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Title: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Freaks (inc Faces) vs Dredd (Movie) - Round 1 Heat 19
Post by: Colin YNWA on 09 November, 2021, 06:23:30 AM
Into the third week now and we're well into the swing of things and we've really been testing those thrill-banks so far and exposing thrills that aren't very fondly remembered and so folks are struggling to recall. This week will be no different, there will be thrills here that are pretty damned decent and some that will have folks wondering why they've never read them... and in some cases that won't be a bad thing!

Brackets at the end of these two are important in identifying what's included here. I'm putting Faces in with Freaks for obvious reasons. Dredd only refers to the movie 'sequel' strips - don't use it as a proxy for our fav Ol' Stoney Face generally as that's the law creeps.

Which most rattles your thrill-receptors:

Freaks - more info (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=profiles&choice=FREAKS)

Vs.
Dredd (Movie) - more info (https://shop.2000ad.com/series/dredd)

Just reply in this thread naming your favourite thrill of these two series at the beginning of your post (or use Bold tags so I can spot it easily) and say what you like about these wonderful stories after that.

Match ends early on the morning of Friday 12th November and the winner gets a place in Round 2 (of 9!!!).

What on Earth is ALL of this? (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=48011.0)

For those that need 'um and can be bothered to follow 'um there's some simple rules (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=48011.msg1070150#msg1070150)

Any questions, just ask as ever - and have FUN!
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Freaks (inc Faces) vs Dredd (Movie) - Round 1 Heat 19
Post by: broodblik on 09 November, 2021, 06:49:32 AM
This is the first difficult one for me but lest go for Dredd
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Freaks (inc Faces) vs Dredd (Movie) - Round 1 Heat 19
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 09 November, 2021, 08:13:21 AM
Freaks
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Freaks (inc Faces) vs Dredd (Movie) - Round 1 Heat 19
Post by: abelardsnazz on 09 November, 2021, 08:17:07 AM
So where does the adaptation of the Stallone movie fit in?

I haven't read Faces but remember Freaks as a good collaboration between Milligan and Higgins so Freaks it is.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Freaks (inc Faces) vs Dredd (Movie) - Round 1 Heat 19
Post by: Colin YNWA on 09 November, 2021, 08:18:19 AM
Quote from: abelardsnazz on 09 November, 2021, 08:17:07 AM
So where does the adaptation of the Stallone movie fit in?

Not in either Prog or Meg (I think) so doesn't qualify.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Freaks (inc Faces) vs Dredd (Movie) - Round 1 Heat 19
Post by: AlexF on 09 November, 2021, 09:08:34 AM
This really is apples and oranges for me. Freaks and Faces are both quite good, although not quite as good voerall as the basic premise of Freaks would suggest. The whole thing ends up being a silly comedy that is a bit like an extension of a Future Shock, and is amazingly 80s (even the 2000s-penned seuqel feels 80s)

Dredd (movie) is just a weird thing that exists to be an alternate version of Judge Dredd, trying quite hard to feel like the movie version but after like two stories that's just not possible, it has to be it's own thing. But for me, each new story got better and better, and the final Dark Judges tale was really very good, properly weird.

I want to vote for Freaks because it's an original story, not an follow-on to an adaptiation. But, you know, the good bits of Dredd are too good to ignore. Dredd it is.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Freaks (inc Faces) vs Dredd (Movie) - Round 1 Heat 19
Post by: Trooper McFad on 09 November, 2021, 09:15:10 AM
Dredd for me
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Freaks (inc Faces) vs Dredd (Movie) - Round 1 Heat 19
Post by: Timothy on 09 November, 2021, 09:51:24 AM
Freaks
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Freaks (inc Faces) vs Dredd (Movie) - Round 1 Heat 19
Post by: paddykafka on 09 November, 2021, 10:37:43 AM
Freaks
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Freaks (inc Faces) vs Dredd (Movie) - Round 1 Heat 19
Post by: Blue Cactus on 09 November, 2021, 11:12:41 AM
Movie Dredd was a strange one for me. The fact that it was an 'alternative' version did strangely make me less engaged than the stories possibly deserved. I should give it a reread. The art was nice throughout and in particular I remember the shine on Dredd's helmet looking particularly cool throughout! Freaks is ok, but just ok.

I'm voting Freaks but really just because I like the idea of this being a Dreddless contest.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Freaks (inc Faces) vs Dredd (Movie) - Round 1 Heat 19
Post by: rogue69 on 09 November, 2021, 03:07:52 PM
Freaks
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Freaks (inc Faces) vs Dredd (Movie) - Round 1 Heat 19
Post by: Funt Solo on 09 November, 2021, 03:34:41 PM
This one's tricky - I have a lot of time for the Dredd series - it dared to be different while obviously having echos of the version we know.

Freaks had great art and an interesting premise - although I don't hold it up as an all out classic. Strong messaging.

Hrmn ... Dredd takes it, for modern polish and grit.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Freaks (inc Faces) vs Dredd (Movie) - Round 1 Heat 19
Post by: Southstreeter on 09 November, 2021, 06:04:34 PM
freaks
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Freaks (inc Faces) vs Dredd (Movie) - Round 1 Heat 19
Post by: maryanddavid on 10 November, 2021, 12:30:01 AM
Freaks
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Freaks (inc Faces) vs Dredd (Movie) - Round 1 Heat 19
Post by: The Mind of Wolfie Smith on 10 November, 2021, 01:34:16 AM
freaks
... which was, in turn, bewildering, infuriating, and inspiring.
my vote would have gone to the dredd sequels - but i think the colour palete banished all fidelity to the film. this should have been a dark, shadowy, brooding, smouldering, tense thing. but it was all too bright and light and open.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Freaks (inc Faces) vs Dredd (Movie) - Round 1 Heat 19
Post by: redsquirrel on 10 November, 2021, 06:04:38 AM
Freaks by a country mile
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Freaks (inc Faces) vs Dredd (Movie) - Round 1 Heat 19
Post by: JayzusB.Christ on 10 November, 2021, 02:50:53 PM
The Dredd stuff was great, but Freaks wins it for me.  Pete Milligan could do no wrong in his heyday.  Even the second one held up pretty well, even while John Higgins wrote himself as many tits as possible to draw.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Freaks (inc Faces) vs Dredd (Movie) - Round 1 Heat 19
Post by: IndigoPrime on 10 November, 2021, 05:20:19 PM
Freaks. Dredd started well but tailed off. I really disliked how it ended.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Freaks (inc Faces) vs Dredd (Movie) - Round 1 Heat 19
Post by: Magnetica on 10 November, 2021, 05:46:37 PM
The art on Freaks is top notch. Can't remember much about the story so my vote goes to movie Dredd.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Freaks (inc Faces) vs Dredd (Movie) - Round 1 Heat 19
Post by: Rogue Judge on 10 November, 2021, 06:09:10 PM
Finally something I've read! As I've mostly enjoyed the Dredd tie-ins it gets my vote. Not read Freaks.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Freaks (inc Faces) vs Dredd (Movie) - Round 1 Heat 19
Post by: Colin YNWA on 11 November, 2021, 06:13:41 AM
Just the one vote wrapping up tomorrow - this one - as the other tie was abandoned due to ... well cock-up...this one seems to be going one way but looks very close from a quick scan. Votes today could well determine the result. I'll count up in the morning.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Freaks (inc Faces) vs Dredd (Movie) - Round 1 Heat 19
Post by: sheridan on 11 November, 2021, 09:15:13 AM
Freaks - I did like the Dredd film continuations, but the tone wasn't always quite right, and I think there was a little too much trying to get elements we're familiar with from prog Dredd in to film Dredd.
Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Freaks (inc Faces) vs Dredd (Movie) - Round 1 Heat 19
Post by: Link Prime on 11 November, 2021, 11:32:52 AM
The 'Dredd' stuff started strong and ended weak.

I remember quite looking forward to having Alex Di Campi co-write the 'Dark Judges' story-line as she had really impressed me with her various Grindhouse series.
I was bitterly disappointed.
Looking back, the 'Dredd' universe should have remained more grounded, keeping in line with our favourite film.

Anyway, I'll vote Freaks.

Title: Re: Forum’s Favourite Thrill - Freaks (inc Faces) vs Dredd (Movie) - Round 1 Heat 19
Post by: Colin YNWA on 12 November, 2021, 06:23:53 AM
VOTING CLOSED

Well it wasn't close. No fear of Movie Dredd being used as a proxy for regular Dredd and

Freaks

has stormed home here and into the 2nd round.