredd press release last year they're determined to recreate "all the scale and spectacle" of Mega-City One onscreen, which leads me to think a pretty healthy number of the 800 fx shots will be in showing a pretty dense and detailed Big Meg, which is gonna look pretty amazing, I just know it.  The rest of the fx shots will probably be exteriors and interiors of the Peach Trees residential block,[spoiler] the Slo-Mo drug POV shots[/spoiler], explosions, [spoiler]the opening shot of the boundary wall going over to reveal Mega-City One[/spoiler], and no doubt a great deal of little and less overt shots like reflections, wire removals, set extensions, interior/exterior alterations, etc.  It's amazing how quickly the number of fx shots pile up in short order, just one question for Joe Soap and/or Michael vk (whoever wants to answer this), does the entire finished shot count as one fx shot no matter how much different fx work is on it, or does each individual fx component and rendering count as an fx shot in itself, meaning if a finished shot has four or five separate fx elements in it, that counts as four or five fx shots, or does it count as a single finished fx shot unto itself...?
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: dweezil2 on 29 November, 2011, 11:36:34 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 28 November, 2011, 10:49:02 PM
Quote from: dweezil2 on 28 November, 2011, 10:47:05 PM
Another very anticipated film, Prometheous, hasn't a poster or trailer yet and that's out in June.


Wher've you been:


http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=prometheus+trailer&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8


I posted that leaked trailer on the movie thread. What I meant was an official released trailer for Dredd.
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 November, 2011, 11:49:31 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 29 November, 2011, 05:24:50 AM
does the entire finished shot count as one fx shot no matter how much different fx work is on it, or does each individual fx component and rendering count as an fx shot in itself, meaning if a finished shot has four or five separate fx elements in it, that counts as four or five fx shots, or does it count as a single finished fx shot unto itself...?


One shot = one shot no matter how many layers are added to that shot.
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 November, 2011, 11:54:57 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 29 November, 2011, 05:24:50 AM
Alex Garland has stated in the official Dredd press release last year they're determined to recreate "all the scale and spectacle" of Mega-City One onscreen, which leads me to think a pretty healthy number of the 800 fx shots will be in showing a pretty dense and detailed Big Meg, which is gonna look pretty amazing, I just know it. 


It's the tone of the aesthetic intention that is in question; how 'futurist' the visual intention is. I doubt it will be as showy as the comic but it will be an impressive and detailed sprawl, presumably, which is fine with me.
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: Michaelvk on 29 November, 2011, 12:40:43 PM
Well, from some of the stuff I've seen from Jock, it's very similar to the newer interpretations of MC1.. Canary Wharf on a blend of meth and steroids.
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: JOE SOAP on 29 November, 2011, 12:49:58 PM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 29 November, 2011, 12:40:43 PM
Well, from some of the stuff I've seen from Jock, it's very similar to the newer interpretations of MC1.. Canary Wharf on a blend of meth and steroids.


Is that the early pre-vis stuff Jock did before he was on the film -pictured below- or material he produced after he officially joined production?



(http://liveforfilms.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/dredd.jpg)
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: dweezil2 on 29 November, 2011, 12:54:47 PM
With Anthony Dod Mantle as director of photography, I'm convinced the film will look gorgeous.


Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: Michaelvk on 29 November, 2011, 09:14:28 PM
Official stuff.. Looks awesome.
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 30 November, 2011, 11:30:33 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 29 November, 2011, 12:40:43 PM
Well, from some of the stuff I've seen from Jock, it's very similar to the newer interpretations of MC1.. Canary Wharf on a blend of meth and steroids.

I hope he hasn't included  >gasp< the Millennium Dome!  Most expensive tent ever built.
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: Mudcrab on 30 November, 2011, 01:01:20 PM
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 30 November, 2011, 11:30:33 AM
Quote from: Michaelvk on 29 November, 2011, 12:40:43 PM
Well, from some of the stuff I've seen from Jock, it's very similar to the newer interpretations of MC1.. Canary Wharf on a blend of meth and steroids.

I hope he hasn't included  >gasp< the Millennium Dome!  Most expensive tent ever built.

He he, it could be the Aggro-Dome  :D
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: Teivion on 30 November, 2011, 01:59:02 PM
http://www.thecinematographer.info/articles/124-127-hours-the-eagle-dredd-3d-anthony-dod-mantle-dff-bsc.html

More techy camera stuff...
Quick interview with Anthony Dodd Mantle, Cinematographer on Dredd. Little snippet on the set up, camera rigs etc, and nice to see him compare Dredd to 'BladeRunner and Clockwork Orange'
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: Hoagy on 30 November, 2011, 02:19:45 PM
Quoteunderneath there's a no less entertaining allegorical comment about this kind of cinema and the violence that tends to come with this kind of product

Anyone want to expand on how this is already a subtext within the comics? Or how it may play within the film?
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: Fuzzed on 30 November, 2011, 03:23:13 PM
From the link above, the Dredd bit -

Q: What can you tell us about Dredd?

ADM: Kevin's brother, producer Andrew MacDonald, approached me a while ago. It's written by Alex Garland, a very astute, creative writer, who I've known since 28 Days Later. It was shot in South Africa on 3D – around 13 weeks principal, and seven weeks 2nd unit photography. It's a dangerous film, in the sense that the story places itself precariously on the floorboards of an action sci-fi genre film whilst underneath there's a no less entertaining allegorical comment about this kind of cinema and the violence that tends to come with this kind of product. Visually we have gone at it hammer and tongues. We shot entirely digitally, in scope, using RED MX cameras and SI2Ks, Phantom Flex highspeed, and multiple rigs shooting at the same time on first and second unit. I built some new cameras rigs that can take you very close to the action. It's won't look so much like the action films we're accustomed to, and the audience won't have things thrust in their faces every five minutes. I hope it will be more painterly. If we get it right, it will be a cross between Blade Runner and Clockwork Orange.


Don't have a clue on the allegorical - too deep for me - but I love his use of the words 'dangerous' and 'hammer and tongues' - although isn't that supposed to be tongs? - but still, tongues work too *g* - ... what was I saying? Seriously, in one paragraph that's very techy and vague-ish elsewise, he's still managed to reassure me and get me even more hyped up.

Thank you, Dod.
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: dracula1 on 30 November, 2011, 07:09:48 PM
Now that's a huge comparison to two of the greatest films ever made. If 'Dredd' can achieve even an iota of the kind of quality of these films l'd be extremely happy.
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: M.I.K. on 30 November, 2011, 08:44:14 PM
A version of that interview has been linked to on here before. I can remember questioning the "hammer and tongues" quote the first time around.
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 December, 2011, 03:58:28 AM
Storyboard sample for Lawmaster chase scene:


(http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/6915/newsc23.jpg)
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: Psidude on 30 December, 2011, 06:59:04 AM
Cheers joe I think you need paying for doing most of the PR for the film
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: The Sherman Kid on 30 December, 2011, 12:36:27 PM
Quote from: Psidude on 30 December, 2011, 06:59:04 AM
Cheers joe I think you need paying for doing most of the PR for the film
:lol: :lol: :lol:

The way things are going Joe will soon be able to say "PR?",     "I AM THE PR!"
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 30 December, 2011, 12:53:22 PM
Where did you get this from JOE SOAP?  :o  It's from a Film on near total lock down. Not even Michealvk  had something like this even if it is a sample! 

Almost a reverse pan over the top then back around to see them heading towards Peaches Block. You can run it in your head. I take it the second rider is Judge Anderson  since it mentions 'them' in the blurb.

We want more! But this is probably all we're getting so Forum salute to JOE SOAP for providing us with this nugget of info. Let's hope the Film makers don't issue any more CandC orders from the Fuehrer bunker.
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: malkymac on 30 December, 2011, 02:44:38 PM
Bah! I can't see the imagefrom Jose Soap here in the middle east. Just a picture of a frog in an icecube saying I have to register at some domain. What am I missing?
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 30 December, 2011, 03:22:23 PM
Neatly drawn 7 panel Greyscale Storyboard sample of DREDD Film. Don't know if it's official or something Produced for the Film by an Artist that was later discarded.

Looks like Judge Dredd and Judge Anderson though only DREDD is named racing along a flyover towards Peaches Tower. Only one page mind so don't feel too bad Malkymac.
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: Zarjazzer on 30 December, 2011, 04:25:57 PM
Couldn't view it. At work but looks fine on me phone.
Title: Re: SCENES FROM THE DREDD SET
Post by: JOE SOAP on 30 December, 2011, 08:25:49 PM
It's important to remember the events in the film exteriors/interiors [spoiler]take place at night.[/spoiler]