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Another great ABC cover:

Me likey - and I love the linked design of each ABC cover:

Looks like we're to get all the Warriors on the front cover but I wonder if they'll have to wait until Book 2 of the Volgan Wars? And where is Ro-Jaws? He was cool. Pat Mills should bring him back.

Cheers, Amstor - nicely done.

Rebellion should give serious consideration to releasing these as a poster set.

Lovely, and I agree on the little design touches.  They really do add something.

Volkhan is now clearly the new Warrior, with this series of covers finishing with his portrait and the others in the background.

Unfortunately means Kingdom's been made the runt of the litter. What was the last ten part story that didn't merit a single cover?

Oops. Here's how I know Stickleback isn't the poor relation.

***Volkhan is now clearly the new Warrior, with this series of covers finishing with his portrait and the others in the background. ***


Why not Zippo?

Love these Warrior covers, cant wait to see the art in the flesh, Prog2007 hits shelves down here this Friday!!!!1 :)

CU Radbacker

That Stickleback cover is aces.

Yeah, I thought Zippo would be the link here... although it would be great to have Ro-Jaws waiting for them...

'Wotcha Guv!'

A quick return home at lunchtime allowed me to get an early read of this week's prog... and what a corker it is.  Penultimate episodes for ABC Warriors, Stickleback and Kingdom, and a farewell to Dirty Frank, though.

The Cover is lovely.  Lining them up together as Amstor did above shows the thought that's gone into these, and they do look great, don't they?

Dredd continues nicely, and with the rookie clones flashback, this is almost like having Origins back.  The guilty / not guilty thing on the last page is intriguing.  What the heck's going on here?  Great stuff.

Stickleback continues to be the best thing in the prog for a long time.  As in Scarlet Traces, never be the guv's right hand man - you'll just end up sliced in half or with a trident between the shoulder blades.  Can't believe there's only one episode left, but this story definitely has great gangly legs, so hopefully a swift return is on the cards.  Fantastic stuff!

ABC Warriors was okay this week but the thrill of these repeat origin tales has worn off a little.  The highlight this week was Joe's N & V (even if he did miss).  Blackblood's looking great as well.  Good stuff.

Kingdom has been a really nice surprise and a great addition to the prog.  This could easily have been another non-thrill to be quickly forgotten, but I've enjoyed it immensely.  The Canine Cavalry turning up in the last frame was just fantastic.  All droids involved should get a pat on the head and a juicy bone.  Great stuff.

Low Life was over all too quickly, but it's been a welcome return for Dirty Frank and the art has been wonderful.  Will we see Judge Mortal again?  I hope so.  Great stuff.

All in all, another top prog - real rosy glow stuff here, folks.

Class Of '76

Richardson
Parr
Preece
Smith

Don't know how Judge Richardson has avoided the Titan trip

Top stuff - including that cover.

The Dredd's really got me interested and I can't fault any of the rest of the strips.

2000AD: making Mondays bearable!

- Trout

Joe never missed. That twattin' warrior pulled the targets head down just at the wrong time. Cannon fodder, they always get in the way!

great cover that's got to pick up a few newbies or old comebacks...

Damage report: 30 year archive on one shelf... has there been a mass clear out or a fire at Rebellion?

JD: what a loverly light touch that nice Mr Gibson's got, so much white, I'm reminded of when Steve Yeoll (sp) started taking things down to a minimum, great story too, nice to see a MkI again, now that's a Judge's gun.

Stickleback: Ah Joy! surely it can't be all tied up in one episode? unless our hero gets the chop and that's that.
I spy:
page 1, is that Kelly's Eye around his neck?
Page 2: Wickerman, Janus, The tarot handed man anymore?
Page 3 Harliquinn.
More please Thargy!! and soon.

ABC; A visual treat and nice to see the backstory of the Warriors and so little text! sgoodstuff

Kingdom: its sucked me in, the artwork suits the story and nice twist.

Dirty F: how good was that! 'Plague of zombies'LOL

Back page ad: anyone know this publication?

over all a really brilliant Prog, especially as it came in the same post as two nasty letters fi the bank

between the i's Huff

Thats the chap from Leviathan isnt it - the other symbol round his neck is the Leviathan symbol

Yup - that's Sir William Ashbless, and the pendant round his neck is indeed the Leviathan Eye. With the crossover between this strip and The Red Seas & D'Israeli's comments about a "greater Edginton-Verse", is it possible that this strip and Leviathan could crossover? I'm not sure of the dates for Leviathan, but I wouldn't be surprised if they coincided with Stickleback...

With the crossover between this strip and The Red Seas

What was that?

Was it The Jolly Cripple?  Or did I miss something else?

Yup, it was The Jolly Cripple (although I haven't checked D'Israeli's blog notes, so there may be something else I've missed...)

Back page ad: anyone know this publication?

Interzone? Yes. British SF mag, been going for about a hundred years. I've not picked one up for a while, but most issues used to have five or six short stories of variable quality and a stack of book reviews.

Another good Prog this week. I thought Low Life went downhill slightly but this has still been a cracking return for the series.

I've thought about writing something for them a number of times but always come to the conclusion that I just can't write prose.

"With the crossover between this strip and The Red Seas

What was that?"



Along with the pub, I think a picture of the Captain (canâ??t remember his name right now, Jack Dancer?) turns up behind Stickleback when you first see him.

Another good prog.  Not much more to add than before, maybe later.

Great prog again this week, 5 good strips.


Gibson's art is standout, with nice references to his "Acandemy" strips, though Dredd's Mk II lawgiver looks like a spud gun.

Never really made the link between the roll of honour and gibson.  'Doh!' as I believe the popular utterance goes.

I really adore Dizzy's work on Stickleback. Not one dull panel in there. The fella is cutting edge with b/w.

 Really feeling the characters and the world. Masterful story and editing too.

I think I'm the only person here who doesn't like Low Life.

The rest of the prog is great though.

I tihnk this latest Low Life story is the only new strip in recent memory to re-capture the humour of early 2000AD such as Robo-hunter.

What is it with Kingdom? It's just constant fighting of these ugly critters. That's it? Where is the story?

More to the point, why was there all that guff to begin with? The story (what exists of it) only got remotely interesting when the human came out of stasis. And he's an unlikable, fat little knob.

Oops, here are some more critters. Slashy slashy (repeat ad nauseum)!!

Yes it looks good, it's action packed, but poke around a little bit and the entire thing goes limp.

Pity, that.

Cover: even better in the flesh.

Dredd: I'm really into this story now. I've got a pretty good idea who I think the ghost judge is, but I'll keep schtum in case I ruin it for somebody else.  (Of course, I could also be wrong.)

Stickleback: I still don't get who the two guys at the start were - but that's probably intentional.  Very entertaining.  Very Sherlock Holmes with monsters.

ABC Warriors: I'm enjoying it tons, but I agree with those who criticise the art as being a bit too much at times, or the wrong size.  So much going on makes it difficult to see what is going on (at least, in some panels) - if you catch my drift.

Kingdom: I love this - it's been my favourite in the new line up for weeks now and it's still at the top.  Looks like the humans are f*cked, but the dog soldiers might inherit the Earth.  I knew that the two from the original group would return - but what will become of Gene?  Will he still be tougher and tough, top dog?  I like the relentless, characterless, insect enemy.  It really piles on the pressure - as a reader I never quite relax because I know it's inevitable that another attack will come.

Low Life: the end seemed a bit rushed in joining all the dots together, and there's a panel in there that's just daft (where the speech doesn't match what's happening), but overall it's been a great ride, and a bit of a laugh riot. Aimee who?

Excellent, excellent prog - top marks to Tharg and all the other creators.  

How often do we get five top thrills in a row?  

The only other 2000ad reader I see regularly is, oddly, the middle-aged man down the post office.

He's really upset Origins is on hiatus but is enjoying the replacement Dredds.

He freely admits he doesn't "get" any of the rest of the prog, and absolutely hates all the art on everything but Dredd.

It takes all kinds... ;-)

- Trout

The ghost judge is bound to be Rico's never before seen assessment officer. I bet he saw through Rico but took a boot to the jaffers and now seeks revenge via the Fargo bloodline

Kingdom has been most enjoyable and a surprisingly welcome addition to the prog. Richard Elson is one of my favourite artists and can mostly do no wrong...

mostly, because there's something about the last so-many episodes that i don't like at all (and unless i've missed something, no-one else has commented on)

Richard - please don't let anyone else colour in your work!!!! It's not bad, but not a patch on your own (and yes i know there were deadline problems, but it's a real shame nontheless)

i've not been 'getting' Stickleback recently (which is off because the art is fantastic), but last night i read all the past episodes in preparation for the pay-off, and yes it does indeed 'rock' (as the kids are wont to say)

thinky

Another decent prog - not world-shattering, but solid.

Dredd's fine, but considering it's the first Rennie strip in an age, it's a pity he's not continuing the whole Dredd soap opera arc. It's been too long since we heard from Vienna, Rico et al. Also, let's face it, it's not Origins.

Stickleback remains a shining star - pity it's not going to be around for much longer. It would appear that this is the first book of many - let's hope so.

I love Langley's rendering of the ABC Warriors themselves, but Volkhan looks a bit too much of a cumbersome gorilla, carting round that bloody great hammer and sickle all the time. I hope he's not going become the new Warrior - I would hope for more from a character than a catchphrase (especially one as dull as 'Beat! Beat! And beat again!'), but let's face it, that's been Mills' MO for years now, so I can't see that setting him back.

Kingdom has improved since the expository episodes, and it's solid and workmanlike, but unexceptional.

Lowlife is also hugely entertaining - Dirty Frank is one of the best characters to come out of 2000 AD and the Meg in years, knocking such wannabes as Jack Point into a cocked hat. Mortal's also a great addition to the Low Life pantheon.

Absolute stonker of a Prog, 5/5 winners for me.  

DREDD:  Gibson's best art in years, and a relevant story, even if the mystery has now been solidly explained.  Rennie's grasp of Dredd's world has never been surer, but I still worry that he relies too much on Dredd's supporting cast, something Wagner shies away from almost to a fault.    
ABC WARRIORS: A-1.  Straightforward fun.
KINGDOM:  I love this - a simple story, expertly told.  Gene is a superbly realised character and the art is fabulous.  I almost cheered out loud when the cavalry came over the hill.  Tougher and tough!
STICKLEBACK:  At  the end of the day, if 2000AD was 20 blank pages with just Stickleback in the middle, I'd consider it money well spent.  Continues to bowl me over with its utter greatness.  That last panel alone was genius distilled!  
LOW LIFE:  Funny to the end, and it even made sense!

Just a great mix of stories, all with totally individual styles of scipt and art, all doing totally different things successfully.  What 2000AD is all about.  

Oh, almost forgot.  As to the Ghost Judge in Dredd, he is, of course that Kenner bloke, but more to the point, I think we're about discover that the judge he 'executes' this week is a clone!

I'm not sure of the dates for Leviathan, but I wouldn't be surprised if they coincided with Stickleback...

As memory serves, Leviathan launched in 1925. So there's certainly time for Ashbless to get up to some silly shennanigans with the City Fathers before he goes off a-sailin'.

Correction: it was 1928 after all.

I'm with PVS on this ... the quality of the Prog has been excellent of late and the Origins 'interludes' aren't offending me as much as some round these parts.

Stickleback has been a joy and I hope that D'izzy at least hears about the positive noises emanating from this board, even if he's not reading them directly.

Cheers!

Jim

"Rennie's grasp of Dredd's world has never been surer, but I still worry that he relies too much on Dredd's supporting cast, something Wagner shies away from almost to a fault."

Rennie's Dredd stuff is so retrospective and predictable. On look, another story where Dredd meets Giant, Rico, Guthrie, Vienna, talks about the Apocalypse War, has a flashback, Yawn. The guy has got no imagination when it comes to Dredd. Not one jot of satire to his writing. Boring.

Actually, Rennie is a bit of a lazy writer when it comes to Dredd. All these flashback sort of things or taking old characters - it seems a lazy way to write Dredd. He did that South American Megazine Dredd story and that was quite good but too much is just taking stuff from Dredd's past and altering it a bit. Kazan Jnr being the worst example.  And 'Judgement' is another step into the past to find some easy enemy for Dredd to shoot.

I think he should retire from Dredd or go more radical and bring some satire into his strips. More stuff about the crazy life in M-C1, less about Dredd and his relationships with Guthrie et al.

I don't post that often anymore, and even less on the review threads. But that doesn't mean I don't keep pace with current posts and opinions therein.

I've got to agree that the quality of storytelling across-prog is excellent at the moment.

All that has to happen now is Rufus putting a page or two of his 'Streets Of Dan Fransisco' up for sale ;)

That and a (couple of?) hundred notes materialising from somewhere to make a purchase..

Stop spamming the board, "moonbeam".

Actually, Rennie is a bit of a lazy writer when it comes to Dredd.

I may not have IP evidence, but I'm afraid that's one MO too many for me to continue to let you post.

Oh thank god.

Can't we introduce some sort of anti-scojo captcha?

- pj

What's MO?

Modus operandi - or in this case, perhaps Moron's Observation?

It's weird this. Everytime I kill file someone they disappear from the board anyway.

Fear the eerie powers of the Bruntman...

Watch it Fishy...

Nooooooooooooo!
;-)

Thankgodthankgodthankgod.

Ding dong the witch is dead!

For the FIRST TIME EVER...I'm really glad that someone has been banned...

"I may not have IP evidence, but I'm afraid that's one MO too many for me to continue to let you post."

Oh, thank fuck for that! Once again, Wake, waves of big, manly, heterosexual love coming from this corner of the board.

I've been largely offline during the great migration-to-the-broadband-convergence-home-entertainment-system and had started to wonder whether I'd missed some kind of memo about allowing Mongo back onto this board.

In fact, I'd adopted a "step back" attitude, wondering whether he'd still fuck up without me wading in and calling him a snivelling little cunt (or something similar!) ... and - lo and behold! - it really is some kind of psychological problem with him.

Oh, well.

By the way, that's ten weeks tomorrow without a cigarette for me.

I'd just like you all to know that I'm in Hell.

Cheers

Jim

Stick with it, Jim. You're doing great!

"Stick with it, Jim. You're doing great!"

What? With the not smoking, or the not calling Mongo a snivelling little cunt?

Cheers!

Jim

Congrats Jim, how's the home system? Eveything working?

Bolt-01

'In fact, I'd adopted a "step back" attitude'

that's how I feel about such board posters

Good luck with the smokefree zone Jim!

Huffski

Both, I suppose, although I was thinking of the smoking.

- Trout

I took it that after his attentions had totally wrecked the ng (even more than I thought was possible) it was too poisonous even for him, and he snuck back on here somehow.

Maybe it wasn't him, but it was a good impression if not.

- Steve

My technique also as I find it too unpleasant when the name calling starts...

Give benefit of doubt.

Then ignore/step back.

Then killfile.