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What's this I've stumbled over... I'm sure some Goth will tell me...

Link: Nice video...

wow! what a find

so 80s, so goth, so shiiiiiite

Nemesis looks a bit like the one from that photo-strip

What a dreadful song.

Lordy. I've been wanting to see this for a while since first hearing about it - now I wish I hadn't. Sitting through the entire thing waiting for it to 'get good' was probably a mistake, too.

That was one disturbing video/song-disturbingly bad!
It was like an 'A' Level Art student's wet dream!

"so 80s, so goth"

Err ...

One: it's 'Nemesis'

Two: I'm not particularly convinced that that is the genuine video for the track

Three: Shriekback are not, and never have been, Goths. The band is an off-shoot from XTC and - if there are any XTC fans still alive - the latest Shriekback album has Andy Partridge guesting, making it an XTC album in all but name.

The album from which this track comes - Oil and Gold - is really rather a varied beast, and the only other track remotely in this vein is the splendidly barking 'Hammerheads' ... how could you not love a song with the lyric: "This is our mission/To be the Daleks of God"?

If you've seen the Michael Mann version of Red Dragon, 'Manhunter', you've heard about half the album already, since it features very heavily on the soundtrack.

Yes, I am a sad old goth, but there's more than goth music in my record collection and, trust me, this ain't goth.

Cheers!

Jim

Wow. They're certainly, um, very enthusiastic about whatever it is that they are doing. All the costumes and the theatricality  kind of reminds me of the David Bowie ashes to ashes video. But without the clown, and a bit rubbish.

YouTube needs to spellcheck it's titles.

...and on YouTubing Ashes To Ashes I see they are in fact not very similar at all. No masks there... stupid failing memory.

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r44OFO-MNPo

[shrug] I quite liked that song, actually. Although I've known *of* Shriekback, this is the first time I've heard any of their stuff (at least knowingly).

Tbh, I can't see why people automatically seem to go "Urgh! 80s music=shit!", when as pop goes, it was  a fucking great period.

hmm...

Link: http://www.stockaitkenwaterman.com/

Playlist of the damned!

Link: http://www.stockaitkenwaterman.com/discogs/saw-sin

"I can't see why people automatically seem to go "Urgh! 80s music=shit!", when as pop goes, it was a fucking great period."

Now, I'd be worried if I really thought you were being serious...

Link: Oh God! I'm bleeding from my ears AND eyes!

Be fair, though! You can pick shite out of *any* era. You can do the same with the 70s, 60s and pretty much *everything* chart-wise post 1990.

So, is there any more music videos out there featurng similaer 2000Ad imagery?

You can, but the 80s beats all other eras on volume and ubiquity of shite.

Also it had the worst clothes and hair.

I shouldn't have clicked... I shouldn't have clicked...

Hurrah! Something form the 80s I like!

Link: Proper depressing

The 80s was brilliant and the hair wasn't as bad as the 70s. For mine. as for the music, I think the silliness and crap music is unfairly dwelt on. That used to be the case for the 70s, so maybe the good 80s (ie the good music)  will be rehabilitated one day.
  I saw Shriekback live once. they were okay.  they used to bill themselves as the first ever Buddhist punk group, or something like that.  
  Does that clip count as fan fic? should Mills be told?

It probably IS Pat Mills.

>Hurrah! Something form the 80s I like!

I prefer the cover version...

Link: Sing it Russ!

You're doing nothing for my 80s-hate.

Towards the end of the Shriekback video there's a bloke singing with what appears to be a nappy stuck on his face, something you don't see everyday...

Link: Lufthansa Terminal

Jim, yeah, that's the video.  They used to play it on MTV's 120 Minutes all the time.

It might not be "goth"... But I sure as hell played it a lot in the years I was a goth-industrial dj. LOL

I've always liked the song, myself. :)

It's that 80's stuff my goth friends like.
in other words - shit

Mmmm... Pamela Stephenson....

Heh, I quite liked it.  A disapointing ealy tantalising glimpse of Nemesis the Warlock, which combined with the scrolls, skulls and goblets made me think we were in for a much bigger treat video wise.  Almost all of the stuff filmed for the band was daft.  More Nemesis the Warlock!  Torquemada should have come on and they had a big fight and stuff.

Yeah, song was fun in a gothy sot of way.

I reckon sone sort of goth metal- (not emo!)bordering on black metal would be a more fitting soundtrack for Nemesis

I'd be more self concious wearing those trousers.

I remember that song (having finally listened to the clip). It was alright, it.  
  How come it hasn't been mentioned before? There's a contrast with the umpteen times we've been told that Transvision Vamp did a song about Halo Jones

I rather enjoyed that.  What a great rhyme for "Nemesis"!

In a jungle of the senses
Tinkerbell and Jack the ripper
Love has no meaning, not where they come from
But we know pleasure is not that simple
Very little fruit is forbidden
Sometimes we wobble, sometimes we're strong
But you know evil is an exact science
Being carefully correctly wrong

Chorus
Priests and cannibals, prehistoric animals
Everybody happy as the dead come home
Big Black Nemesis, parthenogenesis
No one move a muscle as the dead come home

We feel like Greeks, we feel like Romans
Centaurs and monkeys just cluster round us
We drink elixirs that we refine
from the juices of the dying
We are no monsters, we're moral people
and yet we have the strength to do this
This is the splendour of our achievement
Call in the airstrike with a poison kiss

Chorus
Priests and cannibals, prehistoric animals
Everybody happy as the dead come home
Big black nemesis, parthenogenesis
No-one move a muscle as the dead come home

How bad it gets, you can't imagine
the burning wax, the breath of reptiles
god is not mocked, he knows our business
Karma could take us at any moment
Cover him up.....I think we're finished
You know it's never been so exotic
but I don't know, my dreams are visions
We could still end up with the great big fishes

Chorus
Priests and cannibals, prehistoric animals
Everybody happy as the dead come home
Big black nemesis, parthenogenesis
No-one move a muscle as the dead come home

see now, put that to some good music and itd be a winner

lets reform the 2000ad message board band that never was

What a spiffing idea! There's a site called Bolt.com, which basically assembles tracks from various users to form one unified recording. The results are often variable, but it's a fun idea.
Might as well pimp our band while I'm here!
Check out the T-Shirt in the live video.
Doing my bit for promoting 2000AD to the uninitiated.
Check out our new track, Slave! It's all about having sex with robots-which, come on, we've all thought about once!
Savalas.

It occurred to me that it's entirely possible the inclusion of a performer in a Nemesis the Warlock costume was the idea of the video's director or one of the costume designers, rather than at the band's request.

Songwriter: (thinks) "Big black Nemesis... cool lyric. I think I'll rhyme it with parthenogenesis."

Video director: (thinks) "Nemesis... that's a comic book character from 2000ad, innit? I'll get the costume designers to knock up a costume for the video."

Josh (that guy who was baned) says "'This Big Hush' is better and that they're a great band".

and that their lead singer used to be a 2000ad fan!

and "dreadful song? I'll kick their asses!"

PS for Dr Knight: "The video was definitely the bands decision. They're 2000ad fans. One of their songs has the line: I wanna live with Halo Jones"

Josh was telling you about them at Bristol.

Oh.

Thanks for the clarification, Max. Say hello to Josh for me. What a curious thing it is, Josh knowing the work of Shriekback when he was not even born at the time, whereas I'm older and yet I totally failed to register their existence in my youth.

I am quite fond of both mainstream and 'alternative' pop from that era, but I'm still filling in gaps in my collection. I recently picked up a copy of Fire Dances by Killing Joke (but wasn't greatly impressed), and there are still a few Nitzer Ebb CDs I want to track down at very little expense.

I wonder if this was made around about the time Pat Mills decided to have Nemesis live in a bedsit with some goths.

Big Black Nemisis...

Link: ...lizard pathonogenisis