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Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 04 March, 2022, 11:57:52 PM »
I feel I should withdraw my criticisms of milstars incomprehensible posting style. Milstar, if English isn't your native language, then practicing it by composing posts for the complex and nuanced subject that is the war in Europe and Russian politics, in the relatively consequence free environment of an obscure British comics thread is kind of inspired.

Off Topic / Re: RIPs
« on: 04 March, 2022, 02:36:44 PM »
That's a genuine shock.

This is going to be stuck in my head now.

Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 04 March, 2022, 12:51:24 AM »
Let's not switch the thesis'.

What is that apostrophe doing there? What do you think a thesis is and what do several of them apparently possess?

Putin said is all he did so far.

Putin said is all he did so far.


Putin said is all he did so far.


I beg your pardon?

I can't parse this at all. It's a feckin' riddle. I literally cannot understand you Milstar.

Do you know what a Turing test is?

Off Topic / Re: Where is Tordelback?
« on: 03 March, 2022, 09:00:16 PM »
Maybe he has just forgotten his log in details.

Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 03 March, 2022, 11:12:27 AM »

(snipping quite a bit)

 armchair scientists...

Hey now, the fine men and women that study the science of armchairs are heroes and I'll brook no negativity towards them

Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 03 March, 2022, 02:01:50 AM »
I think it’s good you keep reminding us that you don’t like government’s Shark. We might forget otherwise.

And attempts to discuss current events wouldn't be derailed while people try to grasp your weird philosophy

But it seems that governments have turned science into a religion, and far be it from me to encourage blasphemy...

Scientism has been around since the mid-to-late 20th century, and it wasn't any government's idea.

.. what science is supposed to do - ask questions and discuss results.

You have missed out about half a dozen steps there. Any eejit can ask a question.

Researching*, forming a hypothesis, establishing a null hypothesis, coming up with a methodology, designing a repeatable experiment, establishing the various possible errors, making measurements, drawing conclusions, and then going back to re-evaluate the whole shebang, is where the real work of science is done.

And you don't just discuss the results, you discuss the whole lot. It takes literally years of study to be able to do any of that in a meaningful way. And at the outset you won't even be studying a lot of science, you'll be studying mostly the maths that makes up the framework of a lot of scientific language.

Then at the end of all that, you'll have a lot of knowledge of a complex, but specific bit of science. From there you tend to get two schools of thought

1) I am able to grasp the very specific and complicated thing, therefore I can understand ANY complicated thing. I don't have to listen to experts, because I am an expert.

2) It was a lot of hard work grasping this specific and complicated thing, and I appreciate that others have worked just as hard to understand their complicated and specific thing, so I should probably defer to them.

I fall into 2), and I think scientific endeavours benefit from all the disciplines defering to each other, working together and supporting each other with their own wee bits of specialized knowledge. Scientific progress isn't made by charismatic geniuses smashing preconceptions. Ye get the occasional Newton or Einstein, but it's mostly thousands of unsung scientists chipping away at our preconceptions bit by bit with tools most of us can't really grasp. That needs to be coordinated by some sort of external body, that works on promoting collaboration both nationally and internationally, raising and distributing funds, building labs and so forth. A body that focuses on governing all of that so that the scientists can focus on science. Doesn't sound intrinsically evil to me.

Shark, the reason I'm half-drunkenly rattling this all out of my keyboard is in the hope that you'll understand that I don't think you're stupid when I say I think you're scientifically illiterate.

Science is really hard.

Most scientist have limited literacy in a specific language. I'm only well versed in one of its more obscure dialects and it took me half a decade to understand just that much. So when I nod along to the scientific consensus, it's not like religious faith, it's an understanding of just how ignorant I am, and that there's little chance I could sensibly contradict it without several years study.

Anyway I now return you to your scheduled program:

*google is not research

General / Re: Sideshow Vote: Just one more time
« on: 02 March, 2022, 08:41:50 PM »
Personal all-time favourite characters, they deserve a final tale written by their original co-creator.
Cue: eight episodes where the ‘gang gets back together’ for the umpteenth time.

A final installment could add the twist that Hammerstein is tracking the various bots down not to recruit them, but to destroy them. Breaking his toys so no one else can use them seems a very Pat Mills thing.

Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 02 March, 2022, 08:21:29 PM »
I think it’s good you keep reminding us that you don’t like government’s Shark. We might forget otherwise.

Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 01 March, 2022, 08:12:25 PM »
Years ago, when I started teaching in the US, I was required to show proof of my MMR vaccination status, so I did.

At no point during that process did I think either a) it's all made up by shady governments in order to control me using nanobots or b) I should move to Russia.

I'm not sure which thought would be more insane, there.

I would say option b).

Taking option b) might get you neurotoxined for thinking option a).

Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 27 February, 2022, 09:11:26 PM »
...Putin... told George W Bush as far back as 2008 that he did not believe Ukraine to be a real country.

Unfortunately for Putin, it would appear the Ukrainians zealously believe it is.

... Contested as genocide, there is certainly evidence to suggest that the famine was a deliberate act on the part of the [foreign] regime.  Hence the strength of feeling about [foreign] rule.

Begorrah, sure'n doesn't that sound quare familiar

Prog / Re: Prog 2270 - Who Should Be on the Cover?
« on: 26 February, 2022, 12:02:28 AM »
Randomly, Lobster Random

Music / Re: What's everyone listening to...?
« on: 25 February, 2022, 11:45:15 PM »
I was today years old when I discovered Rhiannon Giddens. If you have four minutes to spare, you should spend them being astonished and devastated by her song Julie.

You're welcome.

Books & Comics / Re: Comixology 4.0 - not sounding good.
« on: 24 February, 2022, 08:21:51 PM »
Apologies for getting back on topic


Off Topic / Re: The Political Thread
« on: 24 February, 2022, 08:18:00 PM »
The more I learn about this Vladimir Putin character the less I care for him

Books & Comics / Re: Comixology 4.0 - not sounding good.
« on: 23 February, 2022, 04:36:23 PM »
This isn’t YouTube’s fault, sure. But what is: YouTube not giving a fuck about it

You're quite right IP, but in my defense I was trying to be brief. They'll only give a fuck if they're losing money or getting bad (mainstream) press. The thing you have to remember about youtube, more specifically, it's parent company Google, is they are ultimately an advertising platform. Advertisers are their customers and clients, not the creators. The creators are an expense. Hosting videos isn't free. The culmulative running time of all the videos on youtube is probably bordering on cosmological scales. I would suggest it's impossible to design an unexploitable system to police all that data. The system will never be perfect, but you get what you pay for, and in youtube's case, you pay nothing.

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