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Devlin Waugh in the prog
« on: 25 January, 2021, 08:37:32 AM »
I never knew that Devlin Waugh had a run in the prog. How good is it and is it worth getting the Devlin Waugh Swimming in Blood graphic novel containing these stories?
Old age is the Lord’s way of telling us to step aside for something new. Death’s in case we didn’t take the hint.

The pen is mightier than the sword if the sword is very short, and the pen is very sharp.

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Re: Devlin Waugh in the prog
« Reply #1 on: 25 January, 2021, 10:10:24 AM »
Compared to the possessed dildo shite running in the meg for the past year?
It's a different dimension.

Compared to the original Swimming in Blood story?
Not as good.

I don't own them, but I believe the 2000AD Devlin Waugh series was collected in Hachette hardbacks too.

As a general rule, you can't go wrong if John Smith's name is attached.


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Re: Devlin Waugh in the prog
« Reply #2 on: 25 January, 2021, 10:15:55 AM »
Yes, over the years I have realized how we miss his writing. He has such a unique voice and eccentric
 characters. I will get the collection not only for his writing but also for Steve Yeowell's art
Old age is the Lord’s way of telling us to step aside for something new. Death’s in case we didn’t take the hint.

The pen is mightier than the sword if the sword is very short, and the pen is very sharp.

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Re: Devlin Waugh in the prog
« Reply #3 on: 25 January, 2021, 10:29:17 AM »
I will get the collection not only for his writing but also for Steve Yeowell's art

I didn't appreciate Yeowell's art at the time, it was such a departure from some of the lushly painted artwork that graced the series previously.
I re-read it a few years later and it clicked. Well worth picking up.


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Re: Devlin Waugh in the prog
« Reply #4 on: 25 January, 2021, 10:32:05 AM »
This would be the Herod storyline, yes?

If so then definitely worth picking up. Proper 'big screen' thrillage.

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Re: Devlin Waugh in the prog
« Reply #5 on: 25 January, 2021, 11:56:12 AM »
I'm a big fan of this storyline and it forms a backbone throughout the year 1999 in the Prog, a year that is one of my all time fav years in Thrillpower.

I blathered on about it a bit in my recent(ish) re-read of it

https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=43337.msg1005481#msg1005481

Highly recommended.

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Re: Devlin Waugh in the prog
« Reply #6 on: 25 January, 2021, 12:02:14 PM »
I thought it was relentlessly grim at the time. It has a very different feel from Swimming in Blood. But I also think it’s a very good story that’s definitely work owning. If you can find the Hachette HCs, that’s a good way to have those strips, but the Rebellion volumes are also very good.

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Re: Devlin Waugh in the prog
« Reply #7 on: 25 January, 2021, 12:55:05 PM »
Compared to the possessed dildo shite running in the meg for the past year?
It's a different dimension.

On the other hand, I've enjoyed the Aleš Kot stories. Which just goes to prove....something.

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Re: Devlin Waugh in the prog
« Reply #8 on: 25 January, 2021, 01:21:04 PM »
I though the Kot stories did well in capturing the general vibe of Waugh. I wasn’t so convinced by McConville’s efforts, which seemed desperate to unnecessarily wrap up long-running mysteries within that universe that would have been better left alone.

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Re: Devlin Waugh in the prog
« Reply #9 on: 25 January, 2021, 01:27:19 PM »
I also do not have  an issue with Kot's Devlin. Unfortunately McConville's take was not that great. The reality is that Devlin and Indigo is John Smith.
Old age is the Lord’s way of telling us to step aside for something new. Death’s in case we didn’t take the hint.

The pen is mightier than the sword if the sword is very short, and the pen is very sharp.

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Re: Devlin Waugh in the prog
« Reply #10 on: 25 January, 2021, 01:28:57 PM »
The Herod story was brilliant, one of the best things 2000AD has published. Definitely get it.

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Re: Devlin Waugh in the prog
« Reply #11 on: 25 January, 2021, 01:56:58 PM »
Agreeing with everyone else here in that the Herod story is fantastic and everyone interested in 2000ad should read it.
I sometimes feel like I might be the only person who disliked Swimming in Blood. The idea and horror aspects are cool, but there was a tendency for it to follow the sequence of 'background character meeting a sticky end, to which Waugh says something flippant like 'Pip pip old fellow, most unfortunate, can't wait until we get out of this and have some jam scones', repeat' until the cast is wiped out, and Devlin himself comes across as a one-note joke. It's been a while since I read it, but at the time I couldn't stand it.
By the time the Herod stuff comes around though he's brilliant.

On the new stuff - I like the Kot stuff, didn't like the McConville.
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Re: Devlin Waugh in the prog
« Reply #12 on: 25 January, 2021, 02:08:45 PM »
I always saw SIB as the zippy Hollywood movie, but Herod as a horrifying multi-season take on the character.

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Re: Devlin Waugh in the prog
« Reply #13 on: 25 January, 2021, 02:09:15 PM »
...I sometimes feel like I might be the only person who disliked Swimming in Blood...

Yes, yes you are - I'd put a cheeky / winkie emoticon on this but I don't want to be seen to sugarcoat this!

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Re: Devlin Waugh in the prog
« Reply #14 on: 25 January, 2021, 02:15:25 PM »
Thx all, I will ensure that my next open reading slot I will give Herod a go.
Old age is the Lord’s way of telling us to step aside for something new. Death’s in case we didn’t take the hint.

The pen is mightier than the sword if the sword is very short, and the pen is very sharp.