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: Prog 2256 - Total Excitement Overload.
: Magnetica 30 October, 2021, 04:01:46 PM
This the first time I’ve done a Prog review in a few months and it’s another Regened this week.

Queue the usual moaning elsewhere on ‘tinters.

Personally I think they work and if results in a few collected edition sales, what’s not to like.

Cadet Dredd isn’t the best we’ve seen but there is some nice art by one of my personal favourites, Ben Willsher.

There are two news stories Scooter and Jinx and Enemy Earth. Neither is that exciting, both suffering from being too heavily focused on setting up there worlds. Scooter and Jinx is another James Peaty story set on a space station….hmmm.

The Time Twister is kinda fun, if a little light.

Strontium Dug was fun.

Anyway, having read it I’m now going to hand it over to my son. Which is actually the point.
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: broodblik 30 October, 2021, 04:17:10 PM
Cover by Ben Willsher:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCxrxsNWYAgixOU?format=jpg&name=large)
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: broodblik 30 October, 2021, 04:17:28 PM
Cover and Logo:

(https://dyn.media.forbiddenplanet.com/bhUBntpwXwyXIxo8nIg5ycoEDMk=/trim/fit-in/772x1024/filters:format(webp)/https://media.forbiddenplanet.com/products/76/2b/ae9a995e8f818c59034416fa0e681e937347.jpeg)
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: judgeurko 30 October, 2021, 08:05:50 PM
Another random kids issue?
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: Leigh S 30 October, 2021, 09:40:51 PM
If they are random, it's crazy how they are the biggest sellers every time they ransomly hit the shelves
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: Pete Wells 31 October, 2021, 01:03:21 AM
I bloody LOVED that Dredd, though the Fast and the Furious blokes were a bit on the nose. Ben Willsher has always been amazing at Lawmaster-based Dredds!

There were some coll little cameos in the strip too!
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: Funt Solo 31 October, 2021, 01:58:16 AM
Shouldn’t Regened be a separate publication, though?
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: broodblik 31 October, 2021, 08:42:31 AM
Another random kids issue?
No I think they number it #2256
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: Tjm86 01 November, 2021, 01:50:03 PM
Notwithstanding the usual debates (let's just go with ... it's done, it's over with ... move on for now ...), this one does come across as a stronger one.  For the lineup we have:
Cadet Dredd - Johnson, Willsher, Parkhouse
Scooter and Jinx - Peaty, Roberts, Boswell, Bowland
Enemy Earth - Scott, Horsman, Charles, Campbell
Time Twisters: Temporal Tantrum - Harvey, Newell, Caldwell, Parkhouse
Strontium Dug - Bailie, Macneil, Blythe, Bowland

Arguably a strong lineup of new tales so the question is how do they fare?

Dredd - considering some of the variable tales we've had of late, this does appear to be one of the stronger ones.  Going for a straightforward action tale that is definitely right up Willsher's alley on the art front.  Chase a couple of perps across the city.  Small continuity quibble but IIRC the City Wall wasn't built until Cal's day.  Begs the question of why a gate ... An old school Dredd tale to be sure though.

Scooter and Jinx - a cheerful little opener / trial.  Bit by the numbers though.  Cheeky / lovable rogue character?  Check.  Slightly mysterious / talented character?  Check.  Attempt to con way out of trouble?  Check.  Start of new partnership?  Check.  Does feel a little like an awful lot of this has been tried before.  Some nice ideas but does need to find its own voice if it is going to stand the test of time.  Honestly though this does feel a little like a one-and-done.

Enemy Earth - the Bunker.  Well, considering the rather disappointing take on this topic in the recent 2000ad special, this one does quite a good job of turning out an environmental disaster / Earth is against us tale.  Quite a brutal take in fact but this one does appear to have more mileage.  Stronger artwork and a well paced narrative help to lay the foundations for what is probably one of the stronger contenders for a return as an extended series a la Department-K.

Time Twisters - definitely an old school effort, and I mean that as a compliment.  Plenty of familiar elements and an ending that could well be predicted by the end of the first page for those familiar with the structure of TT's.  For newer readers ... maybe a nice wry little ending?  Shades of Davison in the art? 

Strontium Dug - well, nothing else to be said about the art on this than ... Colin Macneil.  As for the tale, well this is probably more of the kind of thing we're used to from Stront.  It's a reminder of the potential of the world itself that raises questions about how previous attempts to widen the world have been so hit and miss.  Well paced, plenty of visual / verbal gags and a touch of toilet-humour that will no doubt go down well in some quarters.  Be interesting to see if lightning can strike twice and possibly better as a series of one-offs rather than an ongoing series?  Certainly if Macneil is enticed back this would be well worth another shot.

All round then this is another strong Regened.  The only real 'miss', if you could call it that, is Scooter and Jinx but more because it shares so many elements with strips we've seen before in the RP.  The other two new strips have far more potential if we're being honest.  Our returners (well, TT / FS ... very similar beasts, no?) are much stronger versions than we have seen.

Could be that we are edging ever closer to that magical point when the RP can be spun off to stand on its own feet?  Certainly this one gives more confidence to that idea.
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: Colin YNWA 01 November, 2021, 08:58:55 PM
Not the best Regened for me, but not bad.

Dredd was a fun action piece, enjoyably straigthforward. 

Scooter and Jinx just tried to do too much in the pages it had and ended up doing very little. Didn't feel I knew anything about the characters particularly and alas James Peaty did one of his terrible action movie lines

'Head Down'
'For What?'
'A full house...'

and then they smash through a window... errr

Still decent art and if it all just calmed down a little we might have something that could work?

I really enjoyed Enemy Earth. Yes it set up an odd couple 'buddy movie' just like Scooter and Jinx but did so in a far more interesting and frankly brutal way. The world is hard and terrifying world and Zoe, or led, has had it hard. She feels she's let all those around her down so when she discovers...??? at the end she has a chance of redemption? Tell you want I'd love to find out. Great stuff.

Decent Time Twister, if fact a very good one, just let down with an all too simple ending. Still worked up to then.

Strontium Dug was fun with glorious art so pretty good.

Yeah not bad - not great but not bad and Enemy Earth was a real highlight and the art was lovely throughout.
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: IndigoPrime 02 November, 2021, 09:58:24 AM
Right, then. 2000 AD has, for me, been on a dizzy high for weeks now, and so it was unlikely Regened would keep that going. (I like Regened, but the recent Progs have been so great.) That said, there was a lot to enjoy.

A Willsher cover is always a good thing and his internal art for Cadet Dredd was pretty great. I’m still not taken by the strip as a whole, and it lacks the fizz and excitement of, say, Mega Robo Bros. in The Phoenix Still, one of the better episodes in the run.

Scooter & Jinx was an odd one. There are lots of solid ingredients there, with a good few intro pages, but there was some baffling dialogue (the aforementioned “full house” line in particular) and the whiff of sexism from the cat. Also, is it me or did Peaty remove the most interesting thing from Scooter (her powers) on the last page?

Enemy Earth was much better. Action. Nastiness. Well-defined characters. An interesting take on a sci-fi trope. Make it black and white and add in a bit of extra gore and this could pass for old-school 2000 AD. As it is, it feels like old-school 2000 AD modernised. I’d like to see this jump to the Prog proper for a six-week run.

The Time Twister was topical, smart and tightly written and illustrated. Yes, the ending isn’t anything new, but it was deftly handled and a lot of fun.

Which leaves Strontium Dug. I question the existence of the strip in a comic where the readers won’t have the backstory knowledge, although the intro page synopsis does a solid job in bringing readers up to speed. The tale itself, though, was loads of fun. It feels very one-and-done, but I’m glad it was done.

Enemy Earth > Strontium Dug > Time Twister > Cadet Dredd > Scooter & Jinx // 3.5/5 in the good column this week for me.
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: Tjm86 02 November, 2021, 11:51:26 AM
Enemy Earth ... Make it black and white and add in a bit of extra gore and this could pass for old-school 2000 AD. As it is, it feels like old-school 2000 AD modernised.

Now this might sound a little daft (albeit not completely bonkers) but this actually put me in mind of a couple of the strips from the 80's Eagle.  Survival and Walk or Die spring to mind.  I need to dig out my old issues and have a quick check but IIRC Wagner and Grant may well have had a hand in them.
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: broodblik 03 November, 2021, 03:20:39 AM
Not the best prog but efficient enough. I will give it a 3/5. The two new strips is fine but did not really work for me but then again this is what I am enjoying about the regen progs: it gives certain stories which we would never have seen an opportunity. So far no one mentioned in the Nerve Centre Joko mentioned that we will receive another quartet of regens next year (so please remember to get your heart pill subscriber early)

Cadet Dredd – I enjoyed this one with some good art by Ben Willsher. This was a more straight-forward action heavy story and no heavy reading required here.

Scooter & Jinx – Overall not too bad first episode but not sure that this will work in the normal prog.

Enemy Earth – This was an ok story, and I did really like the premises. Another end-of-the-world story apocalypse with a different “living dead” enemy. Again, not sure this will work in the prog.

Time Twister – Although by the end of the story I already predicted what is going to happen, but it was well told, and it worked for me.

Strontium Dug – The best thing in the prog and it is good to see that Colin MacNeil’s talents are used in the regen. What is nice it is done and dusted story.
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: Barrington Boots 03 November, 2021, 12:27:33 PM
I thought this was one of the weaker Regened progs. Best thing in here imo was Enemy Earth. Definitely felt like an older-school concept thrill and I'd be interested how this slightly bleaker tale goes over with younger readers.
Really cool art on Dredd and Strontium Dug but not the best, storywise. With the latter I'd also be interested in how this went over with younger readers, as I would guess the SD continuity plus the idialect writing would be a barrier to them.
Didn't see anything in Scooter and Jinx at all, sadly.
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: Richard 03 November, 2021, 04:41:29 PM
I agree that Enemy Earth was best. Good fun.

I enjoyed Strontium Dug, but new readers might be confused by the text, since nowhere is it ever explained that the characters are Scottish.

The Time Twister was just right for a Regened prog.

It still irritates me that Rico Dredd is addressed as if Rico was his surname and his badge says Rico. Like, some of the children reading this have siblings, they know how first names and surnames work.
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: The Corinthian 03 November, 2021, 07:27:25 PM
Strontium Dug is the first time I've felt that a Regened take on a standard Tooth character has captured the tone of the original.

Though I question if any of The Young People will get the Yootha Joyce and Brian Murphy cameos.
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: Beaker 03 November, 2021, 08:41:39 PM
No sign of my copy yet. :o(
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: Funt Solo 03 November, 2021, 09:09:29 PM
I keep scanning the title of this thread as Total Excrement Overload.

That is all.
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: The Corinthian 04 November, 2021, 07:24:42 AM
What's with the use of "excitement" instead of "thrill" anyway?
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: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) 04 November, 2021, 02:54:13 PM
I am feeling particularly grumpy at the moment, due to viral overload (thankfully not the one that apparently doesn't exist, according to several disappointing Facebook friends) and so was all prepared to pour scorn, disdain and woe upon this week's Regened.

Surprise! I really liked it.

Look, I'm not a big fan of the chosen art styles (barring Mr Colin, who can do no wrong, and Mr Willsher- whose more, er, is 'simplistic' the word? The style he uses here and when drawing Roy Race, anyway- as opposed to his usual prog Dredd work- which works stupendously for me) but on the whole this Regened was one of my favourites. Especially Enemy Earth and Scooter & Jinx; both of which were strong enough even with art I actively disliked, to be welcome back anytime. I found Scooter & Jinx strangely touching and complex actually- adult in a way I didn't expect, but in the sense of being 'emotionally developed' rather than 'crude'.

So yes, good stuff. Every time I look at Regeneds though, I'm reminded of my parents' reactions to Carlos Ezquerra, Mick McMahon and Ian Gibson back in the late seventies: that they were rubbish in comparison to the comics of their youth. C'est la guerre.

SBT
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: Bad City Blue 04 November, 2021, 04:20:26 PM
Not bad at all.

Dredd was a good, solid entry.

Scooter and Jinx was utter shite, someone trying to appeal to kids waaaaay too hard. What? It's from the guy who writes Shit Tracer? Fair enough... STill waana know how he's blackmailing Tharg.

Enemy Earth was pretty good, I imagine a second part has already been approved.

Time Twister was spot on, a fun tale with a neat twist.

Strontium Dug will confuse MANY with the language, but as an old fan I enjoyed it although some of the plotting was, I felt, quite weak. No problem seeing Dug again, though.
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: Southstreeter 04 November, 2021, 06:18:20 PM
No sign of my copy yet. :o(

Me neither. Glad it’s not a regular prog, so it won’t matter when I get next week’s first!
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: I, Cosh 04 November, 2021, 10:33:29 PM
Thought Strontium Dug was laugh out loud funny and probably the best Regened strip to date. Two important aspects of that: it can only ever be a one-off rather than a pilot for a series and Colin MacNeil. Not sure how it'll work for the Non-Scot bairns but I don't really care either. Impenetrable Scottish accents have been part of 2000AD since I was a lad.

Enemy Earth was yet another pilot but I felt it worked better than many others because it had some actual nastiness. Not quite Please Kill Me Before the Giant Scorpions but a good old-fashioned eaten little brother. Good stuff.

The most interesting thing about Scooter & Jinx is that it finally proves beyond reasonable doubt that Skip Tracer is named after a Sonic Youth song and the occupation came later. And one of them is a Bone Machine (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKHsSz1dAac). Looking forward to seeing what relatively obscure musical references our man comes up with next.

Not convinced by the Time Twister. Pleasant enough but it seems like every Future Shock in Regened has centred around the idea of social media. Not sure the kids give as much of a shit (or would be as shocked by the idea of it being bad) as teh knicker-twisting adults writing this stuff.

Dredd was fairly nothingy but actually highlights my own reservation about the Regened Progs. Wouldn't it be better to try and get material from the best  creators into these issues? I'm not sure many people are running to their local Thrill merchant for 12 pages of Liam Johnson's Dredd. Of the current top flight writers I think only Rennie has had a strip in this year. Of course new talent is always welcome but how do you attract readers without a core of strong material?
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: Colin YNWA 05 November, 2021, 06:31:15 AM
The most interesting thing about Scooter & Jinx is that it finally proves beyond reasonable doubt that Skip Tracer is named after a Sonic Youth song and the occupation came later. And one of them is a Bone Machine (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKHsSz1dAac). Looking forward to seeing what relatively obscure musical references our man comes up with next.

Or they could be a  Bone Machine (https://youtu.be/Ao8TUb23pUg)
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: norton canes 05 November, 2021, 10:57:57 AM
So, here we go again, time for me to get my curmudgeonly, 53-year-old head around the sort of stories the kids are... digging? Down with? Whateva!

A nice fast (and furiously) paced Dredd to kick off, a good opportunity for the Willsher droid to display his action drawing skills. Not sure the resolution would convince even a child though - there's no way two bikes would have enough traction... oh never mind. It appears to be a familty of Myrkas eating at Mondos in Scooter and Jinx, and that's about the most intersting thing in the strip. Enemy Earth much better, loving the mutant rats, good twist, this one's clearly got full-run potential (though surely not in the regular prog?). Really liked the Time Twister too, some of the expressions Tom Newell gave the protaginsts were fantastic. Really not sure what to make of Strontium Dug - I think possibly the worst thing a Regened strip can do is try to cater for the tastes of kids and seasoned 2000 AD veterans, and this was sitting on the fence with a foot in both camps, if I can multi-metaphor.

That cover for next prog, though. Worth £4.99 just for the sneak preview. 

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: norton canes 05 November, 2021, 12:08:28 PM
I tell you what though, good as that Dredd story is, wouldn't it have been even better if some innocent cits had been caught in the cannon fire and splattered across the sked? I mean, wouldn't it?
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: The Corinthian 06 November, 2021, 10:41:58 AM
I tell you what though, good as that Dredd story is, wouldn't it have been even better if some innocent cits had been caught in the cannon fire and splattered across the sked?

Not for the innocent cits.
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: Sean SD 07 November, 2021, 06:19:42 AM
My Top 3 for Prog 2256 Regened

1st - Strontium Dug - My pick from this Regened issue. Great to see MacNeil in action in a fun tale from the SD universe. The Scottish accent stuff is a wee bit tricky tae understan at times though  ;)

2nd - Scooter & Jinx - I enjoyed this one but would like Scooter to keep her powers in future eps should the story continue.

3rd -  Cadet Dredd - CD is always a bit forced imho but this one was fine maybe because it was action aplenty on Lawmasters

Not the strongest Regened overall but hopefully Tharg will bring back Finder and Keeper in future issues
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: M.I.K. 07 November, 2021, 05:58:58 PM
I'm pretty sure it's only Scooter's healing ability that doesn't work anymore.
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: Sean SD 09 November, 2021, 11:39:58 AM
I'm pretty sure it's only Scooter's healing ability that doesn't work anymore.

Yep good point  :thumbsup:
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: norton canes 11 November, 2021, 09:55:24 AM
Daddy! Daddy! Why does that man on the last page have a big star carved into his chest..?
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: Tiplodocus 27 November, 2021, 10:09:34 AM
Actually enjoyed most of that.

It's not my kind of top drawer Tooth but you know what?  Sometimes even the normal prog isn't MY kind of Tooth.

ENEMY EARTH in particular stood out and the overall theme actually ties with the protagonists being younger. It's my kids and grandkids that will need to deal with the climate mess we've created.

DREDD had some good action stuff in it and we've had dozens of similar perfectly serviceable celeb parody tales in the normal prog. Grittier art and more violence did not make them better.

SCOOTER AND JINX has sooo many familiar elements and only one thing going for it - that are protagonists are "in lurve". Though goodness knows why after their cheesy introduction... Possibly the worst meetcute I have ever seen. I would not welcome this back unless it really works around the couple (as opposed to buddies) aspect.

Loved STRONTY DUG too though I'll admit I did get confused when gravity was in action or not at some points.