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Title: Wanted:Classic Dan Dare
Post by: Jade Falcon on 30 March, 2016, 11:23:33 PM
Preferably the Titan Print.  I'm wary of the Hawk books as I had a Hawk book of the Trigan Empire one time and the story was drastically cut, so I'm wary of the Dan Dare ones.

I'm not interested in the Garth Ennis one as I've managed to source it from someone, and I also have the Red Moon Mystery.

Also, any of the Spaceship Away issues would be nice as I've heard they're original stories but the old style.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Wanted:Classic Dan Dare
Post by: maryanddavid on 30 March, 2016, 11:43:46 PM
The Hawk Books are the best IMO, and the Dragons Dreams versions are good too, but suffer from poor binding.
Title: Re: Wanted:Classic Dan Dare
Post by: Tjm86 on 31 March, 2016, 08:11:03 AM
The Hawk books keep closer to the original aspect ratio than the Titan books IIRC.  The series skipped over some of the later stories but pretty faithfully reprinted the earlier and probably more popular stuff.  The Bellamy / Watson run of the last few years is the part that they did not print in it's entirety.  Titan is still working through the Hampson years.  Whether they will be more complete on the final years remains to be seen.

There has been discussion on this board previously about the pros and cons of each.  I toyed briefly with trying for the Titan over the Hawk editions to complete the series as some of the later ones can be harder to find and so more expensive but this does seem to be cyclical at times.  The Terra Nova trilogy has always, and curiously, been hard to find.  On the other hand The Man From Nowhere and Reign of the Robots appears quite frequently. 

Personally I'm glad I stuck with the Hawk books, having had a gander at the Titan editions.  I know TroutMark books in Cardiff still has a selection in stock.
Title: Re: Wanted:Classic Dan Dare
Post by: matty_ae on 31 March, 2016, 03:02:58 PM
Full set of Hawk books right now on eBay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dan-Dare-Books-complete-set-of-12-Collectors-Edition-/272188171721?hash=item3f5fade5c9:g:NUEAAOSwxp9W9tKG

If it goes for that, its a bargain...
Title: Re: Wanted:Classic Dan Dare
Post by: Eric Plumrose on 31 March, 2016, 06:14:33 PM
Quote from: Tjm86 on 31 March, 2016, 08:11:03 AMThe series skipped over some of the later stories but pretty faithfully reprinted the earlier and probably more popular stuff.  The Bellamy / Watson run of the last few years is the part that they did not print in it's entirety.

The Keith Watson run went through a phase in which each episodes' second page was printed on the inside front cover. It therefore appeared (and was thus painted, I presume) in black and white with grey wash. IIRC, Hawk decided the contrast of alternating between these pages and the full-colour covers would have been jarring so they weren't reprinted.
Title: Re: Wanted:Classic Dan Dare
Post by: maryanddavid on 31 March, 2016, 07:21:09 PM
Have Titan actually reprinted any of the material that Hawke missed? Its a while since Titan released a volume too I think.
Title: Re: Wanted:Classic Dan Dare
Post by: Colin YNWA on 31 March, 2016, 09:00:25 PM
I've actually got a number of the Hawk books (volumes 1, 4 and 5 I think) I need to sell. They were given to me, but I had a feelign they might be valuable so did a bit of research and fond volume 4 (again I think) is pretty valuable and so said i couldn't except them BUT would read them and then sell them and pass on the 'winnings'.

Need therefore to get to reading them!
Title: Re: Wanted:Classic Dan Dare
Post by: maryanddavid on 31 March, 2016, 09:58:55 PM
I am a big fan from way back of these Colin, Volume 5 is one of my favourite comics, along with its follow up Rouge Planet and Reign of the Robots.
Probably not worth as much as they were a few years back, the Titan editions have taken a little bit of heat out of the market.
Title: Re: Wanted:Classic Dan Dare
Post by: Jade Falcon on 02 April, 2016, 08:02:23 PM
I had just been wary of Hawk after being burned by the Trigan Empire book they did.  Albeit the first Hamlyn book I had got many years before wasn't perfect either but had far more in it.  I would be more liable to go for Hawk now, preferably hardback of course.

What is the Dossier?  The only Dare books I have at present are the Titan Red Moon Mystery which I picked up in a charity shop for £1.85 and the Hayne ISF manual which I'm enjoying.

I do remember enjoying elements of the relaunched Eagles Dan Dare, IIRC, that was largely done by one of the ex Trigan Empire artists.
Title: Re: Wanted:Classic Dan Dare
Post by: matty_ae on 03 April, 2016, 08:07:39 AM
DD Dossier:
Celebrating the 40th Anniversary of Dan Dare, Pilot of the Future

A collectors guide, featuring full episode listings and summaries, some strips from the Annuals, a history af the strip and its artists, especially Frank Hampson, and mechandising.

So it's a nice piece but not essential.
I think the artists who bridges Trigan & new DD is Oli Frey.
Title: Re: Wanted:Classic Dan Dare
Post by: Jade Falcon on 03 April, 2016, 07:54:59 PM
Oli Frey? I've got one of his art books, he was also known for doing the covers of Crash, Zzap 64 and Amtix magazines back in the day, as well as the Terminal Man strip which run in those computer mags.  A pretty nice style.
Title: Re: Wanted:Classic Dan Dare
Post by: Jade Falcon on 08 April, 2016, 12:31:16 AM
Quote from: Colin_YNWA on 31 March, 2016, 09:00:25 PM
I've actually got a number of the Hawk books (volumes 1, 4 and 5 I think) I need to sell. They were given to me, but I had a feelign they might be valuable so did a bit of research and fond volume 4 (again I think) is pretty valuable and so said i couldn't except them BUT would read them and then sell them and pass on the 'winnings'.

Need therefore to get to reading them!

Colin, if you ever think in selling then, let me know what you would like for them?
Title: Re: Wanted:Classic Dan Dare
Post by: Colin YNWA on 08 April, 2016, 06:46:43 AM
I really must get around to it so hopefully I'll be in touch soon.
Title: Re: Wanted:Classic Dan Dare
Post by: Jade Falcon on 08 April, 2016, 09:17:22 PM
Read the Garth Ennis one that I had managed to get, and it's....different, but still enjoyable.  I'm surprised no one ever reprinted at least some of the early Dan Dare from the 80's Eagle.
Title: Re: Wanted:Classic Dan Dare
Post by: Colin YNWA on 08 April, 2016, 09:54:03 PM
Ahem

http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?topic=43140.0 (http://forums.2000adonline.com/index.php?topic=43140.0)
Title: Re: Wanted:Classic Dan Dare
Post by: maryanddavid on 08 April, 2016, 11:41:30 PM
Love to Colin, I have found recently that the copyright to (Just) the Return of the Mekon is... complicated.
Title: Re: Wanted:Classic Dan Dare
Post by: Tjm86 on 09 April, 2016, 09:34:39 AM
What about crowd funding?  Certainly there is a lot of support here.  What is the worst that could happen?
Title: Re: Wanted:Classic Dan Dare
Post by: Jade Falcon on 13 April, 2016, 09:28:42 PM
Since the consensus here seems to be that the Hawk Books are superior, what is the difference between these two books, and what content do they have?  I'm getting the impression though I may be wrong it's the "Voyage to Venus" storyline, which would certainly be better here as in the Titan prints that is split into two books and getting both for a reasonable price is difficult, especially as the first one is far more common on the open market than the second.

So what is in these, and is the cover the only difference, maybe different print runs?


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DAN-DARE-1-Pilot-of-the-Future-10th-Anniversary-1st-Deluxe-Collectors-Edition-/231881389862?hash=item35fd353726:g:yC8AAOSwpIdW61Rx

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DAN-DARE-PILOT-OF-THE-FUTURE-Higgs-Mike-/111887306528?hash=item1a0d00cf20:g:lU8AAOSwnLdWqITu
Title: Re: Wanted:Classic Dan Dare
Post by: matty_ae on 14 April, 2016, 02:09:52 PM
They both contain the same first Dan Dare story in its entirety.

The first is hardback, 10th Anniversary, printing the pages at full size.

The second is paperback and printed on smaller paper reducing the size of the artwork.

Both are pretty common but the paperback goes for a lot less than this in my opinion.

Title: Re: Wanted:Classic Dan Dare
Post by: Jade Falcon on 01 May, 2016, 09:43:48 PM
Haven't got them through yet, but I've managed to secure two Hawk Dan Dare books, the first one with the Voyage to Venus storyline, and Rogue Planet which is book 6.  The rest I'll get as and when I can at decent prices.
Title: Re: Wanted:Classic Dan Dare
Post by: Jade Falcon on 01 June, 2016, 12:06:56 AM
Sorry, not trying to necro, but I've got the Hawk books, 1 - Voyage to Venus, the 10th Anniversary reprint edition which was £25, but when you see the price the two Titan books that make up that story go for, it's not so bad.

Book 2, The Red Moon Mystery/Marooned on Mercury.  I had a bit of difficulty with this one.  Marooned is set directly after Red Moon which is a cracking story but the wrap up seems a bit quickly contrived.  However, I got the impression I got was that these stories were set very shortly after book 1.  The Mekon however talks about the years he has been stranded and the crew of the Kingfisher say the same.  I don't imagine Eagle at the time bothered with such a thing as a timeline, how different in some ways comics were back then.

Many thanks to those who recommended the Hawk books.  Comparing the Red Moon story from Hawk to my charity shop bought Titan edition I can see why the Hawk books are recommended.  The only downside is they are heavy, but the large size allows us to see the artwork clearly.

I haven't read Rogue Planet yet, it's a direct sequel to Man from Nowhere and I want to get that.  The way the price of the Titan books are going, it seems to be six and half a dozen price wise, the Titan books also have the disadvantage that two or three have split stories between two books, like Voyage to Venus.

Anyone got any info on the last two Hawk Books, they seem a big vague, book 11 is Solid Space Mysteries and 12 is just labelled as the last book.

Title: Re: Wanted:Classic Dan Dare
Post by: matty_ae on 01 June, 2016, 04:53:16 PM
I did 7 volumes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXTpmtL9Dqw
Title: Re: Wanted:Classic Dan Dare
Post by: Jade Falcon on 01 June, 2016, 07:49:47 PM
I wouldn't have minded a full reprint of some of the 80's stuff, it wasn't too bad at all.  I'm aware Hibernia do some reprinting but I dont think they've got the full run.