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Title: Dead Set
Post by: deus x machina on 14 October, 2008, 10:09:38 PM
(May of already been posted but.....)


http://io9.com/5044413/first-look-at-de ... reality-tv (http://io9.com/5044413/first-look-at-dead-set-the-ultra+dark-zombie-satire-of-reality-tv)
Best clip I could find
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Mardroid on 15 October, 2008, 05:30:48 AM
Yeah it's been posted. They've started advertising it on the TV now too. I've seen it a couple of times today. I'm really looking forward to it actually.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Mikey on 16 October, 2008, 10:54:26 AM
Yeah - I think this has potential.Do I detect a zombie Davina?

Strangely enough, during the past summer's BB,I suggested to Mrs Mikey I'd love to take charge fora day and scare the living crap out of the whiney,talentless dirt that go on by locking them in and having people/things stare in the windows at them...

M.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Mardroid on 27 October, 2008, 05:21:33 PM
Quick reminder, first episode is on E4 tonight at 10. (and 11 on E4+1 obviously.) I'm rather looking forward to this.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: House of Usher on 27 October, 2008, 10:23:06 PM
End of Part 2. Good so far.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Rob Spalding on 27 October, 2008, 10:37:30 PM
Enjoying it so far.
Zombies a bit speedy, but I'll cope.

[spoiler]Loved Davina's slow slide into the water cooler[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Goaty on 27 October, 2008, 10:58:34 PM
I do enjoy it! 28 Days Later-theme... :)

and it very likely to Walking Dead, as it part of 5 episodes this week.

but i just thought, as it not like to Walking Dead or in America as they got weapons of guns everywhere there and what does office buildings in England got? thanks to Health and Safety, we are fucked in UK if zombie outbreak!
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Goaty on 27 October, 2008, 11:20:02 PM
but classic lines so far...

[spoiler]'It smells like fingering in here'[/spoiler]

[spoiler]as producer notice Davina zombie, "oh dear"[/spoiler]

[spoiler]producer and disabled wheelchair man...[/spoiler]

[spoiler]as when producer locked the door, saw Pippa(new girl from BB house)  and went "oh not YOU!"[/spoiler]

[spoiler]'Is that Davina?!'
'Sort of..'[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Tiplodocus on 27 October, 2008, 11:20:57 PM
Entertaining enough.  The lack of sympathetic characters meant it dragged a bit for me; let 'em all get eaten except Kevin Eldon I say. Some good gore for a TV show but that shaky camera is going to hack me off.

[spoiler]The slimy TV Producer pushes someone in a wheelchair at a zombie in order to save himself[/spoiler]. Funny but not exactly subtle.

I'll be tuning in again though so it must be doing something right.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Tiplodocus on 27 October, 2008, 11:22:16 PM
Use Spoilers please, Goaty.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Wils on 28 October, 2008, 12:02:46 AM
Enjoyed it, but that fast, jerky camera shit that went on every time they wanted to hide dodgy effects is *really* annoying and gave me a headache. It was like watching Street-Porter shite on BBC2 from 20 years ago.

Echoing Tips; everyone to get munched except The Actor Kevin Eldon, please.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: longmanshort on 28 October, 2008, 12:21:04 AM
Enjoyed it. And you just *know* Eldon's going to die in the most gruesomely humorous fashion possible, why else would he be included?! ;)
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Colin YNWA on 28 October, 2008, 08:26:29 AM
Only seen the first 30 minutes to date but so far...

Yeah defo enjoyed it. Fast Zombies aside, which it would seem Charlie Brooker is a big fan of and personally I think misses the point of zombie as satire BUT hey there you go; really good.

I'm wondering how well it'll hold out over another 2 1/2 hours of TV (thats' right isn't it?) as most of the TV satire is surely done by now and there is only so much more that can be done with the whole we're trapped in here and there's Zombie's everywhere thing?

That said so far so good
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: radiator on 28 October, 2008, 10:05:05 AM
I thought it was great, and I'm in for the duration. I loved the attention to detail. Genuinely nasty with some laugh out loud moments. How often can you say that about a modern TV show? Best thing E4s ever done thats for sure.

It would seem that the 'good guys' and 'bad guys' among the survivors are already established, but I'm hoping we'll see at least one reversal of character as things escalate.

Nice quick interview with Brooker here:
//http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/a133572/charlie-brooker-dead-set.html
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Buddy on 28 October, 2008, 10:29:36 AM
Liked it.

No problem with 'fast' zombies.

[spoiler]Fire extinguisher is possibly best zombie death ever put to film.[/spoiler]

Grim and funny.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: GordonR on 28 October, 2008, 10:46:26 AM
Well, it scared the life out of my daughter at the appropriate moments, so I guess that's job done there.

And Fast Zombies much, much better than Slow Zombies.  

And anyone spot the zombie movie references through it?  I spotted - in dialogue -  Night of the Living Dead and The Living Dead at Manchester Morgue.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Satanist on 28 October, 2008, 12:13:47 PM
"They're coming to get you Barbara"  :lol: .

Loved this and hope it manages to keep the quality up for the rest of the week.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Mardroid on 28 October, 2008, 12:53:37 PM
Quote from: "Rob Spalding"Enjoying it so far.
Zombies a bit speedy, but I'll cope.
I know what you mean. I'm a fan of the slow ones, but I think these are more believable as a threat.

Quote[spoiler]Loved Davina's slow slide into the water cooler[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Heh, heh yes! I wonder if she got a bump doing that.[/spoiler]
After being psyched up to watch it, I fell asleep and woke up after it started!

It was ok though, as it was stored on E4 on demand.

[spoiler]Anyway, so far pretty good I think. Amusing how certain characters are stereotypes of others we've seen. The cynical middle aged man (who somehow comes across pretentious and hypocritical... nice change from the security guy in Hyperdrive), the effeminate gay guy who almost looks like a clone of a chap who was on the real show a while back.... the dumb pretty ("do toes have bones?") thing. (How embarrassing I'm admitting I've watched BB...)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Mardroid on 28 October, 2008, 01:05:37 PM
Quote from: "Uncle Umpty"Liked it.

No problem with 'fast' zombies.

[spoiler]Fire extinguisher is possibly best zombie death ever put to film.[/spoiler]

Grim and funny.

Yes. [spoiler]There were fragments. Yuck.[/spoiler]

The way they dealt with the gore was kinda interesting. It was there, but not as exposed as it could be. I.e. they leave it to your imagination.

[spoiler]I can imagine how the storyline will go with the pretty 'coffee girl' and boyfriend. They didn't exactly cast her in a great light what with the affair etc, but no doubt her storyline will be partly one of making amends and probably taking a heroic leadership role. (That wasn't the correct terminology, but I forget the right term. Not necessarily a bad thing. Kind of glad that pretty boy bought it though.)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: mogzilla on 28 October, 2008, 02:19:58 PM
crapola ! missed it due to a mega fable 2 sesh
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Buddy on 28 October, 2008, 04:16:09 PM
I actually missed it too but watched it online... suggest you give that a go!

Link::
http://www.channel4.com/video/brandless ... hpage_box2 (http://www.channel4.com/video/brandless-catchup.jsp?vodBrand=dead-set&intcmp=watchpage_box2)
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Gavin_Leahy_Block on 28 October, 2008, 06:58:13 PM
All good so far don't mind [spoiler]fast zombies[/spoiler] but just wondering how it will keep the pace up over the five days. Liking how there is not many sympathetic characters in it. Favorite bit, [spoiler]wheelchair zombie[/spoiler].

The end credit was a link to the end credits - //http://www.deadsetcredits.com
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: House of Usher on 28 October, 2008, 09:14:33 PM
Yeah, that's not many sympathetic characters. The newly-survivalist production assistant, the drag queen and... erm... is that it?

I had mixed feelings about seeing The Actor Kevin Eldon playing an unknown Big Brother contestant. That undercut the realism a bit. I've never seen any of the other contestant characters before, and I'd rather Kevin Eldon had been cast as someone on the poduction side. Good game all round. Looking forward to tonight's episode. Only decent thing in the schedule.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Goaty on 28 October, 2008, 10:19:05 PM
that Pippa is so annoyed, is she acting or she crap at it???
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Matt Timson on 28 October, 2008, 11:22:42 PM
Missed it and on demand doesn't cater for Macs.  How backward is that?
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 29 October, 2008, 07:50:47 AM
Quote from: "Gavin_Leahy"The end credit was a link to the end credits - //http://www.deadsetcredits.com

Gah!  They put the credits on the internet, but they're still too fast to read!
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Mardroid on 29 October, 2008, 09:58:36 AM
Quote from: "Matt Timson"Missed it and on demand doesn't cater for Macs.  How backward is that?

Do you have cable? They have the shows as part of the On-demand service there too.

I saw the second episode yesterday. Nice follow-up. I'm a bit disappointed it's only a 1/2 hour now it just didn't feel meaty enough. Still, they obviously want to spread it throughout the week with the run-up to Halloween and I guess it's better to take that option than fill the episodes with superfluous fluff.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: TheEdge on 29 October, 2008, 10:52:25 AM
Quote from: "House of Usher"Yeah, that's not many sympathetic characters. The newly-survivalist production assistant, the drag queen and... erm... is that it?

I had mixed feelings about seeing The Actor Kevin Eldon playing an unknown Big Brother contestant. That undercut the realism a bit. I've never seen any of the other contestant characters before, and I'd rather Kevin Eldon had been cast as someone on the poduction side. Good game all round. Looking forward to tonight's episode. Only decent thing in the schedule.


You dont watch enough TV, half the actors are out of CASUALTY  (main chick and her zombie lover), the hot blonde was a policewoman in THE BILL, Pippa the Scot girl was in that irvin welsh film about brides( theres a cracking scene where she gives an old bloke some viagra and has to crack him off when she finds him humping a corpse), and some of the others are regulars on 2 packs of crisps and a pint of lager.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: SamuelAWilkinson on 29 October, 2008, 08:15:53 PM
Just watched the first two via the on-demand widget (less awesome than BBC's iplayer, but nearly everything is). Fucking ACE is the first thing that comes to mind, followed by 'gor blimey' and 'yep, it's quite good'.

Without a doubt the best thing E4 have ever done.


What else has [spoiler]badass gun lady[/spoiler] been in? She looks familiar, but I can't place her.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: satchmo on 29 October, 2008, 08:31:27 PM
It's turning into one of the highlights of the year for me, absolutely brilliant. Funny, scary and some great acting. My only complaint is that Kevin Eldon is way too familiar a face to work as that character for me, but I can live with it! I can't wait for tonight's ep now.

"I'm a Normalite!"
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: radiator on 29 October, 2008, 10:22:33 PM
Big Brother Live channel....?
Hmmmmm. Bit contrived, but still highly entertaining.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Mardroid on 29 October, 2008, 11:42:39 PM
Bucket scene.

Oh dear.

(Disgusting. Is it wrong it had me cracking up?)

I was wondering that the wire fence could keep these running zombies out, but at least they explained that easily enough in the swimming pool scene.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: paulvonscott on 30 October, 2008, 12:28:38 AM
Managed to just tape the first eisode on E4+1 thanks to the boarders here.  Have enjoyed the first one immensley, looking forward to the rest.  Better than Shaun of the Dead, if that mans anything.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 30 October, 2008, 12:47:50 AM
I love the fact that this doesn't go down the obvious and cynical route of laughing at all those terribly vulgar people who enjoy reality shows. Eldon's character seems to be pretty much the same as Julian Barratt in Nathan Barley in that the joke is on him for trying to pretend he's above all this, and I don't think it's too much of a stretch to imagine that he is basically an analogue for Brooker himself. The fire extinguisher scene was probably the most upsetting thing I've seen on TV in years.

Nurse, Doctor Who requires 20 ccs of Charlie Brooker stat.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: satchmo on 30 October, 2008, 01:20:38 AM
Yeah, it actually made me feel that, faced with the end of the world, even Big Brother contestants are precious and full of life and special. How the fuck did you manage that, Charlie Brooker?!
Kevin Eldon has all the answers until it actually comes to doing anything at all, when he can't even stab someone in the head. :)
Love it.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: radiator on 30 October, 2008, 10:01:01 PM
QuoteWhat else has badass gun lady been in? She looks familiar, but I can't place her.

I'ts been bugging me too, and I just worked it out - she played Mark's high school crush in series 4 of Peep Show.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: radiator on 30 October, 2008, 10:19:11 PM
Man, that last bit was [spoiler]nasty! "I don't even Know what that is!"[/spoiler]

Can't see how its all going to be wrapped up in one more half-hour episode - [spoiler]most of the main cast are still alive. Maybe tomorrow's episode will just be a bloodbath,[/spoiler]or maybe they'll leave it dangling for a second series....

Either way I'm already sold on the DVD.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Goaty on 30 October, 2008, 10:23:32 PM
love the Producer!

is it most gore ever on tv???

and nice see Brian the Zombie! but in good clever scene!
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Matt Timson on 31 October, 2008, 08:06:52 AM
Quote from: "Mardroid"
Quote from: "Matt Timson"Missed it and on demand doesn't cater for Macs.  How backward is that?

Do you have cable? They have the shows as part of the On-demand service there too.

I saw the second episode yesterday. Nice follow-up. I'm a bit disappointed it's only a 1/2 hour now it just didn't feel meaty enough. Still, they obviously want to spread it throughout the week with the run-up to Halloween and I guess it's better to take that option than fill the episodes with superfluous fluff.

Sky.  I'll just wait for DVD.  Or YouTube.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Mardroid on 31 October, 2008, 12:56:10 PM
QuoteSky. I'll just wait for DVD. Or YouTube.

Or the feature length version that's coming out over the weekend, tomorrow  I believe- i.e the whole lot in one go..?

I doubt I'll watch the whole lot again (I quite like my little snippets, although they feel too short.) but I imagine they'd work well that way.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: paulvonscott on 31 October, 2008, 12:59:54 PM
I had meant to say that I'd need to rewatch the first episode again (and it's the only one I've watched so far) but there were at least two references to zombie movies and I suspect there may have been more.

They're coming to get you barabra is the obvious one.

But the producer also referred to living dead at the manchester morgue, which is an old fave of mine.

Dead Set has rather crept up on me, but it's just sinking in that Channel 4 have made a zombie TV series.  Amazing.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: satchmo on 31 October, 2008, 01:12:49 PM
Ep 4 had some juicy Dawn of The Dead references, it's also the goriest thing I've seen in a long time. I was nearly behind that sofa! I'm so excited about the finale tonight.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: chris_askham on 31 October, 2008, 11:41:14 PM
Well, I thoroughly enjoyed that from start to finish.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Dave Kendall on 01 November, 2008, 12:01:54 AM
Boy, what a roller coaster that was. I don't have a problem saying it's the best zombie film I've ever seen. Seriously dark and apocalyptic stuff, brilliantly conceived and written.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: M.I.K. on 01 November, 2008, 12:19:05 AM
[spoiler]Only problem with the last episode was that I guessed it would probably end like that before I'd even seen the first episode. The fact that I watched the whole thing anyway must be proof of how well written it was.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Mardroid on 01 November, 2008, 12:44:06 AM
Gotta love a happy ending eh?

[spoiler]Actually I wish there had been at least a couple of survivors. Or if they had at least left it ambiguous. Particularly the boyfriend who went through all that journey only to die shortly after reuniting with his girlfriend. That being said, it was certainly realistic. (Well appart from the producer shouting, "Go on eat it, it's full of shit" after he'd been torn in half and was being eaten alive.)[/spoiler]

A great zombie series though. (Not that their are many to compare with, but this certainly raises the bar high, and compares well with films out there.)
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 01 November, 2008, 09:25:07 AM
In the words of Mrs X, "That was the only way it could end".

The best ending to a zombie film I've seen. It compares to the original (cut but on the DVD) ending of 28 Days Later, where [spoiler]the main character dies, and the survivors just get up and move on[/spoiler].

Some top notch Dawn and Day of the Dead references (the producer in Dead Set is the "human asshole" characacter need for any zombie film, and dies [spoiler]the same way as the knob in Day of the Dead - the army sargeant - even down to the "eat it" line[/spoiler]).  Then there was the obvious shopping mall nod to Dawn in the Dead Set credit sequence.

In connection with a zombie outbreak, how DO you survive? I plan on heading for an island, where there is a finite and destroyale number of zombies. However, that plan assumes I only need to wait for the zombies to decay. Is that a viable plan, or do you think they stay "healthy" indefinitely?
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Eldritch on 01 November, 2008, 11:02:39 AM
Watched the first three eps in one go & posted this to friends:



Spoilers maybe



It's ok; I'll watch the final 2 eps willingly enough. Brooker was deliberately disingenuous though when he described it as "unashamed populist schlock," which is oxymoronic when hitched to the zombie genre. There's nothing populist about graphic head stavings or cannibalism and there never will be.
There's an initial hint of nudity & titillation - genuine Big Brother populist schlock in other words - that never transpires, but really I reckon he was tacitly warding off expectation of anything new, ground-breaking or distinctive here. It was billed as a horror comedy & satire, but it's not funny (the horror is too strong for that) and, while the premise is notionally satirical, the execution isn't.
 
Also, the more I see fast zombies, the more I appreciate Romero's shamblers: the slow, inexorable, irresistible stupidity of the masses looming, closing...
Genius.

Then watched the final 2 eps & mailed this:
More Spoilers maybe:



Saw the last of it tonight. Revised my opinion of it, to the good. The satire is more brutal (in your face, evisceratingly in one scene) towards the close. Also there is an explicit (in both senses of the word) homage to the most infamous death in Day Of The Dead, followed by some extraordinarily faithful Romero-esque zombie iconography.
It's to immediately be re-broadcast as a movie on E4 on Saturday & that would be the one to see.
 
Overall, liked it quite a bit.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Keef Monkey on 01 November, 2008, 04:00:11 PM
I loved it, absolutely loved it. Wasn't what I expected at all (thought it was going to be far lighter in tone) but it totally blew me away.

[spoiler]Even after a week of it though, the intensity of the last episode took me off-guard and actually left me feeling a bit upset which doesn't happen often. It was always obvious the producer was going to get the worst death, and the more of an arse he acted the more I looked forward to it, but when it happened I didn't relish in it, rather found it quite disturbing. Like to think of myself as pretty hardy when it comes to horror, but it genuinely freaked me out and me and my lady sat in silence for a full minute after it ended with our jaws on the floor.

It was an incredibly grim climax, and it was obvious the house would be compromised, but the sheer apocalyptic vibe was breathtaking, and I actually found it more intense than 28 Days Later and whatnot.[/spoiler]

It all looked remarkably good too, reckon it'll do great if they sell it onto America. Compare it to any episode from Masters Of Horror and it mops the floor with them, and it did brilliantly with a low budget (went to see the awful Saw V the same day which looked like a shit tv movie in comparison). Have always loved Brooker but still didn't expect this to be quite as good as it was, being a new avenue for him. Not a bad performance in there either.

Also, does NO-ONE else fancy Jaime Winston? I've had my eye on her ever since that Hewlitt pilot and her attention-saving nudity in Donkey Punch, but everyone I know seems to think she just looks like a miniature version of her dad.

Oh, and just to add to an already overlong post, NEW SCREENWIPE THIS MONTH! I could kiss Brooker, I really could.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: paulvonscott on 01 November, 2008, 04:22:16 PM
Gah, just went to watch the rest but the last episode hasn't taped, luckily it's on again tonight.

The roughtop thing is very reminiscent of the remake Dawn of the Dead, but not a reference I guess.

Yeah, it's great.  Charlie Brooker has done a good job, bit of a poacher turned gamekeeper, but he's pulled it off.

Has renewed a little of my faith in Channel 4.  And I think it's great that Big Brother has been used.  It's amazing they got Davina and all those ex-contestants in as well as the sets etc.  Not a fan of reality shows, but it's just a clever idea, very well done.

Sadly have no faith in my ability under pressure if (I mean when) a zombie outbreak occurs.  I'd be like the wretched Eldon character, completely bloody useless and making completely bloody useless comments.

Anyway, I'll be getting the DVD.  My favourite show this year tied with Dexter.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: TordelBack on 01 November, 2008, 04:51:16 PM
QuoteI could kiss Brooker, I really could.

No surprise there, if'n you fancy Ray Jr!
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: johnnystress on 01 November, 2008, 08:33:13 PM
Tonight on E4-
22:00     Dead Set
      
A special feature-length version of the zombie horror series set in a fictional Big Brother house, featuring all five episodes
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Roger Godpleton on 01 November, 2008, 09:25:23 PM
It occurred to me that the producer actually "won" cos he didn't turn into a zombie. Your thoughts?

I concur that Jaime Winstone is a very fine young woman.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Tiplodocus on 01 November, 2008, 10:41:09 PM
Enjoyed it much more than I thought I would after the initial episode.

Some of teh character turnarounds were a bit quick for my liking and the ending did seem terribly rushed but overall it did actually get to me slightly and left me feeling unpleasant and wondering more than once or twice today what I would do in that situation.

I think my favourite scene was the arrival of the armed coppers; just because it makes you think "Oh, I know where this is going" but then doesn't.

The unremitting bleakness of it all was one thing that struck me; even in DAWN OF THE DEAD (my favourite zombie movie - both versions) there's a kind of faint glamour and coolness attached to their situation that this just did not have.

Top marks toe E4 - must send them the script for my Zombie opus "Pure Dead Brilliant".
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Lobo Baggins on 02 November, 2008, 08:48:02 AM
Quote from: "Godpleton"I concur that Jaime Winstone is a very fine young woman.

Agreed, but not when she does that scowly face and looks almost exactly like her dad...
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: paulvonscott on 02 November, 2008, 10:30:51 AM
Just seen the last episode, ood stuff.

However, last episode spolier ahead...

When they decided to [spoiler]kill or cripple the producer I just said fuck them, and was glad to see the horrible human bastards die.[/spoiler]

Hurrah!  A triumph!
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Mardroid on 02 November, 2008, 11:39:14 AM
Quote from: "Keef Monkey"Also, does NO-ONE else fancy Jaime Winston? I've had my eye on her ever since that Hewlitt pilot and her attention-saving nudity in Donkey Punch, but everyone I know seems to think she just looks like a miniature version of her dad.

She's quite cute certainly (although I wonder if I'm too old to fancy her. Naaah. As the young lady is over 18, s'ok...)

And despite my earlier comments of "I wish it had been left ambiguous at the end or had at least one or two survivors," on thinking about it further, I think it works out well as it is.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Colin YNWA on 02 November, 2008, 06:31:26 PM
Just watched it all in one go. While I know such talk is dangerous straight after watching something I think I can safely say. BEST. ZOMBIE. FILM. EVER!

Loved it. Funny, scarey and incredibly human all at the same time. Charlie Brooker is a genius.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: deus x machina on 10 November, 2008, 07:10:02 PM
Quote from: "Uncle Umpty"Liked it.

No problem with 'fast' zombies.

[spoiler]Fire extinguisher is possibly best zombie death ever put to film.[/spoiler]

Grim and funny.


I agree, great touch and great camera use
Been working away but good to see that my thread has been used well. I've only managed to watch the first one up to now but have them all on sky+ ready to watch
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Tiplodocus on 11 November, 2008, 12:42:31 PM
Something else that just struck me about this:

[spoiler]Zombie Pippa was actually more attractive than alive Pippa.[/spoiler]
Probabaly very deliberate.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Mardroid on 11 November, 2008, 02:48:11 PM
Quote from: "Tiplodocus"Something else that just struck me about this:

[spoiler]Zombie Pippa was actually more attractive than alive Pippa.[/spoiler]
Probabaly very deliberate.

Heh.  [spoiler]I'll admit, she did look rather cute staring up at the camera with that gormless yet thoughtful expression and those strange pale eyes...[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Hoagy on 11 November, 2008, 02:50:13 PM
For those who want the DVD. It's on the shelf of WHSmiths. 20quid I think. But I suggest you go for the 5 Doctors at a tenner.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Goaty on 11 November, 2008, 03:22:08 PM
nah, as it 11.99 online! whsmith always too cost for DVDs!
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Mardroid on 12 November, 2008, 01:02:38 AM
A guardian article concerning Dead-set here written by Simon Pegg.

//http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/nov/04/television-simon-pegg-dead-set

He liked it but disliked the fast zombies. I'm undecided as I think both kinds are great in different ways, but I can see his point.

It was a great bit of telly though.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Dandontdare on 12 November, 2008, 06:02:15 PM
Quote from: "Mardroid"A guardian article concerning Dead-set here written by Simon Pegg.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/no ... g-dead-set (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/nov/04/television-simon-pegg-dead-set)

He liked it but disliked the fast zombies. I'm undecided as I think both kinds are great in different ways, but I can see his point.
...and Charlie Brooker's marvelous reply this Monday (after the Obama bit):
//http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/nov/10/barack-obama-zombies-running
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 13 November, 2008, 09:19:35 AM
I just read about this on the  'Urban Dead' board.

//http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OErUbThn4pg

Imagine a Zombie epidemic happening in the outside world while being a contestant in the BIG BROTHER house.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Goaty on 13 November, 2008, 09:41:01 AM
QuoteImagine a Zombie epidemic happening in the outside world while being a contestant in the BIG BROTHER house.

yes it called "Dead Set"!
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: House of Usher on 29 November, 2008, 05:33:33 PM
FINALLY got round to seeing the last several episodes after missing everything that happened after the two outsiders abandoning their car and finding the secure house.

Excellent. Glad, in a way, that I still had this to look forward to. In the end I got used to seeing The Actor Kevin Eldon as a Big Brother contestant, because when I finally saw the bits I'd missed, that was the last role I'd seen him in! As usual, much of the pathos came from the terrible waste of life you usual get in zombie/survival scenarios where people die of tripping over a brick or shooting one another by accident or not staying put when they're safe. [spoiler]However, as the reality of their situation became clear, with finite supplies and all their exits cut off, it was probably best to have it over with sooner than drag it out over weeks of rationing, waiting and arguing about who ate the last twix.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Tommy Alpha on 07 December, 2008, 01:24:11 AM
Hmm.  Was probably my favourite 'nu-skool' zombie thing I've seen.  Nice nods to Lacan and the film Irreversible as well.  The script got a little tiresome as they all sounded like Brooker.  And Brooker doesn't do pathos so well, at least not in dialogue.  

I'm in NO WAY down with the running zombies, though.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 07 December, 2008, 05:42:15 AM
I don't like any of the Modern zombie films portray Zombies these days.

I prefer the old fashioned.

Bring back the

The Evil dead vareity.

The ones from Michael Jackson's Thriller.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Bouwel on 07 December, 2008, 07:59:27 AM
Quote from: "ThryllSeekyr"I don't like any of the Modern zombie films portray Zombies these days.

I prefer the old fashioned.

Bring back the

The Evil dead vareity.

The ones from Michael Jackson's Thriller.

Even better make a film (or series) based upon the book 'World War Z'. It'd be fairly grim but I think it could be a winner. It also shows how zombies 'should' be.

-Bouwel-
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Tommy Alpha on 07 December, 2008, 09:25:25 AM
I should read that- it's by Mel Brooks' kid, right? Is it any good?
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 07 December, 2008, 09:36:08 AM
Sorry about my bad grammar.

I meant to say, that I don't like how Zombies are portrayed in the modern Zombie films these days.

A return to the days of Evil Dead two and three, and that Michael Jackson 'Thriller' Video.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Tommy Alpha on 07 December, 2008, 09:51:21 AM
What- disco dancin' zombies?  Better than them running I guess!
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 07 December, 2008, 10:20:56 AM
Bouwel says,

QuoteIt also shows how zombies 'should' be.

I'm not saying that there's right way for 'Zombies' to be portrayed.

I going for the option that I like those zombies that have known to shuffle slowly, with rotted skin colouring in the shades of blue, green yellow and having bright purple blood.

Why becuase they seem more entertaining that way.

Sort like saying that in StarWars. When a ship explodes in the vacum of space.

It's not right in as far as being scientifically correct, but it's the most entertaining way of showing it.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Cthulouis on 07 December, 2008, 11:14:21 AM
QuoteEven better make a film (or series) based upon the book 'World War Z'. It'd be fairly grim but I think it could be a winner. It also shows how zombies 'should' be.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0816711/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0816711/)
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Bouwel on 07 December, 2008, 11:40:36 AM
Ah, so they are making a World War Z film...my life is now complete (even more so if they can include dinosaurs and monkeys in it!)
Edited to add: Yes, the book is pretty well written and worth a read.

-Bouwel-
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: ThryllSeekyr on 07 December, 2008, 12:32:27 PM
Can anybody find the front cover picture of DiceMan one and put it up here.

It's a colourful picture of some punk Zombies lookomg down atowards a imagery victim.

 Same perspective used on the front cover of 'The Boys' except they are not Zombies.

Anyway, that the particular Zombie look I am thinking of.

Bright colourful , more interesting, than the dull gray-blue, pulce, variety  with glowing eyes.

Zombies that only appaer to move more slowly, shuffling along are more frightening espeically when they have mysteriously  gained more ground than the more atheletic human victims running away from them.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: Mardroid on 07 December, 2008, 04:40:35 PM
Quote from: "ThryllSeekyr"I'm not saying that there's right way for 'Zombies' to be portrayed.

I going for the option that I like those zombies that have known to shuffle slowly, with rotted skin colouring in the shades of blue, green yellow and having bright purple blood.

I wouldn't count the creatures from the Evil Dead films as traditional zombies though. They do their share of lurching, certainly but they also levitate and manifest superhuman strength and can move pretty fast when they want to. Strictly speaking I wouldn't class them as zombies at all, especially as some aren't even dead. Also, in the second and third films they're more like demonic caricatures of the people they used to be, with exaggerated monstrous features.

(That's not a criticism of those films mind. The Evil Dead films are my favourite horror films in fact. The deadites are great scary monsters too, but in a different way to zombies.)

Traditional zombies* (at least in the film sense) would be the creatures form the original Living dead films. Slow moving, stupid dead folk. I think I prefer these to the fast moving zombies too. (Not including the Deadites, as they're something else entirely as I said.)

I liked Dead Set a lot though.

*Actually the very first zombies to occur in films were in old 60s/70s voodoo horror films. I believe this variety were about the same speed as normal people. I don't really count them though as they're not very iconic... although the voodoo idea is pretty scary.
Title: Re: Dead Set
Post by: satchmo on 07 December, 2008, 05:09:57 PM
Even earlier than that Mardroid! White Zombie was about 1931 too, but it's not very zombiefied.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hT_JnFXC6UA (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hT_JnFXC6UA)