Round 5 was always going to be a quickie and in two weeks we are done. I'm thinking maybe next round we'll go to one a day to give us more time to luxuriate (or for me to prep whatever's next if I'm honest, not had to think about that for some time!) Anyway not much else to say except a week of more bastard hard choices!
For whatever reason these two symbolise the NuGolden Age - as I see it - two fantastic thrills that are rocks of the Rebellion age. Both alas, at least at the moment, denied the continuation, or conclusion they so richly deserve. Does this one boil down to which one you'd like to see back the most?
Brass Sun: Cadet Anderson; Flesh; Cursed Earth Koburn
Savage: DevlinWaugh; Kingmaker; 13
Brass Sun - more info (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=profiles&choice=brass)
VS
Savage - more info (https://shop.2000ad.com/series/savage)
Just reply in this thread naming your favourite thrill of these two series at the beginning of your post (or use Bold tags so I can spot it easily) and say what you like about these wonderful stories after that.
Match ends early on the morning of Saturday 13th August and the winner gets a place in Round 6 (of 9!!!).
What on Earth is ALL of this? (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=48011.0)
For those that need 'um and can be bothered to follow 'um there's some simple rules (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=48011.msg1070150#msg1070150)
Any questions, just ask as ever - and have FUN!
Savage because sometimes just shooting people is what 2000ad needs.
Savage.
Brass Sun.
Savage.
Too much Ro-Busters and lunatic polemic drives Savage down for me.
Brass Sun
Savage.
Savage was starting to go off the rails towards the end but for me is far better - gritty, nasty, packed with action and a dubious, brutal anti-hero. Patrick Goddard draws the hell out of it as well when he comes in, from sidestreet firefights to tigers to full on warfare, and it's reminiscent for me of the glory days of Battle. The strip really peaks for me when Savage and Co are stuck on that bridge - it's desperate, tense stuff, yet still humanises the Volgans with that little plot about the birdwatcher. Yes, the dialogue is often ropey but it's a genuine modern classic for me. Gets my vote!
Quote from: Barrington Boots on 10 August, 2022, 09:01:23 AM
Savage was starting to go off the rails towards the end but for me is far better - gritty, nasty, packed with action and a dubious, brutal anti-hero. Patrick Goddard draws the hell out of it as well when he comes in, from sidestreet firefights to tigers to full on warfare, and it's reminiscent for me of the glory days of Battle. The strip really peaks for me when Savage and Co are stuck on that bridge - it's desperate, tense stuff, yet still humanises the Volgans with that little plot about the birdwatcher. Yes, the dialogue is often ropey but it's a genuine modern classic for me. Gets my vote!
Savage, for all the reasons he said ^^. Brass Sun never really 'clicked' with me, to be honest.
Savage
When you put it like 'which series do you most want to come back to the Prog', it's an EASY win for Brass Sun. As Funt Solo points out, the later books of Savage get into some really weird cod psychology, and if you're looking for sympatheic, well-handled female action characters, Brass Sun has got you covered in a way Mills never managed despite his best intentions.
The good bits of Savage really are very good, I think especially Patrick Goddard's gritty bombed-out London, but the sheer beauty of the imagination behind the Wheel of Worlds, and the variation of those worlds themselves, puts Brass Sun into Top 10 2000AD territory for me. Well, assuming Edginton and Culbard / whoever takes over on art can stick some sort of landing.
Anyway, Brass Sun, please.
Savage has plenty going for it, but at some point I lost track of what was going on, and I never really could be bothered to go back and find out. (The both-sidesing got a bit too much, and the dovetail into Ro-Busters felt forced.)
Brass Sun's big problem is that it just stopped, and there's no knowing if it'll ever be fired up again. Still, I preferred it at the time, and – as some others have said here – it's the series I'd most want back in the Prog if I had to choose between the two. So: Brass Sun.
Brass Sun.
Cheers
brass sun
Based on which I'd be most likely to reread (haven't done either) it'll have to be
brass sun
Get me shootah, it's Savage
Savage
I hated Brass Sun when it was running in the prog. Hated it. Many years later (because it *was* years ago now) I reread the whole thing and it became clear that I had misjudged it badly. It's very good, and it's a great shame it never came back. I wonder why, as Tharg obviously invested a great deal in it- hardback edition, US mini series- you'd have thought Tharg would have made more of it a priority.
But even with all that being true, Savage because Pat Mills.
SBT
Brass Sun
Going to go with the "which would I rather see more of" and that's undoubtebly Brass Sun. Love Savage for all it's gritty violence but Brass Sun stands out as something different in the prog where gritty violence is a bit of a given
Brass Sun but this was a close one for me.
Savage. (Despite the Johnny Depp adverts)
Quote from: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) on 11 August, 2022, 06:55:58 AMyou'd have thought Tharg would have made more of it a priority.
The gist appears to be that Tharg would have it back in an instant, but the people creating the thing need to be in a position to do so.
Yeah, an impossible job for Tharg to prioritise when your artist is now working flat out on an even better, more profitable thrill, and your writer has so many ideas stuck in his head he ends up churning out too many new series to quite get around to tidying up the old ones! Especially when he constructs a perfectly beautiful ending for Scarlet Traces and then goes a page further, pointing to a whole new series for that story...
Savage
Savage.
Brass Sun
With a day to go this one is close. last day votes will I reckon claim this. We'll see tomorrow morning when I do a proper count for the final result.
Brass Sun.
Savage
VOTING CLOSED
A real hard battle here and once again Savage shows its up for the fight and has again shown its got the ability to remove top thrills. Brass Sun is much loved, if push had come to shove I'd have voted for it, though I love both these thrills, its a story I really miss and would love back. That long absense might have cost it? Mind its been a while since we've seen Savage and we don't know if and when either will return. Whenever they do the one thing we do know is
Savage
will be returning to Round 6.