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Feck, not sure if I can handle 100 hours of the cartoon. Then again, January is going to be quiet...

I tried but I couldn't get into it. Then again I'm not really into cartoons.

Thanks for sharing that, it's a good read.

He's wrong about the new Eagle version though, that was the worst thing its writers ever did, and it deserves its obscurity.

He's not wrong Richard. In fact you are wrong Richard.

The picture in Solo was so dark, could anyone really say that was him?

Yes it was him. Sadly

But which one.

The saga is not yet finished ...

Oh god, please no.

I'm going to stick my oar in here and just let people know that screenshots of this thread are being displayed in at least one other forum on the internet. Namely the 2000ad subforum on gallifreybase.com, and specifically Gordon Rennies words about Pat Mills.

Might be an idea to keep that in mind.

SBT

So what?

I'm still pretty sore with Pat from that recent sharing he did of John Sanders letter that (albeit rudely) offered a gateway into regaining creator rights. 

While it painted Sanders in a poor light, I was much more alarmed by the fact that Pat did no seize on it as his "in".  Get Alan Moore back his rights, set the precedent, get yours - not rocket science surely?  All Pat could see was how it was "setting creators against each other"  -only if you let them, Pat!

So true, for all Pat's complaints about creator rights & how creators should not have their characters/stories done by other people he really means HIS rights.

Apart from anything else, kids are reading comics. They're just not reading the same kind of comics or in the same format as previous generations. I hope Spacewarp works out, but is it really for kids?

But didn't he claim it was for kids? When someone like Pat has been so instrumental & important in the world of British comics it must be frustrating to find that you are no longer relevant. That's what it feels like to me anyway. It happens to most important creative people, it all depends on how you deal with it either with dignity or the way Pat is doing it.

I think Spacewarp hasn't been quite the success he hoped for. What kids are going to buy a £10 b & w comic?

I think the basic aim of Spacewarp was fine, but something got lost along the way—mostly due to reality. One of the key problems of modern comics is accessibility, not the actual content. Mills appears wrapped up in this 1970s view of subversive counter-culture, but there are other ways to get ideas across. There's a blog post Mills wrote a while back, talking about his new comic being available for pocket-money prices in digital:

The print price is likely to be £8, although this is something we're still thinking about, because we want it to be financially viable for the artists. So it may be a little higher, particularly if we end up with more than 36 pages of strip art.

The digital edition will be priced much lower, so it falls within a kid's pocket money range. Feedback from our beta readers agreed that many kids will happily read on their tablet or phone.

Well, that didn't happen, presumably because the comic expanded in size and costs need to be recouped. So now it's seven quid in digital and a tenner in print, for 66 pages. That's not a bad value proposition per se, but it does align the comic with everything else that's currently out there, rather than differentiating it on content AND accessibility. And that leaves the question: who is this for? If you're aiming away from the middle class comics crowd, how does that work when your product costs so much money?

A lot has changed since I bought 2000AD regularly but I remember how accessible comics used to be before comic book shops took over. I know Mills has talked a lot about going for the young audience, but maybe it just isn't there. I think kids will run to the latest Marvel movie or play the latest Marvel game but will they buy the comics? I think it is basically a medium mainly for older audiences & even with Mills' best intentions it was never really going to work. Who knows it even exists apart from 2000AD fans, who may buy it for themselves rather than their kids. Mills will never say he is wrong, so maybe all this rage is his frustration at the failure misdirected.

The forum is cancelling Pat Mills?  It must be a Tuesday.

No it isn't cancelling him.

Yeah its being discussed over at the Forthcoming Thrills - 2021 thread (for some reason?)
https://forums.2000ad.com/index.php?topic=46806.0

Lots of folks in agreement with you alas - not alas they agree, alas they thing Uncle Pat isn't coming across well at all. We owe him so much and he's a fine storyteller when on form, but this isn't reflecting well on him.

I think Spacewarp hasn't been quite the success he hoped for. What kids are going to buy a £10 b & w comic?

Pat Mills oh dear. Is he unwell? I also wonder if Spacewarp isn't quite the success he hoped & he's now lashing out as some bizarre form of publicity. Whatever the reason sad to see all this & very hard to defend his rants.

Too expensive

Pat Mills appears to be losing the plot a bit on twitter now.

sorry too expensive

What a great start to the new season.

[spoiler]Is it Boba though? Or a surviving clone trooper?[/spoiler]