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Title: Fay Dalton can't get work in comics
Post by: Frank on 30 May, 2016, 11:09:45 PM

According to Pat Mills (http://hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/2/a/3/2a3026e1cfd929c2/ECBT2000AD_Ep256_Pat2.mp3?c_id=11780090&expiration=1464650087&hwt=02aa33fecce69bb9f882812337089fa6), Fay Dalton can't get work in comics. FAY DALTON.

I assumed the reason why she wasn't producing cover images for US publishers that make Alex Ross look slapdash was that she was earning too much cash elsewhere, but Mills says he's shown her work around the major publishers without success. Dark Horse said her storytelling wasn't up to scratch.

My suggestion is that Tharg should get Dalton drawing Future Shocks, 3rillers, Judge Beeny or Maitland solo series, a Maze Dumoir reboot - anything:


(http://i.imgur.com/jWyhDIj.png?1)


http://www.faydaltonillustration.com/page17.htm
Title: Re: Fay Dalton can't get work in comics
Post by: Link Prime on 30 May, 2016, 11:16:00 PM
Pair her up with James Robinson.
Title: Re: Fay Dalton can't get work in comics
Post by: maryanddavid on 30 May, 2016, 11:20:21 PM
Pat should write a continuation of Diceman and get Fay to draw it.
From the little I have seen, a fantastic artist.
Title: Re: Fay Dalton can't get work in comics
Post by: Colin YNWA on 31 May, 2016, 06:46:35 AM
Well can't comment on her storytelling but adored the cover she did and would love her to get the catch to learn her trade.

Just goes to show how difficult it is. Someone of that talent struggling is astonishing!
Title: Re: Fay Dalton can't get work in comics
Post by: Theblazeuk on 31 May, 2016, 09:45:25 AM
The only bit of Ostriches I enjoyed were the 'Files' she illustrated. More dynamic than a Greg Land or Bryan Hitch drawing any day.

Bah.
Title: Re: Fay Dalton can't get work in comics
Post by: TordelBack on 31 May, 2016, 10:13:34 AM
I'll echo the general bewilderment, Dalton is a hell of a talent.

Even so,  I still can't unsee the Urban-sized helmet that Anderson is cradling...
Title: Re: Fay Dalton can't get work in comics
Post by: IndigoPrime on 31 May, 2016, 11:48:23 AM
I thought her art was pretty good. I'd be happy to see her on Anderson, assuming her Anderson at some point remembered how her uniform's zip worked.
Title: Re: Fay Dalton can't get work in comics
Post by: SIP on 31 May, 2016, 01:40:28 PM
I love her style, but can see that she is possibly accepted more as a pin up artist than a strip artist. Would be happy to see her regularly in the prog.
Title: Re: Fay Dalton can't get work in comics
Post by: Proudhuff on 31 May, 2016, 04:38:28 PM
She could get work illustrating  the 'What kate did' website, or maybe that's just me...
Title: Re: Fay Dalton can't get work in comics
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 31 May, 2016, 04:52:15 PM
—INSERT NAME OF TALENTED ARTIST HERE— can't get work in comics.

It'd be a long list. Go take a look at Mark Millar's Hit Girl audition thread (http://forums.millarworld.tv/t/would-you-like-10-000-plus-royalties-an-issue-to-draw-hit-girl/5976), for example, and note the number of talented, professionally published artists prepared to publicly audition for a gig on there who aren't currently working.

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Fay Dalton can't get work in comics
Post by: SIP on 31 May, 2016, 06:35:22 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 31 May, 2016, 04:52:15 PM
—INSERT NAME OF TALENTED ARTIST HERE— can't get work in comics.

It'd be a long list. Go take a look at Mark Millar's Hit Girl audition thread (http://forums.millarworld.tv/t/would-you-like-10-000-plus-royalties-an-issue-to-draw-hit-girl/5976), for example, and note the number of talented, professionally published artists prepared to publicly audition for a gig on there who aren't currently working.

Cheers

Jim

Yeah,  I looked at the submissions on there,  surprised me how many industry professionals put themselves up for it. I imagine the number of people wanting to move into the industry has only grown in the last 20 years,  Makes sense that there would be a shortage of work.   
Title: Re: Fay Dalton can't get work in comics
Post by: Tjm86 on 31 May, 2016, 07:15:25 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 31 May, 2016, 04:52:15 PM
—INSERT NAME OF TALENTED ARTIST HERE— can't get work in comics.

It'd be a long list. Go take a look at Mark Millar's Hit Girl audition thread (http://forums.millarworld.tv/t/would-you-like-10-000-plus-royalties-an-issue-to-draw-hit-girl/5976), for example, and note the number of talented, professionally published artists prepared to publicly audition for a gig on there who aren't currently working.

Cheers

Jim

Especially considering how crap Millar can be.  Granted he has produced some better work since moving to his intended Marvel / DC market but even so he can still produce some tripe.  Sorry but there is just so much of what he has done that cannot even be described as mediocre.
Title: Re: Fay Dalton can't get work in comics
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 31 May, 2016, 07:36:56 PM
Quote from: Tjm86 on 31 May, 2016, 07:15:25 PM
Especially considering how crap Millar can be.

You saw the part where he was offering ten thousand bucks an issue plus royalties, on a guaranteed eight issues over a one year period, right?

Cheers

Jim
Title: Re: Fay Dalton can't get work in comics
Post by: Tjm86 on 31 May, 2016, 07:47:26 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 31 May, 2016, 07:36:56 PM

You saw the part where he was offering ten thousand bucks an issue plus royalties, on a guaranteed eight issues over a one year period, right?

Cheers

Jim

I can't even begin to list the number of performers / acts that have been considered popular over the years but have been obscenely dire.  "For what shall it profit a man if he gain the whole world and lose his own soul?"


BTW: I know the Bonfire of the Vanities answer.
Title: Re: Fay Dalton can't get work in comics
Post by: AlexF on 28 July, 2016, 08:49:18 AM
Lots of talented people out there for sure, not least on that Millarworld link. But frankly I'd rather see Fay Dalton over any of them - it really stands out from the crowd.
Title: Re: Fay Dalton can't get work in comics
Post by: Professor Bear on 28 July, 2016, 10:26:58 AM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 31 May, 2016, 04:52:15 PM
—INSERT NAME OF TALENTED ARTIST HERE— can't get work in comics.

It'd be a long list. Go take a look at Mark Millar's Hit Girl audition thread (http://forums.millarworld.tv/t/would-you-like-10-000-plus-royalties-an-issue-to-draw-hit-girl/5976), for example, and note the number of talented, professionally published artists prepared to publicly audition for a gig on there who aren't currently working.

Cheers

Jim

I'm not knocking how difficult it is to get work as a comics artist, though I wouldn't be surprised if more than a few of those artists already had paying gigs lined up but figure they'd have to be mental to not take a shot at a high-profile 80k payday on a project that - no offence to Millar or his publishers - might not have the most stringently-enforced deadlines if past form is any indicator.
An artist plays their cards right, they could be working on two jobs at once, one of which is paying way over the industry rate.
Title: Re: Fay Dalton can't get work in comics
Post by: strontium71 on 29 July, 2016, 07:44:30 PM
She did do that variant cover featuring Durham Red though -

(http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af68/strontium71/001_1.jpg)

:lol:Not really , but shameless plug , it is for sale  :)
Title: Re: Fay Dalton can't get work in comics
Post by: TordelBack on 29 July, 2016, 07:52:55 PM
Oh my.
Title: Re: Fay Dalton can't get work in comics
Post by: matty_ae on 30 July, 2016, 07:40:22 PM
Strontium 71 - let me know how much by PM
I think I've sent you a message but front the wrong account.
Title: Re: Fay Dalton can't get work in comics
Post by: Link Prime on 02 August, 2016, 12:04:04 PM
Wonderful piece Strontium71, I'd be hanging onto it until I ran out of porridge.

Which Prog had the blank sketch cover variant by the way?
Title: Re: Fay Dalton can't get work in comics
Post by: Steve Green on 02 August, 2016, 02:10:15 PM
None, it was one made up by Strontium71 - nice idea.
Title: Re: Fay Dalton can't get work in comics
Post by: IAMTHESYSTEM on 03 August, 2016, 10:50:27 AM
Well that's a bit harsh! Fay's work is magnificent similar in style to Bernie Fuchs and Mead Schaeffer. Perhaps stylistically there isn't much room in modern comic books, with it's emphasis on Super heroes for the more illustrative style of work. Bugger eh?
Title: Re: Fay Dalton can't get work in comics
Post by: Link Prime on 03 August, 2016, 06:04:54 PM
Quote from: Steve Green on 02 August, 2016, 02:10:15 PM
None, it was one made up by Strontium71 - nice idea.

Very nice.
Title: Re: Fay Dalton can't get work in comics
Post by: Trent on 10 August, 2016, 11:36:38 AM
Picked up the Folio Society edition of Casino Royale recently as illustrated by the redoubtable Fay Dalton. Lovely stuff.