New OMNICORP website thingamy:
(http://www.omnicorp.com/images/slides/ed-209.jpg)
http://www.omnicorp.com/
Looks good! But I prefer the old one as it got big fucking guns!
Quote from: Goaty on 07 July, 2012, 10:19:45 PM
Looks good! But I prefer the old one as it got big fucking guns!
Quote of the week.
Helmet's too big. Shoulders too slopey. I smell fail.
If the Robocop new verison of suit based on that metal skin, very worried!
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 07 July, 2012, 10:26:14 PM
Helmet's too big. Shoulders too slopey. I smell fail.
José Padilha's
Tropa de Elite features SWAT-type uniforms, four-by-four vehicles and a slummy city. All these elements are guaranteed fail. They failed in the smash hit sequel too.
It looks like a slightly updated version of the old ED-209, could they not have put a bit more thought and originality into that new one? Despite a pretty stellar cast for the remake, this might turn out a mixed affair at best...although it's certain to be a hella' better than the two sequels/television series/mini-series/cartoon show/comic books/etc, etc, etc...
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 08 July, 2012, 04:16:44 AM
It looks like a slightly updated version of the old ED-209, could they not have put a bit more thought and originality into that new one?
Does anyone think it's good that it looks really digital...?
It's meant to be a 'company' promo so I'd let that slide, it's not the film.
It does look rather atypical though.
Those ROBOCOP miniseries things are on LOVEFILM - there's a bout four of them I think. Are they any good? And what order should I not bother watching them in?
Murphy is a little short but they ain't bad takes on it. Better than the tv series
Someone's had the clever and utterly original idea of making a spoof corporate video to promote the new Robocop film.
I'D BUY THAT FOR A DOLLAR! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzmuvtREnnw)
Any parallels this film can draw between itself and Prometheus can surely only make positive associations in the minds of the viewing public.
ED-209 looks huge in the new version - look at the tank it destroys in the ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=G9uxoOmy_iA
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 08 July, 2012, 04:48:41 PM
Those ROBOCOP miniseries things are on LOVEFILM - there's a bout four of them I think. Are they any good? And what order should I not bother watching them in?
The short answer is don't, and that's coming from someone who has Robocop: the series on dvd, and bought the trilogy on Blu Ray just to watch Robocop 3. The five films you refer to are actually an edited season-long story arc from a failed Robocop tv series called Prime Directives that was made on the erroneous assumption that if they just went ahead and made a Robocop tv show someone would buy it sooner or later, and as such they have loads of bits missing, like explaining why Robocop fights actual supervillains now (and naff ones at that), or why nobody can tell the difference between Robocop and Evil Robocop when Evil Robocop is a black guy.
They're just
awful films, devoid of even the glimpses of satirical invention that Robocop 3 and The Series managed, and they concentrate on the one element common to all the worst bits of Robocop films, cartoons, comics, and tv shows: Robocop on the run or badly damaged. He's a character that only really works as an active aggressor, and to see an entire series dedicated to him moping about being old/obsolete is more boring than even I could cope with. Once you get past the inherent hilarity of the idea that someone actually made a tv series about Robocop having a mid life crisis, there's nothing about them worth a damn.
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 08 July, 2012, 04:16:44 AM
It looks like a slightly updated version of the old ED-209, could they not have put a bit more thought and originality into that new one?
+1, If there's gonna be bloody reboots of everything how about a little effort towards maybe a different take on the idea, visually, script -wise..all of it
The very notion of disturbing the sacred tomb of this - the greatest film known to man - is an outrage and a disgrace. The mental pygmies that conceived this act of necrophilic depravity, should be strung up from the nearest lampost and set alight.
Then, the children can bask in the heat of the flames, and listen to their parents tell tales of ED-209, and that guy who said 'I'd buy that for a dollar', their eyes wide with wonderment, and glistening in the fading light.
Ah.... ED-209.... you big, clunky looking, stop-motion bastard. How I love you!
Seeing that clip has made me wanna dig out the box set and watch Robocop again and hell... even Robocop 2. The third one can piss off though.
And on the remake, well not to depress you all but the original was 25 years ago.
I'll say that again so it can really sink into your soul... TWENTY FIVE YEARS AGO! To take that far a step back would be like Robocop being a remake of a movie from 1962. So bearing that in mind I say go for it. It's been more than long enough
and Mad Max is 33 years old, although I would prefer if the new RoboCop was a proper sequel to the first and only good one; and why they're remaking that Judge Dredd film I'll never fathom.
I'm sure on the special features of my Robocop DVD box set there's a woman making pizzas with her really horrible boobs. Is that right or was I dreaming?
(http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/10300/Robocop_Provisional_Cine_1.jpg)
Quote from: Jared Katooie on 11 July, 2012, 10:30:14 PM
The very notion of disturbing the sacred tomb of this - the greatest film known to man - is an outrage and a disgrace. The mental pygmies that conceived this act of necrophilic depravity, should be strung up from the nearest lampost and set alight. Then, the children can bask in the heat of the flames, and listen to their parents tell tales of ED-209, and that guy who said 'I'd buy that for a dollar', their eyes wide with wonderment, and glistening in the fading light.
And there it is ladies and germs, the post of the year, :lol: but also :thumbsup:... and then some!
Quote from: Jared Katooie on 11 July, 2012, 10:30:14 PM
The very notion of disturbing the sacred tomb of this - the greatest film known to man - is an outrage and a disgrace. The mental pygmies that conceived this act of necrophilic depravity, should be strung up from the nearest lampost and set alight.
Then, the children can bask in the heat of the flames, and listen to their parents tell tales of ED-209, and that guy who said 'I'd buy that for a dollar', their eyes wide with wonderment, and glistening in the fading light.
I'll buy that for a dollar
I wonder if they'll keep the Frankenstein qualites of the original, that gives the whole "clunky future" vibe enough charm to work. I think the brain implanted in a machine feels to ineffective to run such a spectacle as robocop since the devolpment of computers now days.
Maybe they'll let Murphy be alive this time, and let him roam the streets in more of a exo-skeleton or something. More Jesus than Monster.
Started DARK JUSTICE and gave up after ten minutes. It seemed too hard to be trying to catch a twenty five year old vibe (well, probably fifteen when they were made).
I didnt realise they'd bring a similar 'robot' back as a potential 'badguy' or tool of evil use for the remake.
Quote from: nuffsaid on 08 July, 2012, 08:59:42 AM
Quote from: Beaky Smoochies on 08 July, 2012, 04:16:44 AM
It looks like a slightly updated version of the old ED-209, could they not have put a bit more thought and originality into that new one?
Does anyone think it's good that it looks really digital...?
well it reminds me of the aesthetics they've employed in the remake of Total Rekall.
SPOILERS
http://www.robocoparchive.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=2972&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=42&sid=d33b9d431a6e33f4ee95f635f3aa6287 (http://www.robocoparchive.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=2972&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=42&sid=d33b9d431a6e33f4ee95f635f3aa6287)
^ designs?
http://comics-x-aminer.com/2012/07/30/robocop-2013-concept-art-revealed/ (http://comics-x-aminer.com/2012/07/30/robocop-2013-concept-art-revealed/)
^more designs/concept art??? I dont think the bottom pic is, as it looks too much more like Mass Effect, or something worn by the guys in Del Toro's Pacific Rim - but I like the design none the less.
with a few more actors jumping on board this film, I'm strangely looking forward to how they take Robocop on and if they fail massively in creating something as good as the original
Quote from: Tiplodocus on 16 July, 2012, 01:52:56 PM
Started DARK JUSTICE and gave up after ten minutes. It seemed too hard to be trying to catch a twenty five year old vibe (well, probably fifteen when they were made).
I did warn you.
Quote from: judgeblake on 08 August, 2012, 11:43:40 PM
SPOILERS
http://www.robocoparchive.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=2972&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=42&sid=d33b9d431a6e33f4ee95f635f3aa6287 (http://www.robocoparchive.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=2972&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=42&sid=d33b9d431a6e33f4ee95f635f3aa6287)
^ designs?
http://comics-x-aminer.com/2012/07/30/robocop-2013-concept-art-revealed/ (http://comics-x-aminer.com/2012/07/30/robocop-2013-concept-art-revealed/)
^more designs/concept art??? I dont think the bottom pic is, as it looks too much more like Mass Effect, or something worn by the guys in Del Toro's Pacific Rim - but I like the design none the less.
None of that art is official. It was on the web long before pre-production started.
aaahhh right ok
Possibly 'bad script' review:
When this thing hits theaters, people are going to call up Len Wiseman's "Total Recall" on the phone and apologize for being so mean. "I'm sorry, 'Total Recall.' I had no idea how bad things could get. You're starting to look like a masterpiece right about now."
http://collider.com/robocop-remake-script-review/188614/
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2012, 01:40:35 AM
(http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/10300/Robocop_Provisional_Cine_1.jpg)
If only they could get that photoshop bevel filter under control
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 13 August, 2012, 10:52:50 PM
Possibly 'bad script' review:
When this thing hits theaters, people are going to call up Len Wiseman's "Total Recall" on the phone and apologize for being so mean. "I'm sorry, 'Total Recall.' I had no idea how bad things could get. You're starting to look like a masterpiece right about now."
http://collider.com/robocop-remake-script-review/188614/
I call bullshit. Guy's made a name on the internet making the same kind of paraphrased bastardisations of pop-cultural phrases and ideas that he's ripping on the remake script for doing. That's the problem with being a professional smug hipster twat - you're in no position to rag on anyone for doing the same thing.
Quote from: Durendal on 14 August, 2012, 12:43:06 AM
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 12 July, 2012, 01:40:35 AM
(http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/10300/Robocop_Provisional_Cine_1.jpg)
If only they could get that photoshop bevel filter under control
Needs some lens flare.
It's going well, then:
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a402133/robocop-remake-hell-for-director-jose-padilha.html (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a402133/robocop-remake-hell-for-director-jose-padilha.html)
QuoteRoboCop director José Padilha is reportedly going through "hell" trying to put together the remake.
The Brazilian filmmaker, whose credits include documentary Bus 174 and the Elite Squad movies, has been relaying his struggles with RoboCop studio MGM to friend Fernando Meirelles (City of God, 360).
Speaking to South American publication Cinemacom Rapadura, Meirelles said that Padilha is seeing most of his ideas get shot down.
"I talked to José Padilha by phone. He will begin filming RoboCop [but] he is saying that it is the worst experience," Meirelles said.
"For every ten ideas he has, nine are cut. Whatever he wants, he has to fight [for]. 'This is hell here', he told me.
Hugh Laurie, who was due to play the villain, has also left the production.
Quote from: radiator on 28 August, 2012, 01:03:27 PM
Hugh Laurie, who was due to play the villain, has also left the production.
His replace?
Michael Keaton
This (was at least, they'v removed the "details" now) makes things look a bit brighter. http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/06/robocop-script-gets-a-second-opinion said the transformer part being mostly colour and minor details. The film will expand upon Murphy loosing his humanity step by step. So who knows, may be good. But it's probably best to remain a bit of a sceptic, at least when hearing what Future of the left's take on it is with their song "Robocop4 Fuck of Robocop :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60COw25TL00
Future of the left - Robocop 4 Fuck off robocop
jaws?
jaws2?
more jaws?
or jaws rebooted?
please - let's take a second to think about a future
state
of love
and bliss
brought to you by
wish lists
of eight year old boys who only crave explosions
why?
well
being eight
they have an excuse -
they are eight!
and giant robots cannot distract them from their fate
middle aged men on a movie date
committed to mortal shame
hey!
relax!
NO-ONE DIED!
in fact- they left improved
if Michael Bay wants a bigger house, let's help him
art?
ha!
where you from?
where you been?
he said -
I went to Cannes once and and really did not have much
fun
why?
well
being French
they talk too much
and all those pages of subtitles kept getting stuck
1 becomes 2, 2 becomes 3
1 becomes 2, 2 becomes 3
pirates of the caribbean 47
johnny depp stars as the robot pirate
who (loses) his wife in a game of poker
and tries to win her back with hilarious consequences
at least Harry Potter has a proper story
in the sense that the characters crave an ending
if (only) to release poor Billy Corgan
from his role as the titular character's nemesis
robocop 4 is in pre-production
like robocop 3 wasn't bad enough
and George Lucas won't be kicking his heels
til he makes some money from Howard the Duck
robocop 4 is in pre-production
like robocop 3 wasn't bad enough
i hope the projectionist likes his action
motion tracked and medicated
Interesting twist since the original RoboCop was about Murphy regaining his identity and therefore by default his humanity. Perhaps it will end with Murphy unable to recognize his family or Police Officer Partner treating them merely as other citizens.
Bit bleak for a Film reputedly aiming for the lucrative Twelve A market but kudos to the Brazilian director Jose Padiha for having some guts to downplay any over sentimental ending.
Quote from: IAMTHESYSTEM on 09 September, 2012, 12:56:43 PM
Interesting twist since the original RoboCop was about Murphy regaining his identity and therefore by default his humanity. Perhaps it will end with Murphy unable to recognize his family or Police Officer Partner treating them merely as other citizens.
Bit bleak for a Film reputedly aiming for the lucrative Twelve A market but kudos to the Brazilian director Jose Padiha for having some guts to downplay any over sentimental ending.
I preferred the fact that they couldn't completely remove his humanity....if they were intend on a machine with no emotion/humanity then why the human brain?? they may aswell bypass that and just build a robot surely it's possible to build a robocop with out the need for a human brain...............
You end up with ED-209. (Or Mechanismo)
Quote from: Steve Green on 09 September, 2012, 08:14:12 PM
You end up with ED-209. (Or Mechanismo)
Indeed but surely you do with a human brain that has no identity/emotion/humanity why would you route for such a character?
I think that was half the reason i liked Robocop first time around yeah he was more machine than man but the humanity gave you a reason to like him. Nobody cares about a robot because it can be replaced/repaired
You can see OCPS reason behind him being devoid of humanity/emotion for many reasons. but again why not just a robot that looks like robop cop just without the human parts? because nobody would route for him.
I'd don't think i could sit in the cinema routing for a robot/cyborg if it's progression is to lose it's humanity IMHO.
Helmet's too big.
(http://www.comingsoon.net/gallery/47176/hr_RoboCop_1.jpg)
(http://www.comingsoon.net/gallery/47176/hr_RoboCop_2.jpg)
Fixed it for you, Mr Soap;
(http://www.darkhorizons.com/assets/0018/8193/robo1.jpg)
(http://www.darkhorizons.com/assets/0018/8195/robo2.jpg)
Danke
Sorry to say, but I really prefer this;
(http://uk.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/119/MPW-59669)
Oh, and there a car...
(http://i.imgur.com/J9x1A.jpg)
I'm too use to the old RoboCop suit which is an iconic creation like the Terminator. The upgraded car looks butch but a slim down Cyborg perhaps reflects the time of this Film's making.
Verhoeven's RoboCop design was pretty muscular reflecting the style of a lot of the Action Movies of the 80's ala Rambo, Predator etc while this 2012 RoboCop is more lean and mean, a slim line version for slim economic times. We're seeing it out of context of course without proper lighting and effects but if you compared the DREDD Uniform to this new RoboCop one and asked me which I preferred DREDD would win hands down. My first impression of the suit was 'Power Rangers' I'm sorry to say. Hope this Film does well though nothing, NOTHING will top Verhoeven's 80's masterpiece.
He looks like GI-Joe or the powersuit from Crysis.
Quote from: Borntohula on 09 September, 2012, 09:13:44 AM
This (was at least, they'v removed the "details" now) makes things look a bit brighter. http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/06/robocop-script-gets-a-second-opinion said the transformer part being mostly colour and minor details. The film will expand upon Murphy loosing his humanity step by step. So who knows, may be good. But it's probably best to remain a bit of a sceptic, at least when hearing what Future of the left's take on it is with their song "Robocop4 Fuck of Robocop :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60COw25TL00
Future of the left - Robocop 4 Fuck off robocop
jaws?
jaws2?
more jaws?
or jaws rebooted?
please - let's take a second to think about a future
state
of love
and bliss
brought to you by
wish lists
of eight year old boys who only crave explosions
why?
well
being eight
they have an excuse -
they are eight!
and giant robots cannot distract them from their fate
middle aged men on a movie date
committed to mortal shame
hey!
relax!
NO-ONE DIED!
in fact- they left improved
if Michael Bay wants a bigger house, let's help him
art?
ha!
where you from?
where you been?
he said -
I went to Cannes once and and really did not have much
fun
why?
well
being French
they talk too much
and all those pages of subtitles kept getting stuck
1 becomes 2, 2 becomes 3
1 becomes 2, 2 becomes 3
pirates of the caribbean 47
johnny depp stars as the robot pirate
who (loses) his wife in a game of poker
and tries to win her back with hilarious consequences
at least Harry Potter has a proper story
in the sense that the characters crave an ending
if (only) to release poor Billy Corgan
from his role as the titular character's nemesis
robocop 4 is in pre-production
like robocop 3 wasn't bad enough
and George Lucas won't be kicking his heels
til he makes some money from Howard the Duck
robocop 4 is in pre-production
like robocop 3 wasn't bad enough
i hope the projectionist likes his action
motion tracked and medicated
Yeah, that sounded almost reasonable until this...
"at least Harry Potter has a proper story
in the sense that the characters crave an ending"
Seriously? :lol: That's what their lyrics are? :lol: What a bunch of twats. Also, who? :lol:
Incidentally, new Robocop looks crap and I most definitely won't be going to see it. I kow we shouldn't judge on these pre-production things but really. The original Robocop looks like, you know, a robot? That looks like a guy with a stillsuit and a hat.
Quote from: Goaty on 15 September, 2012, 07:14:32 PM
Fixed it for you, Mr Soap;
(http://www.darkhorizons.com/assets/0018/8193/robo1.jpg)
(http://www.darkhorizons.com/assets/0018/8195/robo2.jpg)
He's more machine than man now. Twisted and evil.
V
I quite liked the look of the new suit* in the design pictures earlier in this thread, but when I look at him in those shots I find the suit* looks... bitty. A in bits, I mean. I am not making a lady-lump milky reference.
I much prefer the original.
Kudos to the creators for trying something else though. I wonder how it will be on screen.
*Well, not suit, as it's supposed to be his body, but well, there's an actor in it. So fair cop. HA! See what I did. Sorry.
Quote from: Mudcrab on 15 September, 2012, 08:57:56 PM
Yeah, that sounded almost reasonable until this...
"at least Harry Potter has a proper story
in the sense that the characters crave an ending"
Seriously? :lol: That's what their lyrics are? :lol: What a bunch of twats. Also, who? :lol:
Incidentally, new Robocop looks crap and I most definitely won't be going to see it. I kow we shouldn't judge on these pre-production things but really. The original Robocop looks like, you know, a robot? That looks like a guy with a stillsuit and a hat.
Future of the left is lead by the very same Andy Falkous who with his McLusky put out a song called "Lightsaber cocksucking blues". Another song by FotL "Notes on achieving orbit" starts of with the line "Where were you when Russell Brand discovered fire?", almost Bob Dylan class ;)
But about the movie. The four movies José Padilha made before are all real heavy their subjects (Bus 174, a documentary, is so sad it hurts.) so hopefully he'll make a Robocop that feels like if it has a meaning/message or something.
I like it.
Looks quite insectoid/reptilian/Predator, quite alien and different enough from Bats and Dredd that I didn't even think about them. More closely resembles those clones in SG1, Rinzler in Tron Legacy - but hyper-bulked up with an exoskeleton. Probably will be Ironman-esque in special effects, which I like in Ironman but hopefully they'll surprise me and go a different but still visually awesome way.
The missus likes it. Says it's much better on the eyes. I have to agree especially after they have tinkered with it for the final cut.
V
I like it.. And again, it's out of context with no final effects/grade over it.. We've had this discussion before, kids.. While it's not the iconic look of the Robocop of the 80's, it's also not the 80's any more. I asked Ed Neumeier not to long ago about it (the ONLY perk of having worked on Starship troopers 3) and he seems to be cool with it (even has one of those images up as his facebook cover pic..), and it's really his baby that they're playing with. To be fair, I'm sure he's had his fair share of royalties by now to not necessarily care anymore.. I'm going to sit back and patiently wait until I see proper finished footage before I make up my mind.
Quote from: Michaelvk on 17 September, 2012, 01:32:32 AM
I like it.. And again, it's out of context with no final effects/grade over it.. We've had this discussion before, kids.. While it's not the iconic look of the Robocop of the 80's, it's also not the 80's any more. I asked Ed Neumeier not to long ago about it (the ONLY perk of having worked on Starship troopers 3) and he seems to be cool with it (even has one of those images up as his facebook cover pic..), and it's really his baby that they're playing with. To be fair, I'm sure he's had his fair share of royalties by now to not necessarily care anymore.. I'm going to sit back and patiently wait until I see proper finished footage before I make up my mind.
I wonder if they will have the old suit in the new version maybe as a homage???
Quote from: klute on 17 September, 2012, 09:32:41 AM
I wonder if they will have the old suit in the new version maybe as a homage???
Probably in the same way Dredd 3D features the Stallone uniform..
Not liking the look of that suit at all. They could have at least kept it silver.
Quote from: Michaelvk on 17 September, 2012, 01:32:32 AMWe've had this discussion before, kids.. While it's not the iconic look of the Robocop of the 80's, it's also not the 80's any more.
Then why are there Red Dawn, Fright Night, The Thing and Robocop movies in theaters?
The new treatment sounds like The Cyborganizer. And also like that plot done in every sci-fi show ever: "you're too reliant on this new space technology/ultradrug! It's making you less human!" Mind you, if every sci-fi show ever has done it, including kids cartoons, then that just proves it works or something.
New "banner poster"?
(http://i.imgur.com/fYBbo.jpg)
RoboCop with his human hand AND the gun... :-\
(http://i.imgur.com/Lacvk.jpg)
Hmmmmmm crowd seem pretty shocked at the new suit.
I thought they were CGI in the red visor bit.
Need to see a good pic of that. Could save that visor.
This looks very much like a man in suit where the old went to pains to try to give the illusion that it was a wholly robotic body with a human element.
(http://www.blogto.com/upload/2012/10/2012109-robocop1.jpg)
More shots here. http://www.blogto.com/film/2012/10/photos_of_the_new_robocop_being_filmed_in_toronto/
Yeah looks too much like a man in a suit and not enough like a robot.
Maybe they should call it maninsuitocop
Quote from: JamesC on 10 October, 2012, 11:48:13 AM
This looks very much like a man in suit where the old went to pains to try to give the illusion that it was a wholly robotic body with a human element.
I gather the idea is that in the context of the film story he
is a man in a robot suit, but becomes more actual robotic over time for... reasons and stuff.
The original Robocop suit was made of plastic and probably looked like crap out of context.
How much of what made it convincing was things like sound effects?
Judging things by leaked stills is pointless.
Was I the only one that spent the day following first viewing Robocop walking around making pneumatic stomping noises as I walked :lol:
Quote from: radiator on 10 October, 2012, 03:39:34 PM
The original Robocop suit was made of plastic and probably looked like crap out of context.
How much of what made it convincing was things like sound effects?
Judging things by leaked stills is pointless.
The first film was clever in that it showed parts of the body disconnected - like the robot arm demo. There was also the leg holster which helped sell the idea that the leg was totally robotic.
The design was modular showing very definite amoured sections connected to an underlying robotic chasis.
I've seen the RoboCop suit in real life and can confirm that it still relies heavily on a decent actor moving a certain way and sound effects. The moment that happens though, it's very convincing.
I'm sure that the new film will do wonders with sound effects and may even show elements of the body in isolation but there is no getting way from the fact that it
looks very much like the types of suit we are used to seeing characters wear in films like GI Joe or games like Crysis.
Quote from: James Stacey on 10 October, 2012, 01:32:59 PM
(http://www.blogto.com/upload/2012/10/2012109-robocop1.jpg)
More shots here. http://www.blogto.com/film/2012/10/photos_of_the_new_robocop_being_filmed_in_toronto/
Yeah looks too much like a man in a suit and not enough like a robot.
Maybe they should call it maninsuitocop
Looks more like something out of the Metal Gear Solid.
I'm not impressed at all. It does look like a man in a suit. I don't know how much will be CGI-ied and if the end result will be better than what we see, but from first impressions it does not bode well at all. And what the hell is up with his hands? Is that how he's meant to look? He looks like a fu*king joke! :-X
You know looking at that pic again it seems the crowd around him don't look all that impressed either, maybe not even aware that he's there.
I like it, and looking forward to seeing it all in context..
Remember that other movie we saw stills off of a while ago? That one turned out okay.. ;)
Judging on what I read about the director having most of his ideas turned down by the studio, I have a feeling this gonna end up being pretty mediocre.
Robo-Cop gets his Lawmaster Robo-Bike:
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http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=68650
Interesting design. Kind of.. creaturish*. Which probably is appropriate considering they way they've gone with the redesign of Robocop. (I still prefer the previous look.)
*Yep a new word.
That's.. Interesting.. I kinda like it.. Though it's safe to say it's got an action figure safe riding position.
So I am guessing this isn't going to be ultra-violent like the original?
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Well, this is sure to come as disappointing news to fans who were looking forward to seeing Jose Padhila's take on RoboCop next summer. Neil Blomkamp's Elysium (which was originally set to be released on March 1st, 2013) is now taking its August 9th, 2013 release date, pushing back Jose Padilha's remake to February 7th, 2014. There's currently no word on WHY Sony Pictures made this decision, although one option is that they may convert it to 3D. Another is that those rumours about problems with the production were in fact correct!
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=68739#3m3YbeGLWsiTSOh3.99
I would feel a lot better if they just scrapped the hole thing all togeather.
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I like the gun but lament the loss of the leg holster.
That sidearm says mid-Eighties Carlos Ezquerra to me. I like how they've given his otherwise boringly ergonomic costume a wee arseflap, like the kind Laurel and Hardy's long johns used to have. Baby food has to come out somewhere.
So, new Robo's got a hilarious rubber bum and a cute picture of a Gremlin's face on his back, has he? And I can't believe I've logged onto the Internet and seen a picture of a fat man wiping Robocop's arse. Gun looks dodgily like Strontium Dog's and he's riding a Lawmaster. If this is pg13 and goes massive, peppering the shops with Robo Action Figures, I will be somewhat amused.
SBT
http://www.bootlegactionfigures.com/robertcop.htm (http://www.bootlegactionfigures.com/robertcop.htm)
The human hand I can almost understand. If OCP were making Robocop, they'd want that, so when he's going out kissing babies and such, it makes him slightly more human.
When I first saw the back of his costume, I thought it looked ok, then I realized he has all those fabric rubbery things in between his armour, just like Batman has in the Nolan films*, and they really make it look like a man in a suit!
*They worked well in those!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz5FO4TQt1E
Quote from: SmallBlueThing on 19 October, 2012, 06:54:36 PM
So, new Robo's got a hilarious rubber bum and a cute picture of a Gremlin's face on his back, has he? And I can't believe I've logged onto the Internet and seen a picture of a fat man wiping Robocop's arse.
I'm so happy I logged onto the internet to read this :lol:! Thank you so much :D!
They've just re-used the crappo-costumes from GI Joe: Rise of Cobra.
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Boy am I glad I don't like the original.
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They even copied the pink hand from this one:
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Detroit, your RoboCop statue is nearly there...
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nice
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I don't like the kid sidekick.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 13 May, 2013, 09:23:40 PM
Detroit, your RoboCop statue is nearly there...
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:D
TRAILER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INmtQXUXez8)
"Dead or alive, you're coming with me" BOOM!
That sleek ED-209. Sam Jackson. Gary Oldman (at least that's who I thought I saw). Looking good.....but, not liking that flip down visor, takes away some of the mystery. It seems like we'll get a lengthy backstory, and more emotional reunion with his family, which isn't a bad thing. I won't get too excited though, best watch it first then make up my mind.
Thanks for posting the trailer, Joe. :-)
I'd buy that for a dollar
MAX!
They really over-milk the delivery of the "dead or alive" line for my money, it looks like a superhero trailer complete with shots from Iron Man and Dark Knight, and he has human emotions from the off with his OH NOE I AM A ROBITT schtick that seems to render the central premise redundant so I imagine they're taking it in another direction entirely. A bit light on explosions for my taste, and there doesn't seem to be a single standout dramatic or action setpiece in the whole trailer, it's just noisy, so I imagine this is an early cut and all the good stuff comes in the later trailers.
I liked Robocop 2, 3, The Series, and thought Alpha Commando was a hoot, so while I accept this probably won't be as good as the original, it'll take a lot to actually disappoint me - I mean Robo will have to look straight into the camera and deny the holocaust or something.
From the trailer, at least, the impression is given that it makes the original look like a masterclass in subtlety.
Quote from: Professor James T Bear on 06 September, 2013, 02:23:38 AM
while I accept this probably won't be as good as the original, it'll take a lot to actually disappoint me - I mean Robo will have to look straight into the camera and deny the holocaust or something.
If the
Daily Mail found an old podcast where he and Lewis left sexually explicit messages on someone's answerphone machine you'd be dipping your switch in paraffin and chanting outside the windmill just like everybody else. The free will thing seems superficially quite interesting, but the way they've thrown two actors from Batman films, Nick Fury, and that guy with the mask from The Watch Man at the screen gives me the fear.
I like the first one's Frankenstein's monster feel, so I'm not sure about the Iron man vibes I get from this. Doesn't look that good based on the trailer, but then neither did DREDD ;)
But based on the trailer. I like Joel and Samuel as actors, and I'm sure they'll do fine in this. But the rest of it looks a bit to shiny, fast and cgi.
And also. They talk about him being paralysed, shouldn't they be able to fix that since they're apperantly can put his head inside a robotic body? Like making him an exo skeleton. Which when I think of it could have been more interesting, since he's still Murphy. Making the robocop body like a wheel chair for him. Something he doesn't wan't to be seen as/for, but can't live without.
This has probably been brought up already.
Steel trailer (http://youtu.be/qP8d6W2lThM)
And with a 2014 release, wonder if it'll clash with the upcomming Deus Ex Human Revolution film adaption?
Transformer in less violent, kid-friendly? Feelings like the latest of Total Recall.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2013, 12:32:19 AM
TRAILER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INmtQXUXez8)
Haha saw this comment in the YouTube link;
Robocop vs Dredd. I wonder how it is going to be.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2013, 12:32:19 AM
TRAILER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INmtQXUXez8)
Waitwaitwait! 0:27 Is that the original Robocop design? :o
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 06 September, 2013, 11:10:50 AM
Waitwaitwait! 0:27 Is that the original Robocop design? :o
Yep
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Don't listen to the Goat Monster, it's similar but not the original design in that still.
Ooh, looks a bit crap, doesn't it?
Seems to be some very heavy-handed metaphor about drone strikes. At least they're aiming to be at least a bit subversive, which is good I suppose.
I'd like to keep an open mind - and I suppose it could turn out great, but the much publicised script and production problems don't give me much confidence (and before anyone brings up Dredd, the Dredd script was solid and locked down long before they started filming).
Am I the only one who thinks this looks good! I'm a huge fan of the Verhoeven one, and hated the idea of a remake as soon as I heard about it. But watching the trailer, I found myself looking forward to it! Sure I wish it was going to be R rated, and I think the film will suffer because it's not, but I'm holding out hope that it's good. Also all the designs for the costume seen in the trailer are closer to the original than I expected even the black one (okay that bit I didn't like) looked bulkier than it did in the still we saw earlier in the year.
Also is it just me or does the trailer make it look like the car bomb is set up by Keaton?
I don't hate it from what I have seen so far but as you say, toning the violence and such down for a younger audience is going to tricky and the fact that the original was so good is also a problem. That said, many of the kids who go to the cinema nowadays have probably never seen the original. It showed some interesting ideas in the trailer - like identifying suspects from scanning the crowd so I would be interested in what other stuff they added. Not sure about him being so 'human' though and the main plot about breaking his coding reminded me of R2 when they filled him up with all those silly extra rules that he had to break through.
One for the DVD rental rather than the cinema.
I think I'll watch it before I pass judgement on it ;)
Large helmets and crap Lawmasters spring to mind ::)
P.S. And I know the web is here to say these things. As news has leaked about the storyline, answers to questions about things like, 'he has a human hand still' have been given!
I watched the trailer for this film this morning and I can't say I was excited. It looks like it will be another case of Total Recall - we'll get the three boobs but we'll lose the depth. Robocop is an amazing movie with amazing subtleties and nuances beyond a cyborg shooting people. The remake looks like it's just going to rehash old cliché sci-fi tropes. In a way it is a good thing that awful remakes are made because then we can better appreciate the original and what made it good in the first place.
That being said, I'll give it a chance but my expectations are quite low (just like they were with Total Recall and that film still managed to disappoint - gah, it was awful).
Nothing too exciting to see there and it just makes me wonder why they've let him keep one exposed hand. Looks a bit odd to me and surely leaves a weak spot if the rest of him is covered in metal. I hope it isn't so they can allow him to "tenderly" stroke his wife's face, thereby bringing back some humanity to him or some cobblers like that.
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:lol: you're a baaad man, Goaty!
:lol: he librarian just told me to hush. I blame you for the fit of hysterics I can no longer control, mr Goaty.
HaHa!
It's been a while since I last saw it but in the original wasn't there a bit where one of the Doctors said they could save an arm but the OCP person said nah, cut it off!
Yes there was!
To me, it looks like what it is: a typical modern-day rethinking of a ballsy 1980s action flick. I imagine it'll do well and be OK, but I'm not expecting much. Mind you, that trailer was handy—I've seen the entire movie in two minutes and don't have to spent 15 quid in the cinema now.
Quote from: IndigoPrime on 06 September, 2013, 03:06:10 PM
To me, it looks like what it is: a typical modern-day rethinking of a ballsy 1980s action flick. I imagine it'll do well and be OK, but I'm not expecting much. Mind you, that trailer was handy—I've seen the entire movie in two minutes and don't have to spent 15 quid in the cinema now.
15 Quid?!? Has it really been that long since I last went to the cinema?!?
£15 :o :o :o :o I paid less than a tenner for my last trip
Presumably he's taking a date? That or maxing out on the pepsi, popcorn and nachos!
Hahahaha Goaty!
Also, all this talk of 'subtlety' in the original is guff. Don't get me wrong, I love the film, and all the sly jabs and social commentary, but it wasn't subtle about it, that was part of it's charm. When can you ever say 'damn, just look at all that subtlety' about a Verhoeven film! :p
Oh phew, it's not just me. Last time I went to the cinema (which admittedly was years ago) it cost £7 and I think that that is excessive.
I thought it was maybe one of these new fangled 3D movie showings you kids all enjoy so much.
Our local is about a tenner a ticket, but then there's a booking fee and the car park fee, and if you buy anything at all, including a bottle of water, it all adds up. If the wife and I both see a film, the absolute minimum spend is 25 quid.
Quote from: willthemightyW on 06 September, 2013, 03:48:53 PM
Hahahaha Goaty!
Also, all this talk of 'subtlety' in the original is guff. Don't get me wrong, I love the film, and all the sly jabs and social commentary, but it wasn't subtle about it, that was part of it's charm. When can you ever say 'damn, just look at all that subtlety' about a Verhoeven film! :p
The lack of subtlety comes with the violence and action in the film. Personally I wouldn't say because a film lacked subtlety in one aspect it lacked it throughout. Most of the social commentary and satire is secondary and tertiary to the main plot and serves to support the story by creating a believable and textured world. The main plot, after all, isn't about social commentary itself - it's a violent revenge flick about a dead cop killing the people who murdered him. If the film lacked subtleties that's all the film would be and that just isn't the case.
To a lesser extent I think that Total Recall has subtlety too. I think it was those aspects that sit in the background of the film that were very much left out of the remake is what made the remake fail for me as film.
One thing that bothered me about the trailer, as he burned 80% from car bomb, sorry it don't got subtitles so I guess it out... and with new cyborg, he got... eyebrows???
Well that leaves 20% okay and apart from the instant reaction of moving your head away and arms to a defensive position, you are okay with him being a Cyborg. In fact why isn't he called CyboCop ;)
Cyber-Community-Support-Officer
CyboLoliPopMan
Goaty you devil you! :lol:
That looks rather Robocrap.
RoboCat
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It doesn't really look crap, though. At worst, it looks a bit bland, but you all know you're going to watch it anyway.
Quote from: willthemightyW on 06 September, 2013, 03:48:53 PM
Also, all this talk of 'subtlety' in the original is guff. Don't get me wrong, I love the film, and all the sly jabs and social commentary, but it wasn't subtle about it, that was part of it's charm. When can you ever say 'damn, just look at all that subtlety' about a Verhoeven film! :p
Not guff at all, on the contrary, the personal aspects of his character and that one, simple scene of him wandering around the house while physiologically responding to memories of his wife - which looks like it's been made explicitly
'the story' in the new one - were a tender and subtle contrast to the harsher aspects. It's the central scene in the film.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 06 September, 2013, 07:31:12 PM
Not guff at all, on the contrary, the personal aspects of his character and that one, simple scene of him wandering around the house while physiologically responding to memories of his wife - which looks like it's been made explicitly 'the story' in the new one - were a tender and subtle contrast to the harsher aspects. It's the central scene in the film.
I agree about your comment on the remake - I have certainly been given the impression that they'll emphasise that aspect. Unfortunately I think the original will still do a better job in that respect where RoboCop didn't scream "WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO ME?!?" and have that silly visor thing. In the original having the face obscured throughout gave a real sense of a man turned into machine - alongside the behaviour which is more robotesque. So when he finally took his helmet off and we see his face again it becomes more symbolic of the man emerging from the machine once more.
Plus the original had the really subtle sex scene.
I have certainly been given the impression that they'll emphasise that aspect.
I certainly agree with you in that respect! Also very disappointed it's a car bombing!
I'm more curious to see how it does at the Box Office compared to Dredd, particularly in light of all the string of larger budget casualties this summer.
No doubt RoboCop will have a ginormous amount of marketing to capitalise on the brand. I'm more interested in seeing how Riddick performs since another sci-fi film with a similar budget was released this time last year.
I am try to remember what sci-fi film with a similar budget released this time last year...
Quote from: Goaty on 06 September, 2013, 11:40:24 PM
I am try to remember what sci-fi film with a similar budget released this time last year...
Looper.
The trailer made it seem like the movie was going to look more into Murphys family life and deal more with him being human and trying to fight the robotic side rather than being robotic and trying to find his human side. Do not want. :-[
Quote from: sauchie on 06 September, 2013, 06:24:38 PM
It doesn't really look crap, though. At worst, it looks a bit bland, but you all know you're going to watch it anyway.
Depends on reviews and word of mouth. I certainly avoid films that I hear bad things about, no matter how shiny the special effects look. Never seen any of the Transformers, AvP, Resident Evil or Underworld movies or the Total Recall remake, and never will. Life's too short.
Quote from: radiator on 08 September, 2013, 12:17:35 AM
Quote from: sauchie on 06 September, 2013, 06:24:38 PM
It doesn't really look crap, though. At worst, it looks a bit bland, but you all know you're going to watch it anyway.
Depends on reviews and word of mouth. I certainly avoid films that I hear bad things about, no matter how shiny the special effects look. Never seen any of the Transformers, AvP, Resident Evil or Underworld movies or the Total Recall remake, and never will. Life's too short.
You watched Man of Steel (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php/topic,33967.msg768223.html#msg768223), mate. It was 57% on Rotten Tomatoes (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/superman_man_of_steel/) at the time, and I expect the
Robocop reboot will receive a similarly equivocal reception from critics and from our peers. I doubt
Robocop will be the film everyone's talking about, though, or the film which people who don't normally go to the pictures go to see - as Superman was this Summer - so it probably won't have the same unconscious draw.
Man of Steel actually got some pretty good reviews from sources I (no longer) respect.
Quote from: sauchie on 08 September, 2013, 08:33:29 AMI doubt Robocop will be the film everyone's talking about, though, or the film which people who don't normally go to the pictures go to see - as Superman was this Summer - so it probably won't have the same unconscious draw.
What it will have, though, is being released on 7th of February- the official month when nothing else is going on.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 08 September, 2013, 11:40:31 AM
Quote from: sauchie on 08 September, 2013, 08:33:29 AMI doubt Robocop will be the film everyone's talking about, though, or the film which people who don't normally go to the pictures go to see - as Superman was this Summer - so it probably won't have the same unconscious draw.
What it will have, though, is being released on 7th of February- the official month when nothing else is going on.
And it also comes after the period Red Letter Media have dubbed "Fuck You, It's January", when you get movies like:
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New RoboCop poster...
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I wonder where his right hand is?!! ;D
Quote from: JudgeE1M1RT on 07 September, 2013, 12:24:58 AMDo not want. :-[
Me neither. It looks completely unappealing and generic to me. Especially the lead and how he's handling the situation. Seems to be missing much of what made the original special, and doesn't look very good as an original sci-fi action thriller in general. I don't plan on watching this one.
I haven't got high hopes either. The original one looked just how it was meant to look - a machine made using the last scraps of a man's mutilated body. This new guy looks like a man in a shiny robot suit.
Like many remakes, it seems an utterly unnecessary exercise; other than the fact that it's going to squeeze as much money out of a recognised franchise as possible.
The original Robocop movie is pure gold, this remake however looks like a complete turd!
Cheers
I actually think the suit looks a lot better than I originally thought when seeing those clips from the set some while back. The silver look wasn't far off the (excellent) original.
While I doubt anyone is really making this film for art's sake I see no reason why it shouldn't be an enjoyable action film.
As others have said, I think the suit looks much better in action than I'd have expected from the set photos.
I've just noticed that Gary Oldman and Samuel L Jackson are in it (and is that the chap who played Rorschach too?), so that gives me a little bit of hope.
Just watched the trailer of the original though, and remembered that it's pretty much untouchable. Even the 80's power-synth title tune gives me shivers.
I feel the exact opposite of hope when I see the big name stars that are in it. Mostly that would be due to the practice of bunging in a big star to your movie to draw the crowds cause your script is monkey poop. Look at 'Oblivion', Morgan Freeman gets 2nd credit, but is in it for what...10 mins??? I get the feeling the 'stars' will be drop in characters that don't spend much time at all in the film. I do hope I'm wrong, but I doubt the 'stars' element will save this film from being a turd.
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 18 September, 2013, 09:07:04 AM
Just watched the trailer of the original though, and remembered that it's pretty much untouchable. Even the 80's power-synth title tune gives me shivers.
I believe that's The Terminator theme in the RoboCop trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3W5HUz7vyY&t=0m48s).
RoboCop ditty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr5HG9BvsLQ).
Bloody hell, you're right. How could I have mixed them up? Amazing how one's memory chooses its own reality. Was the Terminator one used in the actual Robocop trailer or did someone just tack it on for Youtube?
The real Robocop one is just as kick-ass mind you
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 18 September, 2013, 06:31:42 PM
Bloody hell, you're right. How could I have mixed them up? Amazing how one's memory chooses its own reality. Was the Terminator one used in the actual Robocop trailer or did someone just tack it on for Youtube?
The real Robocop one is just as kick-ass mind you
That's the original trailer all right. The score probably wasn't finished or they just didn't bother using it.
"...he could stare down Judge Dredd without flinching about stealing the idea."
Read more: http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-signs-new-robocop-movie-might-be-terrible/#ixzz2fqpQ96qN
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Lol. I think this is really funny! :D
A big thanks to the creator of this awesome strip for letting me post it here!
So agree with you, Mabs, if people think it fine - give them example of Total Recall!
Quote from: Goaty on 25 September, 2013, 11:59:02 PM
So agree with you, Mabs, if people think it fine - give them example of Total Recall!
I still haven't watched the Total Recall remake yet! But judging by everyones reaction to the film it'll be a while before I do watch it. Maybe when its on Channel 5, more out of curiosity really! :-[
Quote from: Mabs on 25 September, 2013, 11:22:10 PM
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Lol. I think this is really funny! :D
A big thanks to the creator of this awesome strip for letting me post it here!
It doesn't seem long since there were cartoons about Dredd doing this to the original Robocop. In hindsight, I forgive the original Robocop everything.
Well, good news. The human hand thing, not so human, it's flesh pulled over a metallic hand, kinda like peter wellers face was in the original, pulled over a robot head essentially, with a human brain (I think)
Will
Quote from: willthemightyW on 27 September, 2013, 04:46:24 PM
like peter wellers face was in the original, pulled over a robot head essentially, with a human brain (I think)
I've seen Robocop a
lot and I never had that impression!
(Also: that hand in the new version doesn't look like skin over a robot hand... and why bother?)
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 27 September, 2013, 05:40:47 PM
(Also: that hand in the new version doesn't look like skin over a robot hand... and why bother?)
For doing handshakes.
I wonder if he's got a willy?
If he's spending lots of time with his wife it seems a bit weird. You couldn't blame her for finding another bloke if her husband is a sexless cyborg - but then it would be a bit odd if he's popping around all the time.
Strangely OCP in the original seem a bit kinder for telling Mrs Murphy her husband's dead and paying her a big wedge.
Quote from: JOE SOAP on 27 September, 2013, 07:12:55 PM
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 27 September, 2013, 05:40:47 PM
(Also: that hand in the new version doesn't look like skin over a robot hand... and why bother?)
For doing handshakes.
Arf. I've got a horrible feeling that the answer will be
to touch the face of his son and reconnect with his humanity. Or punching out the bad guy with a human fist.
Quote from: sauchie on 27 September, 2013, 07:49:23 PM
Arf. I've got a horrible feeling that the answer will be to touch the face of his son and reconnect with his humanity
I was willing to give it the benefit of the doubt but I expect a scene where he pulls on a leather-mit and plays catch in the back-yard with RoboSon.
Quote from: JamesC on 27 September, 2013, 07:21:28 PM
I wonder if he's got a willy?
If he's spending lots of time with his wife it seems a bit weird. You couldn't blame her for finding another bloke if her husband is a sexless cyborg - but then it would be a bit odd if he's popping around all the time.
Strangely OCP in the original seem a bit kinder for telling Mrs Murphy her husband's dead and paying her a big wedge.
Where going into Ghost in the Shell territory here James. :-\
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 27 September, 2013, 05:40:47 PM
Quote from: willthemightyW on 27 September, 2013, 04:46:24 PM
like peter wellers face was in the original, pulled over a robot head essentially, with a human brain (I think)
I've seen Robocop a lot and I never had that impression!
(Also: that hand in the new version doesn't look like skin over a robot hand... and why bother?)
Cheers
Jim
I never got that impression watching it either, but apparently that's what they were going for, which you can kinda see in the way his face is weirdly cut off at the sides.
Yeah it does just look like a hand, but again, I'm told that's what they were going for, and I imagine it makes him easier for the public to deal with, not that they needed to put it in though!
Will
LATEST TRAILER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPLSpmAtc1Q&feature=share) and I quite like most of it.
he looks much cooler in the blue. Not sure what the reasoning in the film will be. It doesnt look hateful though .. other than the touching human moment with his son that could have been used to have him breaking up a drug factory or shooting a rapist or something
QuoteI've seen Robocop a lot and I never had that impression!
Huh, I never had anything but that impression.
3rd Trailer... most actions is in CGI - bad feelings about that!
The only decent thing I can see in regards to this film is a number of the supporting cast.
The whole thing looks like a gamble. A director with only two movies under his belt (and some documentaries). I haven't seen his films so I can't make a judgement. A writer who appears to have never written for the big screen before this film. A lead actor who appears to have done a lot of work, but I have not seen him in anything so I don't know whether he's any good.
The trailors give me an impression of an average science fiction action film.
The thing is Robocop is a difficult legacy to live up to. They appear to be trying to do something else with the concept, but what I don't understand is why they don't just make a new film. I have this feeling already that this film will use the name Robocop to carry an otherwise poor film and make loadsa money off fans of the original.
Nevertheless, it could be good. Admitting that means nothing, I said it about the Total Recall remake. I expect the worst and hope for the best.
Quote from: pictsy on 20 November, 2013, 08:16:13 PM
The whole thing looks like a gamble. A director with only two movies under his belt (and some documentaries). I haven't seen his films so I can't make a judgement. A writer who appears to have never written for the big screen before this film. A lead actor who appears to have done a lot of work, but I have not seen him in anything so I don't know whether he's any good.
That's not too far from the 1987 stats of the original RoboCop:
Verhoeven was really only known in Europe; Ed Neumier never had a screenplay credit before RoboCop and Peter Weller was a relatively unknown TV actor. In fact it's probably less of a gamble now because RoboCop is a recognisable and fondly remembered brand in pop-culture.
I meant gamble in regards to the potential quality rather than drawing in a crowd or revenue. Plus the chances of rolling a six twice are slimmer than rolling it once. ;)
Okay, in terms of the director: only film of his I've seen was Elite Squad, and it was pretty good.
The lead: Saw him in the killing and he was good, and he got great reviews for the Scorsese produced foreign film Easy Money
Will
Yeah, I hadn't been following this at all but Elite Squad and the Bus one are both pretty good. Not Soldier of Orange good but still enough to get me interested where I wasn't before.
Elite Squad was great. This seems quite far removed however - which is a shame because some of that tone would be perfect for Robocop. Death squads and widespread corruption and crime sounds pretty apt for Detroit (and in the movie too... I'll get my coat that jokes been done to death).
I'm willing to give it a chance but I'm all ready starting to feel sorry for Jackie Earle-Haley who deserves better than being paid to dance to this music: Field Test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaXWNSpZ4dU).
Old RoboCop got remastered and steelbook...
(http://www.avforums.com/attachments/robocop-jpg.444882/)
Looks good cover, but I do prefer the original poster...
(http://www.movpins.com/big/MV5BMTk1MDUzMTQ3OV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMDAwNTk0NA/robocop-(1987)-large-cover.jpg)
Quote from: Goaty on 24 January, 2014, 08:28:05 AM
Old RoboCop got remastered and steelbook...
Good God. Does nobody in these graphic design departments even
notice that the internet is
full of articles mocking these bloody clichés? Or do they just think "Limited colour palette; hero stands alone; orange embers swirling across... yep, the movie industry
needs another one of those" ...?
Cheers
Jim
Quote from: Jim_Campbell on 24 January, 2014, 08:44:34 AM
Quote from: Goaty on 24 January, 2014, 08:28:05 AM
Old RoboCop got remastered and steelbook...
Good God. Does nobody in these graphic design departments even notice that the internet is full of articles mocking these bloody clichés? Or do they just think "Limited colour palette; hero stands alone; orange embers swirling across... yep, the movie industry needs another one of those" ...?
Cheers
Jim
He also looks like a giant.
I have this preordered but agree that they should have gone with that iconic original poster art.
Yeah, we have already discussed this on another thread where recent repackaging is nowhere near as good as the original posters/artwork.
Nice that they went with such a dynamic pose for him too. ::)
Love the pew pew pew pew sounds in this clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfS1ANhIXhQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfS1ANhIXhQ)
Looks like the film could end up as quite okay. And if nothing else Jose Padilha could end up doing more films in the dream factory. Where I think he could do wonders.
Quote from: Recrewt on 24 January, 2014, 10:28:58 AM
Nice that they went with such a dynamic pose for him too. ::)
No doubt taking their cue from the oddly inert pose and the bland, lumpen design showcased in the posters for the new film. I saw this on the side of a bus shelter during the week, and thought it was so nondescript it could have been advertising broadband or dishwasher tablets. It's not
terrible, it's just indifferent:
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRTTW-r8dGBbjc_J59fhkH-7GEBp0EYw_9bh14zWUdkS0IlZyJsmA)
Empire: 2 of 5.
Total Film: 4 of 5.
SFX gave it a 4/5 also. Might be worth the time, might not be. I'm going in with an open mind.
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRTTW-r8dGBbjc_J59fhkH-7GEBp0EYw_9bh14zWUdkS0IlZyJsmA)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kNC2zLQ2Uxk/TVVFmzUd_rI/AAAAAAAACLA/u8mHOpp2oJI/s1600/P6%2BR4%2B1681.jpg)
Maybe but one thing on my mind...
ROBOCOP GOT HUMAN HAND!
@Pete Wells: Oh those copycat-ing bastards!
@Goaty: Yep, the hand does grate, I've read a few reviews and they say that the hand is a big distraction. I mean why go with it in the first place? To humanise him? He's already got his face to show that. ::)
Quote from: Mabs on 05 February, 2014, 09:06:55 PM
@Pete Wells: Oh those copycat-ing bastards!
@Goaty: Yep, the hand does grate, I've read a few reviews and they say that the hand is a big distraction. I mean why go with it in the first place? To humanise him? He's already got his face to show that. ::)
A nod to the original perhaps.
Will watch it this Saturday. Had a hard time not buying a ticket after watching this interview. Watching it if only to support his work. Would really want to watch his upcoming documentary about missing people in Rio! (If you haven't, then watch his Bus 174. Awesome docu, better than most thrillers!)
http://youtu.be/qxjgAGaOuLI
I like alot of the ideas José (the director) are throwing around, but I'm being careful not believing all of it made it into his film.
Quote from: Apestrife on 05 February, 2014, 09:23:21 PM
A nod to the original perhaps.
But if I remember correctly, didn't they say "lose the arm", i.e, the good arm? For me, far from being a nod, its a two fingered gesture to the original film!
QuoteI like alot of the ideas José (the director) are throwing around, but I'm being careful not believing all of it made it into his film.
I agree.
Also, quite a contrast in reviews from Empire and Total Film, esp. when the latter is more or less a sister mag to the former....well sort of.
Quote from: Mabs on 05 February, 2014, 09:34:03 PM
Quote from: Apestrife on 05 February, 2014, 09:23:21 PM
A nod to the original perhaps.
But if I remember correctly, didn't they say "lose the arm", i.e, the good arm? For me, far from being a nod, its a two fingered gesture to the original film!
QuoteI like alot of the ideas José (the director) are throwing around, but I'm being careful not believing all of it made it into his film.
I agree.
Also, quite a contrast in reviews from Empire and Total Film, esp. when the latter is more or less a sister mag to the former....well sort of.
In what way? They're keen rivals if anything and are published by different companies.
I'm not going to go out of my way to see this, but if I find myself at a loose end or some mates want to go I might give it a chance.
Quote from: radiator on 05 February, 2014, 09:39:46 PM
Quote from: Mabs on 05 February, 2014, 09:34:03 PM
Quote from: Apestrife on 05 February, 2014, 09:23:21 PM
A nod to the original perhaps.
But if I remember correctly, didn't they say "lose the arm", i.e, the good arm? For me, far from being a nod, its a two fingered gesture to the original film!
QuoteI like alot of the ideas José (the director) are throwing around, but I'm being careful not believing all of it made it into his film.
I agree.
Also, quite a contrast in reviews from Empire and Total Film, esp. when the latter is more or less a sister mag to the former....well sort of.
In what way? They're keen rivals if anything and are published by different companies.
I'm not going to go out of my way to see this, but if I find myself at a loose end or some mates want to go I might give it a chance.
Really? I swear when I was reading Empire a while back, they'd advertise Total Film in their pages. It would seem a bit odd to do that if they're from different publishers/ are rivals as you say.
Quote from: Mabs on 05 February, 2014, 09:34:03 PM
Quote from: Apestrife on 05 February, 2014, 09:23:21 PM
A nod to the original perhaps.
But if I remember correctly, didn't they say "lose the arm", i.e, the good arm? For me, far from being a nod, its a two fingered gesture to the original film!
QuoteI like alot of the ideas José (the director) are throwing around, but I'm being careful not believing all of it made it into his film.
I agree.
Also, quite a contrast in reviews from Empire and Total Film, esp. when the latter is more or less a sister mag to the former....well sort of.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking of, that they removed it in the original (but in this one they don't). Two fingered gesture? The way brittish people uses two fingers instead of the middle f-u finger?
I think they choose to leave his hand attached as a way of giving him something human to hold on to. But yeah, it looks a bit strange considering it couldn't function nearly as well as his robotic one (if it's not a synthetic one that is.)
Quote from: Apestrife on 05 February, 2014, 09:47:41 PM
Yeah, that's what I was thinking of, that they removed it in the original (but in this one they don't). Two fingered gesture? The way brittish people uses two fingers instead of the middle f-u finger?
I think they choose to leave his hand attached as a way of giving him something human to hold on to. But yeah, it looks a bit strange considering it couldn't function nearly as well as his robotic one (if it's not a synthetic one that is.)
I don't know if us British have a preference for one over the other! I think we're quite a tolerant bunch! :lol:
@Radiator: you're right, they do have different publishers. Quite odd to see Empire advertise a rival on their pages....
Sorry for bump this;
(http://i.imgur.com/azyMtFJ.gif)
I was wondering if we would ever see that again! :lol:
Quote from: Hawkmonger on 05 February, 2014, 10:03:08 PM
I was wondering if we would ever see that again! :lol:
LOL! Goaty is a Legend!
"Lose the arm " or "Give the man a hand!"
Claudia, Danny and Peter were not particularly kind to it on Film 2014.
"Spectacularly failed to get the point of the original".
As an aside, I really like the set up for Film 20xx these days. Winkleman actually seems to have found a programme that fits her easy unstructured presenting style and I love that the Danny chaps loves movies about people chopping each other up in a way that Barry Norman would have hated.
Quote"Spectacularly failed to get the point of the original".
Should it try to though? I mean, a cyborg cop is hardly weighty subject matter - surely the remake
should do something different with it?
People like to intellectualise Robocop*, but in reality it's a schlocky B-movie first and foremost - the satire and all that is just there to give a little bit of substance.
*See also 'Dawn of the Dead is a satire of consumerism' - no it's not, it's a zombie movie - even Romero says the satirical elements were an afterthought.
Quote from: radiator on 06 February, 2014, 01:13:27 PM
Quote"Spectacularly failed to get the point of the original".
Should it try to though? I mean, a cyborg cop is hardly weighty subject matter - surely the remake should do something different with it?
People like to intellectualise Robocop*, but in reality it's a schlocky B-movie first and foremost - the satire and all that is just there to give a little bit of substance.
*See also 'Dawn of the Dead is a satire of consumerism' - no it's not, it's a zombie movie - even Romero says the satirical elements were an afterthought.
This is exactly what I thought.
Apparently they left him with a human hand to avoid any legal issues regarding a criminal being shot by a 'robot'. That's what I heard anyhoo.
I won't be seeing this at the cinema but I'll watch it at home. Probably. I never watched the Total Recall remake though. Not interested.
It's hard to see the point in remaking a good film. But I suppose it's been done successfully in the past - Scarface and Cape Fear spring to mind - so I'll keep an open mind.
The skinhand does grate though, as does the fact that he looks much more like a man in a metal suit than the original did.
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 06 February, 2014, 03:05:53 PM
It's hard to see the point in remaking a good film. But I suppose it's been done successfully in the past - Scarface and Cape Fear spring to mind - so I'll keep an open mind.
The Thing and The Fly also come to mind. But for whatever reason, those films (and the ones you mentioned) seemed more personal, less cold heartless "Hollywood".
That said, I'm still going to give this new Robocop a chance (despite my utter contempt for the HAND).
I would be up for more The Thing style remakes. Taking old, old SF movies that couldn't do a concept justice and making them freakily horrific (though the Thing was panned at release from what I gather) or whatever suits.
Not straight remaking with CGI where understatement was fine, as seen with Day The Earth Stood Bored by Keanu Reeves. Or yet-another-invasion-of-the-body-snatchers (you can't beat Donald Sutherland, give it up).
Shouldn't just remake the movies of the 70s and 80s. Be more adventurous! I'd love a new THEM!
That is problem with many latest Hollywood films always got fights include CGI...
CGI is a useful tool. It'd be insane not to use it.
But a mix of CGI and physical effects is the best.
Quote from: Theblazeuk on 06 February, 2014, 05:19:17 PM
I would be up for more The Thing style remakes. Taking old, old SF movies that couldn't do a concept justice and making them freakily horrific (though the Thing was panned at release from what I gather) or whatever suits.
Not straight remaking with CGI where understatement was fine, as seen with Day The Earth Stood Bored by Keanu Reeves. Or yet-another-invasion-of-the-body-snatchers (you can't beat Donald Sutherland, give it up).
Shouldn't just remake the movies of the 70s and 80s. Be more adventurous! I'd love a new THEM!
It'd be a brave studio to take on a serious Creature Feature remake. It's a genre that's been mocked so much that it take a fantastic product and a marketing genius to have an audience take it seriously.
A genre I'd like to see revisited, with the budget and talent to do it justice, is Sindbad/Arabian Nights films.
The stuff they could do these days with genies and magic carpets would be wonderful. There's loads of scope in terms of tone as well - light comedic adventure and dark creepy mystery both work equally well.
Saw the new Robocop today. Loved it. Just as good as the original I reckon.
Would you say it is suitable for a 7 year old who is used to 12A movies James? I'm contemplating taking my son. He has seen Avengers Assemble and loved that but he would've been a bit of a wreck watching Batman.
Quote from: golledge100 on 08 February, 2014, 09:14:45 PM
Would you say it is suitable for a 7 year old who is used to 12A movies James? I'm contemplating taking my son. He has seen Avengers Assemble and loved that but he would've been a bit of a wreck watching Batman.
It's quite talky and a bit heavy in places - I'd imagine a 7 year old may get a little bored.
In terms of violence, it's not really graphic or gory but it's still rather shocking at times.
Quote from: golledge100 on 08 February, 2014, 09:14:45 PM
Would you say it is suitable for a 7 year old who is used to 12A movies James? I'm contemplating taking my son. He has seen Avengers Assemble and loved that but he would've been a bit of a wreck watching Batman.
There are some stuff in it that could be bit heavy for a 7 year old. Showing Alex's lounges (with him breathing heavily, which adds quite a bit) and brain (at one time shown while undergoing surgery).
Not as gory as the original, but still icky in it's own way.
And while I'm at it, might I add that I quite liked it. A solid 3/5. Cool that it managed to things by itself, without repeating too much plot, onliners and what not. It dropped some serious steam towards the end, but picked it up almost immediately afterwards Robocop & c/o became heroes again, especially the very last scene. Can't say the pg 13 stopped it from being a good action movie.
It was alright, felt it lacked a bit of heart, whilst also (ironically) trying to give it all a bit too much heart. I'll just say I liked it, nowhere near as much as the original, but it was good. Didn't have as much of a sense as fun as it needed (the partnership of murphy and louis-played by the guy from the wire- was really good) and robocop looked hilariously dumb when he was running imo. The is a really, reaaally cool visual in it where [spoiler]murphy is hooked up to a frame, and its just his face, his lungs in some weird kind of plastic tupperware thing, and his disembodied hand linked to his brain, he just looks like floating body parts and it was very impressive and actually kinda horrific[/spoiler] so really good job on that.
Also Michael Keaton was great.
Will
Quote from: Apestrife on 08 February, 2014, 10:29:08 PM
Quote from: golledge100 on 08 February, 2014, 09:14:45 PM
There are some stuff in it that could be bit heavy for a 7 year old. Showing Alex's lounges (with him breathing heavily, which adds quite a bit) and brain (at one time shown while undergoing surgery).
Ugh - really? That's turned me off the movie completely. Call it a quirk, but I'd be happier watching the OTT violence of the original over seeing that.
HdE: Yeah, I also find the splatter in the original easier to watch hehe.
It can be said that there's nothing cruel about scenes, not like the Robocop 2's making of a cyborg or elysium's scene where Matt Damon gets a exoskeleton grafted to his body (really disliked that one.). The scene with his innards in jars even benefits from it being shown since you really get an idea what goes on inside Murphy's head. And "brain surgery" is them plucking away from it. But they're still scenes that made people go "oh". If you seriously don't like organs on display then the film could be a bit testing.
We were talking about old Sci Fi novels on the What're you reading thread. The Frederick Pohl novel Man Plus really gets into the guts (pun intended) of creating a cyborg. :-[
Well, that's it for me, then! I'm officially consigning the remake to the list of films I'm never going anywhere near. It may well be a decent little movie in its own right, but it doesn't sound like my idea of a good time.
Silver lining: I feel a bit more inclined to buy the remastered edition of the first movie now!
Quote from: HdE on 09 February, 2014, 10:43:28 PM
Well, that's it for me, then! I'm officially consigning the remake to the list of films I'm never going anywhere near. It may well be a decent little movie in its own right, but it doesn't sound like my idea of a good time.
Silver lining: I feel a bit more inclined to buy the remastered edition of the first movie now!
been considering the new rmaster too. looks fine. love clunky feel everything has. and also the ending, one the rmake doesnt come close!
Quote from: ZenArcade on 09 February, 2014, 09:31:41 PM
We were talking about old Sci Fi novels on the What're you reading thread. The Frederick Pohl novel Man Plus really gets into the guts (pun intended) of creating a cyborg. :-[
looked it up. sounds icky. had nightmares about such stuff as a kid. a strong hate/fear towards cyborgs and aliens. still gets me a bit when some people i know willingly wants to become cyborgs.
Damn good read, the follow up novel wasn't really up to the first but had some really good ideas on space elevators ( or a space fountain in this instance).
The worst thing about this movie is that it will probably make more money then Dredd and get sequels.
:(
Watched Robocop (2014) tonight.
Word's fail me to express just how bad it was. Suffice to say that it took everything that made the Verhoeven film so successful and junked it and added tedious and cliched domestic scenes of Murphy/ Wife/Kid and more 'crying' scenes.
Awful! :o
I've been away for a while but, been doing movie news and chat Podcasts, heres a little link for ya. Me and my mate Mikes review of the Robocop remake. Got a mo, Ava Look
https://idiscyple.squarespace.com/reviews/2014/2/19/vp7rfh2xddrqf00309wytdx9oni8am
I watched it today. Quite enjoyed it if a bit empty and nonsensical.
EmoCop (2014), I could do without it.
It lacked everything that make the original a great movie & brought nothing new to the table.