Dredd (2012)

[Rusty]

They tried to do that with the Stallone film. It got an R anyway.

Wait, what...? It's an R? R's equivalent to an 18, right? Genuinely scratching my head at that one. Whenever I genuinely think of that film, it's more Disney than Robocop.

[Rusty]

Yeah, just checked. It's a 15, but still, a 15 these days is even hard to come by. Still baffling.

Oh, and I'm sure it's already been mentioned, but we really need an edit button.

[radiator]

R is the rough equivalent of a UK 15 - no one under the age of 17 admitted, unless accompanied by an adult.

NC-17 is the equivalent of a UK 18 - no one under 17 admitted full stop.

[Rusty]

R is the rough equivalent of a UK 15 - no one under the age of 17 admitted, unless accompanied by an adult.

NC-17 is the equivalent of a UK 18 - no one under 17 admitted full stop.

Ah, I see. I always assumed that the US R rating was a UK 18 or thereabouts. I don't think I've even heard a trailer that says "rated NC-17" in it.

[Tiplodocus]

I genuinely think you lot must be reading a different comic from me and SBT if you think you can't do a great DREDD story that doesn't have excessive gore (and sex or swearing). Like I say I liked what I saw but think they missed a trick by going for the 18.

[Jim_Campbell]

I genuinely think you lot must be reading a different comic from me and SBT if you think you can't do a great DREDD story that doesn't have excessive gore (and sex or swearing).

I don't think anyone has said that. All anyone has said is that they don't think it's incompatible with the comic version of Dredd to focus on the grimmer/dystopian aspects of the character at the expense of the absurdist comedy. The strip encompasses such a broad range of styles, it would be impossible to encapsulate them all within one movie, so picking one and focussing on it is a valid approach.

Cheers

Jim

[radiator]

R is the rough equivalent of a UK 15 - no one under the age of 17 admitted, unless accompanied by an adult.

NC-17 is the equivalent of a UK 18 - no one under 17 admitted full stop.

Ah, I see. I always assumed that the US R rating was a UK 18 or thereabouts. I don't think I've even heard a trailer that says "rated NC-17" in it.

Barely any films are rated NC-17 these days - it's regarded as the kiss of death.

Tips, I know a Dredd film doesn't HAVE to be bloody - what we're saying is that any Dredd film is going to run into problems thematically, and would likely end up getting a 15/R even if they tried to play it safe. Also, I'd personally be annoyed with a 12A Dredd, because I fucking hate 12A rated action films in general.

[Richmond Clements]

I think too, that no matter how unbloody you make it, when you have the two 'heroes' executing captured criminals and shooting people in the back, you're running into a ratings problem right there.

[MR. ELIMINATOR]

I don't think they could have effectively put across what a terrible place Mega City One would be to live in if it wasn't an 18. Even if you didn't think this was a good representation of Dredd (which it was) it was still a kick ass movie and will be well remembered because it's actually quite refreshing to see an action film that didn't make compromises to get more people to see it. Even though it's described as Ultra-Violent, I don't think it was actually that bad. Maybe it's because of CGI blood, but when people were talking about it before I had seen it I was expecting it to be worse.

[Rusty]

It's odd to complain about Dredd going the 18 rating route. It should be applauded and commended, rather than criticised. It was a brave thing to do, and give that Garland has an issue or two over the hypocrisy of the rating system, it was as if he was attempting a big "fuck you" to the establishment that dictates these often ridiculous ratings. What I mean is this: had Dredd been hugely successful, then it surely would have encouraged a lot of film makers to be more bold in making their films. It could have ushered in a brand new era in bringing back the old school ways of making action films, which were often very violent and extremely entertaining due to that fact. So Hollywood lost its balls in the action genre long ago, it took an indy project to show them how to remind them how to do it and be successful. It's just a pity it didn't turn out to be the success the studio was hoping for financially. I think it's safe to say that the old 80's style actioner is dead in the water now because of it.

[Rusty]

I think too, that no matter how unbloody you make it, when you have the two 'heroes' executing captured criminals and shooting people in the back, you're running into a ratings problem right there.

So how did Taken 2 get it's rating? There was plenty of killing in that.

[COMMANDO FORCES]

I think Dredd should've just shouted at the criminals and tried to get them to stop with threats of imprisonment! If only we had the bland DC/Marvel tosh that seems to go down well with the lobotomised masses and watered down the whole Dredd mythos, at least then it would've been amazing!
I was disgusted that we had a true to character portrayal on screen and was left fuming as Dredd and that female Judge (who was just a sex object) went about killing people who never really had a chance in finding their potential in life.

Disgusted of Maidstone!!!

[SmallBlueThing]

I think Dredd should've just shouted at the criminals and tried to get them to stop with threats of imprisonment! If only we had the bland DC/Marvel tosh that seems to go down well with the lobotomised masses and watered down the whole Dredd mythos, at least then it would've been amazing!
I was disgusted that we had a true to character portrayal on screen and was left fuming as Dredd and that female Judge (who was just a sex object) went about killing people who never really had a chance in finding their potential in life.

Disgusted of Maidstone!!!

Nice to see you talking sense at last, instead of your usual shite, ye big jesse!

SBT

[JOE SOAP]

The current episode of Dredd would be rated 18.

[A.Cow]

R is the rough equivalent of a UK 15 - no one under the age of 17 admitted, unless accompanied by an adult.
NC-17 is the equivalent of a UK 18 - no one under 17 admitted full stop.

To be honest, R is equivalent to both 15 and 18.  The excessively violent stuff tends to be viewed more lightly in the US.  On the other hand, pretty much anything with explicit sex & nudity is forced up to NC-17, which has become associated with pornography.  As I understand it, a lot of cinema chains refuse to show NC-17 movies; Blockbuster Video won't stock NC-17; and many US magazines & TV stations won't accept advertising for an NC-17 movie.

What it means, I suppose, is that the nearest to NC-17 in the UK is "R18", i.e. porn.