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: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: The Enigmatic Dr X 06 August, 2010, 12:48:47 PM: Given the frequency of thse things, I wonder if we should have one place to report suspicions? I realise we may get some false positives, but maybe one place to have them is sensible and if there is no problem the report can be deleted?

And, with that, I give you:

http://www.zazzle.co.uk/cultculture/2000ad+gifts (http://www.zazzle.co.uk/cultculture/2000ad+gifts)

Found 'cos I was looking for a mousepad, if any merc-droids are looking on. No mention of official licences.
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: CraveNoir 06 August, 2010, 01:00:51 PM: Found these three sellers the other day. DVDs

http://www.ioffer.com/i/2000-a-d-judge-dredd-40gb-ultimate-collection-dvd-122111489

http://www.ioffer.com/i/judge-dredd-megazine-collection-2000ad-dvd-s-free-p-p-137460223

http://www.ioffer.com/i/064-2000ad-vol-1-1-400-on-2-dvds-judge-dredd-145559795
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: Richmond Clements 06 August, 2010, 01:35:05 PM: Excellent idea for a thread! I think I'll sticky it.
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: radiator 06 August, 2010, 01:38:46 PM: PLEASE NOTE THIS ITEM IS FROM THE PUBLIC DOMAIN.

:lol:
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: SmallBlueThing 06 August, 2010, 02:12:25 PM: : The Enigmatic Dr X 06 August, 2010, 12:48:47 PM

And, with that, I give you:

http://www.zazzle.co.uk/cultculture/2000ad+gifts (http://www.zazzle.co.uk/cultculture/2000ad+gifts)

Is that noise I hear Commando Forces exploding, or ejaculating?

SBT
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: James Stacey 06 August, 2010, 02:15:39 PM: Zazzle is just like Cafepress you can upload anything and they print to order.
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: Professor Bear 06 August, 2010, 02:24:36 PM: I like the optimism they display by doing female versions of that shirt.
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: Dandontdare 06 August, 2010, 02:27:31 PM: They're not exactly stunning designs are they?
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: w3bz 06 August, 2010, 02:30:47 PM: Will make the bosses aware of commendable actions :D
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: The Enigmatic Dr X 06 August, 2010, 03:15:31 PM: : w3bz 06 August, 2010, 02:30:47 PM
Will make the bosses aware of commendable actions :D

Tell them to accept my script submissions, too.
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: BPP 06 August, 2010, 03:16:18 PM: Your going to have a hard time alleging that the word Dredd is a (C) infringement when no design rights (the font) or graphic image is being used. Judge Dredd would be a delimited trademark, Dredd without an illusion to the comic or even comics per say (ie COMICS ICONS #1: DREDD) very unlikely to be one at all (regardless of registering, you would have a hard time advocating to an adjudicator that the term Dredd covers all contexts).

Am off to make mi 'ALPHA' tshirts up now....
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: The Enigmatic Dr X 06 August, 2010, 03:18:36 PM: Isn't Dredd a trademark? If not, then on a site with a url ending "2000ad+gifts" I think it would be shooty-in to show that it was creating sufficient confusion among customers to establish infringement of "Judge Dredd".

The site even uses 2000ad as a meta-tag.

Heck, I found it because I was looking for a Judge Dredd mousepad - how much more do you need?
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: Dandontdare 06 August, 2010, 03:42:02 PM: as discussed elseewhere, there's a pornstar calls himself Dredd - if Rebellion sue him, that's a court case I'd like to sit in on!
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: Richmond Clements 06 August, 2010, 03:50:16 PM: that's a court case I'd like to sit in on!

Expert witness?
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: TordelBack 06 August, 2010, 04:46:08 PM: 'Spurt witness?
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: Richmond Clements 06 August, 2010, 04:46:44 PM: "All rise."
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: Judge Olde 06 August, 2010, 05:28:18 PM: : SmallBlueThing 06 August, 2010, 02:12:25 PM
: The Enigmatic Dr X 06 August, 2010, 12:48:47 PM

And, with that, I give you:

http://www.zazzle.co.uk/cultculture/2000ad+gifts (http://www.zazzle.co.uk/cultculture/2000ad+gifts)

Is that noise I hear Commando Forces exploding, or ejaculating?

SBT

We could all get rich selling CF stuff with just 'Dredd' on, old cars, motorbikes - it could run & run*

*nah
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: BPP 06 August, 2010, 07:42:16 PM: : The Enigmatic Dr X 06 August, 2010, 03:18:36 PM
Isn't Dredd a trademark? If not, then on a site with a url ending "2000ad+gifts" I think it would be shooty-in to show that it was creating sufficient confusion among customers to establish infringement of "Judge Dredd".

The site even uses 2000ad as a meta-tag.

Heck, I found it because I was looking for a Judge Dredd mousepad - how much more do you need?

hadn't seen the URL.

Your friendly legal consul would tell you to go after that rather than the Dredd as its clearly passing-off (a misrepresentation offence) under trading standards.

As to the is Dredd a TM or has Copyright arisen in it - TMs you apply for - that they are granted doesn't mean they will be upheld when either (1) challenged or (2) used to litigate on.

TMs need several criteria including distinctiveness and originality. Judge Dredd would more than likely give rise to one BUT it would be feasible to see that the extent of the TM (where it can be applied) is limited to causes involving comics or visual media / lit. Should Judge Dread (the DJ) have been Judge Dredd in name he may well have been able to argue that the scope of the TM dosn't extend to that - especially if he is not 'borrowing' any other '2000ad' iconography or given that his genre has more than one artist called 'Judge'.

You need to keep the extent of the TM distinct as an idea from misrep / confusion - ie a fish n chip shop called Judge Dredd would be less likely to be allowed as its more obviously misrep (at the very least misrepresenting that they have a licence) although again things like the use of '2000AD's' fonts etc on the shop front would add weight.

Dredd without the judge is yet more difficult to see as a stand alone TM (leaving aside the issue of the name of the site). Obviously someone releasing a comic called 'Son of Dredd' about a future dystopia could have problems even if they avoided 'judge' or references to MC1 etc because the TM may well extend to characters called Dredd in future / law enforcement roles. But would it extend to say a Marvel mutant called Dredd? Maybe not. Am sure people who read more comics than I can come up with characters with the same surname. Must be another Savage out there.

In the opposite direction 'Judge Dredd & the Mutants of Mega City One' is quite clearly enforceable because its greater specificity makes it less likely to be anything other than an unauthorised taking.Of course the problem there is that TMs need registered and rebellion undoubtably dont have a guy doing that for every possible TM.

Hence we have Copyright..

Copyright arises automatically in text but the copyright (protection) of individual words is very problematic - hence the use of Trademarks and the other tools of Intellectual Property (design right, patents) to cover them.

A simple phrase is unlikely ever to give rise to copyright ("i went for a walk") unless it arises and is used as part of a wider work (this reply). Whereas a piece of Wagner prose would clearly generate it time after time. From that you can see why single words are hard to copyright but then why names, in turn, are slightly less hard provided they meet the criteria for copyright including 'originality'.

Does the word Dredd have originality? Anyone with any knowledge of US constitutional law will tell you of Dredd-Scott a very famous case allowing slavery to continue in the C19th. Judge Dredd would have more of a claim to copyright than simple Dredd but again since dredd isn't an entirely fictitious surname (unlike say Judge Quadradbam-SiSpencer ) there may well be an argument as to whether it IS sufficiently original. Again a judge (in our world) would much rather hear arguments on fraudulent passing-off (the misrepresentation) than look into the providence of the copyright. Especially if he's a member of the Dredd family of East Grimsby who has finally fought years of jokes to become a member of the bench.

thats al long answer to say - its complex but yeah that URL means undoubtably they would get shot down but not necessarily for either (C) or TM in 'Dredd'.

Humm.. I could write a very nice seminar problem question on all that.
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: COMMANDO FORCES 06 August, 2010, 07:50:06 PM: I'm in the process of having a small run of tops made with a stitched in Judge badge but with my name across it, so I think I'm safe ;)

As for all the above, I have seen loads of stuff like this over the last few years of searching for any Dredd/2000AD merchandise and have kept well clear of it.
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: Emperor 06 August, 2010, 08:02:53 PM: : The Enigmatic Dr X 06 August, 2010, 03:18:36 PM
Isn't Dredd a trademark? If not, then on a site with a url ending "2000ad+gifts" I think it would be shooty-in to show that it was creating sufficient confusion among customers to establish infringement of "Judge Dredd".

The site even uses 2000ad as a meta-tag.

It doesn't - the metatags are:

<meta name="keywords" content="cultculture" />
<meta name="description" content="" />

The tag cloud is dynamically generated, I suspect, based on keywords people enter to find the goods.

Equally the "2000ad" in the URL is being dynamically generated and doesn't seem to be something the shop is specifically doing to mislead people. It is a little misleading as they are clearly using a trick to create search engine friendly URLs but if you enter "2000ad" in the top search box you get:

http://www.zazzle.co.uk/2000ad+gifts

So they people selling the T-shirts don't seem to be deliberately trying to mislead people.

That said, and talk of copyright and trademark side, you could just hit the site with a cease-and-desist notice (that anyone can put together, you don't need a lawyer) and they'll drop the T-shirts like a shot. Hosts with no incentive to get into expensive legal arguments tend to fold like soggy bog roll (as I found out to my cost once, but have also deployed it against image-stealing toe rags in the past)
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: mogzilla 08 August, 2010, 12:04:33 PM: : TordelBack 06 August, 2010, 04:46:08 PM
triple X'Spurt witness?

fixed that for ya ;)
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: Jim_Campbell 08 August, 2010, 12:39:56 PM: Now, I'm as much for thread drift and off-topic tomfoolery as the next man, but doesn't it kind of defeat the point of the exercise if someone from Rebellion checks this thread and can't easily find the posts relating to actual copyright infringement?

Could we not try and keep the thread strictly to on-topic posts and take any wider debates about, say, copyright law (which I actually do find fascinating) to another thread?

Cheers!

Jim
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: mogzilla 08 August, 2010, 03:15:50 PM: can we keep the tomfoolery please?
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: Judge Olde 17 August, 2010, 03:44:41 PM: I thought I was back at school, however, any tips on getting rich quick - post them here ::)
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: Buttonman 17 August, 2010, 04:54:34 PM: : COMMANDO FORCES 06 August, 2010, 07:50:06 PM
I'm in the process of having a small run of tops made with a stitched in Judge badge but with my name across it.

Hell-Trek uniforms already?!
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: COMMANDO FORCES 17 August, 2010, 05:03:11 PM: :lol: Only if you have my surname. Each name has it's own start up costs. I'm sure there must be a cheaper way. This is where 2000AD could use bulk purchase power to get individual names stitched into tops at a decent rate!
I best put this onto the merchandise thread ;)
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: JeffreyMT 18 August, 2010, 12:55:41 PM: Here is another one on ebay

2000AD Any Prog 1 2 and all others + 32Gb USB pen drive

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110564471400&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Hope the link works, Here is the auction number in case it doesn't: 110564471400
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: James Stacey 18 August, 2010, 01:13:09 PM: : bIG dADDY jEFF 18 August, 2010, 12:55:41 PM

Here is another one on ebay

2000AD Any Prog 1 2 and all others + 32Gb USB pen drive

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110564471400&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Hope the link works, Here is the auction number in case it doesn't: 110564471400
What a cheeky fecker that guy is.
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: JeffreyMT 11 January, 2011, 02:15:02 PM: Are these legal?

Seller has a whole shop full of them!
I thoght Kevin Walker was working for Marvel now...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Judge-Dredd-Oil-Painting-NOT-giclee-Large-40x28-inches-/120525811101?pt=UK_Art_CanvasGiclee_RL&hash=item1c0fe5ed9d

Auction number: 120525811101
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: Alski 11 January, 2011, 02:27:35 PM: Hmmm... I don't know - as long as it's not a direct copy of another artist's specific work, is it legal?

Sure someone will enlighten us.

I quite like it.
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: Jim_Campbell 11 January, 2011, 02:34:30 PM: : Alski 11 January, 2011, 02:27:35 PM
Hmmm... I don't know - as long as it's not a direct copy of another artist's specific work, is it legal?

Looks like a stroke-for-stroke repainting of a Kev Walker panel, to me. Plus, he's offering to reproduce the same work, to order, for a profit. I'm pretty sure that's a copyright infringement.

Cheers

Jim
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: uncle fester 11 January, 2011, 02:43:13 PM: If someone can re-produce pieces to that standard, what are they doing selling knock-offs of other peoples work? Why not just go work for games workshop or something doing your own stuff?

Or have I missed something?
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: davethomson 11 January, 2011, 02:58:33 PM: : uncle fester 11 January, 2011, 02:43:13 PM
If someone can re-produce pieces to that standard, what are they doing selling knock-offs of other peoples work? Why not just go work for games workshop or something doing your own stuff?

Or have I missed something?

That is what makes me suspicious that it is not even an oil painting, just a printed canvas. The are plenty of folk on ebay who print copyrighted photos and designs onto canvas, mount it and flog it cheapo. Wouldn't surprise me if this was just the same but aimed at comics fans.
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: radiator 11 January, 2011, 03:27:47 PM: Looks a bit like one of the BT phone card designs that Kev Walker did around the time of the 1995 movie.

A quick check confirms that yes, it's a rip off:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TABaE0p5QaQ/S84tQiKOLAI/AAAAAAAAAMc/sUnkaNGEQwE/s1600/Card+19a.jpg)
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: Emperor 20 February, 2011, 10:01:28 PM: Not sure if this counts here or if it should be in its own thread titled "more stuff for CF to buy":

www.redbubble.com/people/yayzus/t-shirts/6516992-1-judge-dredd-kitty

Still... Judge Kitty, great idea.
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: COMMANDO FORCES 20 February, 2011, 11:15:24 PM: It would be much better if it was called Judge Pussy :thumbsup:
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: vzzbux 20 February, 2011, 11:50:40 PM: : Emperor 20 February, 2011, 10:01:28 PM
Not sure if this counts here or if it should be in its own thread titled "more stuff for CF to buy":

www.redbubble.com/people/yayzus/t-shirts/6516992-1-judge-dredd-kitty

Still... Judge Kitty, great idea.

I would say that breeches two franchises.

V
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: CrazyFoxMachine 24 February, 2011, 05:37:41 PM: http://www.redbubble.com/people/yayzus/t-shirts/6789494-1-egga-city-one
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: Hoagy 24 February, 2011, 06:00:19 PM: ffeee
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: Colin YNWA 24 February, 2011, 06:27:58 PM: : Emperor 20 February, 2011, 10:01:28 PM

Still... Judge Kitty, great idea.

Yeah saw this this morning and while I accept its a clear copy right infringement (assuming it doesn't have permission) it will service my mission to get my baby daughter into the delights of comics. She already says 'Judredd' when she passes my Carl Critchlow picture on the landing (I'm still working on Missionary Man)
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: Hoagy 24 February, 2011, 06:33:52 PM: : Krombasher 24 February, 2011, 06:00:19 PM
ffeee

Ignore this its a failed post. Sorry.

I meant to comment on the egg-cup designs. Remember the art comp for easter? When we did boiled egg versions of tooth characters?

My one was a Mean Machine one. I tried to get a pic off of facebook but their new system doesn't allow.
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: SmallBlueThing 24 February, 2011, 09:07:10 PM: Weird one this: i was in a shop in town today, and the assistant noticed my dredd lapel badge, and asked if it was from a film or a game or something. I told her it was a comic, and she said, "oh, because i used to get paid by judge dredd productions when i worked for a games company in Ireland." She went on to explain that, while it wasnt the name of the company, it "was the name on our payslips".
How bizarre.
SBT
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: vzzbux 24 February, 2011, 09:20:47 PM: AHHH. That would have been a ghost company to get round certain tax incursions.
Our company used to do the same until the government closed that door. It cost us about £150 a month.
Fucking Tony Blair >:(.

V
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: COMMANDO FORCES 25 February, 2011, 01:31:54 AM: I was bored and so ventured onto ebay, Grud on a greenie Tharg you really need to get a grip.
Cufflinks, fridge magnets, embroidered badges, etc....
Here are a few links

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JUDGE-DREDD-2000AD-Cool-Comic-Patch-Collection-/200579195473?pt=UK_Collectables_Badges_Patches_MJ&hash=item2eb373a251 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JUDGE-DREDD-2000AD-Cool-Comic-Patch-Collection-/200579195473?pt=UK_Collectables_Badges_Patches_MJ&hash=item2eb373a251)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Judge-Dredd-Black-B-G-Cufflinks-Gift-Box-/150502213920?pt=UK_JewelleryWatches_MensJewellery_Cufflinks&hash=item230aa18920 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Judge-Dredd-Black-B-G-Cufflinks-Gift-Box-/150502213920?pt=UK_JewelleryWatches_MensJewellery_Cufflinks&hash=item230aa18920)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Judge-Dredd-2000AD-Fridge-Magnet-Memo-Holder-/260742404297?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_TV_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item3cb57558c9 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Judge-Dredd-2000AD-Fridge-Magnet-Memo-Holder-/260742404297?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_TV_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item3cb57558c9)
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: Colin YNWA 25 February, 2011, 08:17:37 AM: Yeah but how much did you spend?
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: Van Dom 25 February, 2011, 12:13:53 PM: : Emperor 20 February, 2011, 10:01:28 PM
Not sure if this counts here or if it should be in its own thread titled "more stuff for CF to buy":

www.redbubble.com/people/yayzus/t-shirts/6516992-1-judge-dredd-kitty

Still... Judge Kitty, great idea.

That's actually great! I might have to get one of these! Daughter loves Hello Kitty and is aware of Dredd...nice little cross-over here.
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: Emperor 14 March, 2011, 04:21:20 PM: Dredd/Boba Fett:

www.redbubble.com/people/robotrobotrobot/t-shirts/6862636-1-judge-fett

I suspect that, like the Hello Kitty one, this kind of mash-up of iconic images gets through some kind of fair use loop hole by being "transformative" or even a "parody" (which I see is one of the tags on the side of the page).

File under: More goodies for the Cellar of Dredd.
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: TordelBack 14 March, 2011, 04:31:33 PM: Wow! That's shite! (Hopes that no-one reading this involved, but still... it's shite!)
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: COMMANDO FORCES 14 March, 2011, 04:37:01 PM: You can change the colour by clicking on the colour chart, what fun I just had :D
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: Proudhuff 14 March, 2011, 04:47:45 PM: : COMMANDO FORCES 14 March, 2011, 04:37:01 PM
You can change the colour by clicking on the colour chart, what fun I just had :D

You got to get out more CF!
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: Professor Bear 14 March, 2011, 05:42:42 PM: This one is some sort of Judge Dredd knock-off:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51qd3EbmC2L._SL500_AA240_.jpg)
And so is this one, but at least it seems to go to great lengths to cover up the fact:
(http://www.covershut.com/covers/Judge-Dredd-1995-Danish-Front-Cover-17732.jpg)
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: BPP 12 April, 2011, 01:14:46 PM: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Dredd-2000AD-Bullet-USB-Drive-Choice-Sizes-Colours-/250782314467?pt=UK_SportingGoods_OtherSports&var=&hash=item80101781ed

am guessing this wasn't licensed?
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: ming 15 April, 2011, 07:45:35 AM: Er, is there much demand for this kind of thing?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Johnny-Alpha-Tax-Disc-Holder-REUSEABLE-/260745679418?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_TV_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item3cb5a7523a

And this one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Johnny-Alpha-Claw-Bottle-Opener-Keyring-/250785374222?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3a63f9200e
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: Misanthrope 15 April, 2011, 10:38:22 AM: : SmallBlueThing 24 February, 2011, 09:07:10 PM
Weird one this: i was in a shop in town today, and the assistant noticed my dredd lapel badge, and asked if it was from a film or a game or something. I told her it was a comic, and she said, "oh, because i used to get paid by judge dredd productions when i worked for a games company in Ireland." She went on to explain that, while it wasnt the name of the company, it "was the name on our payslips".
How bizarre.
SBT

A 'Judge Dredd Company' were bought by 'Doom Troopers Corporation' in 2007. I wonder if it is the same people?
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: kraken 17 April, 2011, 02:18:54 AM: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VINTAGE-JUDGE-DREDD-CUSHION-RARE-16-/380326552934?pt=UK_Toys_Creative_Educational_RL&hash=item588d3aa566

:-*
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: COMMANDO FORCES 17 April, 2011, 03:57:39 AM: It seems as though they have just cut up the material from the quilt covers to make loads of those!
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: The Adventurer 18 April, 2011, 07:29:41 PM: I wasn't sure where to put this, but I think this must be right. I was reading my monthly comic alotment and got into some of my Image Comics. On the back of a lot of them is an advertisment for Robert Kirkman's new All-Ages book Super Dinosaur. While I was admiringn the artwork of Jason Howard, my eyes were drawn to the chest logo Super Dinosaur sports...

(http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/3137/superdinocoverxlarge.jpg)

(http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/3051/superdinosaur1.jpg)

Look familiar? Like the certain badage a certain mutant bounty hunter sports? I'm sure its unintentional, but I thought it was a little odd how similar it looks.
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: Emperor 18 April, 2011, 08:57:08 PM: : The Adventurer 18 April, 2011, 07:29:41 PM
I wasn't sure where to put this, but I think this must be right. I was reading my monthly comic alotment and got into some of my Image Comics. On the back of a lot of them is an advertisment for Robert Kirkman's new All-Ages book Super Dinosaur. While I was admiringn the artwork of Jason Howard, my eyes were drawn to the chest logo Super Dinosaur sports...

...

Look familiar? Like the certain badage a certain mutant bounty hunter sports? I'm sure its unintentional, but I thought it was a little odd how similar it looks.

Mentioned here before:

http://www.2000adonline.com/forum/index.php/topic,31914.0.html
http://www.2000adonline.com/forum/index.php/topic,31421.msg571803.html#msg571803
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: The Adventurer 18 April, 2011, 09:10:36 PM: : Emperor 18 April, 2011, 08:57:08 PM

Mentioned here before:

http://www.2000adonline.com/forum/index.php/topic,31914.0.html
http://www.2000adonline.com/forum/index.php/topic,31421.msg571803.html#msg571803
Hmm, fair enough. But that badge they used to compare... I was more reacting to this badge from the spine of the Agency Files...

(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/6426/sdspine.png)

Which, except from the little tab on the bottom of the Strontium Dog 'S', is bang on identical.
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: Misanthrope 18 April, 2011, 09:26:55 PM: (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Q4XGKPA0L._SS500_.jpg)

This belongs to Scooby Doo.

I think it is just a coincidence.
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: Emperor 18 April, 2011, 09:36:53 PM: : The Adventurer 18 April, 2011, 09:10:36 PM
: Emperor 18 April, 2011, 08:57:08 PM

Mentioned here before:

http://www.2000adonline.com/forum/index.php/topic,31914.0.html
http://www.2000adonline.com/forum/index.php/topic,31421.msg571803.html#msg571803
Hmm, fair enough. But that badge they used to compare... I was more reacting to this badge from the spine of the Agency Files...

...

Which, except from the little tab on the bottom of the Strontium Dog 'S', is bang on identical.

Hmmmmmm that is good. I think I punted it over to Rich Johnston for a Swipe File but with that other badge. I might give it another go with this.
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: Colin YNWA 22 April, 2011, 12:55:04 PM: And its finally made it onto Bleeding cool (I assume tanks to Emperor)

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/04/22/swipe-file-super-dinosaur-vs-strontium-dog/ (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/04/22/swipe-file-super-dinosaur-vs-strontium-dog/)
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: Emperor 22 April, 2011, 01:22:15 PM: : Colin_YNWA 22 April, 2011, 12:55:04 PM
I assume tanks to Emperor

Well I did send this over to Rich when it first popped up on here but did send it again thanks to the above post. However, Rich said someone else (someone a little more... important shall we say) had contacted him about it, presumably with the examples he used there. So they get the credit for that one.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Misanthrope 09 May, 2011, 03:48:38 AM: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2000-AD-Digital-Comics-collection-Judge-Dredd-/160573108580?pt=UK_Books_comics_Magazines_UK_Comics_ET&hash=item2562e73164#ht_500wt_950 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2000-AD-Digital-Comics-collection-Judge-Dredd-/160573108580?pt=UK_Books_comics_Magazines_UK_Comics_ET&hash=item2562e73164#ht_500wt_950)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Emperor 09 May, 2011, 02:55:17 PM: Anyone can report such things on eBay, so if you spot anything like that then fire away. They also have a complete Megazine listing.

I assume you go for: Counterfeits and breach of copyright >> Bootleg and counterfeit media >> Media on recordable formats
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Emperor 17 May, 2011, 03:00:55 PM: Lego Judge Death t-shirt:

www.redbubble.com/people/robgoodfellow/t-shirts/5380679-lego-judge-death

There is a tonne of stuff although nothing seems a direct lift of 2000 AD art:

www.redbubble.com/explore/judge+dredd

I am amused to see something I made there:

www.redbubble.com/people/maclac/t-shirts/7106015-rogue-trooper-souther-insignia
www.redbubble.com/people/maclac/t-shirts/7106050-rogue-trooper-nort-insignia

I made them for Wikipedia and they do appear to be those specific ones because the Souther arrow always annoyed me because it is slightly wonky:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norts
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Molch-R 17 May, 2011, 03:16:44 PM: : Emperor 17 May, 2011, 03:00:55 PM
There is a tonne of stuff although nothing seems a direct lift of 2000 AD art:

Ta. Already noted and in hand, I believe.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: mygrimmbrother 17 May, 2011, 03:17:34 PM: I'd love one of those Souther insignia Tees on khaki though.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Emperor 17 May, 2011, 03:58:43 PM: : mygrimmbrother 17 May, 2011, 03:17:34 PM
I'd love one of those Souther insignia Tees on khaki though.

Well it might be time to lobby Rebellion for them. I have those insignia in a format that can easily be vectorised so they can be tidied up (and the Souther one made symmetrical), so it probably wouldn't require much effort for them to get the designs done...
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jim_Campbell 17 May, 2011, 04:34:51 PM: : Misanthrope 09 May, 2011, 03:48:38 AM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2000-AD-Digital-Comics-collection-Judge-Dredd-/160573108580?pt=UK_Books_comics_Magazines_UK_Comics_ET&hash=item2562e73164#ht_500wt_950 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2000-AD-Digital-Comics-collection-Judge-Dredd-/160573108580?pt=UK_Books_comics_Magazines_UK_Comics_ET&hash=item2562e73164#ht_500wt_950)

"The seller has re-listed this item."

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160588121428#ht_500wt_1156

Oh, good, because I've reported it again.

Cheers

Jim
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: John Caliber 21 May, 2011, 05:21:40 AM: The queer thing about rhe Super Dinosaur 'SD' swipe is that it would have taken less time to draw the letters than copy, paste and resize the Rebellion graphic for each panel.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: The Adventurer 21 May, 2011, 07:17:41 AM: : John Caliber 21 May, 2011, 05:21:40 AM
The queer thing about rhe Super Dinosaur 'SD' swipe is that it would have taken less time to draw the letters than copy, paste and resize the Rebellion graphic for each panel.
I'm not sure anyone is saying the artist literally traced the logo every time it appears. That would be silly. The design is just oddly similar.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: John Caliber 21 May, 2011, 08:12:59 AM: It's exactly the same graphic in each of the three panels shown in the above link.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: The Adventurer 21 May, 2011, 08:39:14 AM: Well, he's probably using a reusable vector graphic to save time in the digital finishing touches. Also to keep the logo consistent.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: vzzbux 22 May, 2011, 09:56:22 AM: From the Red Bubble T-Shirt site I would say this image is a mish mash of The MacNeil droid and The Williams droid. Visor cross and nose don't marry up.

http://www.redbubble.com/people/masonpan/art/1060883-judge-dredd

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: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Dandontdare 22 May, 2011, 12:49:02 PM: : vzzbux 22 May, 2011, 09:56:22 AM
From the Red Bubble T-Shirt site I would say this image is a mish mash of The MacNeil droid and The Williams droid. Visor cross and nose don't marry up.

http://www.redbubble.com/people/masonpan/art/1060883-judge-dredd

urgh, that's horrible!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Emperor 17 June, 2011, 02:43:16 AM: Might have come up elsewhere - a model of the "Hammerstein" robot from the Judge Dredd film going for 400 Euros:

http://spaceart.de/produkte/jd007-e.php
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: COMMANDO FORCES 17 June, 2011, 02:49:59 AM: Christ on a bike, I have two of those built & painted and one still boxed and they cost a lot less than that rip off price :o
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Mardroid 17 June, 2011, 08:33:14 PM: During the movie the villain Rico (Armand Assante) gets a discarded archaic ABC war robot from the last Hammerstein war at a pawnshop.

Eh?

That's a great model though. And that robot was one of the things that film actually did well.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: BPP 17 June, 2011, 10:24:02 PM: from that same red-bubble 'i can't draw' fella

Oh look.. he's suddenly managed to draw exactly like Bryan Talbot

http://www.redbubble.com/people/masonpan/art/1142956-joe-pineapples (http://www.redbubble.com/people/masonpan/art/1142956-joe-pineapples)

people are such dicks.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Beaky Smoochies 18 June, 2011, 05:09:12 AM: Man, that ABC Warrior robot model is amazing looking, Mardroid is spot-on, it was the very few things (alongside the Mega-City One skyline and Mean Machine Angel) the 1995 movie managed to get right. Ironically, this actually might fit in even more with the new Dredd movies, gritty but still futuristic, and a completely photo-realistic CGI Hammerstein would be much better and more agile than the hulking animatronic used in the aforementioned 1995 movie, look at the robots in District 9, say no more...
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: COMMANDO FORCES 23 June, 2011, 07:27:44 PM: Are these people allowed to sell the ABC Warrior head from the other movie. I wonder if it effects 2000AD as the figure is from the comic first!

http://goldenarmor.com/judge-dredd-abc-warrior/ (http://goldenarmor.com/judge-dredd-abc-warrior/)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: johnnystress 15 July, 2011, 12:37:50 PM: Has this been posted?
http://rcalla.otherpeoplespixels.com/section/122561_Dredd_Behind_Glass.html
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Dandontdare 15 July, 2011, 01:11:27 PM: That looks pretty blatant - he's just taken some prog-images splashed on a bit of paint and framed them.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: johnnystress 15 July, 2011, 02:14:23 PM: It's a pretty clever idea, Dredd arresting various well know graffiti artists..but if he's passing it off as his work and profiting from it...well...
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Dandontdare 15 July, 2011, 02:27:12 PM: just noticed that the website is quite honestly-titled!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: vzzbux 02 August, 2011, 02:23:58 PM: These E-Bay Man United and Liverpool Dredd T-Shirts.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MAN-UNITED-JUDGE-DREDD-SCREENPRINT-T-SHIRT-4-COLS-/120744031228?pt=UK_Men_s_T_Shirts&var=&hash=item61cc1689ff
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LIVERPOOL-JUDGE-DREDD-SCREENPRINT-T-SHIRT-4-COLS-/120744039930?pt=UK_Men_s_T_Shirts&var=&hash=item61cc169d9a

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: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: James Stacey 02 August, 2011, 03:33:40 PM: : vzzbux 02 August, 2011, 02:23:58 PM
These E-Bay Man United and Liverpool Dredd T-Shirts.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MAN-UNITED-JUDGE-DREDD-SCREENPRINT-T-SHIRT-4-COLS-/120744031228?pt=UK_Men_s_T_Shirts&var=&hash=item61cc1689ff
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LIVERPOOL-JUDGE-DREDD-SCREENPRINT-T-SHIRT-4-COLS-/120744039930?pt=UK_Men_s_T_Shirts&var=&hash=item61cc169d9a

V

Yuk .. just looks like a spelling mistake
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: CraveNoir 05 August, 2011, 01:27:56 PM: Seen this "Gaze into the fist of Dredd" copy?
Interesting after what Bolland said about the artist who ripped his Tank Girl cover.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Oil-beautiful-rendition-Brushstrokes-available/dp/B0054PPFAG/
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: A.Cow 18 August, 2011, 03:20:30 AM: To flip the thread on its head, I thought it'd be nice to show some non-infringement merchandise -- a bright ray of sunshine among the rip-off tat to give us hope that things are still done the right way by some people.

This appears to be fully licensed by Egmont back in 1995 (see top of large helmet badge). It has (what I presume is) original artwork, and it's nicely composed, too. Anybody know the artist(s)?

http://www.premierlampshades.co.uk/Childrens-Lights/Judge-Dredd-Drum-Lampshades.htm (http://www.premierlampshades.co.uk/Childrens-Lights/Judge-Dredd-Drum-Lampshades.htm)

(http://www.premierlampshades.co.uk/Childrens-Lights/Images/Judge-Dredd-Drum-Shade.jpg)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: TordelBack 18 August, 2011, 08:33:36 AM: : A.Cow 18 August, 2011, 03:20:30 AM
Anybody know the artist(s)?

The art is fascinating - it's like Robin Smith inked/coloured by Ian Gibson, but presumably it's not.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: COMMANDO FORCES 18 August, 2011, 09:52:48 AM: It's the same design as the wallpaper and border!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Steve Green 18 August, 2011, 10:43:03 AM: Think it's McMahon (at least partially) on the left, and Geoff Senior.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Steve Green 18 August, 2011, 11:24:55 AM: Or Jeff Anderson?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Steven Sterlacchini 18 August, 2011, 11:31:29 AM: It looks based on Robin Smith to me?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Colin YNWA 18 August, 2011, 11:36:11 AM: Thought I recognised it and Barney confirmed a pretty exact copy of the cover of Prog 374

http://www.2000ad.org/functions/cover.php?choice=374&Comic=2000ad (http://www.2000ad.org/functions/cover.php?choice=374&Comic=2000ad)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Steven Sterlacchini 18 August, 2011, 11:37:27 AM: Yep.

Image from Barney.
(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/hires/374.jpg)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Steve Green 18 August, 2011, 12:08:14 PM: Yeah, just reminded me a lot of some of the artwork in the democracy storyline with Kraken. That's my excuse anyway... :)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Emperor 24 August, 2011, 01:04:31 PM: This can't be legal - £30 for a framed print of a Flesh panel (or is this OK if you take the actual page and frame it?):

http://www.etsy.com/listing/77904555/framed-bookplate-from-1989-2000-adhttp://www.etsy.com/listing/77904555/framed-bookplate-from-1989-2000-ad

They have others:

http://www.etsy.com/listing/78082749/framed-bookplate-from-1989-2000-ad
http://www.etsy.com/listing/77867907/framed-bookplate-from-1988-judge-dredd
http://www.etsy.com/listing/77836950/framed-bookplate-from-1988-judge-dredd
http://www.etsy.com/listing/77960649/framed-bookplate-from-1983-judge-dredd
http://www.etsy.com/listing/77953362/framed-bookplate-from-1983-judge-
http://www.etsy.com/listing/77947552/framed-bookplate-from-1983-judge-dredd
http://www.etsy.com/listing/77904155/framed-bookplate-from-1989-2000-ad
http://www.etsy.com/listing/77836894/framed-bookplate-from-1989-2000-ad
http://www.etsy.com/listing/77835681/framed-bookplate-from-1989-2000-ad
http://www.etsy.com/listing/77708450/framed-bookplate-from-1988-judge-dredd
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: TordelBack 24 August, 2011, 01:32:27 PM: "Look, Ma, I done gone photeecopeed some reprint reel good and now they's gonna send me monee!".

In my day a bookplate was that thing people stuck on the inside cover to show a book had been won as a perfect attendance prize in Sunday School...

Report, report, report.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: pauljholden 24 August, 2011, 01:54:26 PM: : Emperor 24 August, 2011, 01:04:31 PM
This can't be legal - £30 for a framed print of a Flesh panel (or is this OK if you take the actual page and frame it?):

http://www.etsy.com/listing/77904555/framed-bookplate-from-1989-2000-adhttp://www.etsy.com/listing/77904555/framed-bookplate-from-1989-2000-ad

They have others:

http://www.etsy.com/listing/78082749/framed-bookplate-from-1989-2000-ad
http://www.etsy.com/listing/77867907/framed-bookplate-from-1988-judge-dredd
http://www.etsy.com/listing/77836950/framed-bookplate-from-1988-judge-dredd
http://www.etsy.com/listing/77960649/framed-bookplate-from-1983-judge-dredd
http://www.etsy.com/listing/77953362/framed-bookplate-from-1983-judge-
http://www.etsy.com/listing/77947552/framed-bookplate-from-1983-judge-dredd
http://www.etsy.com/listing/77904155/framed-bookplate-from-1989-2000-ad
http://www.etsy.com/listing/77836894/framed-bookplate-from-1989-2000-ad
http://www.etsy.com/listing/77835681/framed-bookplate-from-1989-2000-ad
http://www.etsy.com/listing/77708450/framed-bookplate-from-1988-judge-dredd

Depends on exactly what they're doing, but I *think* they're basically cutting the art out of an annual and framing it - which I don't think is illegal. Buyer beware though.
: Some pretty cool 2000AD garments.
: Keef Monkey 24 August, 2011, 08:45:22 PM: Some of these look pretty snazzy (although they don't seem official), I'm a little tempted by the Nort logo because you don't see Rogue t-shirts too often. Apologies if this site is old news, I've just discovered it.

http://www.redbubble.com/explore/judge+dredd (http://www.redbubble.com/explore/judge+dredd)
: Re: Some pretty cool 2000AD garments.
: Molch-R 24 August, 2011, 09:06:04 PM: They're not official, and we'd rather people didn't encourage copyright theft by supporting them...
: Re: Some pretty cool 2000AD garments.
: Keef Monkey 24 August, 2011, 09:21:44 PM: Sorry, I figured if they were selling them then there must be some sort of agreement in place, and if not then at least any copyright theft was being flagged up in the right place.
: Re: Some pretty cool 2000AD garments.
: Molch-R 24 August, 2011, 10:36:28 PM: : Keef Monkey 24 August, 2011, 09:21:44 PM
Sorry, I figured if they were selling them then there must be some sort of agreement in place, and if not then at least any copyright theft was being flagged up in the right place.

No, unless you hear about it at 2000adonline.com then they're not official. We're aware of this site and are in discussion with them.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Emperor 26 August, 2011, 01:11:12 PM: A print of Judge Dredd on a vespa:

http://www.etsy.com/listing/80452808/judge-dredd-riding-a-vespa-5x5-print

Etsy also has some badges:

http://www.etsy.com/listing/79320227/im-the-good-fairy-badge-button
http://www.etsy.com/listing/76316367/dredd-button-badges

Although they may be made from cut up progs, so (while a scary concept) I'm not sure where that stands legally.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Emperor 22 September, 2011, 04:03:34 PM: Back to Redbubble and I stumbled across this (it doesn't come up in the general Judge Dredd search mentioned above), it is lovely and all but selling prints and cards based on it might be going too far:

http://www.redbubble.com/people/pleydo74/art/6114427-the-dark-judges

We've also been over this site a few times and there is a lot of 2000AD material on there, but I thought I'd flag these more obvious examples as they seem to be trademark infringements as well as copyright ones, which could also have a direct impact on sales of official merchandise (all from the same user who seems to specialise in loos and the like):

http://www.redbubble.com/people/ideedido/t-shirts/7602065-abc-warriors
http://www.redbubble.com/people/ideedido/t-shirts/7606786-ro-busters
http://www.redbubble.com/people/ideedido/t-shirts/7604945-strontium-dog
http://www.redbubble.com/people/ideedido/t-shirts/7605045-2000ad-v2

Possibly not falling within your purview:

http://www.redbubble.com/people/ideedido/t-shirts/7605092-doomlord

On similar unclear remit lines there is the complete Judge Dredd film on YouTube but I don't know if Rebellion have a dog in that fight either:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWhUh8RkRfg
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Colin YNWA 22 September, 2011, 04:51:54 PM: Wow the trouble is they're blooming great tee-shirts. I wish Rebellion would so subtly ones like the 2000ad logo etc. Looks great. Naughty and all that but great...
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Alski 22 September, 2011, 05:46:36 PM: : Colin_YNWA 22 September, 2011, 04:51:54 PM
Wow the trouble is they're blooming great tee-shirts. I wish Rebellion would so subtly ones like the 2000ad logo etc. Looks great. Naughty and all that but great...

I agree... better get one before he is jumped on!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: vzzbux 22 September, 2011, 07:37:08 PM: : Alski 22 September, 2011, 05:46:36 PM
: Colin_YNWA 22 September, 2011, 04:51:54 PM
Wow the trouble is they're blooming great tee-shirts. I wish Rebellion would so subtly ones like the 2000ad logo etc. Looks great. Naughty and all that but great...

I agree... better get one before he is jumped on!
Yeh feed the bootleggers ::)

V
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Emperor 22 September, 2011, 08:37:54 PM: : vzzbux 22 September, 2011, 07:37:08 PM
: Alski 22 September, 2011, 05:46:36 PM
: Colin_YNWA 22 September, 2011, 04:51:54 PM
Wow the trouble is they're blooming great tee-shirts. I wish Rebellion would so subtly ones like the 2000ad logo etc. Looks great. Naughty and all that but great...

I agree... better get one before he is jumped on!
Yeh feed the bootleggers ::)

Urmmm yes, this thread isn't free ad space for unauthorised merchandise.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Patrick 15 October, 2011, 07:35:24 AM: Brian Bolland blogs (http://brianbolland.blogspot.com/2011/10/limited-edition-prints-for-sale-but-not.html) about some guy who's selling prints of his Judge Dredd artwork.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: james newell 15 October, 2011, 01:10:29 PM: : Emperor 24 August, 2011, 01:04:31 PM
This can't be legal - £30 for a framed print of a Flesh panel (or is this OK if you take the actual page and frame it?):

http://www.etsy.com/listing/77904555/framed-bookplate-from-1989-2000-adhttp://www.etsy.com/listing/77904555/framed-bookplate-from-1989-2000-ad

They have others:

http://www.etsy.com/listing/78082749/framed-bookplate-from-1989-2000-ad
http://www.etsy.com/listing/77867907/framed-bookplate-from-1988-judge-dredd
http://www.etsy.com/listing/77836950/framed-bookplate-from-1988-judge-dredd
http://www.etsy.com/listing/77960649/framed-bookplate-from-1983-judge-dredd
http://www.etsy.com/listing/77953362/framed-bookplate-from-1983-judge-
http://www.etsy.com/listing/77947552/framed-bookplate-from-1983-judge-dredd
http://www.etsy.com/listing/77904155/framed-bookplate-from-1989-2000-ad
http://www.etsy.com/listing/77836894/framed-bookplate-from-1989-2000-ad
http://www.etsy.com/listing/77835681/framed-bookplate-from-1989-2000-ad
http://www.etsy.com/listing/77708450/framed-bookplate-from-1988-judge-dredd

regarding these items only, i am pretty sure this is perfectly ok to do as long as they are the original pages from the books and not further printings, just as i would be perfectly entitled to get the best price for a issue of 2000ad (if i was ever crazy enough to sell them, again!), or in this case a single page, the person appears to be adding value by framing and mounting the peaces.

I really have no connection to this person but i thing they look really nice, i have the Bolland cover (and comic) of the eagle Judge Dredd Comic 22 framed myself, really nice illo & design with the big bold JD logo.

http://connect.collectorz.com/comics/database/judge-dredd-vol-1/22-58058

If i am wrong in this i would be very surprised.
j
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: SmallBlueThing 15 October, 2011, 02:15:00 PM: Not an ip infringement at all, but flicking through the latest Fortean Times, i was amused by the cover to THE DISCIPLES, published by REVENGE INK, and its echoing of Cradlegrave.

Cant linky here, so you'll have to Google it im afraid.

SBT
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Mardroid 15 October, 2011, 03:17:00 PM: : SmallBlueThing 15 October, 2011, 02:15:00 PM
Not an ip infringement at all, but flicking through the latest Fortean Times, i was amused by the cover to THE DISCIPLES, published by REVENGE INK, and its echoing of Cradlegrave.

One Google later...

I see what you mean.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41rUelWwwhL._SL500_AA300_.jpg) (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Disciples-Novel-Apocalypse-Gopal-Mukerjee/dp/0956511953)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Patrick 16 October, 2011, 07:37:30 AM: The guy who's ripping off Brian Bolland (and Dave Gibbons, and Mike McMahon, and Carlos Ezquerra) art, turns out is called Russell Singler, who runs a company called Art You Grew Up With (http://artyougrewupwith.com/Character/2000AD), which, also sells prints of the Mr Men, Paddington Bear, Peppa Pig and all sorts of others. According to Bolland (http://brianbolland.blogspot.com/2011/10/httpartyougrewupwithcomrussimagesayguw2.html), he has no licence with Rebellion and does not pay the artists, but he sells through Amazon (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/browse.html?ie=UTF8&marketplaceID=A1F83G8C2ARO7P&me=A2NQKVO124LVZ1), House of Fraser (http://www.houseoffraser.co.uk/Art+You+Grew+Up+With/BRAND_ART%20YOU%20GREW%20UP%20WITH,default,sc.html) and Selfridges. I suspect an appropriately worded legal letter to any of those outlets would settle his hash.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Alski 16 October, 2011, 09:26:15 AM: Wow... I am amazed he can be so blatant and get away with it.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: A.Cow 17 October, 2011, 03:58:32 AM: : Alski 16 October, 2011, 09:26:15 AM
Wow... I am amazed he can be so blatant and get away with it.

Roy Lichtenstein got away with it for years -- without giving any credit to the original artists. At the risk of being corrected by any art historians here, I presume he made a fair amount of money off the back of "adapting" the work of others.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Colin YNWA 17 October, 2011, 01:09:01 PM: Brian Bolland has in fact confirmed that the bloke does have a license with Rebellion and therefore what the site doing is legit.

http://brianbolland.blogspot.com/2011/10/art-you-grew-up-with.html (http://brianbolland.blogspot.com/2011/10/art-you-grew-up-with.html)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Dandontdare 21 October, 2011, 07:58:01 PM: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-Judge-Dredds-Shield-2000AD-Large-Patch-/200578259941?_trksid=p4340.m1374&_trkparms=algo%3DPI.WATCH%26its%3DC%252BS%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D3638139233468365950 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-Judge-Dredds-Shield-2000AD-Large-Patch-/200578259941?_trksid=p4340.m1374&_trkparms=algo%3DPI.WATCH%26its%3DC%252BS%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D3638139233468365950)

I thought I remembered this as a genuine spin-off from back in the day, but judging by the extensive range of other patches, probably a rip-off (am I bad person cos I might still order one?)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: SpetsnaZ99 22 October, 2011, 08:00:58 AM: : Dandontdare 21 October, 2011, 07:58:01 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-Judge-Dredds-Shield-2000AD-Large-Patch-/200578259941?_trksid=p4340.m1374&_trkparms=algo%3DPI.WATCH%26its%3DC%252BS%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D3638139233468365950 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-Judge-Dredds-Shield-2000AD-Large-Patch-/200578259941?_trksid=p4340.m1374&_trkparms=algo%3DPI.WATCH%26its%3DC%252BS%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D3638139233468365950)

I thought I remembered this as a genuine spin-off from back in the day, but judging by the extensive range of other patches, probably a rip-off (am I bad person cos I might still order one?)

They do more just Dredd patch

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-2000AD-Cool-Comic-Patch-Collection-/200579195473 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-2000AD-Cool-Comic-Patch-Collection-/200579195473)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: vzzbux 22 October, 2011, 03:16:57 PM: : Dandontdare 21 October, 2011, 07:58:01 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-Judge-Dredds-Shield-2000AD-Large-Patch-/200578259941?_trksid=p4340.m1374&_trkparms=algo%3DPI.WATCH%26its%3DC%252BS%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D3638139233468365950 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-Judge-Dredds-Shield-2000AD-Large-Patch-/200578259941?_trksid=p4340.m1374&_trkparms=algo%3DPI.WATCH%26its%3DC%252BS%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D3638139233468365950)

I thought I remembered this as a genuine spin-off from back in the day, but judging by the extensive range of other patches, probably a rip-off (am I bad person cos I might still order one?)
I wouldn't bother. They look cheap and tacky. Also don't feed the bootleggers.

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: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: COMMANDO FORCES 22 October, 2011, 05:05:44 PM: That bloke sells a lot of 2000AD original art as well :o
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: A.Cow 22 October, 2011, 05:11:16 PM: : Dandontdare 21 October, 2011, 07:58:01 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-2000AD-Cool-Comic-Patch-Collection-/200579195473 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-2000AD-Cool-Comic-Patch-Collection-/200579195473)

This is surely a trademark issue, not a copyright one?

This company has set out benefit from the visual identity of a wide number of brands, not the creative work that went into designing them.

Besides, if you steal a quantity of information from a single source, then that's plagiarism; by contrast, if you steal many small pieces (e.g. phrases rather than sentences) from a wide variety of sources, then that's research. This business is clearly falling into the latter style of 'stealing', and I don't see it as a big deal.

If these were heavy metal band logos then nobody would be batting an eyelid.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: vzzbux 23 October, 2011, 08:04:29 AM: : A.Cow 22 October, 2011, 05:11:16 PM
: Dandontdare 21 October, 2011, 07:58:01 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-2000AD-Cool-Comic-Patch-Collection-/200579195473 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-2000AD-Cool-Comic-Patch-Collection-/200579195473)

This is surely a trademark issue, not a copyright one?

This company has set out benefit from the visual identity of a wide number of brands, not the creative work that went into designing them.

Besides, if you steal a quantity of information from a single source, then that's plagiarism; by contrast, if you steal many small pieces (e.g. phrases rather than sentences) from a wide variety of sources, then that's research. This business is clearly falling into the latter style of 'stealing', and I don't see it as a big deal.

If these were heavy metal band logos then nobody would be batting an eyelid.
So if someone was profiteering from something you owned you wouldn't mind?

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: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: A.Cow 23 October, 2011, 11:18:48 PM: : vzzbux 23 October, 2011, 08:04:29 AM
So if someone was profiteering from something you owned you wouldn't mind?

So Andy Warhol should pay royalties to Marilyn Monroe, or to Campbell's? There has to be a sensible limit, which is why so many countries have "fair use" rules.

If it was a character drawing being copied you could argue that this is taking money out of somebody's hands. It's not. It's a collection of logos, and any creative copyrights to those logos were signed-over at the point of creation specifically because they are created to be used wholesale for promotion.

Rebellion are only likely to complain about this kind of free advertising if it brings the brand into disrepute.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: The Enigmatic Dr X 23 October, 2011, 11:36:57 PM: : A.Cow 23 October, 2011, 11:18:48 PM
: vzzbux 23 October, 2011, 08:04:29 AM
So if someone was profiteering from something you owned you wouldn't mind?

If it was a character drawing being copied you could argue that this is taking money out of somebody's hands. It's not. It's a collection of logos, and any creative copyrights to those logos were signed-over at the point of creation specifically because they are created to be used wholesale for promotion.

Rebellion are only likely to complain about this kind of free advertising if it brings the brand into disrepute.

2000ad is a registered trademark. A failure to take steps to enforce a trademark can lead to erosion of the rights associated with it. So, while I appreciate the "free advertising" angle there is also a limit to the extent this can be permitted.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: vzzbux 24 October, 2011, 05:41:55 PM: @ A.COW.
You didn't answer my question.
So if someone was profiteering from something you owned you wouldn't mind?
But I know your answer will be no from your reaction.
If it was me I would be totally pissed.

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: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: vzzbux 28 November, 2011, 09:35:54 PM: Don't remember seeing these advertised.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-AD-GRAPHIC-T-SHIRT-NEW-MENS-WOMENS-SIZES-COLOURS-AVAILABLE-/280769558628?pt=UK_Men_s_T_Shirts&var=&hash=item870dfb2385
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000AD-Judge-Dredd-Lawgiver-Lawmaster-Comic-Blaster-Pistol-Gun-1-1-Scale-Kit-/230684723934?pt=US_Comics_Apparel_and_Accessories&hash=item35b5e18ade

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: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Dandontdare 28 November, 2011, 09:40:58 PM: : vzzbux 28 November, 2011, 09:35:54 PM
Don't remember seeing these advertised.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-AD-GRAPHIC-T-SHIRT-NEW-MENS-WOMENS-SIZES-COLOURS-AVAILABLE-/280769558628?pt=UK_Men_s_T_Shirts&var=&hash=item870dfb2385
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000AD-Judge-Dredd-Lawgiver-Lawmaster-Comic-Blaster-Pistol-Gun-1-1-Scale-Kit-/230684723934?pt=US_Comics_Apparel_and_Accessories&hash=item35b5e18ade

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That t-shirt photo's fake - it's just a comic image pasted over a photo of a bloke in a white t-shirt. He's basically saying "I haven't made it yet, but I could iron THIS image on to a T-shirt for you. Or you could, y'know do it yourself. Legally". And what the drokk is a 'lawgiver lawmaster comic blaster pistol gun'? *sigh*
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: SmallBlueThing 03 March, 2012, 01:38:34 PM: I'm not sure if we've discussed these- but there are a lot of them about. What's the current thinking? Other than "never in a million years!" obviously.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tharg-The-Mighty-Lambert-Surhone/dp/6135254375/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1330781690&sr=8-8

SBT
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Alski 03 March, 2012, 02:45:07 PM: : SmallBlueThing 03 March, 2012, 01:38:34 PM
I'm not sure if we've discussed these- but there are a lot of them about. What's the current thinking? Other than "never in a million years!" obviously.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tharg-The-Mighty-Lambert-Surhone/dp/6135254375/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1330781690&sr=8-8

SBT

I really don't understand what would be in it. I mean, how many wiki articles have there been on Tharg?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: COMMANDO FORCES 03 March, 2012, 02:49:18 PM: An excellent read, even if a few facts were incorrect ;)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Emperor 04 March, 2012, 12:40:16 PM: : SmallBlueThing 03 March, 2012, 01:38:34 PM
I'm not sure if we've discussed these- but there are a lot of them about. What's the current thinking? Other than "never in a million years!" obviously.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tharg-The-Mighty-Lambert-Surhone/dp/6135254375/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1330781690&sr=8-8

A complete waste of people's time and money, all they do is scoop up Wikipedia pages and run them through print-on-demand services and they grab utterly unrelated pages:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDM_Publishing
http://www.chrisrand.com/blog/index.php/2010/02/27/odd-tale-alphascript-publishing-betascript-publishing/

It can make looking for books on obscure topics difficult as they can swamp the results.

The sad thing is that Wikipedia does assemble books which would be cheaper and more coherent:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Books

You can see some comics ones here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_books_on_comics

It'd be easy enough to rummage up one on 2000AD too.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spikes 10 March, 2012, 10:49:04 AM: Have these been posted on before? - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mongrol-lara-from-the-pages-of-2000ad-hand-painted-on-canvas?item=320860381075
Some Nemesis designs were listed the other day as well.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Mike Carroll 13 March, 2012, 02:58:11 AM: Hmm...

http://society6.com/TheBlackeningCo/Polygon-Heroes-Judge-Dredd_Phone-Skin (http://society6.com/TheBlackeningCo/Polygon-Heroes-Judge-Dredd_Phone-Skin)

It claims "Un-official fan art" but I doubt that excuses the fact that he's still trying to make money on a property that he doesn't own.

-- Mike
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: vzzbux 01 April, 2012, 11:48:03 AM: Casefiles on digital disc.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-DIGITAL-COMIC-COLLECTION-/170809055092?pt=UK_Collections_Lots_Books_EH&hash=item27c5035774

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: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Mardroid 01 April, 2012, 02:40:39 PM: : vzzbux 01 April, 2012, 11:48:03 AM
Casefiles on digital disc.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-DIGITAL-COMIC-COLLECTION-/170809055092?pt=UK_Collections_Lots_Books_EH&hash=item27c5035774

Case filesmaximum colour edition? I didn't think such things existed. (I know there are colour case files, but the earlier publications are described that way in the ad too.)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Emperor 01 April, 2012, 03:07:05 PM: My "favourite" bit:

*WHY PAY HUNDREDS, IN SOME CASES THOUSANDS FOR A COMIC WHEN YOU CAN GET THEM FOR NEXT TO NOWT

I'd like to see Tharg find out where he works and pop in and help himself to whatever he can find. ;)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Alski 02 April, 2012, 09:17:15 AM: His reply when I asked if it was legal:

"hi there,
digital comics is still a touchy subject, ebay havent
removed any listings as of yet as the law is still very unclear on the
whole digital comic era, wont be long though before they bring a law out
stopping the distribution of comics in this way, at present all comics i
have are all available online, all i am doing is sorting through
everything, repackaging, converting into a better format and
supplying

hope that answers your question

nev"
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: a chosen rider 02 April, 2012, 10:19:26 AM: : Alski 02 April, 2012, 09:17:15 AM
His reply when I asked if it was legal:

"hi there,
digital comics is still a touchy subject, ebay havent
removed any listings as of yet as the law is still very unclear on the
whole digital comic era, wont be long though before they bring a law out
stopping the distribution of comics in this way, at present all comics i
have are all available online, all i am doing is sorting through
everything, repackaging, converting into a better format and
supplying

hope that answers your question

nev"

Wow. You've got to wonder if he genuinely believes that, or he's just hoping you will. Given how incredibly blatant he's being about the amount of stuff he's selling, I almost think it's the former. Which takes an impressive set of blinkers.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: glassstanley 02 April, 2012, 11:29:00 AM: : Mardroid 01 April, 2012, 02:40:39 PM
: vzzbux 01 April, 2012, 11:48:03 AM
Casefiles on digital disc.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-DIGITAL-COMIC-COLLECTION-/170809055092?pt=UK_Collections_Lots_Books_EH&hash=item27c5035774

Case filesmaximum colour edition? I didn't think such things existed. (I know there are colour case files, but the earlier publications are described that way in the ad too.)

I've seen one of these floating around the internet. Basically they are the digital Case Files with most of the stories replaced by scans of the colourises US reprints.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: vzzbux 02 April, 2012, 10:54:14 PM: I reported him yesterday and now the item is no longer available.
Chalk one up for the good guys,

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: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: JOE SOAP 02 April, 2012, 10:55:39 PM: : glassstanley 02 April, 2012, 11:29:00 AM
Basically they are the digital Case Files with most of the stories replaced by scans of the colourises US reprints.

At least they made the effort.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spikes 04 April, 2012, 07:49:56 PM: : Emperor 01 April, 2012, 03:07:05 PM
My "favourite" bit:

*WHY PAY HUNDREDS, IN SOME CASES THOUSANDS FOR A COMIC WHEN YOU CAN GET THEM FOR NEXT TO NOWT

I'd like to see Tharg find out where he works and pop in and help himself to whatever he can find. ;)

Cant Rebellion do owt about this sort of thing? Does seem to be a lot like this cropping up.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: vzzbux 04 April, 2012, 07:53:28 PM: : Judge Jack 04 April, 2012, 07:49:56 PM
: Emperor 01 April, 2012, 03:07:05 PM
My "favourite" bit:

*WHY PAY HUNDREDS, IN SOME CASES THOUSANDS FOR A COMIC WHEN YOU CAN GET THEM FOR NEXT TO NOWT

I'd like to see Tharg find out where he works and pop in and help himself to whatever he can find. ;)

Cant Rebellion do owt about this sort of thing? Does seem to be a lot like this cropping up.

If you see something like it on E-Bay it pays to report it straight away. Within 24 hours of me reporting it the items were taken down.

V
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: opaque 13 April, 2012, 03:50:58 PM: When I report any of these on disc collections they never seem to go away
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Goosegash 13 April, 2012, 04:39:46 PM: : Mardroid 01 April, 2012, 02:40:39 PM
: vzzbux 01 April, 2012, 11:48:03 AM
Casefiles on digital disc.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-DIGITAL-COMIC-COLLECTION-/170809055092?pt=UK_Collections_Lots_Books_EH&hash=item27c5035774

Case filesmaximum colour edition? I didn't think such things existed. (I know there are colour case files, but the earlier publications are described that way in the ad too.)

There are torrents of these around - I downloaded a couple out of curiosity, but wasn't really impressed with either. One version has the colourised pages from the Eagle reprints, the ones that were chopped up to fit standard US comic book format, so that's a compromise from the start. The other version has the colour pages from the original progs inserted into scans of the Case Files, but the image quality of those added pages is so poor that you might as well not bother.

In theory, I actually like the idea of reconstructing these stories as they originally appeared in Case File format, with correctly presented centre spreads and the colour sections reinstated and all. But unless you have access to really good quality scans, then there's not a whole lot of point.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: opaque 08 May, 2012, 10:02:37 PM: Here's a great one: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120910667471

Even puts this in the description!
Ebay’s VeRO Team and The Publishers Association
Please note that this book is not in copyright and it is in the Public Domain.
It does not infringe copyright and abides by Ebay's VeRO policies

Can a few more people report this please? I'm getting sick of seeing such things, and can't Rebelliion do something about it too?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Emperor 09 May, 2012, 12:00:48 AM: Not sure about this one, it seems to be an art project based on found objects but they say they'll be printing up the ones that get most votes:

http://onehundredtees.tumblr.com/post/22670300917/day-19-good-advice-from-the-judge
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Hev 09 May, 2012, 05:31:58 PM: : opaque 08 May, 2012, 10:02:37 PM
Here's a great one: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120910667471

Even puts this in the description!
Ebay’s VeRO Team and The Publishers Association
Please note that this book is not in copyright and it is in the Public Domain.
It does not infringe copyright and abides by Ebay's VeRO policies

Can a few more people report this please? I'm getting sick of seeing such things, and can't Rebelliion do something about it too?

I have been reporting these for a while but nothing has been done about it.

Looks like it has been taken down now, but found these 2 on eBay as well.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1500-Comics-COLLECTION-2000-AD-Printed-DVDs-YEARS-Reading-PC-MAC-/170837437360?pt=UK_Collections_Lots_Books_EH&hash=item27c6b46bb0

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Collection-Over-1500-Digital-Comics-2000-AD-/330719627197?pt=UK_Books_comics_Magazines_UK_Comics_ET&hash=item4d006d07bd
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: vzzbux 09 May, 2012, 09:55:43 PM: : Emperor 09 May, 2012, 12:00:48 AM
Not sure about this one, it seems to be an art project based on found objects but they say they'll be printing up the ones that get most votes:

http://onehundredtees.tumblr.com/post/22670300917/day-19-good-advice-from-the-judge
Shouldn't that caption read 'Sergeant Baldwin to Dredd' anyway?

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: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Emperor 10 May, 2012, 05:10:58 PM: Not sure if this falls in 2000AD's purview (as complaining on YouTube is awfully specific, see also the Judge Dredd film that is on there*) but the "The Day the Law Died" audioplay is all on there:

www.youtube.com/user/toven76/videos?query=dredd

* Actually looking that up now, as well as the serialised version:

www.youtube.com/user/mrchubbyz/videos?query=dredd

Someone has up the complete movie in one lump:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=USe2YPviTZk
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: SpetsnaZ99 11 May, 2012, 10:52:25 AM: : Emperor 10 May, 2012, 05:10:58 PM

Someone has up the complete movie in one lump:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=USe2YPviTZk

What is the law surrounding this? Because technically the video does actually download onto your computer. So has a person broken any laws by watching it? Or is it the uploader who is in breach of copyright?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: a chosen rider 11 May, 2012, 11:19:29 AM: : SpetsnaZ99 11 May, 2012, 10:52:25 AM
What is the law surrounding this? Because technically the video does actually download onto your computer. So has a person broken any laws by watching it? Or is it the uploader who is in breach of copyright?

There's an article discussing that situation here (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13739_3-9936833-46.html). (Refers to US Law, but I assume use of Youtube probably falls under that jurisdiction.) Apparently the issue of whether a buffer copy for streaming technically counts as 'duplication' might be grounds for a legal defence, but the article-writer argues that Youtube's logs can't differentiate between streaming vs. using a download tool anyway so the user can't necessarily prove that they only watched a buffered copy. So technically you could be liable for a $750 fine for every illegal clip that you watch (and still $200 even if you can prove you had no reason to believe you were infringing), although it's all a bit academic because nobody's tried to enforce it yet.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: SpetsnaZ99 12 May, 2012, 11:18:30 AM: Its about time the uploaders and host site owners get fined. Its a bit like a country that has a law in place that states that 'its a crime for any citizen to look at naked images' but then one Saturday afternoon someone does a streak down the local high street and everyone who looked at the streaker is fined but the streaker doesn't get charged
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: The Bissler 25 May, 2012, 08:52:15 AM: Dunno if this Judge Dredd "inspired" t-shirt is the kind of thing you want to be made aware of?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Judge-Dredd-Logo-inspired-T-shirt-Ladies-and-Gents-Navy-Blue-/170833751022?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item6d755f2c0a

The logo looks suspiciously like the cover of prog 262.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: James Stacey 25 May, 2012, 09:30:06 AM: Their disclaimer is bollocks too. That's absolutely infringement.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: opaque 31 May, 2012, 01:56:14 PM: Any plans for Rebellion to actually actively trawl Ebay and ask Ebay to remove all these illegitimate products?
Maybe they will listen to the IP owners as they don't seem to listen to individuals.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Teivion 31 May, 2012, 04:16:46 PM: Rebellion do (fact)

It's Ebay that drags its heels.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: opaque 31 May, 2012, 10:22:12 PM: Thanks. Nice to know!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: opaque 24 June, 2012, 08:30:53 PM: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DEATH-HELMET-1-1-CUSTOM-STAND-AND-PLAQUE-FULL-SIZE-JUDGE-DREDD-/390433953827?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item5ae7ad5823#ht_500wt_1156
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Emperor 24 June, 2012, 10:25:08 PM: They have a Dredd version for £100 too:

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-HELMET-COMIC-VERSION-1-1-/390432266611
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Frank 30 June, 2012, 12:45:52 AM: Right shoulder pad with eagle design!

http://geektyrant.com/storage/0999-post-images/pacrim6192012.jpeg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1340210237381 (http://geektyrant.com/storage/0999-post-images/pacrim6192012.jpeg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1340210237381)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: JOE SOAP 30 June, 2012, 12:50:32 AM: Kvnts. They should steal Elba for the sequel where Silver cracks down on the scheduled democracy march.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Frank 30 June, 2012, 12:57:01 AM: : JOE SOAP 30 June, 2012, 12:50:32 AM
Kvnts. They should steal Elba for the sequel where Silver cracks down on the scheduled democracy march.

String always struck me as more of a Guthrie than a Silver. Freeman would have been good counter-intuitive casting for that supercilious old despot.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: JOE SOAP 30 June, 2012, 01:04:37 AM: Guthrie's a little paler now:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3662636/
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) 06 July, 2012, 09:48:52 PM: http://www.simplyfancydress.co.uk/judge_dredd_super_hero_costume~66696/ (http://www.simplyfancydress.co.uk/judge_dredd_super_hero_costume~66696/)

(http://img.simplyfancydress.co.uk/images/products/generic/large/66696.jpg)

This is poor, I doubt this had the green light to produce.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: JOE SOAP 06 July, 2012, 09:50:11 PM: : Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) link=topic=29533.msg690289#msg690289

This is poor, I doubt this had the green light to produce.

It does.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) 06 July, 2012, 09:53:22 PM: : JOE SOAP 06 July, 2012, 09:50:11 PM
: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) link=topic=29533.msg690289#msg690289

This is poor, I doubt this had the green light to produce.

It does.

Jeez :/
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Emperor 07 July, 2012, 01:05:24 AM: If memory serves that is a mock-up placeholder and doesn't resemble the final product.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Frank 07 July, 2012, 08:11:18 AM: : Emperor 07 July, 2012, 01:05:24 AM
If memory serves that is a mock-up placeholder and doesn't resemble the final product.

THIS WORKS FOR ME (http://www.hypergeek.ca/wp-content/gallery/15/judge_anderson_c_4d41f520d5025.jpg)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: hippynumber1 07 July, 2012, 09:28:39 AM: I should hope not; that costume a AWFUL,
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Frank 07 July, 2012, 09:58:51 AM: : hippynumber1 07 July, 2012, 09:28:39 AM
I should hope not; that costume a AWFUL,

Everyone at a fancy dress party looks like a twat (http://72.10.171.98/resources/ecommerce/images/products/372/816/img816372/product-enlarged.jpg). Some people think that's what makes them fun, but I think Mean Girls's explanation- that it's the one day in the year when girls can dress like "total sluts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBySfz_w3YE)" and not get grief for it- is a more compelling explanation.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: CraveNoir 10 July, 2012, 12:19:12 AM: Greg Staples' Dredd
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11544715@N04/7529552768/

The DREDD poster & the Dredd versus Death game art
http://www.sosparty.co.uk/
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: JOE SOAP 10 July, 2012, 12:30:52 AM: : CraveNoir 10 July, 2012, 12:19:12 AM
Greg Staples' Dredd
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11544715@N04/7529552768/

The DREDD poster & the Dredd versus Death game art
http://www.sosparty.co.uk/

Fuck me that's a serious lack of Judgement there.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Alski 10 July, 2012, 02:31:07 PM: Someone official should definitely:

a) contact him and get him to remove these images
b) go to the red tops and give it to them as a story - good publicity for the comic and movie!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Molch-R 10 July, 2012, 03:19:56 PM: : JOE SOAP 06 July, 2012, 09:50:11 PM
: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) link=topic=29533.msg690289#msg690289

This is poor, I doubt this had the green light to produce.

It does.

It did not. As stated at the time, this was a photo of a prototype that did NOT get approved.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Steven Sterlacchini 10 July, 2012, 11:54:18 PM: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Judge-Dredd-Reboot-Movie-Poster-T-Shirt-/160833258904?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item257268c598#ht_1543wt_912

Copyright infringement of Dredd image - Greg Staples as Dredd from Minty on a T-Shirt.

We're happy to contact ebay about this, as the original image was created by us, but I assume Rebellion might have a procedure?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Steve Green 11 July, 2012, 12:13:45 AM: : Alski 10 July, 2012, 02:31:07 PM
Someone official should definitely:

a) contact him and get him to remove these images
b) go to the red tops and give it to them as a story - good publicity for the comic and movie!

Just send Burdis down there to have a word... in costume.

For someone who's applying to be a crime commissioner he seems a little confused on copyright law.

I would have watermarked them, but I hate doing that and people will only crop it anyway.

Must be an OK image though, if people are nicking it to stick on t-shirts as well.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: vzzbux 11 July, 2012, 12:16:10 AM: Minty, report them anyway. I have done this on a number of occasions. A few have even been taken off.
Have just reported said item.

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: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Steve Green 11 July, 2012, 12:23:20 AM: : vzzbux 11 July, 2012, 12:16:10 AM
Minty, report them anyway. I have done this on a number of occasions. A few have even been taken off.
Have just reported said item.

V

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Judge-Dredd-Judgement-Is-Coming-Movie-Poster-T-Shirt-/150842840240?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item231eef14b0#ht_1557wt_1397 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Judge-Dredd-Judgement-Is-Coming-Movie-Poster-T-Shirt-/150842840240?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item231eef14b0#ht_1557wt_1397)

This is from the same seller, I'm guessing it's not official either.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Steven Sterlacchini 11 July, 2012, 12:26:36 AM: I'll probably leave it to Rebellion and DNA then. I've just looked at the procedure and it looks I have to download a form and then Fax it back?

Also looking at the form I can't honestly say I personally have any rights to any part of the image what-so-ever, so I couldn't honestly fill it in.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Steve Green 11 July, 2012, 12:49:16 AM: Seems the best way, I'll contact Mike when he's back if he hasn't seen this thread...

I guess I own the copyright to the photo technically but it's of no value to me as it's of someone else's IP, and there's also Greg to consider.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Albion 11 July, 2012, 11:15:56 AM: : Steve Green 11 July, 2012, 12:13:45 AM
For someone who's applying to be a crime commissioner he seems a little confused on copyright law.

I sent him an email asking if he had got permission to use the images as I couldn't see a credit anywhere and suggested he may like to ask Rebellion and DNA Films about it.
I got this reply....

Many thanks.
Of-course if my adaptations of Judge Dredd pictures (who between you and I, is my father), happens to be either morally wrong or illegal, of-course, I will make the necessary amendments ASAP.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention and hope I can count on your vote for the Sussex Police and Crime Commissioner elections on November 15th 2012.

Thanks.....
Luv yer.....

:o
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: TordelBack 11 July, 2012, 11:22:48 AM: Motherfunter.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Kowalsky (formerly JudgeGumpty) 11 July, 2012, 11:01:19 PM: Well theres a craphat if ever I seen one. I really hope they sue his ass off. At time of writing he is still selling them.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: JOE SOAP 11 July, 2012, 11:09:24 PM: What a complete and absolute Tool-Shed.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: COMMANDO FORCES 14 July, 2012, 07:57:05 AM: Here are some FRIDGE MAGNETS (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Judge-Dredd-Poster-Fridge-Magnets-3-pics-jd-12-/120946237669?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c28f520e5) and a couple are from one of the art comps on here ::)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Alski 14 July, 2012, 02:14:57 PM: : COMMANDO FORCES 14 July, 2012, 07:57:05 AM
Here are some FRIDGE MAGNETS (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Judge-Dredd-Poster-Fridge-Magnets-3-pics-jd-12-/120946237669?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c28f520e5) and a couple are from one of the art comps on here ::)

wow! I have emailed this one stating I drew the pic (I didn't, but soulds better that way) and that he should remove it and the others. Let's see what happens.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Alski 14 July, 2012, 02:24:38 PM: He has agreed to remove them from sale. We shall see!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: The Enigmatic Dr X 27 July, 2012, 01:41:33 PM: Really like the GI ones

http://www.redbubble.com/shop/dredd+iphone-cases (http://www.redbubble.com/shop/dredd+iphone-cases)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: CrazyFoxMachine 19 August, 2012, 11:39:56 PM: Who fancies a badly vectored Greg Staples trace as a poster?

(http://ih3.redbubble.net/image.12427550.5959/poster,375x360,ffffff.jpg)

http://www.redbubble.com/people/evandeciren/works/9245959-dredd-city-of-the-damned?c=154624-comicsart&p=poster&size=small
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: CrazyFoxMachine 20 August, 2012, 12:56:21 PM: Right that's me on the warpath. I got to this through DeviantArt where the chap had put it up - I wrote on the page "you should credit Rebellion and Greg Staples" and he deleted my comment.

So I've reported the fucker. Whatever good that'll do.

RedBubble really is the biggest hive of scum and villainy on the 'net for just nicking shit and making money isn't it? If you search 2000ad there's TONNES of stuff.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: radiator 20 August, 2012, 02:00:34 PM: I like this blatant ripoff - like someone cloned Brian Bolland, but something went terribly wrong...

http://www.redbubble.com/people/housh68/works/172334-i-am-the-law (http://www.redbubble.com/people/housh68/works/172334-i-am-the-law)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: JamesC 20 August, 2012, 02:32:55 PM: : radiator 20 August, 2012, 02:00:34 PM
I like this blatant ripoff - like someone cloned Brian Bolland, but something went terribly wrong...

http://www.redbubble.com/people/housh68/works/172334-i-am-the-law (http://www.redbubble.com/people/housh68/works/172334-i-am-the-law)

I really like his rather fruity looking Terminator, made even funnier by the comment from Ruth who seems to think it's a Borg:

http://www.redbubble.com/people/housh68/works/189826-t2
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spaceghost 21 August, 2012, 03:20:02 PM: Dodgy, rip-off (I presume) Dredd t shirts on Amazon by Black Sheep Clothing -

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dclothing&field-keywords=Black+Sheep+Dredd&rh=n%3A83450031%2Ck%3ABlack+Sheep+Dredd&ajr=0
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: vzzbux 21 August, 2012, 07:25:48 PM: If it is being sold on Amazon then they must have permission to sell them by Rebellion. If not then Tut Tut Tut. Maybe a little nudge to Amazon is needed for confirmation.

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: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: CrazyFoxMachine 22 August, 2012, 11:00:46 AM: (http://ih2.redbubble.net/image.12443352.5959/poster,375x360,ffffff.jpg)

well well well.... he removed the Greg Staples art. Now it looks less eyecatching and doesn't make any sense at all. Hurrah!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Trout 22 August, 2012, 11:19:33 AM: That's... kind of shit. It's not even accurate, and contains a typo.

If he doesn't have a licence, it still breaches copyright because it uses the image and name anyway.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: The Enigmatic Dr X 22 August, 2012, 12:28:35 PM: : Trout 22 August, 2012, 11:19:33 AM
That's... kind of shit. It's not even accurate, and contains a typo.

If he doesn't have a licence, it still breaches copyright because it uses the image and name anyway.

Trademark infringement, not breach of copyright. (That law degree serves you well).
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Trout 22 August, 2012, 12:38:21 PM: It's been a long time. Also, I don't care. :)

Bloody lawyers.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: James 26 August, 2012, 09:25:06 AM: : radiator 20 August, 2012, 02:00:34 PM
I like this blatant ripoff - like someone cloned Brian Bolland, but something went terribly wrong...

http://www.redbubble.com/people/housh68/works/172334-i-am-the-law (http://www.redbubble.com/people/housh68/works/172334-i-am-the-law)

It's like he ran out of room at the top of the page so had to flatten the helmet to fit it in.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Third Estate Ned 07 September, 2012, 11:46:41 AM: Is this official stuff? It doesn't look like it.

http://thespicetagblog.blogspot.it/2012/09/mega-citys-finest-judge-dredd-t-shirts.html (http://thespicetagblog.blogspot.it/2012/09/mega-citys-finest-judge-dredd-t-shirts.html)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: James Stacey 07 September, 2012, 12:07:11 PM: I'd hope not. They are shit
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Third Estate Ned 07 September, 2012, 12:33:35 PM: If they aren't offcial, anyone with a Blogger account care to add the above opinion in the blog's comments box?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Dandontdare 07 September, 2012, 12:37:52 PM: I was just about to, then remembered I'd deleted my google account in a fit of pique! I hope lots of us add comments!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Glenn Broadway 11 September, 2012, 11:38:33 PM: I left a comment but the admin removed it (surprise, surprise).
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: COMMANDO FORCES 14 September, 2012, 07:46:33 PM: Just had a quick look at ebay and it is now full of illegal stuff, it's gone DREDD crazy!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: ming 23 September, 2012, 01:21:25 PM: Are these legit? Just curious, what with er, Rouge Trooper by Dave Gibbins... :lol:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000AD-Rouge-Trooper-Dave-Gibbins-/130717233996?pt=UK_Art_CanvasGiclee_RL&hash=item1e6f5ab34c

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000AD-Mega-Dredd-Mike-Mcmahon-/130717247152?pt=UK_Art_CanvasGiclee_RL&hash=item1e6f5ae6b0
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: The Amstor Computer 14 October, 2012, 08:49:56 PM: This can't be legit, can it? These comics aren't public domain by any stretch of the imagination, even if the rights on some aren't immediately clear. Can't see any clear way to report this to eBay, but worth posting here, I think:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bumper-ACTION-Comic-STARLORD-TORNADO-139-Comics-DVD-2000-AD-related-/190727728085
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spikes 14 October, 2012, 10:30:39 PM: At the bottom of the listing;
eBay legal - The materials on each disc have been determined to be in the public domain after having been thoroughly researched. Absolutely no copyrights are infringed. Please contact me with any questions regarding this item. Characters are trademarks of their respective owners, and any use thereof is for descriptive purposes as allowed by fair use law and is only being used to describe the product being sold.
Bumper British Action with Starlord and Tornado Comic Collection is copyright © 2012 and may not be reproduced, or copied to be resold. No affiliation is intended or implied with any publishers of the original materials or trademark owners. Seller assumes all responsibility for this listing.

Does that mean E-bay has looked into it but have deemed them (wrongly) to be in the public domain, or is that summat the seller has cheekily added, in the hope of deflecting any comeback?

Not sure how you report anything on E-bay, but ill have a closer look next time i log-in. I must say you dont often get these style of collections featuring 2000ad material, perhaps its harder to pass those off.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: vzzbux 14 October, 2012, 10:36:48 PM: These sort of discs appear all the time on E-Bay.
I believe that the seller would have put that up on the listing not E-Bay.
If they did add that to the listing then E-Bay would be party to the crime.

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: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Dandontdare 15 October, 2012, 09:05:47 PM: Absolutely no copyrights are infringed. Please contact me with any questions regarding this item. Characters are trademarks of their respective owners, and any use thereof is for descriptive purposes as allowed by fair use law and is only being used to describe the product being sold.

I think that's what is technically referred to as a "big fat stinking lie"
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spikes 15 October, 2012, 09:30:42 PM: The copyright for these comics is owned by Egmont, isnt it?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: COMMANDO FORCES 15 October, 2012, 09:33:37 PM: You would think ebay would be liable to prosecution for facilitating the sale of illegal goods. Then again, I'm sure they have something in the micro small print on page 4,962,775 about that!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: JOE SOAP 15 October, 2012, 09:35:22 PM: Terribe thing is, if I found all the issues of 80's EAGLE on DVD...I'd probably buy it.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: opaque 15 October, 2012, 09:45:43 PM: You get these ALL the time. And yes I do report them, especially the ones really taking the piss like those people.

I know what you mean Joe. Of course you'd only do it to prove they were breaking the rules and get their address ;)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spikes 21 October, 2012, 11:46:08 PM: Saw this again, when i popped on E-bay earlier, and s/he's still going strong.
Just about every other UK comic apart from 2000ad, is on offer.
No 80's Eagles, im afraid, Joe, but what looks to be every issue from its original run, is available.

Has anyone ever seen what these are like? Pretty shitty, or are they suprisingly decent?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Beaker 22 October, 2012, 07:39:12 PM: : Judge Jack 21 October, 2012, 11:46:08 PM
Saw this again, when i popped on E-bay earlier, and s/he's still going strong.
Just about every other UK comic apart from 2000ad, is on offer.
No 80's Eagles, im afraid, Joe, but what looks to be every issue from its original run, is available.

Has anyone ever seen what these are like? Pretty shitty, or are they suprisingly decent?

Ermm, I hear tell that they are excellent. Very good copies indeed and well scanned. On an 8" tablet using Cool Reader they read very well. (Although the classic Eagles, are a little small so zooming is required)......apparently.

I am sure if they were properly commercially available they would sell like the proverbial hot cakes but this chap/lady/gronk has made them available and they're selling because how else could someone read these comics?

The first 37 issues of Action can be read for free online. I shan't post a link in case it infringes any copyright, which it probably does.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spikes 23 October, 2012, 12:28:00 AM: : Beaker 22 October, 2012, 07:39:12 PM
The first 37 issues of Action can be read for free online. I shan't post a link in case it infringes any copyright, which it probably does.

Would that be the excellent, but unoffical, Sevenpenny Nightmare site? Though its a site that clearly lets people know that Egmont owns the copyright, it does indeed show complete scans for every one of the 'pre-ban' issues.

I can see how its tempting, with these collections on E-bay, especially if they are indeed well done. They can certainly offer a quick fix for collectors, but for me, itll always be about tracking down and owning original copies of the comic. Took me ages to put together the first 'pre-ban' set issues for Action, and it wasnt cheap doing that, either.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: SmallBlueThing 23 October, 2012, 08:32:41 AM: Tell me about it, im doing that at the moment. Very slowly. I have six so far. :-/

SBT
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Beaker 23 October, 2012, 09:44:28 AM: Oh indeed, there’s nothing quite like the fun of collecting comics bit by bit and I did that with the first 85 issues of 2000ad and many of the Tornados.

I also pick up as many copies of Monster Fun, Krazy, Warlord, Victor, Shiver & Shake and any other British comics as I can get and I’d love to get all of the issues of Action (I think I have the first couple and an annual) but simply to read and enjoy, these digital copies are a good interim option. They are not exactly guilt-free but they do take up a lot less space, which pleases ‘er indoors!

Of course the seller is making money from something he or she does not have the rights to, but just look at the amount of old films available on Ebay, ostensibly in the ‘Public Domain’ in particular Will Hay & George Formby films. It is not right, its illegal and the quality of them is awful but I suppose caveat emptor applies.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jim_Campbell 23 October, 2012, 10:54:35 AM: : Judge Jack 23 October, 2012, 12:28:00 AM
Would that be the excellent, but unoffical, Sevenpenny Nightmare site? Though its a site that clearly lets people know that Egmont owns the copyright, it does indeed show complete scans for every one of the 'pre-ban' issues.

That's an interesting (and exceptional, I think) case, in as much as Moose Harris* is widely recognised as a comic archivist and holds high-res scans, from originals wherever he can get 'em, for a great many classic 1970s British comics. I have no direct confirmation of this, but I suspect that that his stuff stays online with the tacit/unofficial approval of the rights holders for as long as they don't want to do anything else with it.

The companion 'Best of Battle' site used to have extensive scans of the strips available to read online, but these have all disappeared since the collected editions of Battle material started appearing (and I believe that Moose has been the source of most of the pages used in the Charley's War, Johnny Red and Major Eazy volumes).

Cheers

Jim

*Yes, New Model Army fans -- that Moose Harris.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Beaker 23 October, 2012, 01:01:55 PM: : Jim_Campbell 23 October, 2012, 10:54:35 AM

*Yes, New Model Army fans -- that Moose Harris.

Oh really... the guy who replaced the awesome Stuart Morrow?

I didn't know that!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spikes 23 October, 2012, 08:02:29 PM: Despite frequenting the Sevenpenny Nightmare (http://www.sevenpennynightmare.co.uk/) site, i hadnt really paid any attention as to who ran it. Seems Moose Harris (http://mooseharris.sevenpennynightmare.co.uk/blog/) is indeed a passionate lover of comics. Good man!

Despite its unoffical status, the Action site, in terms of quality, certainly sets a high water mark, and i can easily imagine it having tacit approval. Steve MacManus, himself has given it the thumbs up, i believe.
Its oft reported that 'Best of Action' collections are heading our way, but frustratingly, these have yet to materialise. A timely reprint, and updating of, the superb 'The Story of a Violent Comic' by Martin Barker wouldnt go amiss.

: SmallBlueThing 23 October, 2012, 08:32:41 AM
Tell me about it, im doing that at the moment. Very slowly. I have six so far. :-/
SBT

Do you need Issue 31 – 11th September 1976, and Issue 32 – 18th September 1976?, as i have spare copies for these. Your more than welcome to them.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: SmallBlueThing 23 October, 2012, 10:29:40 PM: I certainly do, kind sir. Please pm me and let me know what i can exchange them for- comics or monies.

SBT
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spikes 23 October, 2012, 10:37:41 PM: No probs, and no charge. A good home is all thats required. PM me your address, and ill pop 'em off when i get chance.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: SmallBlueThing 23 October, 2012, 10:48:06 PM: Well, that's very kind! I will pm you when i get to a real computer, as i cant do that from my phone unless as a reply to a pm you send me first. And again: many thanks!

SBT
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Beaker 24 October, 2012, 09:26:41 AM: : Judge Jack 23 October, 2012, 08:02:29 PM
A timely reprint, and updating of, the superb 'The Story of a Violent Comic' by Martin Barker wouldnt go amiss.

Indeed. That was going on my Christmas list until I saw how much it was going for on Amazon!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spikes 24 October, 2012, 04:12:19 PM: Aye, its certainly not cheap. Usually hovers around the £60 mark on E-bay. Still, if you can find a decent copy, and at a decent price, then snap it up. Some brilliant stuff in there, plenty of unpublished art/stories from when the ban kicked in.
Just why this hasnt been reprinted (and updated, as a fair amount of new stuff has come to light since this was printed in the early 90's) is beyond me.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jim_Campbell 08 November, 2012, 10:07:37 AM: Chap here selling a fistful of unauthorised merchandise:

http://society6.com/SIRLAZYJ/DREDD-gzf_Print

The site will only accept reports of copyright infringement from the rights holder or their agent.

Cheers

Jim
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: vzzbux 08 November, 2012, 04:42:47 PM: Thats a pretty piss poor image as well.
(http://a1.s6img.com/cdn/0008/p/1745193_1702199_b.jpg)

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: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spikes 08 November, 2012, 04:58:52 PM: : vzzbux 08 November, 2012, 04:42:47 PM
Thats a pretty piss poor image as well.
and only $18.00!

Yeh, had a quick neb at the site, and they are truly taking the piss, arent they.
'Fine art print on natural white, matte, ultra smooth, 100% cotton rag, acid and lignin free archival paper using an advanced digital dry ink method to ensure vibrant image quality. Custom trimmed with 1" border for framing'
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: CrazyFoxMachine 06 December, 2012, 11:33:58 AM: I forget what the rules are with Redbubble - but these stickers are fairly nifty if legal.

(http://ih1.redbubble.net/image.13047829.7335/sticker,375x360.png)
(http://ih0.redbubble.net/image.13048157.7533/sticker,375x360.png)
(http://ih2.redbubble.net/image.13047185.6965/sticker,375x360.png)
(http://ih1.redbubble.net/image.13046678.6620/sticker,375x360.png)
(http://ih2.redbubble.net/image.13046416.6441/sticker,375x360.png)

http://www.redbubble.com/people/satansbrand
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Darren Stephens 06 December, 2012, 03:10:53 PM: I saw those stickers on the guys instagram feed yesterday. They are quite nice, aren't they? If slightly naughty (If he doesn't have Thargs permission....)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: COMMANDO FORCES 06 December, 2012, 05:20:03 PM: An absolute disgrace, especially at £1.57 for ONE sticker :o

Although you get 50% off with six or more.........Stop it John :crazy:
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: johnnystress 23 December, 2012, 03:27:24 PM: hmmm

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9zokgAPX71ryv6tlo2_1280.jpg)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Steve Green 23 December, 2012, 03:37:00 PM: Where did you find that?

I can't imagine why they'd have a pic of Rogue Trooper on a fries carton...
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Trout 23 December, 2012, 03:39:20 PM: Canadian flag in the middle there.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Steve Green 23 December, 2012, 03:45:24 PM: Cheers didn't spot it amongst the red...

(http://www.scifinow.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Rogue-Trooper-Tales-Of-Nu-Earth.gif)

Not sure if there's a closer image than this...
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: A.Cow 23 December, 2012, 04:39:26 PM: I haven't had a proper look 'cos my phone screen is too small, but...

http://benfrostisdead.com/fancybox/4-columns/packaging-paintings/ (http://benfrostisdead.com/fancybox/4-columns/packaging-paintings/)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Steve Green 23 December, 2012, 04:41:43 PM: That'll be it then.

BTW the cartoons on some of them are NSFW... but you shouldn't be working anyway...

Cheers
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: CrazyFoxMachine 02 January, 2013, 01:34:30 AM: (http://th00.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/357/e/2/dredd__v2__by_j_medbury-d5oyfev.jpg)

FFS. Calls himself "Lazy J" even. Too blummin right he's lazy.

http://www.deviantart.com/#/d5oyfev
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Bolt-01 02 January, 2013, 01:17:02 PM: Never mind lazy, a bit crap as well IMO
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: LARF 02 January, 2013, 01:31:19 PM: : CrazyFoxMachine 02 January, 2013, 01:34:30 AM
(http://th00.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/357/e/2/dredd__v2__by_j_medbury-d5oyfev.jpg)

FFS. Calls himself "Lazy J" even. Too blummin right he's lazy.

http://www.deviantart.com/#/d5oyfev

I'm still laughing at this. It's so crap I'm wondering who'll buy it...
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Fatboydale 02 January, 2013, 01:57:48 PM: : LARF 02 January, 2013, 01:31:19 PM
: CrazyFoxMachine 02 January, 2013, 01:34:30 AM
(http://th00.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2012/357/e/2/dredd__v2__by_j_medbury-d5oyfev.jpg)

FFS. Calls himself "Lazy J" even. Too blummin right he's lazy.

http://www.deviantart.com/#/d5oyfev

I'm still laughing at this. It's so crap I'm wondering who'll buy it...

do you really have to guess !!! who's cellar will have them all ...
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: Fatboydale 06 January, 2013, 07:38:29 PM: This may have been already been up , slightly unfair on Planet replicas as they paid for their licence ...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-COMIC-VERSION-HELMET-1-1-/390522315067?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item5aecf1a13b
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Goosegash 06 January, 2013, 09:34:20 PM: : johnnystress 23 December, 2012, 03:27:24 PM
hmmm

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9zokgAPX71ryv6tlo2_1280.jpg)

If this is for real, could Rebellion legitimately sue McDonalds over it?

Finally, payback for Burger Wars!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Steve Green 06 January, 2013, 09:53:51 PM: The Fries carton is some artist taking packaging and putting artwork on it - nothing to do with McDonalds as such.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Steve Green 06 January, 2013, 09:55:44 PM: : Fatboydale 06 January, 2013, 07:38:29 PM
This may have been already been up , slightly unfair on Planet replicas as they paid for their licence ...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-COMIC-VERSION-HELMET-1-1-/390522315067?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_Film_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item5aecf1a13b

Looks like one of the Termight ones with a different badge.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Leigh S 06 January, 2013, 10:19:11 PM: The McDolnalds thing looks most like a Brett Ewins Rogue, if we are looking for a straight swipe...
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: shaolin_monkey 16 January, 2013, 11:38:38 AM: Woah - is it me, or has redbubble exploded with copyright infringement?!?

http://www.redbubble.com/shop/judge+dredd+t-shirts?page=1&ref=explore_product_refinement
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: Third Estate Ned 17 January, 2013, 07:08:00 PM: Currently investigating a Murda in Da Club:

http://www.play.com/Music/MP3-Download-Album/4-/37897945/0/DREDD-EP/ListingDetails.html?searchstring=dredd&searchtype=allproducts&searchsource=0&searchfilters=s{dredd}%2b&urlrefer=search (http://www.play.com/Music/MP3-Download-Album/4-/37897945/0/DREDD-EP/ListingDetails.html?searchstring=dredd&searchtype=allproducts&searchsource=0&searchfilters=s{dredd}%2b&urlrefer=search)

Nice font.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: a chosen rider 29 January, 2013, 08:37:42 PM: Somebody on eBay selling scans of the Judge Dredd casefiles (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Judge-Dredd-The-Complete-Case-Files-Vols-1-17-on-disc-2000AD-/160965672494?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:1123) and Nikolai Dante (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000AD-The-Complete-Nikolai-Dante-all-64-issues-on-disc-/160962345319?pt=UK_Books_comics_Magazines_UK_Comics_ET&hash=item257a1a7967) on disc. Not to mention a crapton of other comics.

(Can you report stuff for copyright violation on eBay if you're not the copyright holder? Their reporting processes are woefully unclear.)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: vzzbux 29 January, 2013, 09:42:33 PM: You can report it. I have done so in the past and they do take some things off.

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: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Dandontdare 08 February, 2013, 09:28:51 PM: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-KARL-URBAN-I-AM-THE-LAW-FUNNY-PAINTED-DEFORMED-SD-RESIN-MODEL-FIGURE-/251220945259?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7def696b
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: MercZ 09 February, 2013, 05:59:34 AM: Wow, he's already sold them all.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: COMMANDO FORCES 09 February, 2013, 07:30:49 AM: It's a disgrace and who would buy such a thing!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Richmond Clements 09 February, 2013, 07:57:05 AM: People with no respect for the copyright holder?
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: COMMANDO FORCES 09 February, 2013, 02:23:15 PM: I agree!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: MercZ 09 February, 2013, 11:23:59 PM: At any rate I reported them. The rest of you take a moment to do that too.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: opaque 14 February, 2013, 09:09:49 PM: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Judge-Dredd-V1-Vinyl-Adhesive-Logo-Sticker-Decal-Print-Multi-Sizes-/121063698382?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var&hash=item1c2ff56fce&_uhb=1

Printed Logo supplied under full license in the UK - Really?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: CrazyFoxMachine 23 February, 2013, 12:04:35 AM: (http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/052/a/9/u4_by_j_medbury-d5vslqn.jpg)

This ugly design is back from Lazy J studios. Lazy by name...

Report him on DeviantArt http://j-medbury.deviantart.com/
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/LAZY-J-Studios/263789523671116

etc etc.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Andy_Lee 23 February, 2013, 04:16:19 PM: : CrazyFoxMachine 23 February, 2013, 12:04:35 AM

This ugly design is back from Lazy J studios. Lazy by name...

Report him on DeviantArt http://j-medbury.deviantart.com/
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/LAZY-J-Studios/263789523671116

etc etc.

Gosh that's awful. Does Lazy J actually sell any of that print? I've seen better drawings in the Nerve Centre
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: von Boom 28 February, 2013, 10:27:44 PM: I'm not sure if this counts as IP infringement or not.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Judge-Dredd-Jacket-Custom-Leather-Jacket-All-Sizes-Available-/180997945829?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a245179e5 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Judge-Dredd-Jacket-Custom-Leather-Jacket-All-Sizes-Available-/180997945829?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a245179e5)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Judge-Dredd-Jacket-Custom-Leather-Jacket-All-Sizes-Available-/00/s/NjM5WDQ3Mw==/$(KGrHqN,!jcFBlkVWuq7BQfBRITjB!~~60_3.JPG)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: COMMANDO FORCES 28 February, 2013, 11:16:07 PM: I know that person!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: JOE SOAP 28 February, 2013, 11:22:51 PM: Why does he look like Kenneth Williams?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: COMMANDO FORCES 01 March, 2013, 12:00:05 AM: That's his Dredd face!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: BPP 01 March, 2013, 02:22:27 AM: He's onto a winner if he enters Stars In Their Eyes doing 'Mutants in Mega City One'.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Grant Goggans 14 March, 2013, 03:48:09 PM: It's honestly not really IP infringement, but has anybody read the latest Martin Amis novel? It's pretty much "Big Dave Wins the Lottery," with the same ugly satire of Sun/celebrity culture, even down to the two attack dogs. Only real differences are that it's set in London and not Manchester, and Big Dave didn't need make-believe celebrities for the hero to bed.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Dandontdare 14 March, 2013, 04:21:30 PM: Funnilly enough though, it's loosley based on the story of Michael Carroll - no, not that one!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Professor Bear 15 March, 2013, 04:42:55 PM: From Marvel's Avengers Arena - a comic whose first promotional image was the poster for Battle Royale with Marvel characters in place of the movie cast and which has featured the writer and artists in every single promotional interview ever since reinforcing that there is nothing original about the plot and all the characters are "archetypes" - a suspiciously familiar-looking barbarian with a big axe is a regular character.
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd74/redhotchillis/dfvsdfvs_zpsfb3cb1a1.jpg)
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: vzzbux 16 March, 2013, 10:05:47 PM: About the Artist
I am a passionate artist who paints for work and pleasure. I specialise in cartoon pop art and pop culture icons.
I have sold many paintings on eBay and have done countless personalised commissioned paintings for people all over the world.
My sole aim is to provide original hand painted artwork at affordable prices. All my art is skillfully hand painted
You won't find prints or posters here just great original artwork
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Judge-Dredd-one-of-a-kind-hand-painted-pop-art-painting-canvas-2000ad-comic-prog-/290869842876?pt=UK_art_Paintings_GL&hash=item43b93193bc
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Judge-Dredd-one-of-a-kind-hand-painted-pop-art-painting-canvas-2000ad-comic-prog-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMTk3/$T2eC16hHJFoE9nh6qTWvBQOju,cyrQ~~60_1.JPG)
Yes very original.
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcru7gsHYY1qcf9q6o1_500.png)

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: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: James Stacey 18 March, 2013, 04:44:21 PM: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Judge-Dredd-One-of-a-kind-hand-painted-pop-art-painting-canvas-2000ad-prog-comic-/290878921011?pt=UK_art_Paintings_GL&hash=item43b9bc1933
has a certain prog 666 to it too

(http://www.2000ad.org/covers/2000ad/mediumres/666.jpg)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: judgefloyd 04 April, 2013, 02:55:05 AM: love that prog 666 Dredd's Andy Warhol moment.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: opaque 01 May, 2013, 09:05:57 PM: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000AD-1799-2012-Digital-Comic-Comic-Reader-/310657886666?pt=UK_Books_Comics_Magazines_Comic_Magazines_ET&hash=item4854a729ca

Selling single issues!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: CrazyFoxMachine 11 June, 2013, 02:16:49 AM: http://www.webstoodstupid.com/judge-dredd-merchandise-polygon-heroes/

This almost makes it sound like it's official merch - !

(http://www.webstoodstupid.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/20120715-143855.jpg)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Mikey 14 June, 2013, 10:40:11 AM: On Ebay as 'hand finished silk screen print'. (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RYCA-Drop-Those-Spray-Cans-art-print-99x65cm-silkscreen-signed-limited-edition/400500977896?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D8352917366865517405%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D400500977896%26)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/RYCA-Drop-Those-Spray-Cans-art-print-99x65cm-silkscreen-signed-limited-edition-/00/s/MzY0WDU1MA==/z/E~gAAMXQLs5RqfTq/$T2eC16VHJGwFFZRJ5mpfBRqfTq%28kdw~~60_12.JPG)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Alski 14 June, 2013, 04:53:32 PM: : Mikey 14 June, 2013, 10:40:11 AM
On Ebay as 'hand finished silk screen print'. (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RYCA-Drop-Those-Spray-Cans-art-print-99x65cm-silkscreen-signed-limited-edition/400500977896?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D8352917366865517405%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D400500977896%26)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/RYCA-Drop-Those-Spray-Cans-art-print-99x65cm-silkscreen-signed-limited-edition-/00/s/MzY0WDU1MA==/z/E~gAAMXQLs5RqfTq/$T2eC16VHJGwFFZRJ5mpfBRqfTq%28kdw~~60_12.JPG)

A quick email got that removed.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: glassstanley 01 July, 2013, 09:02:54 PM: An eBay search for Lawman of the Future shows a seller offering a complete run of Lawman of the Future and a set of the JD Case Files on DVD for £9.99.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: CrazyFoxMachine 30 July, 2013, 10:57:20 PM: Not an IP steal necessarily but an art theft that's bugging me - where's the head pinched from?

(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/211/1/3/dredd_by_uncannyknack-d6fv6u1.jpg)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: radiator 30 July, 2013, 11:04:09 PM: That weird Dredd sculpture(?) that always seems to come up in Gopgle Images.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: JOE SOAP 30 July, 2013, 11:14:50 PM: : CrazyFoxMachine 30 July, 2013, 10:57:20 PM
Not an IP steal necessarily but an art theft that's bugging me - where's the head pinched from?

Built for the prototype Judge Dredd arcade game (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwCpa2bmzWo) unreleased by Midway (http://www.unseen64.net/2008/12/12/judge-dredd-arcade-cancelled/).

(http://www.unseen64.net/wp-content/gallery/judgedredd/jdredd1.png)
(http://www.unseen64.net/wp-content/gallery/judgedredd/jdredd11.png)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: CrazyFoxMachine 30 July, 2013, 11:19:33 PM: (http://www.badhaven.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Judge_Dredd.jpg)

Gottim.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: JOE SOAP 12 August, 2013, 09:36:15 PM: This may be a nothing but could the fact that Mattel's Max Steel TV/film-franchise/toyline features a character called DREDD be an issue for Rebellion?

(http://www.argos.co.uk/wcsstore/argos/en_GB/images/suppliershop/maxsteel/max_09.jpg)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Max-Steel-6-Action-Figure-Dredd-Blade-Attack-with-LED-Lights-Y9515-New-/00/s/MTYwMFg5MDY=/$(KGrHqN,!okFHWEi6-6WBR68udwYwg~~60_58.JPG)

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=max+steel+dredd&LH_PrefLoc=2

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/ArgosPromo3/includeName/max-steel-shop-home.htm?catalogId=10001&tx=true&uniqueQueryValue=MAX+STEEL&mer=redirect&SearchCmdImpl2RequestFilter.messages=%7B%7D&searchTerms=MAX+STEEL&langId=110&ArgosGSHelper=uk.co.argos.ecommerce.common.utils.ArgosGSHelper%4024632463&storeId=10151&SEARCH_METADATA=uk.co.argos.ecommerce.search.util.SearchMetadata%402a302a30&appPromptDisplayable=true

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WV84vCXVWU

http://www.toysrus.com/buy/action-figures/science-fiction-fantasy/max-steel-dredd-y1388-20844066

http://www.maxsteel.com/en-us/ntekfiles/bio/miles-dredd/

Probably a mad notion but could Dredd being a bona fide surname (http://www.whitepages.com/name/Dredd/) play a part in this?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spikes 12 August, 2013, 10:06:21 PM: Now Ulyssess Dredd has a certain grandness to it. Huey Dredd, less so. And as for Gilbert Dredd....
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Frank 12 August, 2013, 10:07:09 PM: : JOE SOAP 12 August, 2013, 09:36:15 PM
Probably a mad notion but could Dredd being a bona fide surname (http://www.whitepages.com/name/Dredd/) play a part in this?

Ulysses B Dredd (http://www.whitepages.com/name/Ulysses-B-Dredd-Jr/Canyon-Country-CA/2jrfsxw) is second only to Rembrandt Q Einstein in my list of great but obviously made-up names.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: A.Cow 12 August, 2013, 10:18:13 PM: : JOE SOAP 12 August, 2013, 09:36:15 PM
Probably a mad notion but could Dredd being a bona fide surname (http://www.whitepages.com/name/Dredd/) play a part in this?

I doubt it, because the second picture seems to indicate that they're labelling it as a trademark.

If so, and if they registered it first (even if just in the US), it could be a major headache for Rebellion.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: JOE SOAP 12 August, 2013, 10:18:43 PM: : sauchie 12 August, 2013, 10:07:09 PM
my list of great but obviously made-up names.

Aren't all names made-up?

Obvious marketing potential for the sequel- there's a Joseph Dredd in Derbyshire (http://www.192.com/atoz/people/dredd/joseph/).

And of course good old Democrat Travis Dredd (http://conventions.cps.neu.edu/videos/travis-dredd/).
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: A.Cow 12 August, 2013, 10:24:49 PM: : sauchie 12 August, 2013, 10:07:09 PM
Ulysses B Dredd (http://www.whitepages.com/name/Ulysses-B-Dredd-Jr/Canyon-Country-CA/2jrfsxw) is second only to Rembrandt Q Einstein in my list of great but obviously made-up names.

I own an electronics textbook written by Theodore F. Bogart, Jr..
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: JOE SOAP 12 August, 2013, 10:27:58 PM: : A.Cow 12 August, 2013, 10:24:49 PM
: sauchie 12 August, 2013, 10:07:09 PM
Ulysses B Dredd (http://www.whitepages.com/name/Ulysses-B-Dredd-Jr/Canyon-Country-CA/2jrfsxw) is second only to Rembrandt Q Einstein in my list of great but obviously made-up names.

I own an electronics textbook written by Theodore F. Bogart, Jr..

There was a previous employee at my work with the knuckle-shuffling name Willy Ankers (true).
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Frank 12 August, 2013, 10:31:03 PM: (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/48/Dred_Scott_photograph_%28circa_1857%29.jpg/220px-Dred_Scott_photograph_%28circa_1857%29.jpg)

DRED SCOTT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: The Enigmatic Dr X 12 August, 2013, 10:39:22 PM: By the power of the internet!

Miles Dredd is a trademark

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4805:jqdjea.2.1 (http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4805:jqdjea.2.1)

As is Judge Dredd

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4805:jqdjea.2.3 (http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4805:jqdjea.2.3)

but, interestingly, only Judge Dredd is registered (and not to Rebellion! Sneaky Mr Kingsley). Possible grounds for opposition to Mattel - it is not Dredd that is trademarked but MILES Dredd.

I'm just looking at the US of A. A UK search shows that Miles Dredd isn't registered here. Loads of Judge Dredd references though.

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/tmtext/Results (http://www.ipo.gov.uk/tmtext/Results)

EDIT: Oooh. "DREDD" itself is a UK Trademark held by oor Kingsley. Including a registration in Class 28: Games, toys and playthings. http://www.ipo.gov.uk/tmcase/Results/4/EU010311686
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Frank 12 August, 2013, 10:49:09 PM: : The Enigmatic Dr X 12 August, 2013, 10:39:22 PM
Dredd is a trademark ... (a)s is Judge Dredd

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4805:jqdjea.2.3 (http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4805:jqdjea.2.3)

but, interestingly, only Judge Dredd is registered (and not to Rebellion! Sneaky Mr Kingsley).

I'm going to check the Kingsleys don't own the copyright to me too.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: JOE SOAP 12 August, 2013, 10:53:16 PM: : The Enigmatic Dr X 12 August, 2013, 10:39:22 PM
EDIT: Oooh. "DREDD" itself is a UK Trademark held by oor Kingsley. Including a registration in Class 28: Games, toys and playthings. http://www.ipo.gov.uk/tmcase/Results/4/EU010311686 Mattel have a toy marked "Dredd" which they are selling in the UK with a ^TM. Just saying...

Which really is the crux. With a film called DREDD featuring a character called DREDD licensed to Liongate I wonder does it conflict with the Mattel Max Steel cartoons and future Max Steel film(s) (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/max-steel-back-action-at-598795) in development.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: The Enigmatic Dr X 12 August, 2013, 11:00:31 PM: To be fair, the Max Steel "Dredd" was around before the "Dredd" trademark was registered.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: JOE SOAP 12 August, 2013, 11:12:06 PM: : The Enigmatic Dr X 12 August, 2013, 11:00:31 PM
To be fair, the Max Steel "Dredd" was around before the "Dredd" trademark was registered.

But Does that hinder a DREDD toy/merchandise/film license in the US?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: A.Cow 25 August, 2013, 10:56:10 AM: Erm, has anybody seen the photos of Michael Rooker playing Yondu in Guardians of the Galaxy?

(http://cdn.bleedingcool.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Michael-Rooker-Yondu-1.png?f6a06b)

I'm not familiar with the source material but doesn't this character have a large red mohawk in the comics?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: CrazyFoxMachine 25 August, 2013, 11:00:58 AM: That'll probably be added afterwards. Alongside, from the looks of the trailer, a jaunty pop soundtrack.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: CrazyFoxMachine 11 September, 2013, 11:24:59 AM: (http://ih0.redbubble.net/image.14731605.5180/fig,red,kids_tee,ffffff.u2.jpg)

(http://ih2.redbubble.net/image.14731660.5214/fig,orange,mens,ffffff.u2.jpg)

Oh chibi-esque versions of licensed characters - never gets old -

http://www.redbubble.com/people/nemons/shop
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: shaolin_monkey 12 September, 2013, 04:40:50 PM: Oh man, they're so cool! Can we have an officially sanctioned version please?!?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: SmallBlueThing 18 November, 2013, 05:22:25 PM: Not 2000AD, but here's one guaranteed to send an "ageing goth" of hereabout it's a HULK SMASH rage:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mens-T-Shirt-Hookjaw-Retro-Comic-Page-/171153474063?pt=UK_Men_s_T_Shirts&var=&hash=item27d98ac20f

SBT
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jim_Campbell 18 November, 2013, 05:37:15 PM: : SmallBlueThing 18 November, 2013, 05:22:25 PM
Not 2000AD, but here's one guaranteed to send an "ageing goth" of hereabout it's a HULK SMASH rage:

Hah. Reported. Well spotted!

Cheers

Jim
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: BPP 18 November, 2013, 05:51:20 PM: Is this the thread to report the IDW Judge Death art?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: COMMANDO FORCES 29 December, 2013, 03:59:35 PM: I was bored in the wee hours and saw this LIAM SHARP: DREDD POSTER (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130834123174&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:GB:1123) on ebay. I knew that he only did a certain amount of posters and sold them himself, as myself and Pete collected ours at KAPOW. I knew it was a pirate job, just by reading what the seller wrote in all his rubbish further down his listing.

I asked him if he had the rights to this poster and his reply is as follows - We get our images from a digital database so I honesty wouldn't know about any specific limitations that were originally put in place. If you have any concerns you should raise them with the copyright holder.

The cheeky git, 'SPECIFIC LIMITATIONS' it ain't your image you piss taker.

I sent a short report (they don't give you many characters to play with) to ebay, saying that he has no right to use this image!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: vzzbux 20 January, 2014, 01:17:47 PM: Fully licenced product?? Is this true? I double doubt it.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-FUN-PARTY-FACE-MASK-LICENSED-PRODUCT-2000-AD-2000AD-/141015511417?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item20d52df179

V
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: strontium71 20 January, 2014, 01:29:51 PM: I'm pretty sure they are genuine , Mr V - they came in singles and a multipack if I remember.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: COMMANDO FORCES 20 January, 2014, 02:19:38 PM: Yep, those are genuine. I think it's the same company that brought out the standees. Before you ask, yes I bought the multipack ;)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: vzzbux 20 January, 2014, 02:31:13 PM: No problem. Just never seen these before.

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: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: shaolin_monkey 20 January, 2014, 03:07:26 PM: : COMMANDO FORCES 20 January, 2014, 02:19:38 PM
Yep, those are genuine. I think it's the same company that brought out the standees. Before you ask, yes I bought the multipack ;)

Do you still have that Youtube clip of one in action, when discussing ventilation with our US friends?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spaceghost 14 February, 2014, 03:50:27 PM: Anyone seen a video game called Broforce before? It looks pretty cool actually, but one of the characters looks awfully familiar -

http://broforce.wikia.com/wiki/Bro_Dredd

Is this above board or do Rebellion need to unleash the fury?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: CrazyFoxMachine 14 February, 2014, 04:35:46 PM: "Bro Dredd is based on the fictional character Judge Dredd from the action film with the same name, Judge Dredd."

That makes me weep.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jon 14 February, 2014, 04:43:11 PM: : CrazyFoxMachine 14 February, 2014, 04:35:46 PM
"Bro Dredd is based on the fictional character Judge Dredd from the action film with the same name, Judge Dredd."

That makes me weep.

So why is he wearing the comic-style helmet rather then the Stallone movie-style helmet?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: CrazyFoxMachine 14 February, 2014, 05:34:40 PM: I'd say the wiki was written by someone who's only aware of the film... whereas in the game..

(http://www.pixenli.com/images/1386/1386097035087175300.gif)

who knows. He has yellow gloves - although the gun is (slightly) filmy.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jon 14 February, 2014, 06:05:39 PM: Meh. They lost me at "Bro".
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spaceghost 14 February, 2014, 06:35:10 PM: I think they have to be from an 80's/90's action film to qualify as a playable character, so comic Dredd gets in on a technicality.

It's at the testing stage at the moment but they'll be releasing a full version to buy on the Steam website soon. I can't imagine Rebellion standing by while another video game company profits from Dredd's name and likeness.
: Re: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: sheldipez 14 February, 2014, 06:52:31 PM: If you check that wiki all of their characters are parodies
: Re: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: The Enigmatic Dr X 14 February, 2014, 06:56:28 PM: : sheldipez 14 February, 2014, 06:52:31 PM
If you check that wiki all of their characters are parodies

Now, y'see, that's a good 'un. Just a couple of quick points:

(a) to be a parody, you have to do more than just say "It's a parody."
(b) the whole parody thing doesn't apply everywhere. It's mostly in the USA (which is obviously the Only Place That Counts) with some variations elsewhere.

Helpful fact: The parody exceptions regarding copyright derive from the US Constitutional Right to free speech. The UK has no such right.

As ever, I'm just saying.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: SuperSurfer 18 February, 2014, 12:44:36 AM: Tribute or IP infringement?

Good idea actually.

(http://7.media.bustedtees.cvcdn.com/7/-/bustedtees.4d354f17-adda-4285-9776-52d51ea9eb54.jpg)(http://3.media.bustedtees.cvcdn.com/d/-/bustedtees.a364841d-566a-475b-a91a-6fe0ea10.gif)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Bat King 24 February, 2014, 01:00:11 AM: : COMMANDO FORCES 29 December, 2013, 03:59:35 PM
I was bored in the wee hours and saw this LIAM SHARP: DREDD POSTER (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130834123174&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:GB:1123) on ebay. I knew that he only did a certain amount of posters and sold them himself, as myself and Pete collected ours at KAPOW. I knew it was a pirate job, just by reading what the seller wrote in all his rubbish further down his listing.

I asked him if he had the rights to this poster and his reply is as follows - We get our images from a digital database so I honesty wouldn't know about any specific limitations that were originally put in place. If you have any concerns you should raise them with the copyright holder.

The cheeky git, 'SPECIFIC LIMITATIONS' it ain't your image you piss taker.

I sent a short report (they don't give you many characters to play with) to ebay, saying that he has no right to use this image!

This is still on e-bay....

Description is great & includes 'If you have a specific image or celebritie in mind'.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: CrazyFoxMachine 02 May, 2014, 02:05:40 PM: (http://www.qwertee.com/images/designs/full/44042.jpg)

Can't remember if Qwertee counts or not...

http://www.qwertee.com/product/death-vader-judge-darth
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: hippynumber1 02 May, 2014, 02:09:20 PM: Just had somebody post this to the 2000AD original art group on facebook; needless to say, he has been removed.

http://leagueofwood.bigcartel.com/product/dredd

(http://i.imgur.com/5QLhbvH.jpg)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: CrazyFoxMachine 02 May, 2014, 04:46:33 PM: : hippynumber1 02 May, 2014, 02:09:20 PM
Just had somebody post this to the 2000AD original art group on facebook; needless to say, he has been removed.

He's not the only one ::)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Dash Decent 05 May, 2014, 01:58:08 PM: This guy sells scanned copies of old Fleetway titles (and lots more besides) as PDFs on disk or memory stick.

He's selling a digital Action, Starlord and Tornado collection and his free downloads include a copy of Starlord with Ro-busters and Strontium Dog in it.

http://www.yootha.com/free-pdf-download-23-w.asp
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Steve Green 06 May, 2014, 03:08:23 PM: A thread has already been deleted on this.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Steve Green 06 May, 2014, 05:40:07 PM: As has the post I'm referring to...
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: COMMANDO FORCES 06 May, 2014, 05:43:11 PM: Talking to yourself Steve :lol:
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Steve Green 06 May, 2014, 06:24:48 PM: It feels like it whenever I talk about the deficiencies of Kickstarters, so I'm used to it...
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: kraken 21 May, 2014, 12:32:14 AM: Hmmm......

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Art-Figure-16-Heavy-Armoured-Special-Cop-Box-Set-Preorder-AR013Z-/271497089169
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: hippynumber1 21 May, 2014, 12:18:26 PM: All references to this item have previously been removed. Do not look.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Third Estate Ned 04 July, 2014, 03:16:40 PM: : kraken 21 May, 2014, 12:32:14 AM
Hmmm......

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Art-Figure-16-Heavy-Armoured-Special-Cop-Box-Set-Preorder-AR013Z-/271497089169

Is this "Art Figure"...

http://www.cineblog.it/post/402523/dredd-laction-figure-di-karl-urban-nel-reboot-2012 (http://www.cineblog.it/post/402523/dredd-laction-figure-di-karl-urban-nel-reboot-2012)

...the same thing as was reported in the quote at the top? The link doesn't show it.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: dweezil2 15 July, 2014, 03:48:54 PM: Is this an official item?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Official-Judge-Dredd-Cover-Art-Mens-T-Shirt-/191163962676?pt=UK_Men_s_T_Shirts&var=&hash=item2c82429534
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jim_Campbell 15 July, 2014, 04:01:11 PM: : Third Estate Ned 04 July, 2014, 03:16:40 PM
...the same thing as was reported in the quote at the top? The link doesn't show it.

There's a reason for that! But yes, it is. However, the supposed link to buy further down the article leads to a page that doesn't sell it, so I'm assuming Rebellion's efforts in that regard have been successful.

Cheers

Jim
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Dandontdare 09 October, 2014, 07:42:23 PM: Looks like the "Heavy Armoured Special Cop" has made a comeback:

http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,36063.msg847755.html#msg847755 (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,36063.msg847755.html#msg847755)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Art-Figures-1-6-Judge-Dredd-Heavy-Armoured-Special-Cop-NEW-in-hand-in-UK-/301347376209?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item4629b40c51 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Art-Figures-1-6-Judge-Dredd-Heavy-Armoured-Special-Cop-NEW-in-hand-in-UK-/301347376209?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item4629b40c51)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spikes 10 October, 2014, 06:16:53 PM: Anyone know if these are kosher or not, because i'd quite like one* - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mens-2000AD-Judge-Dredd-Apocalypse-Wars-T-Shirt-Yellow-Mega-City-Lawmaster-/331119149459

*I seem to recall a similar - if not identical, looking T-Shirt popping up before - on sale over in the US?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Steve Green 10 October, 2014, 06:42:54 PM: : Jim_Campbell 15 July, 2014, 04:01:11 PM
: Third Estate Ned 04 July, 2014, 03:16:40 PM
...the same thing as was reported in the quote at the top? The link doesn't show it.

There's a reason for that! But yes, it is. However, the supposed link to buy further down the article leads to a page that doesn't sell it, so I'm assuming Rebellion's efforts in that regard have been successful.

Cheers

Jim

Not really.

It just pushed it underground, I've seen from two sources that Direct Collectables (a UK based company) sold them after 'pulling them'
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Steve Green 10 October, 2014, 06:45:35 PM: But on the upside, someone ordering from eBay got a plastic necklace from a scammer when they ordered one.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jim_Campbell 28 November, 2014, 08:04:58 PM: Licensed product or knock-off?

http://www.leathernext.com/Movie_Replica_Jackets/Lawman+Vest+-+Neck+Roll

Cheers

Jim
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Steve Green 29 November, 2014, 10:13:01 AM: There are no licensed 2012 costume pieces - the closest being the Planet Replicas Dredd badge, but that's more of a display piece.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: johnnystress 06 January, 2015, 01:44:01 PM: "Zoom Up"

(https://img0.etsystatic.com/037/0/6899545/il_340x270.582450184_p5ma.jpg)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: CrazyFoxMachine 06 January, 2015, 02:19:41 PM: Link to shop https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/184298496/zoom-up-into-space-kids-pajama-shirt-red

Weird swipe, that one.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Hawkmumbler 06 January, 2015, 02:28:29 PM: Thats pretty sneaky but does it truly constitute IP infringement?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: The Enigmatic Dr X 06 January, 2015, 04:04:46 PM: Is it a trademark?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: CrazyFoxMachine 06 January, 2015, 11:55:57 PM: : Hawkmonger 06 January, 2015, 02:28:29 PM
Thats pretty ~~sneaky~~ lazy but does it truly constitute IP infringement?

That most douchey of acronyms: FTFY
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Tjm86 16 January, 2015, 04:54:05 PM: just noticed this little item ...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000AD-DIGITAL-COMIC-COLLECTION-/171637990811?pt=UK_Books_comics_Magazines_UK_Comics_ET&hash=item27f66be59b (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000AD-DIGITAL-COMIC-COLLECTION-/171637990811?pt=UK_Books_comics_Magazines_UK_Comics_ET&hash=item27f66be59b)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Fungus 16 January, 2015, 05:10:39 PM: : Tjm86 16 January, 2015, 04:54:05 PM
just noticed this little item ...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000AD-DIGITAL-COMIC-COLLECTION-/171637990811?pt=UK_Books_comics_Magazines_UK_Comics_ET&hash=item27f66be59b (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000AD-DIGITAL-COMIC-COLLECTION-/171637990811?pt=UK_Books_comics_Magazines_UK_Comics_ET&hash=item27f66be59b)

Which poses questions....

Why no screenshots? What quality are we talking?

You are asked to 'bid' on this? Will the next buyer pay more/less when the next batch is burned?

The future makes my head hurt.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: shaolin_monkey 25 January, 2015, 05:49:25 PM: This popped on on FB. Funny, but doesn't seem legit:

http://www.mysoti.com/designer/slightlywrong/product/1782076/slightlywrong--tshirt--JUDGE-DREAD
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spaceghost 06 February, 2015, 08:31:15 AM: Someone on the 'Brit-Cit Judges' Facebook group is promoting the sale of a 1:3 movie Dredd statue (2ft tall apparently) once they collect a 'bulk order'.

Pretty sure it's not licensed.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jim_Campbell 06 February, 2015, 08:36:08 AM: For people who supposedly love the comic, there seem to be an awful lot of them prepared to either buy, supply, or even produce bootleg product, which is directly harmful to that comic. The cognitive dissonance is just breathtaking.

Cheers

Jim
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spaceghost 06 February, 2015, 09:11:59 AM: And I've just been attacked, personally insulted and ultimately banned from the group for asking perfectly legitimate questions about it.

What a bunch of massive cunts.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jim_Campbell 06 February, 2015, 09:15:05 AM: : Spaceghost 06 February, 2015, 09:11:59 AM
And I've just been attacked, personally insulted and ultimately banned from the group for asking perfectly legitimate questions about it.

What a bunch of massive cunts.

As I say: cognitive dissonance. Some people get surprisingly pissy when confronted with their own massive hypocrisy, but I'm sorry to hear it turned so unpleasant for you. That shit is never fun.

Cheers

Jim
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Richmond Clements 06 February, 2015, 09:15:41 AM: It's okay to buy knock-off stuff if you get someone to do it for you, apparently.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Steve Green 06 February, 2015, 09:33:07 AM: Yeah, even Carlos himself posting to say they get no money from that figure was waved away by one, more interested in the definition of it not being a bootleg in China.

I've given up pointing this out to them - especially when they get very irritated by someone else ripping off anything they themselves make.

I can see an argument for turning a blind eye where movie costumes were made up to a point - that seemed to be making the best out of a bad situation with regards to the movie license.

Having movie judges wandering around cons, be available for promo was arguably useful for Rebellion (Microsoft used some of those unlicensed judges for promo at Eurogame for Dredd vs Zombies)

Unfortunately it looks like people just take advantage of this, and make whatever arguments to justify making it, or buying it.

It usually boils down to 'Rebellion are crushing out creativity! Why aren't they like billion dollar industries like Star Wars who can take a hit of this stuff being made?'

or

'They've sold load of these unlicensed figures, that proves there is a market - and in no way would any potential licensee question that it a) might be flooded, and b) why should they try to compete with a bootleg that doesn't have to pay licensing fees or bother with any of that shit'
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spaceghost 06 February, 2015, 10:00:48 AM: : Jim_Campbell 06 February, 2015, 09:15:05 AM
: Spaceghost 06 February, 2015, 09:11:59 AM
And I've just been attacked, personally insulted and ultimately banned from the group for asking perfectly legitimate questions about it.

What a bunch of massive cunts.

As I say: cognitive dissonance. Some people get surprisingly pissy when confronted with their own massive hypocrisy, but I'm sorry to hear it turned so unpleasant for you. That shit is never fun.

Cheers

Jim

Cheers Jim.

No, it's not nice. Although, after being rounded on and abused by a load of unreasonable men in Judge uniforms, I've got more of an idea of what it must be like to live in Mega City One.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Hawkmumbler 06 February, 2015, 10:03:52 AM: Yeah, I saw that. Disgusting. I've now left the geoup myself.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Judge Mental 06 February, 2015, 10:13:07 AM: But when someone on here has the art figure that's ok?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jim_Campbell 06 February, 2015, 10:14:56 AM: : Judge Mental 06 February, 2015, 10:13:07 AM
But when someone on here has the art figure that's ok?

Not sure what figure you're referring to, but in my mind it's pretty straightforward: licensed product = OK; not licensed product = not OK.

Cheers

Jim
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Judge Mental 06 February, 2015, 10:18:43 AM: : Jim_Campbell 06 February, 2015, 10:14:56 AM
: Judge Mental 06 February, 2015, 10:13:07 AM
But when someone on here has the art figure that's ok?

Not sure what figure you're referring to, but in my mind it's pretty straightforward: licensed product = OK; not licensed product = not OK.

Cheers

Jim

I have seen a picture with a member here with the Art figure someone who actually post that is wrong for anyone to buy knock offs
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jim_Campbell 06 February, 2015, 10:25:30 AM: : Judge Mental 06 February, 2015, 10:18:43 AM
I have seen a picture with a member here with the Art figure someone who actually post that is wrong for anyone to buy knock offs

Sorry, I'm struggling to work out what you're trying to say here, or what you're referring to when you say "Art figure".

I think my position on this is pretty clear: if it's licensed, great; if it's not then I don't care how good the product is, it's not OK to buy it. If other people can square such a purchase with their conscience, well, that's up to them but if they then choose to denounce other people for doing the same then they deserve to be called out for being massive fucking hypocrites.

Jim
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Hawkmumbler 06 February, 2015, 10:27:07 AM: If anyone had boasted buying any of the unlicensed figures on here i'm sure Jim would have been the first in line to grill them. I honestly don't remember seeing anyone post a picture on it.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Judge Mental 06 February, 2015, 10:28:21 AM: : Jim_Campbell 06 February, 2015, 10:25:30 AM
: Judge Mental 06 February, 2015, 10:18:43 AM
I have seen a picture with a member here with the Art figure someone who actually post that is wrong for anyone to buy knock offs

Sorry, I'm struggling to work out what you're trying to say here, or what you're referring to when you say "Art figure".

I think my position on this is pretty clear: if it's licensed, great; if it's not then I don't care how good the product is, it's not OK to buy it. If other people can square such a purchase with their conscience, well, that's up to them but if they then choose to denounce other people for doing the same then they deserve to be called out for being massive fucking hypocrites.

Jim

The Chinese Dredd action figure art figures were who made it, I never said they boasted I said I saw a pic of the person having one
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jim_Campbell 06 February, 2015, 10:38:10 AM: : Judge Mental 06 February, 2015, 10:28:21 AM
The Chinese Dredd action figure art figures were who made it, I never said they boasted I said I saw a pic of the person having one

Lots of people have bought them, including some people I quite like. I can understand the temptation — it's a fantastic figure. I won't pretend I'm not disappointed that they've done so, but we've all done things that have disappointed other people — I'm not going to be a dick about it.

On the other hand, if you're going to make a point of denouncing unlicensed products and/or the purchase of same, and then do exactly that, you deserve calling out as a hypocrite.

(All of which has to be balanced against the fact that you've only made three posts on this forum, all on this thread in the last few minutes which raises a little suspicion that you're really just stirring.)

Jim
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Steve Green 06 February, 2015, 10:40:23 AM: Well put.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Judge Mental 06 February, 2015, 10:43:05 AM: : Jim_Campbell 06 February, 2015, 10:38:10 AM
: Judge Mental 06 February, 2015, 10:28:21 AM
The Chinese Dredd action figure art figures were who made it, I never said they boasted I said I saw a pic of the person having one

Lots of people have bought them, including some people I quite like. I can understand the temptation — it's a fantastic figure. I won't pretend I'm not disappointed that they've done so, but we've all done things that have disappointed other people — I'm not going to be a dick about it.

On the other hand, if you're going to make a point of denouncing unlicensed products and/or the purchase of same, and then do exactly that, you deserve calling out as a hypocrite.

(All of which has to be balanced against the fact that you've only made three posts on this forum, all on this thread in the last few minutes which raises a little suspicion that you're really just stirring.)

Jim

Im sorry so by asking a question im stirring which apparently you have all just said is wrong to another member here earlier today when the same thing happened to him elsewhere so who are the Hypocrites now?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jim_Campbell 06 February, 2015, 10:45:20 AM: : Judge Mental 06 February, 2015, 10:43:05 AM
Im sorry so by asking a question im stirring which apparently you have all just said is wrong to another member here earlier today when the same thing happened to him elsewhere so who are the Hypocrites now?

I'm sorry, I genuinely can't extract your meaning from that sentence. I apologise if English isn't your first language but if you've got something to say, bloody well say it.

Jim
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Judge Mental 06 February, 2015, 10:48:43 AM: Forget it I have been lurking here awhile but if a persons importance is decided by their post count I would rather not stay, I asked a question but that's stirring sorry to have taken your time
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jim_Campbell 06 February, 2015, 10:52:42 AM: : Judge Mental 06 February, 2015, 10:48:43 AM
Forget it I have been lurking here awhile but if a persons importance is decided by their post count I would rather not stay, I asked a question but that's stirring sorry to have taken your time

I didn't say any such thing, I just genuinely can't work out what you're trying to say. I don't think I could have been any clearer: if someone who's bought one of these things is also slagging people off for buying them, then — in my opinion — that person is a hypocrite. I don't know how much more clearly I can state that.

Jim
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Judge Mental 06 February, 2015, 10:55:32 AM: : Jim_Campbell 06 February, 2015, 10:38:10 AM
(All of which has to be balanced against the fact that you've only made three posts on this forum, all on this thread in the last few minutes which raises a little suspicion that you're really just stirring.)

Jim

Ok but I hope you will call out those that are hypocrites
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Dandontdare 06 February, 2015, 11:14:16 AM: the person that I think you refer to (it was the chap who's making a 1/6 lawmaster) said that he was given the figure as a present and didn't buy it - now that may or may not be true, but I wouldn't expect someone to throw away something that had been given them, but the point stands - Don't support the rip-off merchants.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Judge Mental 06 February, 2015, 11:19:09 AM: Not sure who that person is
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: Richmond Clements 06 February, 2015, 11:55:04 AM: There's a world of difference between scratch building or converting figures, as some here do (and I *think* that's what you are talking about) and a company creating a product without permission, and people buying that product KNOWING IT IS ILLEGAL.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Judge Mental 06 February, 2015, 11:59:31 AM: Again im talking about seeing a picture of a member here with this bootleg figure a member that posts on this thread and is always saying bootlegs are wrong, how he got the figure I do not know but surely even if its a gift you would refuse it?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Hawkmumbler 06 February, 2015, 12:02:57 PM: It would help if we knew who you're talking about.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Richmond Clements 06 February, 2015, 12:04:53 PM: : Judge Mental 06 February, 2015, 11:59:31 AM
Again im talking about seeing a picture of a member here with this bootleg figure a member that posts on this thread and is always saying bootlegs are wrong, how he got the figure I do not know but surely even if its a gift you would refuse it?

Gotcha. Agreed.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Link Prime 06 February, 2015, 12:05:16 PM: : Hawkmonger 06 February, 2015, 12:02:57 PM
It would help if we knew who you're talking about.

It's obviously Mike Molcher.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jim_Campbell 06 February, 2015, 12:07:18 PM: Yeah. Sorry, we're not mind readers. I'm not aware of someone taking a strong anti-bootlegging stance on here and being pictured with knock-off merchandise here (or anywhere else). We're a diverse lot with different interests (apart from the Galaxy's Greatest, obviously) and we aren't all Facebook friends, we don't all follow each other on Twitter and only a small number have slept with other forum members.

Cheers

Jim
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Molch-R 06 February, 2015, 12:18:45 PM: : Jim_Campbell 06 February, 2015, 12:07:18 PM
only a small number have slept with other forum members.

You promised you wouldn't tell :(
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Dandontdare 06 February, 2015, 12:20:19 PM: This is the one I thought you might mean: http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?topic=41489.0 (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?topic=41489.0)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: dancornwell 06 February, 2015, 02:04:01 PM: Feel as guilty as sin now. I have bought one and to be honest I wasn't really thinking about the licensing at the time. It was cheap and I just wanted it. But I totally understand that it's taking money from the Galaxy's greatest and now I feel..... well just wrong. I won't be binning it but I won't be buying boot leg stuff again. Next time I'll do a little reserch before hand. Apologies if this has got people's backs up and I just hope this hasn't harmed any chance I had to work with Tharg at some point.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spaceghost 06 February, 2015, 02:09:29 PM: As Jim said earlier on, I think we can all see how you might be tempted to buy it, it's a great looking figure. I don't think anybody wants to carry out a witch hunt on here. I wouldn't buy unlicensed products personally, but it's not going to make me despise anyone.

Much worse is that the Brit-Cit Judges have a pretty big following on Facebook, and one of the members is actively promoting and soliciting orders for an unofficial, unlicensed product.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: dancornwell 06 February, 2015, 02:16:16 PM: Oh I wouldnt and didn't advertise the seller. Like I said, I saw it, and bought it. Only after the event did I realise it wasn't Legit. Although when the box says Artistic interprition it should've been a giveaway. You live and learn.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jim_Campbell 06 February, 2015, 02:28:15 PM: : Spaceghost 06 February, 2015, 02:09:29 PM
I don't think anybody wants to carry out a witch hunt on here.

(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb36/jimcampbell2000/Burn_Im_zpsjd2qi70b.jpg)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Zenith 666 06 February, 2015, 02:34:06 PM: Ha ha burn em burn em all.Surely scratch building is allowed as long as it's not for profit.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: dancornwell 06 February, 2015, 02:34:53 PM: Hahaha. Do it quickly though please!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Steve Green 06 February, 2015, 02:35:44 PM: I'm guessing that with the sequel dead, it will be less of a problem (on the movie front) anyway.

Although there is the problem of 3D models being uploaded to the net, which anyone can print off (or make moulds of) to sell on.

PR had to deal with someone copying their version of the MK2 and uploading that - even though the initial person was asking for no money, it still has a financial impact on licensed products and Rebellion, and the creators who get a cut.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: dancornwell 06 February, 2015, 02:40:44 PM: My Mrs recently bought me a Dredd movie helmet made by Mad-law, don't know what catagery that comes under. Not recieved it yet. If it's bootleg again I'm not going to be very popular on here!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Steve Green 06 February, 2015, 02:47:44 PM: That would be an ~~ecumenical matter~~ recast.

The way it usually goes is, people will either make an unofficial prop, or buy screen used props when they're auctioned, and make a mould.

They will then sell these unlicensed props.

Some people, recasters, will make a copy of that and sell those.

This is frowned upon in the prop-making community, despite the original being unlicensed as well, and often leads to handbags.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Colin Zeal 06 February, 2015, 02:48:40 PM: My girlfriend recently bought me a Judge Dredd t-shirt. The first thought that ran through my mind was "I bet this isn't a Rebellion product." Luckily I managed to say thanks without mentioning this.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Viking Justice 06 February, 2015, 03:05:30 PM: I don't agree with the figure, and won't buy it. Although I have to confess to owning one or two "one offs", which are unique and were either commission, or I came across and bought for my collection for their quality and their unique nature. The prototype Lawgiver Mark 1, built for Termight Replicas, but never taken up or produced, for instance. I don't own many of these things, and would rather see them preserved than junked.

To return to this figure, it's not alone as an IP infringement, nor is BritCit Judges unique, as a group, in "promoting" such things (as a group, we don't, however we do allow our members a certain freedom of speech). So why this directed attack on BritCit? Other UK Judge groups produce teeshirts with Judge images, or references, or items with similar reference or imagery that is directly Dredd-related. I've raised this point previously, and yet a complete blind eye is turned to it, simply because most of these are produce through RedBubble. Maybe the maker of this statue should do the same, and no one here would mind? Or is it the BritCit connection that has some - not all - panties in a twist? It sometimes seems that way.

And as for labelling us all (all 1,302 of us) a shower of "cunts", well, there are no words.

It seems when it comes to IP and Dredd, the members here (the "true fans" according to Space Ghost - Jesus, you've acceded to the radicalisation of Dredd, a bloody comic book character - we must all be infidels and non-believers, I guess, and therefore beneath you? Tsk) pick and choose their gripes. M

Jim, I have nothing but respect for you and your views. Same for a few others. But some of you self-styled "elite" need to take a look at yourselves and those you associate with before throwing stones and epithets.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spaceghost 06 February, 2015, 03:18:40 PM: : Viking Justice 06 February, 2015, 03:05:30 PM
(the "true fans" according to Space Ghost - Jesus, you've acceded to the radicalisation of Dredd, a bloody comic book character - we must all be infidels and non-believers, I guess, and therefore beneath you? Tsk)

Absolutely, wilfully ridiculous.

I clarified what I meant by that statement before I was banished to the fucking Phantom Zone and whitewashed out of history on Facebook.

If you are a TRUE FAN, you won't HARM the comic and creators by buying unofficial, unlicensed product.

If you do this, you do not, in my opinion, fall into the definition of a true fan.

And as for calling everyone in the group cunts, I was only refering to everyone who had any direct interaction with me, all of whom were cunts.
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: Molch-R 06 February, 2015, 03:24:16 PM: This thread will calm down right now and the slinging about of insults will stop.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spaceghost 06 February, 2015, 03:32:18 PM: Apologies Mike.

I'm still feeling a bit angry about the nasty insults and unwarranted bile directed at me over on the Facebook group.

I should have called them a bunch of grexnix's.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Viking Justice 06 February, 2015, 03:35:01 PM: One of the reasons you were banned was, I understand, your use of foul language, and that particular insult, of which you seem so fond.

I have insulted no one, I have asked what I believe to be relevant questions, which have been somewhat lost in the red mist of response.

As I said, I respect most of the people who post here.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Richmond Clements 06 February, 2015, 03:37:05 PM: Jim, I have nothing but respect for you and your views. Same for a few others. But some of you self-styled "elite" need to take a look at yourselves and those you associate with before throwing stones and epithets.

Silly 'self styled elite remark aside, it's worth pointing out that posting on the same board as someone is not the same as associating with them.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spaceghost 06 February, 2015, 03:44:24 PM: I may have resorted to using that word after the barrage of comments personally insulting me made me feel like asserting myself a bit. I doubt that was the reason I was banned though.

Anyway, to answer your question, and just for clarity -

Buying unlicensed merchandise = bad.
Selling unlicensed merchandise = bad.

Nothing to do with which cosplay group is doing it (I only followed Brit-Cit Judges so was only aware of what they were doing), to suggest otherwise hints at paranoia.

It's just bad.

Hope that cleared things up.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jim_Campbell 06 February, 2015, 03:44:44 PM: : Viking Justice 06 February, 2015, 03:05:30 PM
So why this directed attack on BritCit?

It's not. You'll notice that this thread runs to 27 pages because we know Rebellion can't have eyes everywhere and we try to help out if we spot anything we think might be iffy. There's no difference between unlicensed product A and unlicensed product B as far as I'm concerned. One-off fan made labour of love: fine. One-off fan made labour of love on eBay: not so fine but probably not worth Rebellion's time tackling. As soon as it's into multiples, it's product — if the person(s) making that product expect to make money off it, then they should share some of that money with the IP holder in the form of a licensing agreement.

I don't think this is either difficult to grasp or controversial. As a supporter of this particular collection of IP, I don't want to encourage or support any attempts to circumvent such a basic reciprocal arrangement.

Cheers

Jim
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Viking Justice 06 February, 2015, 04:18:42 PM: As I said, I agree with you on this figure and on the subject of IP. I am aware it runs to 27 pages, over a considerable length of time. But I wondered why anyone choosing to monitor the selling or promotion of unlicensed goods around Facebook would subscribe to only one group and paint us all as being the bad guys over this. As I said, 1,302 members, and growing daily. And most do NOT own the figure or have any interest in doing so. Collectors are collectors and would collect a beer mat if you shoved Dredd on it. That's been evidenced in this forum quite often, in the past.

The self styled elite doesn't refer to you all by any means and I think I said I respect most of those posting, already. I don't respect those who set themselves up as an authority on what is and is not a "true fan".

To play Devil's Advocate, one of our members has just posted that our group reignited his love of Dredd, leading him to buy back progs, subscribe to everything including the Mega-Collection and to buy various licensed goods as well as the Case Files. That's a considerable spend in Rebellion's coffers from one person (not even a drop in the ocean, financially, I know) but then he buys this figure and is labelled as not a true fan, and told he is harming Rebellion. Can you understand his mixed feelings on the subject? While I have already said (repeatedly) that I disagree with the figure, I can understand and empathise with his annoyance at this label, which he viewed as little more than an insult. And he wasn't alone. There are several fans in our group who are owners, and each collects Dredd gear, which means Rebellion and Planet Replicas. But as collectors (it seems to be a malady?) they also wish to own some of the other items produced out there.

I am not excusing them, I am merely pointing out that they pay out with one hand, and are then told they are taking away with the other.

I am aware of the reasoning behind the argument that it harms Rebellion, and Planet Replicas licence. As I said, I tend not to buy anything that would harm either one, despite wanting several items (a doll, to me isn't one of those things) for their quality and finish. They aren't official, they aren't licensed, so I'll take a pass, much as it sometimes pains me. I have followed the character and the comic far too long to jeopardise anything - particularly in this economic climate.

But this whole "true fan" malarkey irks me. And it IS ridiculous.

Richmond, I meant associate in person, not merely by being on the same board. I hope that clears this up.

And Lee, thank you for clarifying that I am not, in your opinion, a cunt.

As an aside, may I ask why this sort of terminology or language is used so freely here? We do not allow it in our group, and I am merely curious. In person, to my face, I have never put up with it, as it pushes my "offended" button. I suppose everyone is different, but most people I know, if you call them that as a pejorative, in person, will take decisive action against you... It simply seems needlessly abusive, offensive and inflammatory - "laddish" and "chavvish" - in any reasoned and rational discussion.

And if you believe others are being abusive towards you, in such groups, isn't it best to approach the admins about it, rather than using offensive and even more inflammatory language? Or is that just me?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jim_Campbell 06 February, 2015, 04:22:33 PM: : Viking Justice 06 February, 2015, 04:18:42 PM
But I wondered why anyone choosing to monitor the selling or promotion of unlicensed goods around Facebook would subscribe to only one group and paint us all as being the bad guys over this.

But that's not what happened, is it? Someone who subscribed to your group for entirely other reasons happened to spot someone touting an unlicensed product and mentioned it here because — since the FB group is closed — it's not something Rebellion would necessarily have found out about by chance.

Cheers

Jim
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Viking Justice 06 February, 2015, 04:34:12 PM: Not by chance, no, Jim. But when the man behind Planet Replicas is a member if our group, I'd be surprised if they didn't find out about it.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Viking Justice 06 February, 2015, 04:43:36 PM: And, just to explain, and to further my issue with the "true fan" bit, what you said, in BritCit Judges, was that you would deal with your IP complaint by reporting it, on the thread set up for such matters, on the 2000AD forum (no problems or issues so far) but then your exact words were " where the true fans are".

THAT is what our members have taken exception to, and what irked me, personally. If they aren't members here, well, by your reasoning - your own words - they aren't "true fans".

As I said. Tsk.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jim_Campbell 06 February, 2015, 04:45:51 PM: : Viking Justice 06 February, 2015, 04:34:12 PM
Not by chance, no, Jim. But when the man behind Planet Replicas is a member if our group, I'd be surprised if they didn't find out about it.

Yes, but what you described (someone "choosing to monitor the selling or promotion of unlicensed goods around Facebook would subscribe to only one group and paint us all as being the bad guys") still isn't what happened, is it? I'm not actually sure what point you're trying to make, and I'm not convinced you are either.

Cheers

Jim
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: Viking Justice 06 February, 2015, 04:57:27 PM: I've made several points and asked several questions, Jim, and so far no one seems willing to answer anything much more other than you now apparently trying to portray me as confused or befuddled. I'm neither, thanks.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Viking Justice 06 February, 2015, 05:04:37 PM: Lee joined our group 8 months ago. In that time, this true fan, with all his knowledge and experience contributed nothing to the entire board, other than to kick this off, this morning. Furthermore, his own profile, here, has suggested to our members that he was there as a lurker, while his comments, this morning, have suggested to them that his sole purpose for being there seems to have been to spy on kit being produced and report through this thread. Those are the perceptions of our group, following this mornings events.

I have already made the point about him bandying the words "true fan" about. I'm not sure how much more clear I can be about that, or what it is that you are failing to understand, as to why it has annoyed our members so. You have to be a member here to be a "true fan". :/

I also made the point, as Devils Advocate, about the lad who has ploughed his spare cash into collecting the Rebellion publications and back issues, and a Planet Replicas items, only to now be told he isn't a fan and is harming Rebellion, because he purchased a bootleg figure.

While I am on, isn't the situation that Rebellion don't, in fact, own the rights to the movie licenced gear? That Planet Replicas were all set to buy the licence for the movie gear from Rebellion, but this fell through, because Rebellion don't own these rights?

If I have that wrong, then I apologise. I am clearly misinformed.

If I have that right, though, then in what way, shape or form is buying this knockoff of the movie figure - to which neither Rebellion nor PR own the rights - going to hurt either one?
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: Spikes 06 February, 2015, 05:27:56 PM: ^ Go away!
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: Viking Justice 06 February, 2015, 05:30:46 PM: ^No
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: Richmond Clements 06 February, 2015, 05:42:52 PM: ^don't. That ain't how we roll.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spikes 06 February, 2015, 05:44:10 PM: : Richmond Clements 06 February, 2015, 05:42:52 PM
^don't. That ain't how we roll.

True, that.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: dancornwell 06 February, 2015, 06:05:34 PM: Just wondered, is it an illegal product? If not, why? Didn't want to open this can of worms. But like I said, I saw it and bought it. I don't normally check the property rights of things when I buy them, I'm too spontaneous really.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spaceghost 06 February, 2015, 06:12:48 PM: Okay. Firstly you're coming across as very paranoid and slightly deluded. Did you just actually accuse me of joining your group 8 months ago so I could spy on you all?

That's just...

The only reason I joined was to support other Dredd fans and see all the brilliant costumes you make. The reason I never gave any 'advice' is because I don't have the first idea about building a judge costume.

I commented today after having recently listened to a pod cast where RoboKeef from Rebellion was bemoaning the fact that having unlicensed merchandise on sale not only hurt the company financially, it just the chances of official stuff being released. When I saw your group's member brazenly hawking that statue, it made me angry.

I admit, I used the term 'true fan' solely to wind people up after suffering a torrent of abuse. Seems it worked. As for people being upset about the term, after what was said to me, I couldn't give a toss if they are annoyed or not.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Viking Justice 06 February, 2015, 06:41:07 PM: Okay, so you have admitted using that as windup, where before you stated otherwise. I can respect that you now admit your intent.

What I am trying to say to you - and which you and Jim seem to be missing - is that I am letting you know the perception of THE GROUP as opposed to me sitting with a tinfoil hat and babbling to myself about conspiracists. I leave that behaviour to other forum members here. (Or at least one of them - he knows who he is). You offended an entire group of people and then continued to do so here. You never said "those who spoke to me and were nasty are a bunch of massive..." You said "what a bunch of massive ..." And I'm not going to start repeating it. As I said, it's a word I avoid which I find deeply offensive and I'm not alone, clearly, by the response and PMs from members about you and your use of it.

The perception that you might have been doing what I suggested has also come across in several piss and messages, and bolstered by your own - perhaps unfortunate - byline that you are "going undercover". I don't believe any of our members would have had reason to notice you before. But now that they have, and when they see your conduct and comments in BritCit, and then the byline, they have perhaps put two and two together and made five. But that's something you have contributed to, albeit perhaps unwittingly, with your actions and use of words.

As I said before, you can't expect people not to get upset when you deliberately and repeatedly use offensive and inflammatory language like that.

And then now, you just say, tough. To the entire group, who you insulted and needled and then initially denied you had done so, saying it was just "wilfully ridiculous". Now it turns out it's not so ridiculous after all.

And you still haven't commented as to why you would pour petrol on flames like that, rather than going to admins. Would you do that here, on this board, with the likes of Richmond and Molcher? Just curious. And bewildered as to why a seemingly reasonable adult who is experienced in forums and boards (you have more than enough posts here to tell me that) would behave like that.

And still no rebuttal as to the rights issue, which might negate your argument and stance entirely...
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Viking Justice 06 February, 2015, 06:49:07 PM: Wow. Damn you iPhone and Apple. "Piss and messages"? Should be personal
Messages. That's some autospell going on there...
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jim_Campbell 06 February, 2015, 06:50:42 PM: The rights issue? I have it on very good authority that the influx of 'Heavy Armoured Cop' figures has torpedoed more than one license negotiation for a similar product. This is a pretty niche market and potential licensees are understandably reluctant to subject themselves to the expense of product development, plus licensing fees, when a substantial chunk of their potential market has already been taken by a Chinese knock-off.

This has had a direct effect on revenue for Rebellion and deprived John and Carlos of royalties. I feel confident asserting that if anyone who's okay with that is the sort of fan 2000AD can do without.

Jim
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Viking Justice 06 February, 2015, 06:59:18 PM: That's fine because I never once said I was that kind of fan. The opposite actually.

So you are saying that Rebellion DO own the movie rights to kit and costume?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Zenith 666 06 February, 2015, 07:07:45 PM: I don't see how the Dredd movie costume including Badge,Helmet,Eagle and Lawgiver could belong to anyone other than Rebellion as it's no more than a toned down version of Dredds original costume.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Viking Justice 06 February, 2015, 07:10:41 PM: The issue of rights can be more complicated than that, though. It has been said that the movie company own the rights for a prescribed period, unless they sell them on. I am asking whether this is correct, or whether Rebellion own the specific rights to the movie costume and equipment. I thought this would be the best place to ask...
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Zenith 666 06 February, 2015, 07:21:48 PM: Sorry I've quoted to "getting a Dredd 2" thread.still getting used too posting.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spaceghost 06 February, 2015, 07:36:42 PM: Are you being serious? The 'going under cover' signature refers to the fact that I went from using my team name to using Spaceghost again.

Are people honestly that paranoid that they believe anyone would have the time or inclination to make a career out of spying on their little club? I'm speechless to be honest.

As far as me resorting to using naughty words, it was on Facebook, not a forum, it all happened in about ten minutes, loads of people piled on and started calling me names so I suggested that the ringleader was coming across as "something of a cunt" for attacking me in such a personal manner. I was the victim. I was asking questions about the product being advertised and I was shut down as a result.

Of it makes things any better, I apologise to all the upstanding citizens of your group who were offended by my remarks, unless they were one of the two or three people who got at me. I doubt I'll be receiving a similar apology from your site.

Also, what makes you think I'm an authority on the status of Rebellion's IP licencing practice's? I can't answer your question about whether the movie uniform is their domain because I don't know.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Zenith 666 06 February, 2015, 07:48:27 PM: Nope I can't do quote properly.Molchers quote from January 13th.

The complete audio and visual rights reside with Rebellion and are currently optioned to DNA Films. All other trademark and copyright rights for Judge Dredd reside with Rebellion.

(Quote added for emphasis—IP)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jim_Campbell 06 February, 2015, 07:51:34 PM: Viking Justice: now you're splitting hairs like the apologist you claim not to be. The fact is: movie version or not, licensing deals directly affecting Rebellion's bottom line have been lost because potential licensees are deterred from entering the market because a large chunk of it has already been lost to the 'Heavy Armoured Cop' figure. That's money off the bottom line of 2000AD's publisher, and money out of the pockets of Dredd's creator. Again: anyone who's okay with that has no business calling themselves a fan.

Jim
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spaceghost 06 February, 2015, 07:53:21 PM: : Spaceghost 06 February, 2015, 07:36:42 PM
Are you being serious? The 'going under cover' signature refers to the fact that I went from using my team name to using Spaceghost again

Real name, not 'team name'.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Viking Justice 06 February, 2015, 08:04:29 PM: I asked a question to which I didn't know the answer. So now I'm an apologist and personally responsible for Carlos and John losing money. That respect I spoke about is rapidly diminishing if this is seriously the way you deal with people who won't kowtow to your way of thinking.

To repeat for the I don't how many time, I do NOT approve of the figure. I do NOT approve of John and Carlos and any other person or body losing money, which they would be due from this. If I DID, I'd have a bloody figure and I don't - for the very reason I have given. So do me a favour and quit trying to make out I do approve of any or all of this. Implications and twisting things seems to be a stock in trade here. First I'm confused and don't know what I'm saying? Now I'm an apologist for those cutting the creators out of their dues. I know that your occupation is putting words in people's mouths but cut it out with me, please. It does nothing but show me - and others - that you're coming over like some kind of a playground bully, determined to beat me down and paint me as a bad guy and not a true fan. It doesn't work.

Ghost, I shall pass all that on. Thank you for explaining it in a reasoned manner.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jim_Campbell 06 February, 2015, 08:07:32 PM: Grow the fuck up.

Jim
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Viking Justice 06 February, 2015, 08:10:33 PM: Jim, man, you are some sort of a child.

Zenith666 - thanks for that, that goes a long way to answering my question. Finding out the exact information regarding these things is difficult, but - in my opinion - necessary when you admin a group and will be answering the questions or addressing the remarks of others relating to Dredd and these issues.

THAT is why I was asking, not to apologise for anyone or anything, despite what some are attempting to portray. A reasoned informed answer, at last. Many thanks.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: A.Cow 07 February, 2015, 02:15:26 AM: Is this a bad time to announce my new range of "mutated bounty-hunter" tea-towels, available at reasonable price from my stall in Preston Market?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Grugz 07 February, 2015, 10:29:11 AM: : A.Cow 07 February, 2015, 02:15:26 AM
Is this a bad time to announce my new range of "mutated bounty-hunter" tea-towels, available at reasonable price from my stall in Preston Market?

:D
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Zenith 666 07 February, 2015, 10:38:12 AM: I really want that Apocalypse war Dredd t-shirt but I'm too afraid now and my "Gaze into the fist of Dredd" tee is getting a little tatty and I've seen them on ebay but not in the 2000ad shop.If you buy unlicensed I've heard the send Burdis around.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: TordelBack 07 February, 2015, 10:43:09 AM: It's been so long since we had a good inter-forum donnybrook*, I'd almost forgotten how ridiculous they were.

Everyone recognises that the judge cosplayers are a huge boost for the comic, and great entertainment in their build projects and appearances as well, and are by anyone's standards (ghastly term) 'true fans'. The issue of buying/selling unlicensed products is a separate issue: 2000AD's future depends on multiple sources of licensing revenue, unlicensed iterations of its brand makes that market more difficult. It's a Bad Thing for the future of the comic, even if the folk that buy this stuff also make a separate and no-doubt very significant contribution to Rebellion's coffers. This is an official thread for the reporting of the latter activity that we as a forum have enthusiastically embraced in defence of 'our' comic, anyone doing so can hardly be accused of malicious intent.

I know there's an argument that bootleg copies/ilegal downloads only increase the fanbase of a brand and lead to higher additional legitimate purchases (the 'box-set' effect). Rebellion must be aware of this theory, and have done the sums, but still ask that fans act to help them protect their IP - and thus it is done.

I also know that some knock-offs are ludicrously tempting especially when there are no ready legitimate alternatives- I have a hoard of lurid '80s gig tapes and some choice '90s pound-shop Star Warz tat in the attic that I absolutely love, not to mention a silver-and-red USCSS Nostromo and its Narcissus escape shuttle with wheels. But no-one would be wrong to call me a dick for buying these things, however glorious.

*The occasional ECBT2KAD spat hardly counts, we love each other really.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: I, Cosh 07 February, 2015, 11:23:13 AM: : TordelBack 07 February, 2015, 10:43:09 AM
Big load of sensible stuff
...
It's a Bad Thing
...
More of the same rational appraisal
Ah, you'd be a Good King TB.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jim_Campbell 07 February, 2015, 11:36:49 AM: : Zenith 666 07 February, 2015, 10:38:12 AM
If you buy unlicensed I've heard the send Burdis around.

Nah… you're fine if you get someone else to buy it for you.

Cheers

Jim
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jim_Campbell 07 February, 2015, 11:46:51 AM: : Viking Justice 06 February, 2015, 08:10:33 PM
Jim, man, you are some sort of a child.

Seriously? We've been treated to your 'self styled elite' crack, then this oh-so-witty 'putting words in people's mouths' zinger… I've done my best to answer your queries, and all we've been treated to is your paranoid fantasies about the spying on and persecution of your Facebook group and 'questions' couched in the language of an apologist for the very things you purport to condemn.

Forgive me if I characterise your position as confused: I only have the words you choose to type on which to base my conclusions.

Jim
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spaceghost 07 February, 2015, 12:54:04 PM: : The Cosh 07 February, 2015, 11:23:13 AM
: TordelBack 07 February, 2015, 10:43:09 AM
Big load of sensible stuff
...
It's a Bad Thing
...
More of the same rational appraisal
Ah, you'd be a Good King TB.

Yeah, here comes Professor Cardigan to tell everyone off. Your brand of reasonable diplomacy has no place here. Round these parts we settle things - INTERNET STYLE.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Olddevlin 07 February, 2015, 01:05:51 PM: Wow, I remember why I don't frequent these forums.

The last time I saw somebody get so wound up about being accused of not being a 'true fan', it was my friend for not knowing the lyrics to 'Bad' by Michael Jackson. It was 1987.

We were 9.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Bat King 07 February, 2015, 01:22:19 PM: : The Cosh 07 February, 2015, 11:23:13 AM
: TordelBack 07 February, 2015, 10:43:09 AM
Big load of sensible stuff
...
It's a Bad Thing
...
More of the same rational appraisal
Ah, you'd be a Good King TB.

Best... Quote... Ever...
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spaceghost 07 February, 2015, 01:23:40 PM: Can I just reiterate for the sake of clarity - I was in no way seriously suggesting that there is any such a thing as a 'true fan', or that I am in any way qualified to judge sometimes appreciation of anything as valid or invalid.

I used the term in order to wind up some clowns who were abusing me on a Facebook group.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Judge Mental 07 February, 2015, 01:27:09 PM: : Spaceghost 07 February, 2015, 01:23:40 PM
Can I just reiterate for the sake of clarity - I was in no way seriously suggesting that there is any such a thing as a 'true fan', or that I am in any way qualified to judge sometimes appreciation of anything as valid or invalid.

I used the term in order to wind up some clowns who were abusing me on a Facebook group.

Actually i saw that on Facebook and you used that term before any so called abuse
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: TordelBack 07 February, 2015, 01:41:05 PM: : Spaceghost 07 February, 2015, 12:54:04 PM
: The Cosh 07 February, 2015, 11:23:13 AM
: TordelBack 07 February, 2015, 10:43:09 AM
Big load of sensible stuff
...
It's a Bad Thing
...
More of the same rational appraisal
Ah, you'd be a Good King TB.

Yeah, here comes Professor Cardigan to tell everyone off. Your brand of reasonable diplomacy has no place here. Round these parts we settle things - INTERNET STYLE.

Time for a name change! Cosh had me considering Aerys Targaryen, Second of his name, but I prefer yours. :D
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: JOE SOAP 07 February, 2015, 01:43:43 PM: : Professor Cardigan 07 February, 2015, 01:41:05 PM
Time for a name change! :D

Turlough Tru-Fan
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: Spaceghost 07 February, 2015, 01:56:59 PM: : Judge Mental 07 February, 2015, 01:27:09 PM
: Spaceghost 07 February, 2015, 01:23:40 PM
Can I just reiterate for the sake of clarity - I was in no way seriously suggesting that there is any such a thing as a 'true fan', or that I am in any way qualified to judge sometimes appreciation of anything as valid or invalid.

I used the term in order to wind up some clowns who were abusing me on a Facebook group.

Actually i saw that on Facebook and you used that term before any so called abuse

No I didn't. The abuse stated immediately after my first comment.
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: ZenArcade 07 February, 2015, 02:22:54 PM: This has been painful to read; but I do support vociferous protection of the brand and the opprobrium commensurate with such a defence. Any how in the immortal Jack Nicholson line: 'why can't we all just get along'. Z :|

Ps I want Tordel back....oh and Sauchie as well.
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: Jim_Campbell 07 February, 2015, 02:27:50 PM: : Spaceghost 07 February, 2015, 01:56:59 PM
No I didn't. The abuse stated immediately after my first comment.

A REAL cunt would have known that. :-)

Cheers

Jim
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: Hawkmumbler 07 February, 2015, 02:52:32 PM: : Jim_Campbell 07 February, 2015, 02:27:50 PM
: Spaceghost 07 February, 2015, 01:56:59 PM
No I didn't. The abuse stated immediately after my first comment.

A REAL cunt would have known that. :-)

Cheers

Jim
Rhymes with James Blunt and sounds as awful.
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: Spaceghost 07 February, 2015, 03:06:01 PM: Aw, Tordelback. A more appropriate name for you would be Nicest Man on the Internet, but it doesn't roll of the keys so well.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: GordonR 07 February, 2015, 03:42:13 PM: These dress-up-as-a-space-policeman forums sound brilliant. So much fun and camaraderie!
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: Judge Mental 07 February, 2015, 03:43:46 PM: : Jim_Campbell 07 February, 2015, 02:27:50 PM
: Spaceghost 07 February, 2015, 01:56:59 PM
No I didn't. The abuse stated immediately after my first comment.

A REAL cunt would have known that. :-)

Cheers

Jim

Im glad the owners and mods of this forum allow certain people to break the rules as stated
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: Jim_Campbell 07 February, 2015, 03:50:10 PM: : Judge Mental 07 February, 2015, 03:43:46 PM
Im glad the owners and mods of this forum allow certain people to break the rules as stated

What?! Please point me to these rules or fuck off.

Jim
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: A.Cow 07 February, 2015, 04:00:41 PM: : GordonR 07 February, 2015, 03:42:13 PM
These dress-up-as-a-space-policeman forums sound brilliant. So much fun and camaraderie!

That probably explains why my dress-up-as-Morrissey forum failed so badly.

(Mind you, we did get one fella who was even more miserable than the rest, but he'd confused it with a dress-up-as-Grant-Morrison forum.)
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: Zenith 666 07 February, 2015, 04:03:33 PM: Is it not a Dress up as heavily armoured future cop forum.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Judge Mental 07 February, 2015, 04:09:39 PM: : Jim_Campbell 07 February, 2015, 03:50:10 PM
: Judge Mental 07 February, 2015, 03:43:46 PM
Im glad the owners and mods of this forum allow certain people to break the rules as stated

What?! Please point me to these rules or fuck off.

Jim

Actually I keyboard warrior I will deal another way, have a good day
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: IndigoPrime 07 February, 2015, 04:25:01 PM: OK, this stops right now. Any off-topic posts from this point on will be deleted without warning. This thread is designed to help Rebellion protect its IP, not be spat central.
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: ZenArcade 07 February, 2015, 05:08:42 PM: Can't say I disagree alas. Z
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Grugz 07 February, 2015, 05:30:35 PM: and in the mean time I will check out a cow's tea towels and grass him up ;)
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: JOE SOAP 07 February, 2015, 05:43:32 PM: I have a bootleg DREDD sequel if anyone's interested?
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: ZenArcade 07 February, 2015, 05:49:59 PM: Hmmm, can I think about it whilst I dry some crockery with my Mutated Bounty Hunter towel. Z
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: Richmond Clements 07 February, 2015, 05:58:22 PM: I have no idea about the actual game, but that image is very familiar... http://www.appszoom.com/android-game/turret-master-lswyg.html
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: Hawkmumbler 07 February, 2015, 06:21:57 PM: Has anyone seen the new Tarantino movie? The AQA Warriors The Mathnificent Seven?
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: James Stacey 07 February, 2015, 08:15:28 PM: I suspect this isn't licensed. http://www.herohats.co.uk/product/judge-dredd-style-hero-hat/
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: Bat King 07 February, 2015, 10:32:01 PM: : Richmond Clements 07 February, 2015, 05:58:22 PM
I have no idea about the actual game, but that image is very familiar... http://www.appszoom.com/android-game/turret-master-lswyg.html
That is a tracing of Dave Gibbons with minor alterations.
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: CrazyFoxMachine 08 February, 2015, 10:34:16 AM: : James Stacey 07 February, 2015, 08:15:28 PM
I suspect this isn't licensed. http://www.herohats.co.uk/product/judge-dredd-style-hero-hat/

(http://38.media.tumblr.com/f36cbe35de0a5a4fd8686188dad77f91/tumblr_nbd9b5Hkpy1t4akyqo1_500.jpg)

Mimikeke will be as pissed off as Rebellion about this one!
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: TordelBack 08 February, 2015, 10:39:47 AM: : CrazyFoxMachine 08 February, 2015, 10:34:16 AM
Mimikeke will be as pissed off as Rebellion about this one!

Ach her one-off hat is in a different league altogether, hand-crafted Wagner to this churned-out Millar crap.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spikes 08 February, 2015, 01:52:42 PM: : JOE SOAP 07 February, 2015, 05:43:32 PM

I have a bootleg DREDD sequel if anyone's interested?

Depends. Did Adi direct it?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: A.Cow 08 February, 2015, 06:19:46 PM: : Bat King 07 February, 2015, 10:32:01 PM
: Richmond Clements 07 February, 2015, 05:58:22 PM
I have no idea about the actual game, but that image is very familiar... http://www.appszoom.com/android-game/turret-master-lswyg.html
That is a tracing of Dave Gibbons with minor alterations.

Looks to me more like a digital painting of Rogue as seen in the recent video game but posed to match the classic Gibbons Prog 228 cover stance. Signed "MK.06", that particular image is found all over the web; if it's not part of the official promotional art for the game then it's presumably fan art.

Regardless, the game "developer" appears to have dropped out of existence a few months ago. From the look of things they were re-packaging other people's games as their own, so it's no surprise they were nicking images too.
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: Grugz 11 February, 2015, 07:20:21 PM: forgive me for asking but what is the deal if you got ,say a convention sketch or commission where money changed hands? would the artist send tharg,john or carlos a cheque? just wondered how that worked.
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: ZenArcade 11 February, 2015, 07:22:13 PM: It is pertinent to the scale of the revenue loss I presume. Z
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: Jim_Campbell 12 February, 2015, 05:55:17 PM: : Grugz 11 February, 2015, 07:20:21 PM
forgive me for asking but what is the deal if you got ,say a convention sketch or commission where money changed hands? would the artist send tharg,john or carlos a cheque? just wondered how that worked.

Many publishers have traditionally turned a blind eye to convention sketches and private commissions, I believe. I've always thought that pre-printed sketchbooks were sailing a bit close to the wind, TBH, but they seem common enough to suggest that many publishers are OK with that, too.

Cheers

Jim
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: Fungus 12 February, 2015, 06:09:51 PM: Never occurred to me that publishers or trademark holders might look for a cut of personal sketches/commissions, but hm.... it makes sense. If you own a character, then fair's fair. And you say "many publishers", I'd be curious who does demand a cut, if it ever happens.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jim_Campbell 12 February, 2015, 06:14:31 PM: : Fungus 12 February, 2015, 06:09:51 PM
And you say "many publishers", I'd be curious who does demand a cut, if it ever happens.

I've never heard of it, but I can't claim to have universal knowledge of every publisher's official (or unofficial) policy on this, hence the hedge.

Cheers

Jim
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: Colin YNWA 12 February, 2015, 07:38:37 PM: Surely it would be incredibly hard to police and not close to being worth upsetting 'talent' as I belive artist are called these days...

... as ever I know nowt and am spouting right out me hat.
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: hippynumber1 12 February, 2015, 08:19:31 PM: I seem to remember a big hoo-har of some sort when an artist challenged a seller at a con over fine art prints of a character that he owned the rights to. The seller didn't have permission to sell and the artist wasn't getting a cut. That said, I too could be spouting right out of my hat and misremembering (I'm sure somebody here will know the exact details and what happened) but I don't think it ended well... Many apologies to all if I've got that all mixed up with something else and I will happily retract if it's completely wrong...
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: Hawkmumbler 12 February, 2015, 08:40:44 PM: I suspwct it's also down to them being available to a specific audience for an incredible small time frame. Also the publicity that could be generated from them.
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: Steve Green 12 February, 2015, 08:51:11 PM: : hippynumber1 12 February, 2015, 08:19:31 PM
I seem to remember a big hoo-har of some sort when an artist challenged a seller at a con over fine art prints of a character that he owned the rights to. The seller didn't have permission to sell and the artist wasn't getting a cut. That said, I too could be spouting right out of my hat and misremembering (I'm sure somebody here will know the exact details and what happened) but I don't think it ended well... Many apologies to all if I've got that all mixed up with something else and I will happily retract if it's completely wrong...

Not at a con but the only thing I can remember was someone copying Brian Bolland.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2010/05/20/brian-bolland-takes-on-erro-and-wins/ (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2010/05/20/brian-bolland-takes-on-erro-and-wins/)
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: Woolly 12 February, 2015, 08:56:02 PM: Only speculating here, but I think as long as the artwork is an original, commisioned piece* then thats cool.
However if it gets published, or printed for multiple sales, then it's an infringement of copyright.

I think.

*By this, I mean that the payee has asked for a specific character/sketch.
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: Mister Pops 12 February, 2015, 08:59:28 PM: I suppose you could defend con sketches under the umbrella of fair use. I believe there is a caveat that allows use of IPs if it won't have any negative effects on the copyright holder's potential market. Nobody's going to stop buying their favourite comic because they got a sketch of Dredd from some bloke that's not Carlos.
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: Richmond Clements 12 February, 2015, 09:06:10 PM: It's also worth noting that in The Good Old Days sketches were mostly free. It was when people started to sell them on ebay, after getting them for nothing, that most artists started charging.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Bat King 12 February, 2015, 11:08:24 PM: I am guessing that so long as the Artist doesn't do anything that goes against the Publisher's marketing a blind eye is turned. More of a blind eye if the Artist has worked on the comic in question.

Ask me more at Lawgiver ;)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Grugz 13 February, 2015, 03:16:30 PM: : Fungus 12 February, 2015, 06:09:51 PM
Never occurred to me that publishers or trademark holders might look for a cut of personal sketches/commissions, but hm.... it makes sense.

I suffer from chronic insomnia,i lie awake all night more than I sleep and things pop in there ;)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: JamesC 13 February, 2015, 03:36:35 PM: At conventions artists should be free to draw what they like and if people put stuff on ebay, so be it. Artists can always insist on putting a personal message on the work (I think some do this anyway) which effects its resale value.
At one of the early Free Comic Book Days, Steve Yeowell came to a free event at the library which occupies the building I work in. He was doing sketches for free and was slightly taken aback by a child who asked for a drawing of Edward Scissorhands. He explained that he'd never drawn the character before but the kid insisted that he try. As far as the child was concerned, he wanted a picture of Edward Scissorhands and here was a guy who could draw well. Steve ended up drawing a bloody good portrait of the character, mainly from memory but with a few pointers on general look/costume from the child. It was a great thing to see and would have been totally spoiled if the artist had to arrange permission from the licence holders of Edward Scissorhands in advance!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spikes 13 February, 2015, 08:58:37 PM: : King Pops 12 February, 2015, 08:59:28 PM
I suppose you could defend con sketches under the umbrella of fair use. I believe there is a caveat that allows use of IPs if it won't have any negative effects on the copyright holder's potential market.

Rebellion seems happy to allow it, and are happy to use images of commissions as part of a wider publicity for the prog.

I seem to recall one of the big two over in the states, after they'd had a falling out with an artist I cant recall the name of, then went on to punish him further, by not allowing him to produce any commission work featuring characters they owned.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: TordelBack 14 February, 2015, 08:19:35 AM: : Richmond Clements 12 February, 2015, 09:06:10 PM
It's also worth noting that in The Good Old Days sketches were mostly free. It was when people started to sell them on ebay, after getting them for nothing, that most artists started charging.

This. Also, given the marginal recompense artists get for giving us the defining element of the comics medium, making a few quid from one-offs while generating free advertising and PR for their clients seems only fair.
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: ZenArcade 14 February, 2015, 08:58:28 AM: Only seems fair. Z
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: rogue69 23 February, 2015, 10:40:56 PM: Someone is trying sell a set of tarot cards using Judge Dredd images

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Judge-Dredd-Tarot-Sticker-Set/111604186705?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140328180637%26meid%3Db3a3c501d2454bb991266d85cf3dd21c%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D111604191249[/size][/size]
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: Hawkmumbler 23 February, 2015, 10:47:07 PM: Those are pretty hilarious. :lol:
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: TordelBack 23 February, 2015, 10:58:28 PM: "No no, it's a popular misconception that the Satanus card means you're necessarily going to be eaten by a black tyrannosaur. It can often just indicate a phase in your life when it's the important to carry a boot-knife at all times".
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: JayzusB.Christ 26 February, 2015, 07:14:43 AM: Empress Hershey's* got very nice eyes though.

*Or possibly Dekker
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: ZenArcade 27 February, 2015, 07:44:43 PM: If he gets off they'd better be careful of how to discharge the case. Z
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: Dark Jimbo 27 February, 2015, 07:47:40 PM: Those are a rare sort of genius - Fink as The Hermit and James Grubb as The Hanged Man! :lol:
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: ZenArcade 27 February, 2015, 07:54:24 PM: We could have the Ulysses Suite. Z
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: MrLongTheArtist 02 March, 2015, 04:00:34 PM: I'd be impressed by those Tarrot cards if the person selling them had done the artwork themselves, but a lot of it I've stumbled across on Google Images, Deviant Art and so on. So it's clearly not their artwork on the front of those cards.

I created a set of 12 ACEO cards around a popular TV series a while back, but I sold the original cards and not copies. To my mind selling an original is one thing but selling multiple copies equals a product and a product should pay royalties etc.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jim_Campbell 19 March, 2015, 05:08:47 PM: Dredd 'inspired' t-shirt. No indication that it's officially licensed:

https://www.teepublic.com/t-shirt/161411-i-like-kicking-evil-butts-and-i-cannot-lie?aff_store_referral_id=258

Cheers

Jim
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: rogue69 24 March, 2015, 09:59:27 PM: how about a pillow case or a throw for your bedroom or some cheap looking t-shirts

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=2bhip&_armrs=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1311.R1.TR6.TRC1.A0.H1.X2000.TRS0&_nkw=2000ad&ghostText=&_sacat=0
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: Spikes 30 March, 2015, 04:46:09 PM: I dont know if these have been featured before (It's hard to keep up, once the thread page count grows...), but someone was hawking these about ($220 and they kindly offered the e-mail, so you could grab one) over on the Judge Dredd facebook page..

(http://i.imgur.com/4oAIu6J.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/aPfYtB3.jpg)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: gronk guy 30 March, 2015, 04:55:32 PM: : rogue69 24 March, 2015, 09:59:27 PM
how about a pillow case or a throw for your bedroom or some cheap looking t-shirts

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=2bhip&_armrs=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1311.R1.TR6.TRC1.A0.H1.X2000.TRS0&_nkw=2000ad&ghostText=&_sacat=0

These are licensed by Trevco.
http://www.trevcoinc.com/comic-t-shirts/judge-dredd-t-shirts.html (http://www.trevcoinc.com/comic-t-shirts/judge-dredd-t-shirts.html)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jim_Campbell 30 March, 2015, 05:51:21 PM: : Spikes 30 March, 2015, 04:46:09 PM
but someone was hawking these about ($220 and they kindly offered the e-mail, so you could grab one) over on the Judge Dredd facebook page..

Link to offending FB post here. (https://www.facebook.com/groups/judgedreddfangroup/)

Process posts about having it made, including a statement of intention to sell here (http://www.therpf.com/f71/dredd-3d-1-3-figure-work-progress-218583/).

Cheers

Jim
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: TordelBack 30 March, 2015, 11:41:50 PM: For 1:3 scale, and that price, it's not exactly great.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: strangelysaucy 31 March, 2015, 09:18:30 AM: actually it's worse -

"special offer is only on until the end of February discount cost is $220 plus $60 shipping from Thailand the regular price will be $290 plus shipping."

:lol:
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: judgerussell 09 April, 2015, 01:33:11 PM: A seller on eBay is selling a lot of 2000AD posters and mugs.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/emzy_media_2015/m.html?item=251911594707&hash=item3aa719e2d3&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

Send Mek-Quake after them!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Dash Decent 26 April, 2015, 04:28:17 AM: This seller has stacks of iron-on patches: Click (http://www.ebay.com.au/usr/destinyone)

There's the Helm biochip, SD badge, 2000AD logo, various Dredd patches (including the Stallone movie version).

This seller has a Souther "upward arrow" patch: Click (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PARCHE-ROGUE-TROOPER-G-I-SOUTH-ERS-PATCH-/251832701312?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_186&hash=item3aa2661180)

Are these legitimate? They look pretty good.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Dandontdare 07 May, 2015, 11:28:17 AM: Anyone fancy a Dredd helmet stained glass lamp (http://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/judge-dredd-stained-glass-lamp)?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Grugz 08 May, 2015, 05:36:10 PM: theres some good stuff on there!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: glassstanley 26 May, 2015, 02:29:52 PM: Not sure is this counts, but the latest issue of Viz is running a Big Dave strip. About a big thug called Dave.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: johnnystress 31 May, 2015, 06:13:52 PM: Just came across this blast from the past. Captain Crisp was a short lived character and crisp brand here in Ireland. Notable for being a complete Dredd rip off.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: JOE SOAP 31 May, 2015, 07:19:00 PM: : johnnystress 31 May, 2015, 06:13:52 PM
Just came across this blast from the past. Captain Crisp was a short lived character and crisp brand here in Ireland. Notable for being a complete Dredd rip off.

(http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=300441&stc=1&d=1395934317)

(http://old.brokenfrontier.com/userfiles/images/lowdown/2011/8_aug/IPCJudgeDredd_0811.jpg)

Does this make Sam Spudz a Sam Slade rip-off...

(https://wheresgrandad.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/sam-spudz.jpg)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: judda fett 31 May, 2015, 08:45:43 PM: That Captain Crisps badge is ace!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: A.Cow 01 June, 2015, 11:52:09 PM: : JOE SOAP 31 May, 2015, 07:19:00 PM
Does this make Sam Spudz a Sam Slade rip-off...

Um ... I'm guessing you've never heard of Sam Spade (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Spade), private detective, played by Humphrey Bogart in The Maltese Falcon (1941)?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: JOE SOAP 02 June, 2015, 12:18:49 AM: : A.Cow 01 June, 2015, 11:52:09 PM
: JOE SOAP 31 May, 2015, 07:19:00 PM
Does this make Sam Spudz a Sam Slade rip-off...

Um ... I'm guessing you've never heard of Sam Spade (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Spade), private detective, played by Humphrey Bogart in The Maltese Falcon (1941)?

Last I heard of him he was working the same beat as Philip Marlowe. Neither of them were involved in spuds or robots. Sam Spudz, however...
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: ThryllSeekyr 02 June, 2015, 07:19:53 AM: I recently purchased sown on patches of the 2000AD logo and Slaine logo....

Showed them off and talked about them here (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,39227.15.html)

I think their awesome and frankly do not care if they are some sort of infringement to here.

Maybe Rebellion should consider making they turn out to be popular.

BTW I have since found my Slaine beanie nearly a fortnight ago and have since lost/had it misplaced or stolen since the last Monday.

I happened right after I got back shopping and had took the thing off the moment I got inside the house. I must have put it down somewhere in the narrow living space between the back door and the way to my room. Yeah, they're are not many places I would have missed the thing and could for the life of me even find the thing when I proceeded to search back and fourth between the entrance and my room. How bloody frustrated I got and still am that it could be found.
I find it underneath anything or under one of couch cushions like I did last time I found it. I will know that some body is messing me around.

Our garage, which currently holds a lot of junk or stuff that couldn't be thrown out is kind of dark and a excellent place to hide if you have access to our house. The door is also permanently left open because my imbecilic father has fixed it that way.

He also refuses to build a proper fence around our house. This attracts theft.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Jim_Campbell 02 June, 2015, 07:32:47 AM: Forgive me for being a bit of a killjoy, but I thought the point of this thread was to provide an easy point of reference for The Powers That Be to notified of iffy eBay DVDs full of back issues or unlicensed t-shirts, prints and the like…?

If we're just going to clog it up with 'this thing from 2000AD sort of resembles this thing that isn't from 2000AD' that might be better off in the 'Swipe File' thread, then it's going to rather defeat its own purpose, isn't it?

Cheers

Jim
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: johnnystress 02 June, 2015, 09:41:27 AM: : Jim_Campbell 02 June, 2015, 07:32:47 AM
Forgive me for being a bit of a killjoy

No
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Fungus 02 June, 2015, 09:42:53 AM: : ThryllSeekyr 02 June, 2015, 07:19:53 AM
The door is also permanently left open because my imbecilic father has fixed it that way.
He also refuses to build a proper fence around our house. This attracts theft.

Public announcements help too.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: JudgeOiNK! 06 June, 2015, 01:26:11 PM: Apologies if this person has been mentioned before but I see he's selling digital scans of every issue of 2000AD. He puts up to 150 issues (including annuals and specials) on to each CD for a tenner. He's also advertising as including right up to the latest issue. There can be no doubt he's making money off illegal scans. I've reported him to eBay a while back but he's just resisted yet again:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000AD-DIGITAL-COMIC-COLLECTION-COMPLETE-/171816425635?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item28010e98a3
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Spikes 06 June, 2015, 01:59:43 PM: I've reported a few of these sellers before - when I've happened to come across them, and unfortunately nowt seems to come of it.
Least, I don't think anything has.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Third Estate Ned 02 August, 2015, 11:37:30 AM: I was looking for Italian language Dredd collections, specifically this Judge Dredd: Crimine Futuro (http://http://www.ebay.it/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-CRIMINE-FUTURO-/251388598582/) collection when I stumbled across it on a page of absolutely free-to-download PDF/CBR files of Trifecta, America, Predator v JD v Aliens, Megazine, IDW editions, etc.

Don't think I should post the link on here in case it gets used, so should I PM it Molch-R?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: TordelBack 02 August, 2015, 02:48:46 PM: Absolutely. Although pretty much all of the outpourings of Tharg's organ are available on teh torrentz all the time, there's no reason not to smite the unworthy when you encounter them.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Third Estate Ned 03 August, 2015, 08:44:08 PM: Shopped 'em!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: hippynumber1 28 August, 2015, 05:26:57 PM: Please tell me this is licensed

http://www.teefury.com/shop/dredd

I love it and need it but can't buy it if it's not legit...
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: James Stacey 04 September, 2015, 03:15:53 PM: : hippynumber1 28 August, 2015, 05:26:57 PM
Please tell me this is licensed

http://www.teefury.com/shop/dredd

I love it and need it but can't buy it if it's not legit...
I don't think anything on teefury is licensed.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: hippynumber1 05 September, 2015, 02:50:36 PM: : James Stacey 04 September, 2015, 03:15:53 PM
: hippynumber1 28 August, 2015, 05:26:57 PM
Please tell me this is licensed

http://www.teefury.com/shop/dredd

I love it and need it but can't buy it if it's not legit...
I don't think anything on teefury is licensed.

This makes me sad... I'd never heard of them until a couple of months ago but I didn't think they would be...
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: hippynumber1 30 October, 2015, 04:52:14 PM: Errrrrrrmmmm... Mega-City 1 Book of Law?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00TQQ67RE?keywords=dredd&qid=1446223775&ref_=sr_1_9&sr=8-9#productDetails
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: COMMANDO FORCES 30 October, 2015, 05:14:03 PM: That one has been out for years!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: rogue69 01 February, 2016, 12:02:32 AM: Cheap iron on transfer of rogue trooper

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000AD-Rogue-Trooper-Iron-On-Heat-T-Shirt-Transfer-A5-/262245860014?hash=item3d0f1242ae:g:muUAAOSwl9BWNTuR
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: judgerussell 08 February, 2016, 07:09:01 PM: More unlicensed Dredd mugs.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Judge-Dredd-Photograph-On-A-Coffee-Cup-Mug-X123-/231839938516?hash=item35fabcb7d4:g:Hp0AAOSwWTRWuN38
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Dash Decent 09 February, 2016, 11:58:29 AM: This should be merchandise! (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?topic=43035.msg906636#msg906636)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Theblazeuk 17 February, 2016, 12:25:52 PM: http://bullshireshop.co.uk/product/dredbull-key-ring-thing/

Does that count?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: IAMTHESYSTEM 07 April, 2016, 10:33:01 PM: Found this on some obscure website. Judge Anderson is a New Epoch Cop rather than a Judge. Does Rebellion know? £89- for fan-atics only!

http://www.kghobby.com/vts-toys-vm-013-new-epoch-cop-1-6th-scale-action-figure/
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: COMMANDO FORCES 07 April, 2016, 10:40:26 PM: That's disgraceful!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Hawkmumbler 08 April, 2016, 11:59:20 AM: : COMMANDO FORCES 07 April, 2016, 10:40:26 PM
That's disgraceful!
You bought one, didn't you?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: rogue69 17 April, 2016, 01:19:31 PM: this guy doesn't give up he has been reported several times for using other people's images& is still making these Rogue Trooper transfer prints

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000AD-Rogue-Trooper-Iron-On-TShirt-Transfer-Prints-A5-/141960807256?hash=item210d860358:g:0Q8AAOSw-RRXCCCl
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Colin YNWA 17 April, 2016, 07:32:19 PM: That's PJ's isn't it. Wonder if he still haunts these parts and has thought of contacting this chap?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Hawkmumbler 17 April, 2016, 08:12:53 PM: Positive thats the work of Mr. Holden, hope he or one of the other Rebellion crew can nip this in the bud.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Bolt-01 18 April, 2016, 03:00:11 PM: It is indeed the work of PJ Holden AND with Steve Denton on colours. I was given that image by PJ himself for use on Zarjaz. It was also one of the images that a former Command module droid allowed SFX magazine to use for promo so it proudly sits on my fridge.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: rogue69 26 April, 2016, 11:37:41 PM: I don't know what is worse the fact they have made this without permission or the fact they call Dredd a Marvel charector

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dredd-Car-Window-Sticker-I-Am-The-Law-Judge-Dredd-Sign-Marvel-Comic-/252336999095?hash=item3ac0750ab7:g:fKoAAOxyni9TGEzI
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Professor Bear 05 May, 2016, 10:41:58 PM: I think this might be a bit of a stretch, but Rich Johnson over at Bleeding Cool reckons that Valiant's new War Mother comic published under the "4001ad" banner seems a bit similar to Rogue Trooper just because it features a mohawked warrior with a sentient assault rifle wandering a post-apocalyptic Earth which is owned by a corporation in orbit (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/05/05/4001ads-war-mother-from-valiant-reminds-me-of-2000ads-rogue-trooper/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter).
Like I say, it's a bit of a stretch: Rogue Trooper is a man, and blue. And 2000ad doesn't start with a 4 and end with a 1.
(http://cdn.bleedingcool.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/rhnbmvv4jez0vihb5vaf-600x923.png)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Woolly 06 May, 2016, 08:54:04 AM: : Professor Bear 05 May, 2016, 10:41:58 PM
I think this might be a bit of a stretch, but Rich Johnson over at Bleeding Cool reckons that Valiant's new War Mother comic published under the "4001ad" banner seems a bit similar to Rogue Trooper just because it features a mohawked warrior with a sentient assault rifle wandering a post-apocalyptic Earth which is owned by a corporation in orbit (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/05/05/4001ads-war-mother-from-valiant-reminds-me-of-2000ads-rogue-trooper/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter).
Like I say, it's a bit of a stretch: Rogue Trooper is a man, and blue. And 2000ad doesn't start with a 4 and end with a 1.
(http://cdn.bleedingcool.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/rhnbmvv4jez0vihb5vaf-600x923.png)

Logged in to make this very point. And from a company called 'Valiant' too!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Darren Stephens 07 May, 2016, 08:00:18 PM: I saw this too. Cheeky feckers! ::)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Professor Bear 07 May, 2016, 08:30:19 PM: Hey, Rebellion aren't doing anything with that old character anyway.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Lobo Baggins 08 May, 2016, 12:20:51 PM: : Professor Bear 05 May, 2016, 10:41:58 PM
(http://cdn.bleedingcool.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/rhnbmvv4jez0vihb5vaf-600x923.png)

Funny enough, I was just on my way to the Swipe Files thread...

(http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/Lobo_Baggins/Venus_zpsxpqvyadz.jpg) (http://s123.photobucket.com/user/Lobo_Baggins/media/Venus_zpsxpqvyadz.jpg.html)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Big_Dave 08 May, 2016, 02:14:45 PM: (http://i.imgur.com/kYUp56M.png?1) (http://i.imgur.com/N2dCzar.png?2)

In the 41st century, The Grove is a walled city on what used to be the border between Colombia and Brazil.

Built on the remnants of a biomaterials facility, it has thrived by adhering to a strict code of isolation. Able to grow technology as well as food, its residents must harvest raw materials from the surrounding wasteland and the remnants of what was.

This task is designated to one and one alone: War Mother. When city-sized sectors are jettisoned to Earth from the orbiting space station of New Japan, War Mother is called upon to sack the debris for anything of value to her tribe.

What she finds in the crashed cities will reveal a secret about Earth’s true order that will bring War Mother into conflict with her community, her code, and her calling … and bring destruction down upon one of humanity’s last surviving outposts of order.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Professor Bear 08 May, 2016, 02:31:24 PM: "Biomaterials factory"?

Sooo... the main character might be genetically engineered, too?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: A.Cow 08 May, 2016, 03:32:55 PM: Unfortunately, even if you discount Max Max, semi-bald futuristic warrior women are ten-a-penny round these parts ...

(http://i.imgur.com/N2dCzar.png?2) (http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/galleries/2015/Review_AurraSingUnleashed/Review_AurraSingUnleashed_stillA.jpg)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Professor Bear 08 May, 2016, 04:24:17 PM: Semi-bald genetically engineered female warriors with talking guns on post-apocalyptic Earth under a comics banner with "thousand A.D." in the make-up not so much.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Tjm86 31 May, 2016, 02:13:05 PM: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000AD-1977-1989-650-Issues-on-DVD-/252404892269?hash=item3ac481026d:g:p08AAOSwAvJXAOCc (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000AD-1977-1989-650-Issues-on-DVD-/252404892269?hash=item3ac481026d:g:p08AAOSwAvJXAOCc)

I love the disclaimer on this. All in the public domain? Ho boy!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: CrazyFoxMachine 31 May, 2016, 09:57:34 PM: FFS that arse has tried that before, hasn't he?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Tjm86 04 June, 2016, 10:40:54 AM: And another one?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-AD-DIGITAL-COMIC-COLLECTION-1977-to-2015-plus-all-annuals-/272259773042?hash=item3f63f27272:g:l8IAAOSwyjBW3x7z (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-AD-DIGITAL-COMIC-COLLECTION-1977-to-2015-plus-all-annuals-/272259773042?hash=item3f63f27272:g:l8IAAOSwyjBW3x7z)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: BPP 07 July, 2016, 02:59:37 PM: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000AD-T-Shirt-Dredd-Helmet-Quote-SDCC-2016-PRESELL-/222177437648?hash=item33bacea7d0:g:pIQAAOSwwo1Xe8Yd (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000AD-T-Shirt-Dredd-Helmet-Quote-SDCC-2016-PRESELL-/222177437648?hash=item33bacea7d0:g:pIQAAOSwwo1Xe8Yd)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Molch-R 08 July, 2016, 03:08:51 PM: : BPP 07 July, 2016, 02:59:37 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000AD-T-Shirt-Dredd-Helmet-Quote-SDCC-2016-PRESELL-/222177437648?hash=item33bacea7d0:g:pIQAAOSwwo1Xe8Yd (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000AD-T-Shirt-Dredd-Helmet-Quote-SDCC-2016-PRESELL-/222177437648?hash=item33bacea7d0:g:pIQAAOSwwo1Xe8Yd)

That's someone offering one of the Titan SDCC exclusives in advance: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/07/07/titan-launches-exclusive-doctor-who-comic-the-long-con-for-sdcc-and-other-exclusives/
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Colin YNWA 08 July, 2016, 06:26:34 PM: Have to say I love that Umpty t-shirt.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Nic_Freeman 14 July, 2016, 11:35:07 AM: I'm pretty sure this isn't a licensed product, which is a shame, because I'd love one of these:

http://www.mysoti.com/designer/slightlywrong/product/1782076/slightlywrong--tshirt--JUDGE-DREAD
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Hawkmumbler 14 July, 2016, 01:14:16 PM: : Nic_Freeman 14 July, 2016, 11:35:07 AM
I'm pretty sure this isn't a licensed product, which is a shame, because I'd love one of these:

http://www.mysoti.com/designer/slightlywrong/product/1782076/slightlywrong--tshirt--JUDGE-DREAD
Yet another "Judge Dread" t-shirt, as if Rebellion wouldn't notice.

Aren't any bootleggers remotely original?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: James Stacey 14 July, 2016, 01:48:28 PM: : Hawkmumbler 14 July, 2016, 01:14:16 PM
: Nic_Freeman 14 July, 2016, 11:35:07 AM
I'm pretty sure this isn't a licensed product, which is a shame, because I'd love one of these:

http://www.mysoti.com/designer/slightlywrong/product/1782076/slightlywrong--tshirt--JUDGE-DREAD
Yet another "Judge Dread" t-shirt, as if Rebellion wouldn't notice.

Aren't any bootleggers remotely original?
I think thats part of the joke of the tshirt
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: A.Cow 14 July, 2016, 10:52:58 PM: : Hawkmumbler 14 July, 2016, 01:14:16 PM
Yet another "Judge Dread" t-shirt, as if Rebellion wouldn't notice.
Aren't any bootleggers remotely original?

As Mr Stacey points out, the gimmick of this particular company is that they do stuff deliberately wrong, in a way that is guaranteed to wind up fanboys. For example, a picture of the USS Enterprise with "Star Wars" underneath.

Given that Rebellion are now taking advantage of (recently-introduced) parody exemption legislation to publish trademark-trampling Cursed Earth Uncensored, I would imagine these particular T-shirts are nudging into a grey area.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: shaolin_monkey 27 July, 2016, 10:22:35 AM: Is this legit? Popped up on FB:

https://viralstyle.com/tee-hee/judge-dredd
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: James Dilworth 29 July, 2016, 04:56:12 PM: : shaolin_monkey 27 July, 2016, 10:22:35 AM
Is this legit? Popped up on FB:

https://viralstyle.com/tee-hee/judge-dredd

Zach Howard is understandably annoyed.

http://spacefriend-krunk.deviantart.com/

Maybe one for the lawyers?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Albion 03 August, 2016, 11:27:41 AM: Not sure if this has been posted before but surely not official?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Judge-Helmet-Halloween-Cosplay-Costume/dp/B01I4VP2OU/ref=sr_1_126?s=kids&ie=UTF8&qid=1470086424&sr=1-126
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: M.I.K. 04 August, 2016, 02:28:23 AM: : A.Cow 14 July, 2016, 10:52:58 PM
Given that Rebellion are now taking advantage of (recently-introduced) parody exemption legislation to publish trademark-trampling Cursed Earth Uncensored, I would imagine these particular T-shirts are nudging into a grey area.

Not using that artwork they're not.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: A.Cow 04 August, 2016, 04:43:39 AM: : M.I.K. 04 August, 2016, 02:28:23 AM
: A.Cow 14 July, 2016, 10:52:58 PM
Given that Rebellion are now taking advantage of (recently-introduced) parody exemption legislation to publish trademark-trampling Cursed Earth Uncensored, I would imagine these particular T-shirts are nudging into a grey area.
Not using that artwork they're not.

Fair point.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: JayzusB.Christ 07 August, 2016, 11:54:34 AM: : James Stacey 14 July, 2016, 01:48:28 PM
: Hawkmumbler 14 July, 2016, 01:14:16 PM
: Nic_Freeman 14 July, 2016, 11:35:07 AM
I'm pretty sure this isn't a licensed product, which is a shame, because I'd love one of these:

http://www.mysoti.com/designer/slightlywrong/product/1782076/slightlywrong--tshirt--JUDGE-DREAD
Yet another "Judge Dread" t-shirt, as if Rebellion wouldn't notice.

Aren't any bootleggers remotely original?
I think thats part of the joke of the tshirt

I must admit I visited their website and found myself laughing out loud at the wrong quotes.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: matty_ae 29 August, 2016, 10:14:48 PM: https://m.vk.com/thrill_power

This VK group, I think it's a Russian version of Facebook have over 1000 progs up to the latest issue shared on their group.

If the link doesn't work search VK thrill_power

They are ruthless in posting all the recent trades etc.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Dr Feeley Good 07 September, 2016, 02:52:38 PM: Just a quick question,do the latest 2000ad t-shirts have 2000ad labels in them ? I have bought two recently,the Judge Death Lives one and the blue Torquemada one,they both seem really good quality but only have gildan labels in,the make of the shirt !
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: matty_ae 16 September, 2016, 04:40:41 PM: This art looks familiar
http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=1321626&GSub=175479
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: A.Cow 18 September, 2016, 02:18:38 AM: : matty_ae 16 September, 2016, 04:40:41 PM
This art looks familiar
http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=1321626&GSub=175479

Did a bit of searching for this guy -- he seems to have built a career on presenting other artists' work as his own for (at least) the last 7 or 8 years.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: flip-r mk2 23 September, 2016, 12:51:28 AM: This rip-off of an official t shirt popped up in my FB feed :((http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt99/flipray09/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_20160923-003803_zpsifoy1uwj.png) (http://s601.photobucket.com/user/flipray09/media/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_20160923-003803_zpsifoy1uwj.png.html)

filippo
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: rogue69 02 January, 2017, 10:19:14 PM: some one is using the Glenn Fabry IDW rogue trooper covers to make posters

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rogue-Trooper-2000AD-Poster-All-Sizes-Retro-Classic-491615-/331833665168?var=&hash=item4d42d3e690:m:mlsTxebTjhlgNoydGk7ROFQ
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: rogue69 08 January, 2017, 12:43:07 AM: some Nemesis ABC warriors t-shirts ripoffs

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOP-QUALITY-2000AD-T-SHIRTS-4-STYLES-ACE-GARP-BLITZSPEAR-TERMITE-ABC-WRS-S-XXL-/200902056898?var=&hash=item2ec6b21bc2:m:mJkKHMaohykUuwZSqWSwbTA
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Colin YNWA 08 January, 2017, 02:44:54 PM: : rogue69 08 January, 2017, 12:43:07 AM
some Nemesis ABC warriors t-shirts ripoffs

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOP-QUALITY-2000AD-T-SHIRTS-4-STYLES-ACE-GARP-BLITZSPEAR-TERMITE-ABC-WRS-S-XXL-/200902056898?var=&hash=item2ec6b21bc2:m:mJkKHMaohykUuwZSqWSwbTA

As if knickin' from Tharg wasn't bad enough - comics sans on that ACE Trucking logo - hang um high I say!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Steve Green 08 January, 2017, 03:10:14 PM: I think that's Michael Carroll's Blitzpear isn't it?

Ah, no it's a rip of an image from a stock model site.

http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-model-nemesis-warlock-blitzspear/547370 (http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-model-nemesis-warlock-blitzspear/547370)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: rogue69 18 February, 2017, 11:08:55 PM: cheep looking 2000AD fridge magnets

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000AD-RO-JAWS-ABC-WARRIORS-CHARACTER-FRIDGE-MAGNET-comic-judge-dredd-mag-/201794567201?hash=item2efbe4bc21:g:uPAAAOSwnHZYiQrW
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Zarjazzer 24 June, 2017, 02:13:59 PM: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0629315/

So called "Law and Order" trying it on I see. Cube time for those tee-vee producers. :P
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Goosegash 06 October, 2017, 05:47:58 PM: Haha, just saw this Jim Sterling video and had to mention it.

I present to you: JYDGE! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsz-6s6bfZs)

The game doesn't look that bad to be fair, it's just the fact they thought no-one would notice the concept was a blatant rip-off, just because they've replaced all the vowels with Y!

Whyt y bynch yf twyts.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: The Monarch 06 October, 2017, 06:14:00 PM: its hotline miami with a vaguely dreddy skin on it :lol:
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: The Adventurer 06 October, 2017, 11:07:34 PM: : Goosegash 06 October, 2017, 05:47:58 PM
Haha, just saw this Jim Sterling video and had to mention it.

I present to you: JYDGE! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsz-6s6bfZs)

The game doesn't look that bad to be fair, it's just the fact they thought no-one would notice the concept was a blatant rip-off, just because they've replaced all the vowels with Y!

Whyt y bynch yf twyts.

Awe, you beat me too it. Someone is filing serial numbers off like there's no tomorrow!
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: rogue69 14 December, 2017, 05:33:34 PM: An E liquid company called Zap! juice are using the Nort emblem as their logo
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Dominic O'Rourke 14 January, 2018, 12:21:13 PM: : The Adventurer 06 October, 2017, 11:07:34 PM
: Goosegash 06 October, 2017, 05:47:58 PM
Haha, just saw this Jim Sterling video and had to mention it.

I present to you: JYDGE! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsz-6s6bfZs)

The game doesn't look that bad to be fair, it's just the fact they thought no-one would notice the concept was a blatant rip-off, just because they've replaced all the vowels with Y!

Whyt y bynch yf twyts.

Awe, you beat me too it. Someone is filing serial numbers off like there's no tomorrow!

It’s also being promoted as app of the day on the iOS App Store.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: dweezil2 18 January, 2018, 02:58:00 PM: Is this misappropriating Nick Percival's art or am I mistaken?

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F273009616485
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Steve Green 18 January, 2018, 03:07:44 PM: It's not Nick's.

https://www.deviantart.com/art/Judge-Dredd-Vs-Judge-Death-633388487 (https://www.deviantart.com/art/Judge-Dredd-Vs-Judge-Death-633388487)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: BPP 26 March, 2018, 09:34:01 PM: Teeteeful.com are selling a judge dredd ‘justice’ tshirt via instagram - not on their website - an Instagram sales page that’s open until Wednesday.

I’ve a screen grab if a droid wants it.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: rogue69 30 August, 2018, 11:24:57 PM: fairyjamfactory.com & tshirtman on eBay among their of tshirts are selling Roy of the Rovers, Judge Dredd & hookjaw t shirts
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Frank 04 September, 2018, 06:59:12 PM: ... gay-themed series like Peter Milligan’s “Enigma” and my own “Sebastian 0” – which actually grew out of a pitch for a revamp of IPC’s “Janus Stark” character – were commissioned by Art for publication at Touchmark, not by Karen Berger. When Touchmark experienced a failure to launch, Art was re-hired by DC and brought his portfolio of projects to Vertigo

Grant Morrison (http://www.comicsbeat.com/the-strange-case-of-grant-morrison-and-alan-moore-as-told-by-grant-morrison/)

Not actually copyright infringement, but we don't have a Mildly Interesting Things I Mention In Passing thread
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Dash Decent 05 September, 2018, 12:46:04 PM: Pixel art mugs & canvases -

Dredd (https://dinosaur-pie.co.uk/products/jdrdd)

Alpha (https://dinosaur-pie.co.uk/products/jasd)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: rogue69 11 October, 2018, 12:35:02 AM: Judge Dredd vinyl car stickers

https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/Vision-On-Vinyl/2000-AD/_i.html?_storecat=17113335017
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Dark Jimbo 24 January, 2019, 11:21:15 AM: Hmm...

https://heathenwaxworks.bigcartel.com/product/deadhead?fbclid=IwAR3-xMcKTBVTd66sumsGcEvnAvpXIdmptfTmbe0YFnSGKsPKRhO9CasmEho
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: The Amstor Computer 26 June, 2019, 03:08:41 PM: I know these kind of sellers/listings are dime-a-dozen, but while searching for something today I spotted one with a huge chunk of old IPC/DC Thomson/DDC/DC/etc. material on DVDs, so:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/daywarm000/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: rogue69 03 July, 2019, 12:27:32 AM: these guys are making keyrings out of images from old 2000ad's
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-AD-Prog-Covers-keyring-Judge-Dredd-2000AD-choose-any-Progs/271859942273?hash=item3f4c1d8381:g:LEQAAOSwvx1bt76d
: Re: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: glassstanley 01 August, 2019, 02:22:26 PM: Here’s someone selling their own Dredd stories:

Judge Dredd https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1983045705/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_LCUqDb00FGFQP
: Re: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Hawkmumbler 01 August, 2019, 02:25:10 PM: : glassstanley 01 August, 2019, 02:22:26 PM
Here’s someone selling their own Dredd stories:

Judge Dredd https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1983045705/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_LCUqDb00FGFQP

Ah that tat.

:lol: :lol:
: Re: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: MacabreMagpie 01 August, 2019, 02:26:01 PM: : glassstanley 01 August, 2019, 02:22:26 PM
Here’s someone selling their own Dredd stories:

Judge Dredd https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1983045705/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_LCUqDb00FGFQP

That actually looks like he's just put the script from the 2012 movie into a book o.O
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: MacabreMagpie 24 August, 2019, 10:00:02 AM: Shirt with Greg Staples 'Mars Attacks Judge Dredd' image on it.

https://floytee.com/889/Mar_s_Dredd_Orange_Ver?variant=15466&fbclid=IwAR16TqYccdstObwljkUM94OYSKUDuD7sMtYGdnvus1pZilrnYpHbFy-M4w4
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Frank 21 September, 2019, 03:29:05 PM: (https://i.imgur.com/xSkUqCN.png?2)

I think I know who this guy is, if Rebellion need any help tracking him down.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: TordelBack 21 September, 2019, 06:30:40 PM: CF may actually be Rebellion IP himself at this point. He's been one of their most lucrative long-term ventures.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: rogue69 01 October, 2019, 11:56:39 PM: Nice design for a Dredd top but clearly not licenced

https://www.ticalm.com/products/dredd?fbclid=IwAR2nrKCeCiKHjSQj3N2FqEFi7jccmIyoW2DH50aVIdjtBg6vyWtaU92YNn0
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: rogue69 06 October, 2019, 10:53:56 AM: another company making their own 2000AD clothing range

https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/50caldepot/Sci-Fi/_i.html?_storecat=11038336015
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Dash Decent 21 November, 2019, 11:06:20 AM: "2000AD Radio" on YouTube: Link (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDCW7mfQoQsrajpStSCXHOQ)

'Let's put all the Big Finish audios up, then say "No copyright infringement intended".' Yeah, that makes it totally alright...
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: BPP 21 November, 2019, 01:58:47 PM: 300 quid anyone?

https://www.deliciousagainpeter.com/product-page/judge-dredd-hand-carved-limestone (https://www.deliciousagainpeter.com/product-page/judge-dredd-hand-carved-limestone)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: rogue69 03 January, 2020, 06:45:53 AM: Loads of unofficial Judge Dredd T-shirts up on Wish
https://www.wish.com/search/judge%20dredd?&source=search&position=11
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) 20 July, 2020, 10:06:28 PM: What do people suggest is done about files of Rebellion owned comics being shared on Facebook? There's one particular knob on the Scream- Back From The Depths Facebook group who seems intent on sharing pdf files of the comic, one a week, and seems to think it's justified because he's a music producer and this is 'like keeping independent music alive' or some nonsense.

SBT
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: M.I.K. 22 July, 2020, 03:20:09 PM: : SmallBlueThing(Reborn) 20 July, 2020, 10:06:28 PM
What do people suggest is done about files of Rebellion owned comics being shared on Facebook? There's one particular knob on the Scream- Back From The Depths Facebook group who seems intent on sharing pdf files of the comic, one a week, and seems to think it's justified because he's a music producer and this is 'like keeping independent music alive' or some nonsense.

SBT

That particular problem seems to have been dealt with.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: rogue69 15 October, 2020, 06:04:40 AM: there's are a range of backpacks on sale on Amazon
https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=judge+dredd&i=misc&dc&cr
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) 05 April, 2021, 12:10:30 PM: This just came up in my Facebook feed and as we've heard nothing of it to my knowledge, I'm assuming it's shonky.

Apologies for long url thing- no idea how to trim it.

https://www.lucajackets.com/products/mens-judge-dredd-leather-jacket?variant=32094544658525&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=%2A%2ALP+-+Prospecting+-+Conv&utm_term=%2A%2ALP+-+Prospecting+-+Conv+-+3%25+Combined+LAL&utm_content=%2A%2ALP+-+Prospecting+-+Conv+-+3%25+Combined+LAL+-+DPA+-+V1+-+1.21&fbclid=IwAR300SBTXQLYKxZn1EsBRhGwFEQi5aKwJcZ8rsVrzikNVsn8HZ_9jvFml9Y
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Colin YNWA 05 April, 2021, 12:15:06 PM: Interesting that they call it Guardians (of the Galaxy I assume) inspired!

Don't even know who they are ripping off.
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: rogue69 04 May, 2021, 11:45:36 PM: This person has been selling quite a few of these Charley's War Prints on eBay over the past month or so

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224448973574?hash=item3442338b06:g:MB0AAOSwIqJgV0HV
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: The Enigmatic Dr X 05 May, 2021, 09:56:03 AM: : rogue69 04 May, 2021, 11:45:36 PM
This person has been selling quite a few of these Charley's War Prints on eBay over the past month or so

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224448973574?hash=item3442338b06:g:MB0AAOSwIqJgV0HV

Hold on. Is that genuine thing, being re-sold, or is it some scammer having the cheek to scan original art and charge £100 for it?

And if the latter, then the question is who owns the copyright in original art?
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Colin YNWA 05 May, 2021, 09:59:44 AM: Trying to flip this I assume - and if he's selling load its back-fired as you can still get them in the shop!

https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/UNPL0004 (https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/UNPL0004)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Judgedreddrocks 04 July, 2021, 09:11:36 AM: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Decorative-2000-AD-self-standing-logo-display-comics-collectable-Dredd-/255039782242?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0

I’d buy one if Rebellion made these, but this seller has hundreds of copyright infringement products.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) 04 July, 2021, 11:47:21 AM: Is it just the angle, or is that wonky as hell?

SBT
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: hippynumber1 22 August, 2021, 08:43:39 PM: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-Comics-Fruit-Of-The-Loom-Mens-Size-M-Black-2000-AD-Short-T-shirt-/384346754995?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Colin YNWA 22 August, 2021, 08:59:36 PM: : hippynumber1 22 August, 2021, 08:43:39 PM
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JUDGE-DREDD-Comics-Fruit-Of-The-Loom-Mens-Size-M-Black-2000-AD-Short-T-shirt-/384346754995?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0

I might be completely miss remembering but was that a licensed shirt from a good few years ago???
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: hippynumber1 22 August, 2021, 09:25:28 PM: Possibly, Colin. I don’t remember it and don’t recall Rebellion using Fruit of the Loom shirts but my memory isn’t what it used to be.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: M.I.K. 22 August, 2021, 10:03:13 PM: I'm pretty sure Fruit of the Loom is what they're currently using.
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Colin YNWA 22 August, 2021, 10:14:18 PM: I don't think it was a Rebellion shirt, but maybe one of the licenses like Plastic Heads or similar... I mean its very possible I'm completely miss-remembering...
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: metalmarc 13 October, 2021, 08:55:24 PM: T-Shirt bootlegger on Twitter, doing the rounds via Reddit but selling on Twitter

https://twitter.com/antonia27871694/status/1448309331225575428?s=21
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: Dash Decent 30 November, 2021, 01:19:10 PM: Etsy seller with heaps of Dredd badges:

https://www.etsy.com/uk/shop/3dprintsNI (https://www.etsy.com/uk/shop/3dprintsNI)

Looks like these might be cast using a Planet Replicas original?

(https://i.imgur.com/QzKebsU.jpg)
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: rogue69 09 April, 2022, 08:56:51 AM: loads of fake t shirts on eBay
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234499029478?hash=item36993b39e6:g:YAIAAOSwu5NdaU43
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_dmd=2&_dkr=1&iconV2Request=true&_ssn=willy-wong-clothing&store_cat=0&store_name=willywongclothing&_oac=1&_nkw=judge%20dredd
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_dmd=2&_dkr=1&iconV2Request=true&_ssn=digitalpharaohuk&store_cat=0&store_name=digitalpharaoh&_oac=1&_nkw=judge%20dredd
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_dmd=2&_dkr=1&iconV2Request=true&_ssn=50-cal-bunker&store_cat=0&store_name=50caldepot&_oac=1&_nkw=judge%20dredd
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_dmd=2&_dkr=1&iconV2Request=true&_ssn=gray-matter_eu&store_cat=0&store_name=graymattereu&_oac=1&_nkw=judge%20dredd
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: rogue69 11 June, 2022, 06:49:34 AM: Don't know what's worse the artwork or the fact that they used Stalone's Dredd
https://www.digitalpharaoh.co.uk/search?q=judge%20dredd
: Re: 2000ad suspected IP infringement thread
: moly 11 June, 2022, 10:03:53 AM: Rebellion have used fruit of the loom in the past