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Title: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: Colin YNWA on 11 May, 2022, 06:34:49 AM
Well a very significant week in the tournament as we enter Round 3 after the seemingly unending Round two. We're down to the last 128 thrills and from here the quality will step up, but the choices start to get harder. But the lovely thing about this round is there is still plenty of room for mis-matches...

Mechanised Monster Derby this one with Armoured Gideon who has banished Stone Island and the Balls Brothers, mashing metal might against Metalzoic who has crushed the fleshy victims Harry Kipling and Judge Hershey to make it to Round 3. One of these rumbustious robots will take a rollicking, but which?

Armoured Gideon - more info (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=profiles&choice=GIDEON)

Vs

Metalzoic - more info (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=profiles&choice=metal)

Just reply in this thread naming your favourite thrill of these two series at the beginning of your post (or use Bold tags so I can spot it easily) and say what you like about these wonderful stories after that.

Match ends early on the morning of Saturday 14th May and the winner gets a place in Round 4 (of 9!!!).

What on Earth is ALL of this? (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=48011.0)

For those that need 'um and can be bothered to follow 'um there's some simple rules (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=48011.msg1070150#msg1070150)

Any questions, just ask as ever - and have FUN
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: AlexF on 11 May, 2022, 08:24:19 AM
Been trying to justify the part of me that finds Armoured Gideon charming and remembers his strips being more fun than not. But Metalzoic really is a very sophisticated and beautiful story, so I'm not finding it easy. Would be happy if either of these giant robot tales made it through to the next round. Gotta pick a side I guess!

Gonna go with Armoured Gideon, on the strength of Simon Jacob's robot and weird monster designs, which I hoesntly think might just best O'Neill's design work on Metalzoic.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: broodblik on 11 May, 2022, 08:50:44 AM
Metalzoic
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: Barrington Boots on 11 May, 2022, 08:52:11 AM
Definitely Armoured Gideon here.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: rogue69 on 11 May, 2022, 09:01:54 AM
Metalzoic
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: abelardsnazz on 11 May, 2022, 09:06:05 AM
Armoured Gideon for the tremendous fun it was. Still holding out for it appearing in the Ultimate Collection as we don't know all of the contents yet.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: IndigoPrime on 11 May, 2022, 09:12:54 AM
Oh, come on! This is like when two qualifiers end up meeting each other in the fourth round of the FA Cup. Bah.

Armoured Gideon has some of the finest robot design around. It's imaginative and weird. It's, frankly, hugely disappointing that it won't be part of the UC, because it bloody well deserves to be, and far worse strips are getting HC treatment. But Metalzoic? That's got some gorgeous artwork and a fantastic early Mills story that balances imagination, societal points and sci-fi, without veering off into his later overbalance towards preaching. Also, I'd argue the black and white 2000 AD version is the definitive one, letting the art properly shine, compared to the relatively murky US release.

Argh.

No. I refuse. I just can't do it. I'm sitting on this fence until there's an imprint across my butt cheeks.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: Blue Cactus on 11 May, 2022, 09:19:13 AM
Ooh, tough one this. I'd like complete collections of both of these please Tharg. Not read either for many years. Need to dwell on this choice for a bit.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: sheridan on 11 May, 2022, 09:27:12 AM
I'd consider the demon-fighting robot, but it's up against a robot baboon (not to mention those mek-mammoths), so Metalzoic gets my vote.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: The Mind of Wolfie Smith on 11 May, 2022, 10:14:01 AM
armoured gideon
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: Huey2 on 11 May, 2022, 10:16:27 AM
Metalzoic. Mills and O'Neill at their very best - A fantastic blend of A.B.C. Warriors and Slaine but better and a comic which could not have worked in any other medium. Plus that run of covers was great.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: Link Prime on 11 May, 2022, 10:36:01 AM
I'll be happy if either get through, but my fingers seemingly cannot type a vote against a Mills & O'Neill series.

Metalzoic
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: Blue Cactus on 11 May, 2022, 12:56:29 PM
Metalzoic.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: skurvy on 11 May, 2022, 01:27:08 PM
Complete no-brianer. Metalzoic
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: sheridan on 11 May, 2022, 01:33:45 PM
Quote from: Link Prime on 11 May, 2022, 10:36:01 AM
I'll be happy if either get through, but my fingers seemingly cannot type a vote against a Mills & O'Neill series.

That's understandable - but then I put down my full-fledged Squaxxdom down to Book III of Nemesis the Warlock.  That's the story that inspired me-as-a-kid to make plasticine figures and draw lots of figures in cloaks on my schoobooks.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 11 May, 2022, 01:50:43 PM
Gideon was great fun, but it's got to be Metalzoic, an absolute classic.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) on 11 May, 2022, 02:54:33 PM
Metalzoic. Though Armoured Gideon was huge fun.

SBT
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: NapalmKev on 11 May, 2022, 04:02:22 PM
Armoured Gideon.

A complete physical collection would be lovely.

Cheers
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: Southstreeter on 11 May, 2022, 04:32:53 PM
Armoured Gideon. Great to see him guesting in the Order, too.

Everyone always goes on about Metalzoic but I really can't remember anything about it apart from the classic 'Brian' cover.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: Proudhuff on 11 May, 2022, 04:44:51 PM
Couldn't be ersed with either... so a half point each.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: BPP on 11 May, 2022, 06:16:26 PM
Unless you've operated on your own brain it's Metalzoic
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: Funt Solo on 11 May, 2022, 06:26:09 PM
On the strength of the story, it's Metalzoic.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: Colin YNWA on 11 May, 2022, 09:51:10 PM
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 11 May, 2022, 09:12:54 AM
No. I refuse. I just can't do it. I'm sitting on this fence until there's an imprint across my butt cheeks.

Think I might make a rule that says if you wish to abstain you have to say this!

and also

WHAT!
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: maryanddavid on 12 May, 2022, 10:53:25 PM
No insult to AG, which was good fun, but Metalzoic is Mills and O'Neill's finest!
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: Magnetica on 12 May, 2022, 11:11:24 PM
Metalzoic.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: Colin YNWA on 13 May, 2022, 06:28:03 AM
You can hear the metalic crashing of the votes colliding from here. There seems to be a clear leader but its far from one way traffic. Pop ya votes in today and I'll count up in the morning.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: credo on 13 May, 2022, 09:10:27 AM
This has me thinking about just how many awesome giant robots there have been in 2000ad. Even those in sub-par stories have had great art: Charlie, the Terra-Meks (and the many Mek-Quakes since), Mad George, Torque-Armada, Gideon, Maniac 5 (and 6), the cast of Metalzoic and now Mechastopheles.

Have I missed any? Does the Shaky Kane drawn Robot Mytek from the '90s Action Special count? I feel like there must be Dredd 'bots here I'm forgetting.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: Colin YNWA on 13 May, 2022, 10:00:44 AM
Quote from: credo on 13 May, 2022, 09:10:27 AM
This has me thinking about just how many awesome giant robots there have been in 2000ad. Even those in sub-par stories have had great art: Charlie, the Terra-Meks (and the many Mek-Quakes since), Mad George, Torque-Armada, Gideon, Maniac 5 (and 6), the cast of Metalzoic and now Mechastopheles.

Have I missed any? Does the Shaky Kane drawn Robot Mytek from the '90s Action Special count? I feel like there must be Dredd 'bots here I'm forgetting.

Broodblik - a good idea for you...
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: broodblik on 13 May, 2022, 10:26:51 AM
Quote from: Colin YNWA on 13 May, 2022, 10:00:44 AM
Quote from: credo on 13 May, 2022, 09:10:27 AM
This has me thinking about just how many awesome giant robots there have been in 2000ad. Even those in sub-par stories have had great art: Charlie, the Terra-Meks (and the many Mek-Quakes since), Mad George, Torque-Armada, Gideon, Maniac 5 (and 6), the cast of Metalzoic and now Mechastopheles.

Have I missed any? Does the Shaky Kane drawn Robot Mytek from the '90s Action Special count? I feel like there must be Dredd 'bots here I'm forgetting.

Yes good idea some heavy metal stuff
Broodblik - a good idea for you...
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: sheridan on 13 May, 2022, 11:42:22 AM
Quote from: credo on 13 May, 2022, 09:10:27 AM
This has me thinking about just how many awesome giant robots there have been in 2000ad. Even those in sub-par stories have had great art: Charlie, the Terra-Meks (and the many Mek-Quakes since), Mad George, Torque-Armada, Gideon, Maniac 5 (and 6), the cast of Metalzoic and now Mechastopheles.

Have I missed any? Does the Shaky Kane drawn Robot Mytek from the '90s Action Special count? I feel like there must be Dredd 'bots here I'm forgetting.


From Judge Dredd: the Heavy Metal Kids and Monsteroso (https://sheridanwilde.wordpress.com/2020/11/10/2000ad-prog-412-whos-putting-the-squeeze-on-j-d-dont-break-the-law-creep-i-crush-you-good-monsteroso-m16/).
From Nemesis the Warlock (in Diceman issue one): the Tube Worm (https://2000ad.fandom.com/wiki/Tube_Worm)
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: sheridan on 13 May, 2022, 12:04:06 PM
Oh, let's try and be completist:
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: moly on 13 May, 2022, 09:34:09 PM
Armoured gideon
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Armoured Gideon vs. Metalzoic Round 3 Heat 6
Post by: Colin YNWA on 14 May, 2022, 06:54:43 AM
VOTING CLOSED

One of my fav votes this one, not because of the contenders, both of which I like a lot, but this vote exempifies what I love most about these tournaments the fact that they can inspire some really fun chat and ideas that spin off. The vote itself wasn't that close, probably not surprisingly. Armoured Gideon is a good thrill elevated by the rubbish that often surrounded it. Metalzoic is prime era Mills and O'Neill and so

Metazolic

continues their search in Round 4.