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Title: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 23 September, 2014, 07:51:38 PM
It seems that the call has gone out to push Dredd on the web and by any other means ladies and gentlemen!

ASK NOT WHAT DREDD CAN DO FOR YOU, ASK WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR DREDD (http://us5.campaign-archive2.com/?u=a6e40236aa24d482cfff600d2&id=e1064e2e8c)
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: von Boom on 23 September, 2014, 08:02:21 PM
Once more unto the breach, dear friends; once more!
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: dweezil2 on 23 September, 2014, 08:15:32 PM
One more copy can't hurt surely?   :lol:
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 23 September, 2014, 08:29:40 PM
This thread also makes me happy.
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Stu101 on 24 September, 2014, 12:49:34 AM
I'm going for the dvd online, then donate to the charity shop I reckon.
Probably tweet about it too, cos that counts for loads with 66 followers...  :lol:
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Banners on 24 September, 2014, 07:43:44 AM
The best way of getting us to buy another Dredd DVD would be to make a sequel.
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: dweezil2 on 24 September, 2014, 09:54:12 AM
Quote from: Stu101 on 24 September, 2014, 12:49:34 AM
I'm going for the dvd online, then donate to the charity shop I reckon.
Probably tweet about it too, cos that counts for loads with 66 followers...  :lol:

Great idea!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 24 September, 2014, 10:46:54 AM
Buy some foreign ones and donate them to Mr Burdis' invaluable cellar, maybe.
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: dweezil2 on 24 September, 2014, 01:52:16 PM
Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 24 September, 2014, 10:46:54 AM
Buy some foreign ones and donate them to Mr Burdis' invaluable cellar, maybe.

Funnily enough I've been on a mission to collect as many foreign Dredd versions as I can-I've even got a Russian copy on its way!
Here 's a sample, including Australian Ltd edition, Netherlands Lenticular cover and the Canadian embossed. Slip-cover.

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/mubhceeb/imagejpg1-9.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/mubhceeb/media/imagejpg1-9.jpg.html)


(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/mubhceeb/imagejpg2-3.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/mubhceeb/media/imagejpg2-3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: dweezil2 on 24 September, 2014, 02:05:26 PM
Also of interest to collectors, but not released yet, is this Dredd FuturePak from the Netherlands!

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i128/mubhceeb/imagejpg1-12.jpg) (http://s71.photobucket.com/user/mubhceeb/media/imagejpg1-12.jpg.html)
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 24 September, 2014, 02:08:42 PM
Are any of them widescreen? The copy I received for Christmas (or possibly my birthday, I forget) was cropped to buggery.
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: dweezil2 on 24 September, 2014, 02:15:12 PM
I can't say regarding the Netherlands release, as it's still sealed.
The Australian disc is the same as the U.K disc, although it has the 35 Years of 2000AD extra missing from many of the other releases-as far as I know the Canadian version is identical to the U.K one regarding aspect ratio.   :)
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 24 September, 2014, 02:31:47 PM
Was it black and white on your telly as well Sharky ;)
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 24 September, 2014, 03:58:54 PM
It would have been but the black's not working...
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 September, 2014, 04:47:31 PM
Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 24 September, 2014, 02:08:42 PM
Are any of them widescreen? The copy I received for Christmas (or possibly my birthday, I forget) was cropped to buggery.


That shouldn't be the case for any official releases.


Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 24 September, 2014, 04:57:36 PM
Yep, official bog-standard single disk edition and the left and right sides of the film just aren't there. It's really noticeable in scenes like the one outside the first drug den bust when Anderson gestures for someone to back off. It's not a big deal but it does irk me a bit. Also cropped off is CF's name on the news ticker tape banner, amongst other niggles.
.
Good film, though - I've watched it many times.
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: JOE SOAP on 24 September, 2014, 05:16:52 PM


Is it the UK DVD or Blu-ray?
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: dweezil2 on 24 September, 2014, 05:26:15 PM
Sounds like the set-up on the T.V and Blu-ray player are wrong.
Make sure both the screen settings on the player and T.V are set to 'Original' or 'Auto' settings.
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 24 September, 2014, 05:46:19 PM
It's not the tv or dvd player.
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Steve Green on 24 September, 2014, 08:39:44 PM
More importantly, are Goaty's appearances still in there?
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 24 September, 2014, 08:55:10 PM
I'll have to watch it again to check...
.
Any excuse to stick it on!
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: The Bissler on 24 September, 2014, 11:36:14 PM
Shouldn't we try to link up on Twitter to retweet as often as possible next week?

You can find me @thebissler if anyone wants to follow & I will follow back.
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: James Stacey on 26 September, 2014, 09:32:57 AM
http://montreal.about.com/od/montrealcomiccon/ss/Karl-Urban-Talks-Star-Trek-3-Comiccon-Dredd-Sequels-amp-Prequels_3.htm#step-heading
QuoteI'm going to be in London in a few weeks and I'll be sitting down with ["Dredd" screenwriter] Alex Garland and the producers at DNA and you know what? What's clear to me is that there's a lot of love for Dredd. It's kind of become a cult classic. Fans are screaming out for another installment and I think it's just about finding the right package and putting it together in a way that is going to work for financiers and work for the fans.
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Goaty on 26 September, 2014, 09:44:53 AM
Awesome man.
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Banners on 26 September, 2014, 10:01:04 AM
He is.
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Proudhuff on 30 September, 2014, 04:32:07 PM
(https://gallery.mailchimp.com/a6e40236aa24d482cfff600d2/images/fc5925f9-0a03-4218-b3a1-8b303e59756d.jpg)

so what you doing?
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: von Boom on 30 September, 2014, 04:59:52 PM
I will twitter about it.

I already have physical copies of the film, and since I have both Apple and Android devices I'll buy a copy on itunes and one on google play.
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Goaty on 30 September, 2014, 05:02:09 PM
Carlos shows his support!

(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/10431524_524896757646793_5931888770664304014_n.jpg?oh=c526dcd4f81c3404742fd49cbd83a258&oe=54C432A2)
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: dweezil2 on 30 September, 2014, 05:07:33 PM
Buying a DVD copy for a friend and will buy a Blu-ray to donate to the local Cancer research charity shop.

Also plenty of Facebook spamming!  :lol:
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: The Legendary Shark on 30 September, 2014, 05:15:29 PM
I will be blowing the kneecaps off perps.
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: von Boom on 30 September, 2014, 05:21:30 PM
Quote from: The Legendary Shark on 30 September, 2014, 05:15:29 PM
I will be blowing the kneecaps off perps.

Shark wins.
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Stu101 on 30 September, 2014, 05:58:06 PM
It'll also get great news coverage, apart from the fact that the film will get the blame for such despicable acts.  :)
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Goaty on 30 September, 2014, 06:08:33 PM
Cosplay Judges in the streets!
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Spaceghost on 01 October, 2014, 08:10:08 AM
Har har. Paul Leonard Morgan posted his highly professional music video for Mini Guns from the DREDD soundtrack to Facebook in honour of the Day of Dredd.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNpPlJ7u3Og

It's better than the Stallone film!
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Goaty on 01 October, 2014, 09:06:32 AM
Quote from: Spaceghost on 01 October, 2014, 08:10:08 AM
It's better than the Stallone film!

Anything better than that film!

but awesome video!
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Goaty on 01 October, 2014, 11:42:21 AM
Simon Pegg support it!
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 01 October, 2014, 12:14:27 PM
Quote from: Spaceghost on 01 October, 2014, 08:10:08 AM
Har har. Paul Leonard Morgan posted his highly professional music video for Mini Guns from the DREDD soundtrack to Facebook in honour of the Day of Dredd.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNpPlJ7u3Og

It's better than the Stallone film!

Brilliant!  That is really funny (but then I am easily amused).
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Proudhuff on 01 October, 2014, 01:15:49 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 01 October, 2014, 11:42:21 AM
Simon Pegg support it!

what he do?
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: James Stacey on 01 October, 2014, 01:16:47 PM
I think its called a 'retweet' ?
https://twitter.com/simonpegg
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Spaceghost on 01 October, 2014, 01:59:46 PM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 01 October, 2014, 01:15:49 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 01 October, 2014, 11:42:21 AM
Simon Pegg support it!

what he do?

He Tweeted his support for a Dredd sequel to his bajillion followers ensuring MASSIVE exposure to the campaign.
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Proudhuff on 01 October, 2014, 02:50:41 PM
Quote from: Spaceghost on 01 October, 2014, 01:59:46 PM
Quote from: Proudhuff on 01 October, 2014, 01:15:49 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 01 October, 2014, 11:42:21 AM
Simon Pegg support it!

what he do?

He Tweeted his support for a Dredd sequel to his bajillion followers ensuring MASSIVE exposure to the campaign.

in that case I'll give him a cuddle if we ever met, I'm sure he'll like that  :D
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Goaty on 01 October, 2014, 05:13:50 PM
Make A Dredd Sequel posting;

Who's got a special message for DREDD fans on the #DayofDredd? Find out later today!

Wonder who that would be? Karl?
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: radiator on 01 October, 2014, 05:59:39 PM
Olivia: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/olivia-thirlby-thanks-dredd-fans-737160 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/olivia-thirlby-thanks-dredd-fans-737160)
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: radiator on 01 October, 2014, 06:02:38 PM
Gotta say, whether or not all this results in a sequel being made (my guess would be: not), this sort of coverage is great for the comic.
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Goaty on 01 October, 2014, 06:06:59 PM
Quote from: radiator on 01 October, 2014, 06:02:38 PM
Gotta say, whether or not all this results in a sequel being made (my guess would be: not), this sort of coverage is great for the comic.

You always said that for last two years, be positive. It's Day For Dredd :-)
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: radiator on 01 October, 2014, 06:32:29 PM
I am being positive! It's shrewd PR for Rebellion which I'm sure brings a bump in sales for Dredd books and comics.
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Molch-R on 01 October, 2014, 06:38:40 PM
Quote from: radiator on 01 October, 2014, 06:32:29 PM
shrewd

That's ... that's the nicest thing you've ever said about me *sniffle*

;)
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Beeks on 01 October, 2014, 08:51:12 PM
Dredd currently 12th on Amazon

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-Sellers-DVD-Blu-ray/zgbs/dvd/ref=zg_bs_dvd_home_all?pf_rd_p=233801727&pf_rd_s=center-5&pf_rd_t=2101&pf_rd_i=home&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=0H8ERY7BKDY175N99QDC
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 01 October, 2014, 08:56:35 PM
Olivia is retweeting a few Dredd bits at the moment and this one came up from the UK Judges Forum

(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10710726_10205084181688537_6403541255308358161_n.jpg?oh=7f0a60a8cd7b22ee5f105ef439082778&oe=54826865)
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Goaty on 01 October, 2014, 09:16:14 PM
She looks ready.
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Goaty on 01 October, 2014, 09:50:54 PM
Even better she tweets this;

(http://i.imgur.com/DIkOEAB.jpg)
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: dweezil2 on 02 October, 2014, 12:52:27 AM
Fantastic!   :)
You really couldn't ask for two better ambassadors for the film than Olivia Thirlby and Karl Urban!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Bat King on 02 October, 2014, 12:58:32 AM
Quote from: Molch-R on 01 October, 2014, 06:38:40 PM
Quote from: radiator on 01 October, 2014, 06:32:29 PM
shrewd

That's ... that's the nicest thing you've ever said about me *sniffle*

;)

It won't last...
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: The Bissler on 02 October, 2014, 01:05:26 AM
I spammed Twitter all day long with the DayofDredd hashtag.  It was well worth it, especially as this happened to me;

Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 October, 2014, 01:17:20 AM
Some may say that that is better than sex!
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: The Bissler on 02 October, 2014, 01:29:55 AM
My wife doesn't read this forum so I can speak freely...it's a close second CS!  :D
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: dweezil2 on 02 October, 2014, 01:37:40 AM
Quote from: The Bissler on 02 October, 2014, 01:05:26 AM
I spammed Twitter all day long with the DayofDredd hashtag.  It was well worth it, especially as this happened to me;

Awesome!   :)
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 02 October, 2014, 08:53:05 AM
Quote from: Beeks on 01 October, 2014, 08:51:12 PM
Dredd currently 12th on Amazon

Hah!

(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb36/jimcampbell2000/Amazon_Best_Sellers_zpsa27275b7.jpg)

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: James Stacey on 02 October, 2014, 09:16:47 AM
And that's DVD _and_ Blu-Ray sales
Just Blu-ray can claim #1
(http://i.imgur.com/3etlKyz.jpg)
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Goaty on 02 October, 2014, 11:29:43 AM
#DayofDredd been good yesterday with thousands retweets! Amazing!
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Spaceghost on 02 October, 2014, 02:20:51 PM
It's really amazing. So much love for our Dredd.

Call me utterly naive but if a 2012 film can be put back on top of the Bluray charts, TWICE, by a dedicated fan campaign, then it's a complete no-brainer to make that sequel.

(Waits for all the sensible people to point out exactly why that will NEVER HAPPEN using maths and facts and other annoying things)
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Proudhuff on 02 October, 2014, 03:03:43 PM
Quote from: Molch-R on 01 October, 2014, 06:38:40 PM
Quote from: radiator on 01 October, 2014, 06:32:29 PM
shrewd

That's ... that's the nicest thing you've ever said about me *sniffle*

;)

it means shrew-like, i think he's having a pop at you!

;)



Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: IndigoPrime on 02 October, 2014, 03:25:19 PM
Good to see the Dredd love is strong. I doubt it'll make much difference sequel-wise, but it showcases a clear love for the property that wasn't evident after the short theatrical run. Even if you sense another Serenity, at least we have decent comic books to follow up Dredd (both in terms of the Meg's de-facto Dredd strips and the 'standard' Judge Dredd), unlike the dreck that Firefly/Serenity became under Zack Whedon and chums. Dredd also now has a hugely improved reputation as a whole, rather than people mostly recognising it as a crappy Stallone film.

Even the worst-case scenario is pretty good, really.
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: 8-Ball on 02 October, 2014, 03:37:22 PM
It would be a shame if nothing came of it. I would love a Dredd 2 teaser-poster that said, "You wanted a sequel... well, you've got one now."  :D
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Goaty on 02 October, 2014, 03:56:20 PM
Now Olivia on YouTube by 2000AD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-yOQLiamZA&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-yOQLiamZA&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: James Stacey on 02 October, 2014, 04:25:40 PM
She looks ready
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: von Boom on 02 October, 2014, 04:45:59 PM
Just in case anyone is interested Karl is back in London this weekend for Destination Star Trek 3 (http://www.destinationstartrek.com/guests/appearing/229-karl-urban).
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 October, 2014, 04:49:16 PM
A few Judges are going to see him in uniform, which should be fun :D
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: von Boom on 02 October, 2014, 04:55:19 PM
Quote from: COMMANDO FORCES on 02 October, 2014, 04:49:16 PM
A few Judges are going to see him in uniform, which should be fun :D

No doubt!
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: radiator on 02 October, 2014, 05:16:15 PM
Quoteit means shrew-like, i think he's having a pop at you!

Hope it wasn't interpreted as such.

Remember how often 2000ad or Dredd would get any kind of media coverage before Molch_R? Clue: pretty much never.

While I don't hold out any hope for a sequel, I agree with IP - it's great that now when people think of Judge Dredd, they think of something culty and cool, not campy and crap.
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 02 October, 2014, 05:33:54 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 02 October, 2014, 03:25:19 PM
Dredd also now has a hugely improved reputation as a whole, rather than people mostly recognising it as a crappy Stallone film.

Yeah. When the fact that I read comics comes up in conversation and they ask what kind, it's great to no longer have to follow 'Judge Dredd' with a hurried 'but don't judge it on the Stallone film, the character's actually pretty good.'
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Goaty on 02 October, 2014, 05:46:36 PM
Was Stallone film damage the 2000AD back in 1995?
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 02 October, 2014, 06:03:40 PM
Quote from: Goaty on 02 October, 2014, 05:46:36 PM
Was Stallone film damage the 2000AD back in 1995?

Yes.
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 02 October, 2014, 06:07:48 PM
Things did get very rocky for a while, Goaty - I thnk it wasin TPO that I read Fleetway sunk an awful lot into related advertising/merchandise at the time and when that blew up in their faces it nearly bankrupted the comic.
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: radiator on 02 October, 2014, 06:11:08 PM
QuoteWas Stallone film damage the 2000AD back in 1995?

I believe it's mentioned in Thrill Power Overload!!! that after the Stallone movie flopped there was a lot of negativity at the company that published 2000ad at the time (Egmont?). There had been high hopes riding on it that all came to nothing - a slight bump in sales of 2000ad and the Megazine on the film's release, which then dipped back to normal levels after, then down further.

The Judge Dredd strip itself was almost seen as toxic internally, was relegated to the back pages of 2000ad and apparently the publishers even considered resting it from the comic entirely. I think I'm right in saying that between the Stallone movie's release and the end of the nineties was the closest prog and Meg came to cancellation (I get the impression the Megazine was clinging on by the skin of it's teeth around '96/97) before Rebellion rescued them in 2000.
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: IndigoPrime on 02 October, 2014, 06:18:19 PM
Yep. Hurrah for the Kingsleys really. While it's pretty obvious they didn't buy 2000 AD purely out of the goodness of their hearts (it was a potential goldmine of IP), it's clear that they have plenty of love for the comic they now own. Without them it's pretty obvious we wouldn't be here today (and we wouldn't have had one proper Dredd movie, let alone the slim possibility of a second).
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 October, 2014, 06:24:04 PM


Dredd's stock is considerably higher than it was pre-September 2012, and even before Yesterday's push of enthusiasm, I'm sure any external interest -studio or otherwise- had all ready made itself known in terms of the property's potential post-September 2012. I'd say it's almost inevitable we'll see something...


Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Frank on 02 October, 2014, 06:28:52 PM
Quote from: radiator on 02 October, 2014, 06:11:08 PM
I believe it's mentioned in Thrill Power Overload!!! that after the Stallone movie flopped there was a lot of negativity at the company that published 2000ad at the time (Egmont?). There had been high hopes riding on it that all came to nothing - a slight bump in sales of 2000ad and the Megazine on the film's release, which then dipped back to normal levels after, then down further.

The Judge Dredd strip itself was almost seen as toxic internally, was relegated to the back pages of 2000ad and apparently the publishers even considered resting it from the comic entirely. I think I'm right in saying that between the Stallone movie's release and the end of the nineties was the closest prog and Meg came to cancellation.

That's a perfect retelling of the story presented in David Bishop's brilliant Thrillpower Overload (http://shop.2000adonline.com/products/thrill_power_overload_thirty_years_of_2000ad), but - while I have absolutely no reason to question Darkdays BISH-OP's recollection of events and conversations he experienced directly - the attitude of management towards Dredd following the failure of the 1995 film has really never made any sense to me.

I can see why watching their dreams of another Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles-style multi-media phenomenon go South would have left them disheartened, but spiking what was still one of the most popular strips in the comic doesn't make any business sense. I know Egmont's Dutch management were looking at the plummeting sales and concluding that the title's days were numbered, but it's not as if Dredd was all that was holding it back from recovering readers.


Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 02 October, 2014, 06:31:03 PM
Quote from: radiator on 02 October, 2014, 06:11:08 PM
I believe it's mentioned in Thrill Power Overload!!! that after the Stallone movie flopped there was a lot of negativity at the company that published 2000ad at the time (Egmont?). There had been high hopes riding on it that all came to nothing - a slight bump in sales of 2000ad and the Megazine on the film's release, which then dipped back to normal levels after, then down further.

Egmont didn't like 2000AD, and they didn't know what to do with it — they wanted it to go away, and their strategy was to neglect and under-invest, with the intention (it was strongly suspected) that the moment the title fell below break-even it would either be cancelled or converted into a reprint title. The movie was seen as a lifeline by the 2000AD team — a $70M advertisement for their product that should have rallied the sales and given the editorial team a strong enough platform to defend their product.

Which, of course, was pretty emphatically not what happened...

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Goaty on 02 October, 2014, 06:41:34 PM
Wow, that must be so low point for 2000AD team.
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: JOE SOAP on 02 October, 2014, 06:45:27 PM
Quote from: sauchie co-op on 02 October, 2014, 06:28:52 PM
I can see why watching their dreams of another Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles-style multi-media phenomenon go South would have left them disheartened, but spiking what was still one of the most popular strips in the comic doesn't make any business sense. I know Egmont's Dutch management were looking at the plummeting sales and concluding that the title's days were numbered, but it's not as if Dredd was all that was holding it back from recovering readers.


That was the dark times, before Rebellion... but I believe Egmont might retain a small % of 2000AD, possibly as low as 1%.




Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Bat King on 02 October, 2014, 07:35:58 PM
Seriously without Chris & Jason stepping in I doubt there would be a 2000AD, Judge Dredd Megazine & definitely no Dredd 2012.
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Frank on 02 October, 2014, 07:53:32 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 02 October, 2014, 06:31:03 PM
Egmont didn't like 2000AD, and they didn't know what to do with it — they wanted it to go away, and their strategy was to neglect and under-invest, with the intention (it was strongly suspected) that the moment the title fell below break-even it would either be cancelled or converted into a reprint title.

I suppose what I'm struggling with is why - if Egmont management wanted rid of the comic - they didn't just stop publishing it, rather than trying to engineer its death through benign neglect. I mean, they owned it, and could (presumably) cancel it any time they felt like it without having to pussyfoot around justifying that decision to anybody else.


Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 02 October, 2014, 08:00:35 PM
Quote from: sauchie co-op on 02 October, 2014, 07:53:32 PM
I mean, they owned it, and could (presumably) cancel it any time they felt like it without having to pussyfoot around justifying that decision to anybody else.

You're assuming some kind of homogenous hive mind that was The Egmont Management rather than the series of fiefdoms that is usually the case in large organisations. Just because those with direct control over the 2000AD titles would have been happier to turn them into a reprint farm, generating revenue with almost zero editorial effort required, recycling the IP that was already bought and paid for, doesn't mean that they wouldn't have had to stand in front of someone more senior than them and explain why they'd cancelled a profitable title.

Much better to be able to cover your arse by pointing to red ink at the bottom of the P&L.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Frank on 02 October, 2014, 08:04:31 PM

Yeah, that makes sense. I suspected corporate politics were at the root of it - cheers, Jim.


Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: TordelBack on 02 October, 2014, 08:05:01 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 02 October, 2014, 08:00:35 PM
Much better to be able to cover your arse by pointing to red ink at the bottom of the P&L.

Yup.  All decision making deferred until the accountants call it a day and it's nothing to do with you.  Been there, seen that.
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: shaolin_monkey on 05 October, 2014, 05:43:54 PM
I've put together a mini-round up of the events of the day:

http://2000ad.wordpress.com/2014/10/05/did-you-support-the-day-of-dredd/

A couple of you guys get a mention.  ;)

Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: judda fett on 05 October, 2014, 07:36:52 PM
Good round up, cheers Shaolin. Love that Death/ Anderson photoshop piece too.
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: Proudhuff on 06 October, 2014, 07:43:51 PM
Quote from: radiator on 02 October, 2014, 05:16:15 PM
Quoteit means shrew-like, i think he's having a pop at you!

Hope it wasn't interpreted as such.

Remember how often 2000ad or Dredd would get any kind of media coverage before Molch_R? Clue: pretty much never.

While I don't hold out any hope for a sequel, I agree with IP - it's great that now when people think of Judge Dredd, they think of something culty and cool, not campy and crap.

Just jesting, I'm sure it wasn't. Molch-r has done wonders since taking up the flag, more power to his elbow!!
Title: Re: DAY OF DREDD: 1st October 2014
Post by: mimikeke on 10 October, 2014, 09:30:31 AM
Anyone post up her recent tweets?  Here's one...

(http://i61.tinypic.com/i70n75.jpg)