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Title: Prog 2289: Shotgun Diplomacy
Post by: The Monarch on 04 July, 2022, 07:56:12 AM
Saturday prog holy crud i wish i got this written sooner but i was not informed i had said prog until this morning

brink and skip continue and hope ends on a cliffhanger.

New dredd story which deals with the fallout between the meg and brit cit after that athlantis tunnel incident last year.

and this kinda surpised me but tharg says in the nerve centre that the section of bulletopia which starts in this prog is the penultimate part and well i guess we'll see in the coming weeks but it doesn't feel like a penultimate part at the moment

Title: Re: Prog 2289: Shotgun Diplomacy
Post by: broodblik on 04 July, 2022, 08:01:43 AM
Bulletopia has been running for almost two years now (started in prog 2184) and hopefully we can get an extended run into its conclusion (or reset/reboot to start all over again).
Title: Re: Prog 2289: Shotgun Diplomacy
Post by: Proudhuff on 04 July, 2022, 02:44:45 PM
Surprise Saturday Prog for me, a first in Cal-Hab from a long time.

Dredd off to a good start, Brink on the brink of major breakthrough, skipped Skip its increasingly looking like something from those endless shelves of manga in FP to me. Six/Dex in the here we go again loop.
Title: Re: Prog 2289: Shotgun Diplomacy
Post by: The Monarch on 04 July, 2022, 04:24:46 PM
i was gonna say thats a bit mean to manga but....well you are not completely wrong :lol:
Title: Re: Prog 2289: Shotgun Diplomacy
Post by: broodblik on 04 July, 2022, 04:37:21 PM
Cover by Greg Staples:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWfSb0IWQAMjCco?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Prog 2289: Shotgun Diplomacy
Post by: broodblik on 04 July, 2022, 04:37:43 PM
Cover and Logo:

(https://dyn.media.forbiddenplanet.com/fmHDzPg-fRmvVZz60CViemBGh5g=/trim/fit-in/779x1024/filters:format(webp)/https://media.forbiddenplanet.com/products/d7/03/9d456719e0f8760915c6289a0bead81679e8.jpeg)
Title: Re: Prog 2289: Shotgun Diplomacy
Post by: Colin YNWA on 04 July, 2022, 07:46:16 PM
Decent Prog, certainly a bit step up from last time mainly due to Dexter.

Dredd nice opening episode, with a warning that it might all get slippy with the timeframes. We'll see but certianly perks the interest and Goddard give good Dredd.

Hope we knew would be in 2 (or more?) 'reels' and so on that basis this final part is a good one. Pulls us further in and then ends on a great cliffhanger. Anyone else got a real Fatale (as in Phillips and Brubaker Fatale from the image on the final page?)

So yeah its a surprise to learn that this Dexter will be the penultimate story in Bulletopia a story that offer so much, then fell apart of the momentum drifted but has recovered of late. I really hope the final story is an long 12 parter or similar, there seems a lot to sort out. ANYWAY to the present really nice opening part and I'm already into this one. Lets hope it has a more confident ending than the last one.

Skip Tracer aint too bad.

Brink on the other hand is bloody brilliant.

So yeah pretty good Prog.
Title: Re: Prog 2289: Shotgun Diplomacy
Post by: Southstreeter on 05 July, 2022, 09:48:36 PM
I suspect Bulletopia is just telling the tale of the escape from Downlode. It will undoubtedly be followed by a multi-year fragmented epic set in Mangapore, so I very much doubt the whole AI story is done yet, not by a long chalk.
Title: Re: Prog 2289: Shotgun Diplomacy
Post by: broodblik on 06 July, 2022, 04:24:56 AM
A good prog but not a great prog with Dredd taking the honours.

Dredd – A good start to the new arc, end with a good cliffhanger. Goddard's art as always works in the world of Dredd.

Hope – The end of the first reel and Broxton's art was the highlight throughout the series. At one stage the story was lingering but the last few parts have certainly picked-up and we end with a very interesting note.

Skippy – Well not bad and it is end with where will the story will takes us.

Sin/Dex – Dex/Sin + Dex – Another chapter in Bulletopia although this is the penultimate chapter it is difficult to see how it will end the whole saga. Not much is going on, but it looks like next chapter will have a lot of action.

Brink – Another talkative episode which just nudge the plot slightly into another direction and it ends with I want to read the next chapter now moment.
Title: Re: Prog 2289: Shotgun Diplomacy
Post by: IndigoPrime on 06 July, 2022, 11:41:34 AM
Alas, this Prog didn't land well here. Dredd looks fun: another Williams Hollywood movie. Hope has kind of lost me with this run. It lacks the focus of its predecessors (which I grabbed in trade – I won't here). Skip Tracer is fine. I doubt it'll make a convert of me, but I hope this last run works OK. Dexter feels so bitty now and this story feels entirely inconsequential thus far. Brink is one of my favourites, but I'll admit I'm feeling this is starting to drag a bit. Likely warrants a re-read when done.

Dredd > Brink > Skip Tracer > Hope > Dexter
Title: Re: Prog 2289: Shotgun Diplomacy
Post by: sintec on 06 July, 2022, 05:35:34 PM
The regened break has sucked some of the thrill out of Hope for me. Might give it a reread and see how it hangs together when read in a single sitting without the gap. Dredd seems intriguing and Dexter looks like it's setting up some solid action for this run. I'm indifferent to Skip at this point, seems like it's wrapping up plot threads I'm either ignorant of or forgot, meh. Brink is another talky episode, needs to find some action/tension again soon (maybe also not helped by the regened pause).
Title: Re: Prog 2289: Shotgun Diplomacy
Post by: Leigh S on 06 July, 2022, 07:12:22 PM
No prog for me.... I'd normally pick it up from the shop, but if it doesnt turn up tomorrow, I'l be contacting Subs - cant see why the subs are so much worse now than during the pandemic?
Title: Re: Prog 2289: Shotgun Diplomacy
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 06 July, 2022, 07:50:23 PM
Quote from: Leigh S on 06 July, 2022, 07:12:22 PM
cant see why the subs are so much worse now than during the pandemic?

Well, the Tories have more-or-less privatised the Post Office, so I can't imagine that's helping. Also, the pandemic isn't over. We're smack in the middle of another wave, it's just the government and their stooges in the media aren't talking about it.
Title: Re: Prog 2289: Shotgun Diplomacy
Post by: Leigh S on 06 July, 2022, 08:14:44 PM
True enough - I've heard of more people with Covid these past few weeks than for a long time.  Though it is very consistently late for the longest time before that and it's still a pain when you've stumped up front to get it early when that is increasingly not the case (and the bills still run like clockwork!). 

I've always bought a copy from the shops rather than report one missing in the past, but that was when it was a fairly rare occurrence and I was nearer a Smiths on a daily rather than a weekly basis.  First World problems (Homeworking benefits outweight that particular downside!), but annoying nonetheless.


Title: Re: Prog 2289: Shotgun Diplomacy
Post by: Barrington Boots on 08 July, 2022, 11:39:36 AM
Did yours arrive Leigh? Mine still hasn't and think we might be reasonaly close, geographically speaking, from stuff you've posted before about Birmingham comic shops etc...
Title: Re: Prog 2289: Shotgun Diplomacy
Post by: IndigoPrime on 08 July, 2022, 01:06:42 PM
I had a chat with someone from my local sorting office. Around here, there are ongoing staff shortages from a combination of people leaving (and roles then not being filled), other people going part-time, and the massive but largely swept under the carpet COVID wave blazing through the country.

So: a combination of COVID and a lack of resources (the latter being what happens when a govt tells millions of people to fuck off).
Title: Re: Prog 2289: Shotgun Diplomacy
Post by: norton canes on 09 July, 2022, 02:10:18 PM
The prog continues in fine form with Rob Williams taking up the reins in 'Special Relationship', a weird and wonderful reel one wrap for Hope and an instalment of Brink that's as eminently readable as any other.

TOP THRILL this week goes to Dexter though, with a brilliantly concise and incisive opener to its next mini-chapter. The Abnett droid's plot and dialogue remain as enthralling as ever but it's Tazio Bettin's artwork (beautifully complimented by Matt Soffe's colours) that's really lighting up my thrill-receptors. The two panels with the conflicting gangs are particularly brilliant - I presume the script has given some rough ideas then said "Just go with it" and the range of characters, and the way they're posed, is just superb. Props also for drawing those six different panels of Mikhey delivering exposition in a different way each time - they could easily have been duplicated - and for the striking way Klinks is sitting hand-under-leg. Oh, and for a lovely Allegro. A real masterclass.
Title: Re: Prog 2289: Shotgun Diplomacy
Post by: Darren Stephens on 10 July, 2022, 03:04:24 PM
Hardly any mention for that awesome Staples cover? Good prog, Dredd continues to be my fave of this line-up ( and most line ups, to be fair...)