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Don't get me wrong, I would dearly love to understand it as I think there is actually a good story underneath it all, so thanks for the summary. It's just that a number of re-reads in I still "don't get it".

Someone posted on the 40th event thread that they got Kek-W to explain it to them. To which all I can say is, I wish I had thought of that!

I'm not sure reading it from the start will make it any more comprehensible. Good luck.

Ah now! The first series is very straightforward, involving only four (or five) different time periods, the only real trick being to keep track of which facial hair is which. The second is even simpler from a chrono-chaos standpoint (two periods?) but really starts piling on the characters towards the end so you do need to keep your Bacons distinct from your Brownes and your Raleighs from your Ritterstahls.

But all this was just lulling us into a false sense of understanding: it's this current series that really goes utterly bonkers with time changes and overlaps, third party narrators, turncoat shapechangers, mutiple Ritterstahls and even multiple schismatic Orders fighting each other.

Which is why it's so bloody marvellous. utterly incomprehensible.

FTFY

It did start in Prog 2015 which was the year end Prog that came out in December 2014. It then carried on in the next Prog which was 1912.

The year end Progs were numbered 2000, 2001 etc until Tharg abandoned that scheme a couple of years ago and they now use the correct sequential numbers.

So there are now two Progs 2000, two Progs 2001 etc.

Confusing isn't it?

AW no way. that means I need to travel into Glasgow to find a decent shop that sells them both !! 
Forbidden Planet again !

You can order them online from the 2000AD shop, which is what I did.

On that very point-when is the finale?

I was just about to ask that, having picked up issues 3,4, and 5 from John Wagner on Saturday and having just received 1 and 2 in the post from him.

Also, dumb question, where can I buy them from?

Just received issues 1 and 2 of Rok of the Reds direct from John Wagner as promised on Saturday (signed as well).

Really looking forward to reading these.

I'm kicking myself that I didn't buy the Ezquerra Dredd 1977 x 2017 and the black and white Chris Weston Nemesis prints when I had the chance on Saturday.

The IDW Dredd might well be the same Dredd, but the bottom line, I would have thought, is: if it appeared as a Judge Dredd story in the Prog or the Meg it will be in the Case Files, if it didn't it won't.

 I would assume that NONE of the IDW stuff will be in the Case Files.

One thing that did strike me though was the disparity in the queue lengths for the creators. Predictably I guess the queues for Pat, John, Carlos, Fabry and Bisley seemed to stretch to Betelgeuse and back or mooovvvveee reeeaaalllly sloooowly (I never did get to Glenn as I prioritised the SD film instead) whilst some other truly top creators has no queue or a queue of one.

I couldn't understand that either.  Creators who have had very little published so far, or who had something published a long time ago but not much since I'd understand, but there was one or two who had had a lot published, including some absurdly well-recieved works, worked internationally but still producing comics for 2000ad but who had no queue at all when I went to them.  Couldn't understand it.

Yeah the whole time Ben Willsher was doing my sketch, Simon Fraser was just standing there. When I was queuing for Fabry, Alan Grant came and sat down and no-one apart from me and one other went over. I mean seriously come on people!!!!!!

Licensing indie game developers to produce 2000AD games was discussed extensively at the Growing Rebellion panel by Jason Kingsley and how they have "red lines" (i.e. non negotiables) for who they license the characters to must and must not do (e.g. Rogue Trooper must be blue).

Well that was my first convention of any sort ever. I had been getting a little concerned about maximising the day before hand, but a little forward planning and realising that you can't do everything really helped.

Highlights of the day for me were:

Chatting to a couple of others in the queuing and getting their perspective. Best story of the day for me was from one of them: "I have a friend who used to play football with a guy who "worked a bit" in comics. I ask him what is name was and he said "oh its Brian something...Bolland is it?""  It didn't mean anything to his friend apparently and now he has lost touch with "Brian".

Getting in early and after taking a couple of minutes to get the lay of the land, making a bee line straight for Pat Mills to sign my ABC Warriors Titan editon (no way was I lugging the Mek Files or my precious Nemesis the Warlock vol 1 around all day) and Horned God vol3 when the queue for him was only ten deep - it was approx 50 deep 20 minutes later.

Getting into virtually all the talks I had planned to, only sacrificing the Editor Reunited Panel to ensure I got into the Strontium Dog fan film.

Nice chats with Clint Langley (from whom I bought two great Slaine prints), David Roach (who had the original pages from his Prog 2000 Anderson story on display but sadly not for sale) and especially Ben Willsher (who did a great sketch for me - a Dredd profile view which really complements one of the panels in Meg 380). It was great to hear what Clint Langely and Ben Willsher are doing next.   

Top things from the panel for me: great to hear the attitude of Jason Kingsley to protecting the 2000AD brand and characters, Dave Gibbons statement that the art is there to serve the story and not be a "piece of art in its own right", Glenn Fabry's and Simon Bisley's friendly rivalry (Simon "no way could I follow Glenn's amazing pencils so I decided to paint it"; Glenn "I thought I had done a good job and then Bisley comes along!*@?"), and how eloquent a speaker Pat Mills is.

I managed to buy a load of back Progs from Orbital, which I got for Cursed Earth centre spreads - to compare against the recent hardback, just to see how close the repro is given the, ahem, discussion on here about it a couple of years ago.

I also bought the Shamballa Mega Collection volume purely because Alan Grant said it was his favourite story he has written AND then get him to sign it (whilst hardly having to queue up for it as a kindly fellow squaxx held my place in the Glenn Fabry queue).

Also what a nice man that Mr Wagner is. I bought a complete set of Rok of the Reds 1 to 5, but he had run out of 1 and 2. No problem he is just going to post them to me! What great service and what a humble man. Indeed what struck me was how appreciative all the creators I spoke to were of the love we have for what they are doing.

One thing that did strike me though was the disparity in the queue lengths for the creators. Predictably I guess the queues for Pat, John, Carlos, Fabry and Bisley seemed to stretch to Betelgeuse and back or mooovvvveee reeeaaalllly sloooowly (I never did get to Glenn as I prioritised the SD film instead) whilst some other truly top creators has no queue or a queue of one.

I finished up with the viewing of the extended version of Future Shock. I had been in two minds but when one of the producers came in and started chatting to us and said it has an extra 15 mins and that that cut will never be seen again (not even on the forecoming new DVD release with hours of extras) that was it, I couldn't miss that, even if it meant foregoing the bar.

It was also nice to catch up with a couple of guys I had met at a drink up at the back end of last year, but sadly I never did make it to the bar - not once all day - there was just too much else to do and frankly I can go to the pub anytime.

One question though - just who was Pat referring to at the end of Future Shock when he say "You haven't got an f...ing  clue what you are doing, so you can f... off" (or words to that effect)?  The way it is edited makes it look like it is Jason Kingsley, but surely not given what he and brother Chris had to say on the panel earlier in the day.(?)

Can't make up my mind what to go and see. My initial thought was the talks and don't worry too much about getting stuff signed. But if the talks are going to be on YouTube afterwards maybe I should concentrate on other stuff? What do people think about the live drawing? Can't decide if that will be interesting or a bit dull.

Those of us who live here have to deal with that all the time 

I mean Future Shock screening.

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