The Political Thread

[Tjm86]

Summing up so far:
....

- Boris Johnson possibly new PM.

Where exactly are we on a scale of 1 to Screwed?

[ZenArcade]

Quote from: IndigoPrime on Today at 04:55:42 pm
Summing up so far:
....

- Boris Johnson possibly new PM.

Where exactly are we on a scale of 1 to Screwed?



11 . Z

[radiator]

Anyone got a screengrab of that panel of Dredd saying "Democracy is not for the people"? I need a new facebook profile pic.

[GordonR]

I am genuinely kicking myself for not trying to put money on the whole thing being blamed on Jeremy Corbyn - a man we've been told for the last month hasn't been doing anything, and yet is somehow also now responsible for what has happened.  A vote of No Confidence has been tabled by Margeret Hodge MP, who claims Corbyn didn't do enough for the Remain campaign... Hodge's constituency of Barking and Dagenham voted to Leave the EU by a majority of 63% - the highest in the UK.

63% was nowhere near the highest Leave result.  There were nine areas getting over 70%, and the 'winner' is Boston in Lincolnshire, with 75.6%

[The Legendary Shark]

Of course, it's not over yet by a long chalk - as this BBC report from June 6th suggests.

[Steve Green]

Can't imagine that will happen.

[Jim_Campbell]

There were nine areas getting over 70%, and the 'winner' is Boston in Lincolnshire, with 75.6%

Interestingly, I crunched the raw data on Boston a couple of years ago when they had a surprise swing to UKIP in some local elections. The swing was very much about immigration.

Boston does have a large immigrant population — about 10% according to the last census, almost all temporary workers doing seasonal agricultural labour.

What Boston doesn't have, is an unemployment problem. Its unemployment rate has traditionally run about half the national average for years. Assuming that the same proportion of migrants are unemployed as the general population (although, statistically, the percentage of migrants is likely to be lower) then the number of EU migrants claiming benefits in Boston was under 120. In a town of 60,000.

Additionally, there were only 1,800 unemployed people in Boston. Assuming they were all capable of doing back-breaking agricultural work, if you made all the migrant workers disappear, there'd be a shortfall of 4,000 and the crops would rot in the fields.

But, you know, foreigners...

[ZenArcade]

Can't imagine that will happen.

Well neither can I in the main.  I can however confidently predict the Hedgefunds and speculators have and will continue to make a killing...a wee bit like vultures and a half dead man. Z

[Professor Bear]

I was kind of hoping for an interesting Conservative leadership campaign, but the process doesn't seem to allow elbow room for dark horses, so it'll likely be a run between Ozzy, Bojo, and maybe Gove and May.  One of those will be our PM in time for Halloween.  Great times.

[GordonR]

http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_576d339be4b08d2c56391aca?edition=uk&

The news appears to back research which shows regions with the biggest votes for Leave are also the most economically dependent on the EU.

The great British - well, English and Welsh - electorate, ladies and gentlemen.

[sheridan]

Summing up so far:

- Sterling in freefall
- Billions wiped off of FTSE
- UK to lose top credit ratings
- Scotland and Northern Ireland likely to leave the UK
- US grimacing through it and saying through gritted teeth our relationship remains important
- EU desperate to kick off A50 and get rid of the UK as soon possible
- No open market access on the table
- Farage and others reneging on all promises made my Leave, from NHS funding to immigration stats

So 52% voted out for nothing. Worse, they voted to screw themselves.

Still, at least we settled that proxy battle for the direction of the Conservative Party, and got that socialist Corbyn out of the Labour hot seat!

The only crumb I'm clinging to is the EU showed its hand re open market suspiciously early. It does feel a bit like them bellowing "are you sure about this?" and giving the UK a chance to make this right. Either that, or they're so pissed off they want shot of us as soon as possible and hang the consequences.

Also - UK goes from fifth largest economy in world to sixth largest, within twelve hours of the result being declared.

[IndigoPrime]

Quite, which given the Leave lot banging on about FIFTH-BIGGEST ECONOMY throughout this campaign is rather ironic. What a mess.

Any of the few Leave voters here happy? Or are even you surprised at the massive shitstorm now ensuing?

[Steve Green]

Someone on twitter spotted that the guy in the blue shirt on the front page of the Sun celebrating Leave is a neo-nazi, posed in front of a Combat 18 banner etc.

He must be happy.

[Tjm86]

... so it'll likely be a run between Ozzy, Bojo, and maybe Gove and May.  One of those will be our PM in time for Halloween. 

So they finally found a way to make Halloween really scary then.

[Grugz]

I'm trying to get my head around all the "shitstorm"... we were governed by Europe who had a massive say in what we did and our economy and helped hundereds of criminals stay because of their human rights...
  all the majority of leavers are neo Nazis ,even the non white voters.
Now Scotland are talking about leaving the uk despite voting to stay in the last referendum knowing the leave remain vote was coming...
  in my simple mind I fail to see the difference in us wanting our independence form Europe and the scots wanting independence from the uk .
  would the usa accept a joining of the eu themselves and have brussels dictacting how to run there country? I doubt it.
  I doubt this will be the end of us as prophesised by the doom mongers ,yes it might be difficult during the transition as is any change but all the talk of financial ruin is silly, or did I imagine the last few years when,as a member state,we went into recession and had to cut massively to get out of it?  Did Europe give us financial help or did we have to manage on our own?
  And yes, we did manage ok before churchy signed us over ,we defeated the Nazi menace and had an actual empire for a wee bit before that...

and as the colossal sharky said earlier ,we voted for it in a democratic manner and the leave vote won.