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General / Apocalypse War
« on: 13 December, 2001, 04:16:40 AM »
The Apocalypse War needs just one more vote to register:

Link: Vote Now!

Suggestions / Re: 2 good reasons to get voting...
« on: 12 December, 2001, 06:11:28 AM »
...and at the other end of the quality scale, Morrison/Millars Dredd 'epic' "Crusade" only needs one more vote to cast it's (hopefully pitiful) thrill rating into the public eye - go to prog 928!

Suggestions / 2 good reasons to get voting...
« on: 12 December, 2001, 06:06:34 AM »
The first is that the list of top and bottom thrills has been extended, so you can see the top/bottom twenty.

The second is that a number of classics already have 4 votes and are awaiting their 5th vote in order to register!  Go to prog 194 for 'The Fink', prog 200 for 'Portrait of A Mutant' or prog 387 to register Nemesis Book iv: the Gothic Empire - your vote is all that is needed!!

General / Re: Etc.
« on: 13 December, 2001, 03:50:24 AM »
I don't think you'll find too many people who think 2000AD is better than it's EVER been, but you do have to put a lot of those old progs into perspective and also compare 2000AD now to the complete crap it was nearly 10 years ago.
Admittedly, there was a 4 or 5 year period when maybe 80% of the comic was great. Now it's usually about 40-60%, but that's a hell of a lot better than the 800's when the comic was often an utter waste of space. 2000AD HAS improved immensely.  As others have said, if you don't support the genuine efforts of the new owners to recapture a little of that glory by buying the comic, you don't deserve an opinion.  No representation without taxation!

Until Rebellion can magic two or three new unbelievably talented and ground breaking writers out of thin air, I reckon 2000AD is near as good as it can be. If more people bought the comic, Rebellion would have more cash to spend and could commission a little more in advance (avoiding filler like Killer), afford more editorial staff to ensure better quality, etc.

Why not subscribe and make a difference?  

The problem is that back in the 80's 2000AD broke new ground - stories like Nemesis and Dredd were so off the wall, they are still ahead of their time even now - how they got away with these subversive stories in a kids comic is astounding.

However, you must remember that 2000AD was crap until starlord merged.  It was then crap again when Tornado merged.  Only in the late 100's/early 200's did 2000AD enter a period where the quality was discernibly better than current 2000AD.

This 'golden' period was purely because you had three powerhouses writing the bulk of 2000AD - Wagner, Mills and Alan Moore were churning out classics week in and week out.  And even then we still had rubbish like Mean team, post-traitor Rogue, Harry Twenty, Meltdown Man, Bad City Blue....  

While Wagner is still writing classic Dredds, Mills has got lost along the way in his own obsessions (magick/paganism etc), while Moore has long since departed.

2000AD has improved immensely with the use of Robbie Morrison (though he has so far only shined on Dante - witness this weeks poor Dredd), Rennie, Smith and even Abnett (despite the long overdue retirement of Sin/Dex).

I think Dig-L has done a lot of things to bring 2000AD back towards this point - getting the classic artists back has been one move (Wilson, Kennedy, MacNeil) and a return of characters and stories like Alpha and Bad Co has been another.

What 2000AD is crying out for is a new writer with loads of ideas. Ironically, from the look of Lenny Zero, it might just be that Dig-L has been what 2000AD needed on the other side of the editors desk all this time. I hope Andy sticks with 2000AD for a good while, and can bring in some fresh ideas.

Also remember how far 2000AD fell in the early 90's - when I read the progs between 700-1000 now, I can hardly believe I kept on buying the comic.  It's been a long hard struggle back to where 2000AD is now, and I hope Cyber-Matt can consolidate the good work done by his predecessor.  


General / Hurrah!...
« on: 09 December, 2001, 07:20:10 PM »
Outlaw has become the first old strip to enter the worst thrills list, with a score of 4.6 (about midway on the top ten).  However, with only 5 votes thios could go either way still...

However the following have yet to receive 5 votes - I've listed the prog number to make them easier to find when you go to vote -

Mean Team   437
Chronos Carnival   676
Dry Run     688
Junker      708
The Clown   774
WireHeads   803
Babe Race 2000     883
A Life Less Ordinary   1063

General / Re: Re: Re: Re: Best Dredd ever?
« on: 08 December, 2001, 11:45:17 PM »
My personal favourite changes from day to day, but top tales are

The Hunters Club - I love these "real life" (as in could conceivably be the story for a modern day thriller), such as "It's happening Live on line 9" and "Diary of a Mad Citizen".

The Fink - my first ever Dredd!

Apocalypse War is the most consistent Epic, with some great set-pieces - a better action movie than the dredd film!

To Thing With Love - a modern day classic!

Suggestions / Re: Re: Re: More Steve Sampson Artwork
« on: 08 December, 2001, 11:39:34 PM »
~But while Bolland and to a greater extent Ranson use photo ref, they do not:
A) cut pictures out of magazines,
B) paint over them (badly),
C) put a few washes of colour in for background
D) call it comic book art

Suggestions / Re: Re: Re: Re: More Steve Sampson Artwork
« on: 08 December, 2001, 11:36:20 PM »
The long version goes - Sampson is crap because he traces his characters from fashion magazines, and cannot design anything AT ALL from his own imagination.  His cbackgrounds are often non-existent.  Probably the low point (amongst many!), was when he had to draw an old person - his solution? - trace another supermodels face, but draw lines randomly all over the face!  

As someone else pointed out Ranson does something similar, but at least the finished product looks smarter than Sampson's clashing flat and indistinct watercolours!

Don't worry Fraze, I don't think you'll ever whip up as much hate as Sampson does...not unless you start spending too much time using Kays catalogue for reference!! :)

Suggestions / Re: Re: More Steve Sampson Artwork
« on: 08 December, 2001, 08:27:54 PM »
The reason we haven't seen his work is because he is without doubt the crappest artist in the history of 2000AD - simple, really!

General / Re: Re: Re: Re: Tales of Terror
« on: 05 December, 2001, 11:01:49 PM »
Oh god,  Wireheads!  I'd wiped that one out of my memory for the sake of my own sanity!

Some nutter is actually requesting the "Panther with human Brain" strip (survivor) as possible reprint in the Megazine!!!!  It takes all sorts I suppose.  Hope you're all voting!!

General / Re: Tales of Terror
« on: 05 December, 2001, 04:11:34 AM »
Also Bad City Blue, Trash, BLAIR 1, Space Girls and Kellys Eye...

General / Tales of Terror
« on: 05 December, 2001, 04:06:12 AM »
Dry Run        The Clown       Babe Race 2000
Outlaw       Bradley        Mean Team
Millars Robohunter      Fleischers Rogue
Junker    Helltrekkers    

These have all been fingered as the worst thrills in the other thread - please vote on these to make the bottom thrills more representative (or to save them from a poor showing if you liked them!).

Go to characters/profile/ click on the character then click on the number next to '2000AD' to list the stories.  So far none of these have achieved five votes.  Given I've already voted on them, it would just take another four votes to register them.  If you've any other bad thrills from bygone progs, name and shame it here!

Suggestions / Re: Worst Thrills
« on: 04 December, 2001, 02:52:57 AM »
Just went to prog 888 to vote on BabeRace2000 and came across another stinker - The Clown!  Ugh!!

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