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Title: Phil Winslade or Dave Gibbons - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 26
Post by: Colin YNWA on 07 June, 2021, 06:48:37 AM
As we enter the last full week of the competition its all to play for and all square as Classic Team have pulled it back. There are 7 ties to go - what have each team got left in the bag? Well judging by this tie each still has a lot to offer.

Dave Gibbons is such a decent chap it was a real shame when he was just eased out of the Classic Tourney by Brett Ewins in the second round - it was so close. His mark on 2000ad is significant, seeming to draw in almost every issue of the first 100 or more Progd. Yes he's gone onto to bigger (but not) and better things BUT WE DON'T THINK ABOUT  THAT HERE.
We only care for work of Tharg (and sister publications ™)

Phil Winslade has almost the opposite trajectory. He has established himself as an artist working for the big two, only nudging Tharg's organ until recently. His work though on one series alone - Lawless in the Megazine is surely his opus a singularly brilliant piece of genius that earned him a Quarter Final spot in the Current Tourney and a legion of fans simply stunned by the level of detail and dedication he has weaved into this magnificent story. I believe he has kept the art of this series - just imagine - just imagine - if they decided to bring out an Artists Edition of that - wow!

Time for you to decide your favourite as the droids square up to the tee...

Phil Winslade - more info (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=droid&page=profiles&choice=philw)

OR

Dave Gibbons - more info (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=droid&page=profiles&choice=DAVEG)

Remember for this tourney you have 5 votes to distribute as you please between these two artists, whole numbers only. So you can vote 5 - 0; 4 - 1; or 3 - 2; either way depending on how much more you like one artist's work over the other.

If you can't be doing with that just name your favourite - remember bold tags, or other ways of highlighting always appreciated - and I'll give them 3 votes and nowt to the other droid.

Three day votes, so this one ends morning of Thursday 10th June

Remember we only consider work for Tharg in these Tourneys

What the heck is all this about - well we have a thread for that (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47534.0)

How does this new voting work?  Look here (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47534.msg1059536#msg1059536) and why again? (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47534.msg1059557#msg1059557)

I don't understand how this works, what are the rules of the Ryder Cup - yep got ya covered there too (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47534.msg1059595#msg1059595)

Anything else just ask and I'll make something up. Most importantly have fun!
Title: Re: Phil Winslade or Dave Gibbons - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 26
Post by: BPP on 07 June, 2021, 07:02:47 AM
Gibbons 3 - Phil 2

It's amazing how little Phil has worked in 2000ad. A bit like Staz I think his slightly old skool scratchy line mustn't have been Tharg's thing or maybe just happenstance but I likes it. However that lack of volume counts against a master like Gibbons. 2 great artists tho.
Title: Re: Phil Winslade or Dave Gibbons - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 26
Post by: abelardsnazz on 07 June, 2021, 08:04:40 AM
Dave co-creation of Rogue, plus Dan Dare, Chronocops, ABC, Robo-Tales....all brilliant. Phil brings so much detail to Badrock it lives and breathes.

Dave Gibbons 3, Phil Winslade 2.
Title: Re: Phil Winslade or Dave Gibbons - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 26
Post by: broodblik on 07 June, 2021, 09:00:46 AM
Phil 3 Dave 2
Title: Re: Phil Winslade or Dave Gibbons - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 26
Post by: AlexF on 07 June, 2021, 09:05:53 AM
Gibbons 3, Winslade 2
Title: Re: Phil Winslade or Dave Gibbons - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 26
Post by: rogue69 on 07 June, 2021, 09:22:55 AM

Dave Gibbons 2 - 3 Phil Winslade
Title: Re: Phil Winslade or Dave Gibbons - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 26
Post by: Magnetica on 07 June, 2021, 09:37:47 AM
Winslade is great; Gibbons is a legend. It would have been great to have had more from him for longer in the Prog.


Winslade 2 : 3 Gibbons
Title: Re: Phil Winslade or Dave Gibbons - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 26
Post by: milstar on 07 June, 2021, 09:56:31 AM
You can't but not to love Dave

Dave 4
Phil 1
Title: Re: Phil Winslade or Dave Gibbons - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 26
Post by: Tomwe on 07 June, 2021, 10:11:07 AM
Phil Winslade - 3

Dave Gibbons - 2
Title: Re: Phil Winslade or Dave Gibbons - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 26
Post by: DrJomster on 07 June, 2021, 10:15:54 AM
This is really tricky. Dave's work is iconic, to be sure. Phil on the other hand is awesome! So, which is best? Tricky...

Dave 3, Phil 2 I think... but only because I'm not allowed 2.5, 2.5!
Title: Re: Phil Winslade or Dave Gibbons - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 26
Post by: The Mind of Wolfie Smith on 07 June, 2021, 11:00:57 AM
dave 3 - 2 phil
Title: Re: Phil Winslade or Dave Gibbons - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 26
Post by: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) on 07 June, 2021, 11:57:29 AM
Phil 3
Dave 2

SBT
Title: Re: Phil Winslade or Dave Gibbons - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 26
Post by: Dog Deever on 07 June, 2021, 06:32:54 PM
I like Dave Gibbons' work, but I love Phil Winslade's.
Winslade 4 Gibbons 1
Title: Re: Phil Winslade or Dave Gibbons - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 26
Post by: Rogue Judge on 07 June, 2021, 09:14:28 PM
Winslade 2 : Gibbons 3

Rogue Trooper or Lawless...two absolute favorite series. If I could own an original Rogue page, I'd pick Gibbons, but if I could have a commission from either,  I'd pick Winslade. Because of Rogue...Gibbons.
Title: Re: Phil Winslade or Dave Gibbons - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 26
Post by: paddykafka on 08 June, 2021, 06:15:28 PM
Winslade Wood (1)  Grimsby Gibbons F.C. (4)
Title: Re: Phil Winslade or Dave Gibbons - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 26
Post by: Colin YNWA on 09 June, 2021, 06:36:42 AM
This one is coming to a close - I think I can see which way its going but it can certainly change as its not been very busy so there may be plenty more votes to come in. If so get it done today and I'll count up in the morning.

As for me well I like Dave Gibbons work, I really do but I find it... safe... its comfortable, but it does excit or astonish me in the way other artist might. One such artist is Phil Winslade whose work on Lawless has just been astonishing. Its not just the intense detail he put into ever panel. Its the innovative page design, the evocative character work and the ground yet unworldly design of his world and the object and creatures that inhabitit it. Its the fact you can taste the dust in every panel. On that basis

Phil Winslade 4 : Dave Gibbons 1
Title: Re: Phil Winslade or Dave Gibbons - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 26
Post by: Colin YNWA on 10 June, 2021, 06:21:15 AM
VOTING CLOSED

Well no more votes came and so this one remained close, often in each vote as well as overall. But in the end Dave Gibbons pipped it and that is very significent. Classic Team are pipping a lot of these close ones of late and that means - along side storming another - they have completed the comeback and now nipped into the lead. Can they keep this momentum to the line and claim the Ryder Cup?


Current Team 12.5 : Classic Team 13.5

Current Team 1118 : Classic Team 1198*

*still need to check these!