Day of Chaos 2: a.Covid-19 thread.

[Tjm86]

We'll have all schools in,
we'll have all schools out,
in, out, in, out,
Your head will spin about ...

You do the Covid-cokey,
And you cough and croak,
That's until Johnson's out!

[shaolin_monkey]

Check out this fantastic new pamphlet discussing the facts, the myths, and the reliable sources of information on #COVID19 and the vaccines!

This free PDF has been carefully written and designed by experts to help deal with the disinformation on the subject.

https://hackmd.io/@scibehC19vax/home

Alternative PDF download sites:

https://osf.io/f6a48/

https://figshare.com/articles/online_resource/The_COVID-19_Vaccine_Communication_Handbook/13521605

[shaolin_monkey]

I cannot emphasise enough just how bloody great this pamphlet is!!

If you’re a medical professional, an educator, a policy maker, or anyone else who has to engage with the public over COVID-19 and the vaccine, this is an essential piece of your toolkit!

For everyone else, take 20 mins out of your day to look through it - so much great information in there about how to deal with the misinformation around the subject!

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/pfigshare-u-files/25971167/TheCOVID19VaccineCommunicationHandbook.pdf

[TordelBack]

It's great, many thanks for the heads-up.  Have already started firing at those I feel could use it.

[JayzusB.Christ]

I cannot emphasise enough just how bloody great this pamphlet is!!

If you’re a medical professional, an educator, a policy maker, or anyone else who has to engage with the public over COVID-19 and the vaccine, this is an essential piece of your toolkit!

For everyone else, take 20 mins out of your day to look through it - so much great information in there about how to deal with the misinformation around the subject!

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/pfigshare-u-files/25971167/TheCOVID19VaccineCommunicationHandbook.pdf

Thanks, shaolin, that's great stuff.

[Tiplodocus]

This is just fucking grim now.

[Rately]

How the Tories haven't had to resign, at this stage, depresses me so completely.

[IndigoPrime]

When their polling is holding up so well, why would they feel the need to change at all? It doesn’t help that Brits have normalised this now. Other countries are broadly back to normal, with brief periods of lockdown. Their peaks are like our best days. But Brits now think a thousand deaths a day is bad rather than insanely catastrophic and that a few dozen a day is fine, despite that being the sort of thing many countries have yet to even suffer. It’s insane and ludicrous and I don’t know what it’ll take to wake Brits up from this.

[Rately]

When their polling is holding up so well, why would they feel the need to change at all? It doesn’t help that Brits have normalised this now. Other countries are broadly back to normal, with brief periods of lockdown. Their peaks are like our best days. But Brits now think a thousand deaths a day is bad rather than insanely catastrophic and that a few dozen a day is fine, despite that being the sort of thing many countries have yet to even suffer. It’s insane and ludicrous and I don’t know what it’ll take to wake Brits up from this.

A thousand people plus a day. My God.

Is there even any value to a single human life? How anyone in this Government can look themselves in the mirror, killing people so their cronies can profit.

To see the Tories still topping polling says it all about how far Britain has fallen.

[Jim_Campbell]

The total PHE 28-day figure is now nudging 85,000.

Remember Live Aid? Remember the capacity crowd at Wembley? That was about 85,000 people. Or the entire population of St Albans or Hemel Hempstead.

[Professor Bear]

To the Tories, this is just solving the surplus population question.  Their only concern is with the optics, and four years away from an election, with the media still very much on their side and the opposition playing purity-politics games that keep the working classes split, the Tories aren't even particularly concerned with optics.

[TordelBack]

The normalisation of avoidable mass deaths is sobering, and not just a UK or US issue.  As a nation we (rightly) still get exercised about the killing of 14 civilians a century ago on Bloody Sunday 1920, or 14 civilians 50 years ago on Bloody Sunday 1972, but yesterday alone we notified 63 additional Covid deaths here, over twice the combined totals of those tragedies.  And yet our Health Minister, an ambulatory boiled egg, continues to demonstrably lie and tell us his government followed public health advice (they didn't), and it's actually all our own fault.  Goes as far as to state that our bacchanalian revels on New Years Eve were the cause of high case numbers on New Years Day (an obvious impossibility), and yet somehow he retains his job.

[Jim_Campbell]

Interesting Twitter thread here on the UK government narrative that the Covid rules are sufficient, but there's not enough compliance.

TL;DR version: there's good compliance with most rules, excellent compliance with many. The one that's falling short is the one that's most importance, and which (possibly not coincidentally) the government gives least emphasis to… self-isolation.



With the new variant being so much more contagious, this should be 1) legally enforcible, and 2) supported by the most generous support package imaginable. Literally, whatever you're earning now, we will pay you for twenty days to stay at home. If you live alone, we will bring food and medication to your doorstep. Now, stay the fuck indoors or you'll get a fine so big your children will be paying it off. And that goes for everyone else in your house.

[IndigoPrime]

This government’s entire way of operating is to get quick headlines, do little or no work, ignore key details, and blame others when things go wrong. COVID is just another example. It was always going to be someone else’s fault. In this case, the blame is placed on the public. Depressingly, polling suggests most of the public agrees. (I don’t think the public doesn’t share the blame. Plenty of people don’t do what they should, and we’ve been a ‘least possible’ culture throughout this pandemic. But the government has been a shambles and should have done much better. Mind you, policing of the style seen in South Korea or even Spain wouldn’t be possible here, because we just don’t have the numbers for enforcement. Locally, it’s all now down to community ‘officers’.)

[Eamonn Clarke]

Here’s our very own forum superstar healthcare professional Eamonn Clarke getting the vaccine!

Nice one Eamonn!!

Just catching up here. Thanks, SM.

We have a vaccination hub at a nearby practice in two poly tunnels that were erected by volunteers. I have been administering both the Pfizer and the AstraZeneca jabs for the last few weeks and apart from some sore bruised arms no serious reactions. Blooming cold in the tunnels though.

It won’t surprise you to learn that our biggest problem is getting the vaccines. We’ve had deliveries cancelled and others turning up with a few days notice. Still we haven’t wasted any vaccine doses. If they give us the jabs we’ll get the job done.