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Title: Pageturners (CW: contains Pat Mills)
Post by: nxylas on 21 November, 2022, 08:44:16 PM
I know any mention of Uncle Pat's name here tends to provoke a flame war, but I am looking forward to his next book, Pageturners: Comics and the Craft of Writing, a revised and expanded version of his blog posts on the subject. However uncomfortable you may be at his flirtations with antisemites and Putin tankies, there's no denying that he has a wealth of knowledge regarding comic writing and the comics industry. I'm sure there will be plenty of valuable insights here.
Title: Re: Pageturners (CW: contains Pat Mills)
Post by: Richard on 21 November, 2022, 09:38:59 PM
Link to the introduction: https://open.substack.com/pub/iconoblast/p/pageturners-introduction?r=1m2fjk&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
Title: Re: Pageturners (CW: contains Pat Mills)
Post by: Funt Solo on 21 November, 2022, 10:46:57 PM
Quote from: nxylas on 21 November, 2022, 08:44:16 PM
I know any mention of Uncle Pat's name here tends to provoke a flame war...

Does it, though?

As you say, it would be interesting to hear about the craft from someone so well versed in it.
Title: Re: Pageturners (CW: contains Pat Mills)
Post by: Jim_Campbell on 21 November, 2022, 10:49:01 PM
Quote from: Funt Solo on 21 November, 2022, 10:46:57 PM
Does it, though?

DOESN'T IT?!

[spoiler];-)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Pageturners (CW: contains Pat Mills)
Post by: Funt Solo on 22 November, 2022, 03:50:36 AM
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Title: Re: Pageturners (CW: contains Pat Mills)
Post by: Dash Decent on 23 November, 2022, 03:36:28 AM
Quote from: Funt Solo on 21 November, 2022, 10:46:57 PM
As you say, it would be interesting to hear about the craft from someone so well versed in it.

You can take that statement two ways.

Flame on!
Title: Re: Pageturners (CW: contains Pat Mills)
Post by: GordonR on 24 November, 2022, 08:59:41 PM
Any chance the new book will give us the lowdown on his short-lived foray into the fascinating world of NFT chump-scamming?
Title: Re: Pageturners (CW: contains Pat Mills)
Post by: The Monarch on 24 November, 2022, 10:18:28 PM
short lived? so he stopped? (i kinda stopped following his twitter it got depressing)
Title: Re: Pageturners (CW: contains Pat Mills)
Post by: GordonR on 24 November, 2022, 11:29:13 PM
Quote from: The Monarch on 24 November, 2022, 10:18:28 PM
short lived? so he stopped? (i kinda stopped following his twitter it got depressing)

They've apparently been quietly removed from sale. I've been told by someone who kept watch that  he didn't sell a single one.

So that was well worth trashing your reputation for, and needlessly picking a huge fight with your own fanbase over.
Title: Re: Pageturners (CW: contains Pat Mills)
Post by: 13school on 25 November, 2022, 03:59:52 AM
I occasionally wonder if the fact so many UK comics creators are still generating paid work right up until their final days means they love comics so much they're happy to keep on going right till the end, or that for whatever reason (I assume like all creative industries, most people don't do all that well out of it) they just can't afford to fully retire.
Title: Re: Pageturners (CW: contains Pat Mills)
Post by: davidbishop on 25 November, 2022, 07:18:13 AM
A bit of both, but mostly the latter.
Title: Re: Pageturners (CW: contains Pat Mills)
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 03 December, 2022, 08:31:13 PM
I still don't understand the whole NFT thing and genuinely don't really get why it pissed people off when Pat started peddling them - not saying the anger wasn't justified or anything, just that I didn't really know what was going on.

A part of me likes to think that Pat didn't really understand what he was doing either and was the recipient of some bad advice, but of course I'll never know if that's true.  Also, I hadn't heard anything about antisemitism / Putin flirtations - feckin ell.

He was a brilliant comics creator in his heyday anyway and I wouldn't mind reading what he has to say about his craft. Much as his angry rants get on my tits, I realise that he's a huge part of the reason 2000ad became such an institution and the reason we're all on this board.
Title: Re: Pageturners (CW: contains Pat Mills)
Post by: nxylas on 03 December, 2022, 09:49:12 PM
Quote from: JayzusB.Christ on 03 December, 2022, 08:31:13 PM
Also, I hadn't heard anything about antisemitism / Putin flirtations - feckin ell.
I don't want to overplay those, he hasn't gone full Kanye, it's just that some of his tweets etc seem to be heading in that direction.