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: John Higgins or John Ridgway - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 25
: Colin YNWA 04 June, 2021, 06:31:36 AM
Tharg’s longest serving Art Droid besides Brendan McCarthy (I believe) - his first work was the cover of Prog 43 has shown with the recent Dreadnaughts that even 44 years under Tharg’s yoke can’t stop true talent. It took a hard draw against Finalist D’Israeli to topple him in the first round of the Current Tourney too.

Mind no draw was as hard as John Ridgway’s in the first round of either tourney as he got Carlos and so we don’t have a reliable guide to the form of either of these two. So who will win this battle of the Simons Johns?

Time for you to decide your favourite as the droids square up to the tee…

John Higgins - more info (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=droid&page=profiles&choice=johnh)

OR

John Ridgway - more info (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=droid&page=profiles&choice=JOHNR)

Remember for this tourney you have 5 votes to distribute as you please between these two artists, whole numbers only. So you can vote 5 - 0; 4 - 1; or 3 - 2; either way depending on how much more you like one artist's work over the other.

If you can’t be doing with that just name your favourite - remember bold tags, or other ways of highlighting always appreciated - and I’ll give them 3 votes and nowt to the other droid.

Three day votes, so this one ends morning of Monday 7th June

Remember we only consider work for Tharg in these Tourneys

What the heck is all this about - well we have a thread for that (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47534.0)

How does this new voting work?  Look here (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47534.msg1059536#msg1059536) and why again? (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47534.msg1059557#msg1059557)

I don’t understand how this works, what are the rules of the Ryder Cup - yep got ya covered there too (https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=47534.msg1059595#msg1059595)

Anything else just ask and I’ll make something up. Most importantly have fun!
: Re: John Higgins or John Ridgway - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 25
: rogue69 04 June, 2021, 08:36:28 AM
John Higgins 3 - 2 John Ridgway
: Re: John Higgins or John Ridgway - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 25
: Magnetica 04 June, 2021, 09:10:43 AM
Higgins 5 nil
: Re: John Higgins or John Ridgway - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 25
: AlexF 04 June, 2021, 09:21:24 AM
Ridgway 4, Higgins 1 - can't deny Higgins' excellence but Ridgway's scratchy thick pen lines are just my thing, y'know?

Curious to think that both geniuses have worked on contenders for worst thrills of all time, Junker & Greysuit...
: Re: John Higgins or John Ridgway - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 25
: paddykafka 04 June, 2021, 09:34:27 AM
Higgins* Orient FC (5) Ridgway Wanderers (0)

*John's "Er...Democracy?" cover for Tooth, stands out for me as one of my all-time faves, to say nothing of his incredible work on some of the Democracy stories.
: Re: John Higgins or John Ridgway - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 25
: JayzusB.Christ 04 June, 2021, 09:56:50 AM
Higgins 3, Ridgeway 2.

Ridgeway was absolutely perfect for Summer Magic and The Dead Man, but Higgins was a snooker player of the highest level.
: Re: John Higgins or John Ridgway - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 25
: abelardsnazz 04 June, 2021, 10:05:07 AM
John H has drawn some magnificent Dredds over the years. I can't imagine anyone creating the atmosphere of The Dead Man quite like John R, plus there's Luke Kirby, Twister, Dice Man...

John Higgins 2, John Ridgway 3.
: Re: John Higgins or John Ridgway - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 25
: milstar 04 June, 2021, 10:31:15 AM
Uh... Is Colin trying to repent for pushing Richard Elson against Carlos, now giving maybe the most difficult voting so far? I love Higgins' Dredd and color ing on Watchmen and The Killing Joke, but Ridgway was brilliant on Hellblazer and his issues on Dredd.

Gotta go with
Ridgway 3
Higgins 2
: Re: John Higgins or John Ridgway - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 25
: Tomwe 04 June, 2021, 10:45:24 AM
John Higgins - 2

John Ridgway - 3
: Re: John Higgins or John Ridgway - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 25
: broodblik 04 June, 2021, 10:58:08 AM
John vs John

Higgins 3 Ridgway 2
: Re: John Higgins or John Ridgway - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 25
: Dog Deever 04 June, 2021, 11:01:49 AM
Ridgway 3 Higgins 2
: Re: John Higgins or John Ridgway - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 25
: The Mind of Wolfie Smith 04 June, 2021, 01:48:54 PM
5-0 to jr
: Re: John Higgins or John Ridgway - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 25
: DrJomster 04 June, 2021, 02:19:25 PM
Ridgeway 3 Higgins 2

Close-ish but Mr R is the winner in my books. Dead Man and Kirby were very strong, very strong indeed. Dreadnoughts recently had the odd panel that threw me a bit. We’re lucky to have both of them though, don’t get me wrong.
: Re: John Higgins or John Ridgway - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 25
: SmallBlueThing(Reborn) 04 June, 2021, 04:01:27 PM
Ridgway 4
Higgins 1

SBT
: Re: John Higgins or John Ridgway - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 25
: Funt Solo 04 June, 2021, 05:00:37 PM
Ridgway 3 Higgins 2

Same for me, please.

I'm a big fan of both, but I have a soft spot for Raggedy Man Ridgway's work.
: Re: John Higgins or John Ridgway - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 25
: Funt Solo 04 June, 2021, 06:10:00 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5QQUn0eZ_B8/V4kxq8A-avI/AAAAAAAAFGE/6a57fuQSufIxlj3J5kS2oIDicv5ZkVlvwCK4B/s1600/Raggedy%2BMan.JPG)
: Re: John Higgins or John Ridgway - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 25
: TordelBack 05 June, 2021, 01:40:12 PM
Two more legends.

Higgins carved out a milestone in the vast cityscapes of the Democracy storyline, and possibly the best ever colour art in an Annual in Message from Marta etc, and is on absolutely flying form on Dreadnoughts currently.

But even so, I think little will ever top The Dead Man, Alzheimer's Block and Summer Magic in my affections.

So it's Ridgway 3 : 2 Higgins.
: Re: John Higgins or John Ridgway - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 25
: Rogue Judge 05 June, 2021, 07:33:35 PM
John Higgins 3 : John Ridgway 2

Tough call...I could go either way, both fantastic.

Higgins Dredd and painted works are a thing of beauty...but if I could own a single page from either of these two, it would be from The Dead Man.
: Re: John Higgins or John Ridgway - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 25
: Colin YNWA 06 June, 2021, 07:12:03 AM
Last day and this one is turning into a vital tussle in the overall tourney as we enter the last full week and I think(?) its close. Get any last minute votes in they may change things.

So to my vote...hmmm.. tough one this but much as I love John Higgins work on Dredd and his recent turn on Dreadnaughts I can't look past The Dead Man and those early Summer Magic series so I have to go to the wide eyes and brutalised children:

John Higgins 2 : John Ridgway 3
: Re: John Higgins or John Ridgway - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 25
: Colin YNWA 06 June, 2021, 07:15:06 AM
Oh and I've just counted up in prep for the morning and it is VERY close so any last minute votes will almost certainly change things!
: Re: John Higgins or John Ridgway - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 25
: I, Cosh 06 June, 2021, 03:52:09 PM
Ridgway - 19. 19. N-n-n-n-nineteen. Oh, wait...

A big bout on the face of things: The Dead Man faces off against the Last of the Bad Guys.

My initial reaction here is a whitewash for Higgins. However, I realise that a lot of my love for his work is about the colours. That palette of greens, pinks and oranges that nobody else dares to use. Which isn't all his own work.

Ridgway has his own very different, very atmospheric style but apart from The Dead Man and The Raggedy Man I'm not sure I really love anything else. I even prefer Steve Parkhouse's take on Luke Kirby.

Higgins 4 - 1 Ridgway
: Re: John Higgins or John Ridgway - Artists Ryder Cup Current vs Classic - Tie 25
: Colin YNWA 07 June, 2021, 06:37:23 AM
VOTING CLOSED

Well well well. This one was interesting Jiohn Higgins burst into a decent early lead but then John Ridgway slowly pulled it back and eventually pulled slightly ahead. A miss out on my part had it as a tie going into the last day and so I thought Cosh's vote had carried Ridgway across the line BUT no I spotted my error and by another narrow margin John Ridgway takes this.

Overall two very narrow victories, this one and Glenn Fabry's over Clint Langley might ultimately decide this tourney? As we go into the last full week Classic Team have done the hard work and pulled back level.

Current Team 12.5 : Classic Team 12.5

Current Team 1082 : Classic Team 1159*

*still need to check these!