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Title: Stone Killers v The Killing - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 02
Post by: Colin YNWA on 20 July, 2021, 06:30:07 AM
Stone Killers v The Killing - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 02

Into the Qualifying groups and kicking off with the first two ties from the Long Stories Region, Group 1

All you need do is vote for your favourite between:

The Stone Killers - more info (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=covers&page=progs&MaxProg=2184&FirstProg=560&LastProg=572)

Vs.

The Killing - more info (https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/index.php?cat=96&id=4963)

Just reply in this thread naming your favourite of these two stories at the beginning of your post (or use Bold tags so I can spot it easy) and say what you like about these wonderful stories after that.

Match ends early on the morning of Friday 23rd July and the winner (I'll count up who gets the most votes basically) gets 3 points towards qualifying... huh...

... there's a spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F3W5KkY37ZcH39J93nq5hR5_RhPIvaOapv7sZ0EmvUQ/edit?usp=sharing) to make following easier... if you fancy. If not, don't worry just VOTE!!!!

What on Earth is all this? (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47697.msg1064493#msg1064493)

Why (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47696.0)
on Tharg's Earth head are we doing this?

Any questions, just ask as ever - and have FUN!

Oh and my 'More info' links... well I don't say how much more and they get pretty wonky at times!
Title: Re: Stone Killers v The Killing - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 02
Post by: broodblik on 20 July, 2021, 06:46:11 AM
The Killing for me.

Colin your link for The Killing take us to the ZX Spectrum Game. The Killing originally was published in prog 350-359. It was also published in the Agency Files Vol 2: https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/XB300 (https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/XB300)
Title: Re: Stone Killers v The Killing - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 02
Post by: moogie101 on 20 July, 2021, 07:29:15 AM
The Killing  slightly biased as the first SD story I ever read and remains one of my favourites.
Title: Re: Stone Killers v The Killing - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 02
Post by: The Enigmatic Dr X on 20 July, 2021, 07:47:31 AM
Stone Killers

But this is a hard one!
Title: Re: Stone Killers v The Killing - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 02
Post by: Colin YNWA on 20 July, 2021, 07:59:46 AM
Quote from: broodblik on 20 July, 2021, 06:46:11 AM
The Killing for me.

Colin your link for The Killing take us to the ZX Spectrum Game. The Killing originally was published in prog 350-359. It was also published in the Agency Files Vol 2: https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/XB300 (https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/XB300)

QuoteOh and my 'More info' links... well I don't say how much more and they get pretty wonky at times!

And sometimes they are done for the just plain fun of it! Wait until you see some of the others!
Title: Re: Stone Killers v The Killing - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 02
Post by: Magnetica on 20 July, 2021, 08:21:42 AM
Forbrydelsen....sorry not that one, rather The Killing.
Title: Re: Stone Killers v The Killing - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 02
Post by: Barrington Boots on 20 July, 2021, 08:43:09 AM
Definitely The Killing for me. Stone Killers has it's moments but I think it loses it's way a bit with at the brewery nonsense. The Killing is classic Johnny and Wulf action with a great cast of lunatics.

Weapon of choice? Napalm Blister Blaster
Permitted additional weapon? Bigger Napalm Blister Blaster
Title: Re: Stone Killers v The Killing - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 02
Post by: sheridan on 20 July, 2021, 09:00:59 AM
The Killing - similar to moogie, this was the first complete Stront story I ever read (The Moses Quest Quest was the first one I read some of, but I missed progs so it was some time until I read the whole lot).
Title: Re: Stone Killers v The Killing - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 02
Post by: AlexF on 20 July, 2021, 09:23:59 AM
The Killing, no contest!
Title: Re: Stone Killers v The Killing - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 02
Post by: Trooper McFad on 20 July, 2021, 09:34:29 AM
The Killing for me
Title: Re: Stone Killers v The Killing - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 02
Post by: IndigoPrime on 20 July, 2021, 09:57:20 AM
Stone Killers is good, but does feel a bit like a strip past its peak, where it had hit absurdly dizzy highs and was therefore having to make do sitting in a stupor, having a bit of a come-down.

The Killing is in some ways a bit by-the-numbers, but it's really tightly written, with a great mix of action and absurdity that gets the balance just right. So: The Killing.
Title: Re: Stone Killers v The Killing - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 02
Post by: Dark Jimbo on 20 July, 2021, 10:21:46 AM
The Stone Killers has all the ingredients for a classic - Durham, Middenface, some distinct baddies, callbacks to the past with the legacy of the Stixes... but it just feels a bit tired and by-the-numbers. I'm not sure Grant's heart was really in if by this point.

So it's The Killing for me, an avowed classic.
Title: Re: Stone Killers v The Killing - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 02
Post by: paddykafka on 20 July, 2021, 10:32:47 AM
The Killing.
Title: Re: Stone Killers v The Killing - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 02
Post by: Southstreeter on 20 July, 2021, 01:05:06 PM
The Killing though I did like the bad guys in Stone Killers.

The format has already lost me. Qualifiers? Thought we were on annuals and specials this week. Oh well, best just roll with it.
Title: Re: Stone Killers v The Killing - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 02
Post by: Colin YNWA on 20 July, 2021, 05:40:05 PM
Quote from: Southstreeter on 20 July, 2021, 01:05:06 PM
The format has already lost me. Qualifiers? Thought we were on annuals and specials this week. Oh well, best just roll with it.

We are AND the first games in 4 other regions. Just rolling with it is a fine option but if you want to try to make head or tail (and Jez I just hope I can) there's a spreadsheet here...

spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1F3W5KkY37ZcH39J93nq5hR5_RhPIvaOapv7sZ0EmvUQ/edit?usp=sharing)

Title: Re: Stone Killers v The Killing - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 02
Post by: Leigh S on 20 July, 2021, 06:13:10 PM
No contest on this one

Th eKilling os primo Stront and a contender to go far. 

Stone Killers is the story that gives truth ot the lie that late era Classic Stront is a downward Spiral that needed "rescuing" by Final Solution. 

In the bin, Stone Killers, the Killing wins!
Title: Re: Stone Killers v The Killing - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 02
Post by: Dog Deever on 21 July, 2021, 12:19:16 AM
I quite liked Stone Killers- memorable enough stuff- a little more light-hearted (in a crescendo of drunken violence type way). But yeah, it's The Killing... so-
The Killing ftw.
Title: Re: Stone Killers v The Killing - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 02
Post by: Southstreeter on 21 July, 2021, 01:10:22 PM
I reread The Killing last night, and it's as good as I remembered. Classic stront, will be happy to see this go all the way. (Already voted upthread)
Title: Re: Stone Killers v The Killing - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 02
Post by: Timothy on 21 July, 2021, 02:31:04 PM
The Killing for me - first Strong I read in the prog.
Title: Re: Stone Killers v The Killing - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 02
Post by: GoGilesGo on 21 July, 2021, 02:52:49 PM
The Killing
Title: Re: Stone Killers v The Killing - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 02
Post by: Funt Solo on 21 July, 2021, 05:10:02 PM
City of ... The Killing.
Title: Re: Stone Killers v The Killing - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 02
Post by: Rogue Judge on 21 July, 2021, 05:12:47 PM
The Killing is awesome, I love the whole deathmatch / last man standing on Zed idea, it could have gone on twice as long and I would have been entertained with each match-up. Carlos draws many fantastic aliens, mutants and robots, and that Epilogue is extremely satisfying!

I do like a lot of Carlos character designs in Stone Killers too. Both great stories.
Title: Re: Stone Killers v The Killing - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 02
Post by: Colin YNWA on 22 July, 2021, 06:27:57 AM
Well we're getting towards the end of this one. Any votes are welcome today and I'll count up in the morning first thing and we'll have the first results in qualifying.

My vote then - well it matches most folks I guess Stone Killers is a prime of latter day classic period (huh!?!) Strontium Dog for me. Its fine, but feels like the strip had lost its way a little. The Killing is absolutely prime Stont and a delight and therefore the clear winner.

The Killing
Title: Re: Stone Killers v The Killing - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 02
Post by: DrJomster on 22 July, 2021, 12:51:21 PM
The Killing for me too. Really stuck in my mind as a great story ever since I was a kid!
Title: Re: Stone Killers v The Killing - Bolt-01 Cup - Qualifying - Long: Game 02
Post by: Colin YNWA on 23 July, 2021, 06:37:27 AM
VOTING CLOSED

Well the match-up will get closer! But here it was another storming and clear victory and even the solid defense of The Stone Killers wasn't able to provide any defence and The Killing... well made a killing.

Stone Killers 1 : The Killing 19

The Killing              3    18
Slavers of Drule    3    17
Galaxy Killers        0    -17
Stone Killers          0    -18