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: PROG 1810: RoBusters The Disaster Squad of Distinction - Assemble
: Tjm86 17 November, 2012, 12:03:00 PM
Wurble, Wurble Skulp!

Score out of 10:  are you kidding?  out of a measly 10!

Ok so maybe this should have been renamed the Judge Dredd Megazine with heavy emphasis on the MEG!  Dredd shoots straight out of the gates with a story jump that leaves you breathless.  I'm seriously considering starting a Downing Street petition for Messrs Flint and Ewing on this one.  And that ending ..... 

Low Life.  D'israeli is perfect for the mania that is Dirty Frank and the comedy genius!   "Well, Drirty Frank didn't see THAT coming!"

Simping Detective proves that Simon Coleby is the perfect successor to Frazer Irving on this strip.  Love the subtle use of colour.  "More guilt'n a Catholic contraceptive."  Superb!

ABC Warriors bringing us full circle to the early days of Starlord.  Ok so Mr Mills is letting his political colours show as usual and can't resist the opportunity to swipe at British Colonial History but I think we can forgive him his usual lack of subtlety in light of everything else he has done for us over the years.  Much prefer Mr Langley's art on this.  Although it is rougher it is far more suited to the comic strip narrative than his CGI work.  Although I wouldn't say no to the odd double splash page.  Perhaps a resurrection of the old colour centre pages?

Brass Sun crawls inexorably on.  Looking forward to reading this in full.  Perhaps if it had not been crammed in against everything else this prog it might have shone far more brightly.  That said, still an excellent read.

I am now going to go and have a lie down as this sort of standard is a little overwhelming!
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: The Amstor Computer 17 November, 2012, 12:24:51 PM
Only read Dredd so far, so quickly skipping any spoilers above!

Great episode of Dredd, though - my suspicions about the title ("The Cold Deck", indeed) prove true, but Al keeps it barreling along and he and Flint serve up a fantastic final panel.

Looking forward to reading the link-in strips later, and seeing what's going in ABCs... :-)
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: vzzbux 17 November, 2012, 12:38:49 PM
If the outcome in Dredd goes through with Bachmann's plans then the Justice dept dies. Plain and simple.




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: Jim_Campbell 17 November, 2012, 12:45:13 PM
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: Tjm86 17 November, 2012, 02:05:16 PM
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pretty much how I felt!
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: oshii 17 November, 2012, 04:52:48 PM
I do like the way Flint is drawing Dredd's helmet with a deep gouge in it, a bit like the film.  It looks brilliant.
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: Darren Stephens 17 November, 2012, 05:51:45 PM
No prog yadda yadda moan groan......   :(   :D
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: Trout 17 November, 2012, 06:08:24 PM
It's all great. No more detail is necessary.
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: The Monarch 17 November, 2012, 08:45:43 PM
I gotta say if Mister Wagner decided to retire and Mr Ewing would be his sucessor on Dredd I really would not have a problem with that...seriously
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: Beaker 17 November, 2012, 10:23:26 PM
I've not read the prog yet....I can't stop staring at the cover.

Just awesome.
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: Trout 17 November, 2012, 11:36:11 PM
Dirty Frank: "Evidence. Yum."
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: Colin YNWA 18 November, 2012, 07:56:50 AM
All good as has been the case of late. Not really much to say just loving the Prog. Even the Great Mr Mills slightly heavy handed return to Colonial politics was entertaining... BUT, BUT... am I being a dumb ass but I'm not sure I fully got the first two pages of Simping Detective. Why did the the assassin religie Judge type purse when DeMarco 'ring'? Was he just curious about what she would say? Also when he thrusts the blade through the blokes neck there seems to be blood coming from his arm. What am I missing?

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: Eamonn Clarke 18 November, 2012, 09:19:08 AM
I gotta say if Mister Wagner decided to retire and Mr Ewing would be his sucessor on Dredd I really would not have a problem with that...seriously

Agreed. The Heir apparent if John Wagner is serious about retiring
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: JUDGE BURNS 18 November, 2012, 09:52:41 AM
AWESOME......THE LAST PANEL ON DREDD WILL KEEP ME ON EDGE UNTIL NEXT WEEKS PROG ARRIVES THROUGH THE MAIL BOX..

Brilliant stuff.
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: JUDGE BURNS 18 November, 2012, 09:55:08 AM
Oh and I forgot to mention the fantastic cover of Ro-Busters.  Reminds me of the time when 2000AD was joined with Starlord, way back in the 70's
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: chuffsteruk 18 November, 2012, 10:24:18 AM
It's all kicking off! :lol:
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: A.Cow 18 November, 2012, 01:39:26 PM
BUT ... BUT ... BUT ....

Nobody has yet mentioned the teaser for Prog 2013 -- with Tharg wearing Dan Dare's glove, er, gauntlet thingy!!!!
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: vzzbux 18 November, 2012, 01:46:59 PM
Klegg in the door made me laugh. Good use of the X for the eye.



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: Dark Jimbo 18 November, 2012, 03:32:37 PM
Dredd - Blimey! It's Prog 1749 all over again! This is just... just... there are no superlatives to do justice to this arc.

ABC Warriros - I inwardly groaned when Pat mentioned this imminent fight on his blog a few weeks back, but in context it actually works really well in what has, after all, been quite a politicised outing from the get-go. Nice to find out who that 'Dedan' bloke actually was after all this time and it acts as a nice 'coda' to Hammerstein's successful mission. The Mau-mau stuff does feel a bit shoehorned in, as though Pat was reading a book about it at the time and was determined to make us aware, but I can let that go. This is probably because Mek-Quake is in it this week, as usual getting all the best lines, and he's my fave character from Tharg's stable, so I'm feelin' especially charitable.
[continuitynerd]So if Quartz robotics now made Hammerstein and Mek-Quake... does that mean that those two are no longer made by Rover and Ford, respectively? Has that been completely retconned, or is there a case to be made that Rover and Ford could have since been bought up by, and become subsidaries of, Quartz's empire?[/continuitynerd]

Low Life - Great stuff.

Brass Sun - The wheels are starting to come off a bit now with some of the laziest writing yet (though the art maintains the quality of previous weeks). Panels 1 and 2 and Steerpike - sorry, Ramkin - is understandably scornful of our hero's bizarre story. 'Do I look like a child to you? Do you think me so gullible? Life on other worlds? A tramway through the stars?' He's no less contemptous come panel 4, saying that Wren could be any manner of denzien from anywhere in his world. 'But we're not,' she says. And that's as much as it takes to sway him. Panel 5 - 'Then take me with you when you leave.'
It's a really unnatural exchange, and just feels as though Edginton's hurriedly trying to get his ducks in order before the end of the strip next week and build Wren a wacky supporting cast as quickly as possible. I forsee quite a bit of this every time they go to a new world - 'You're not from here? Cool, take me with you.' I mean, this guy's just come face to face with - to all intents and purposes - alien life! He's just had the existence of other worlds confirmed! That's massive! If it happened to me I'd like to think the exchange would be a bit more lively than 'Hi, we're aliens from another planet.' 'Really? Because you just look like humans.' 'We're not.' 'Great. Take me with you.'
I think I'd have liked to have seen the drama on Wren's world play out over the course of the whole first book really, culminating in the reveal of the spar/orrery reveal and the setting-up of her quest. I wanted to know more about her Grandfather and the Archimandrite and the cog-worshipping religion, which was all really interesting and could have had legs. I understand the rush to show a variety of different worlds as soon as possible but in trying to hook readers I think overall it's suffered a bit for that. The weak link for me this week.

Simping Detective - Hmm. Love this strip, but it always staggers a bit when Demarco's in it. Her declaration of love rings a bit insincerely given that the two characters have shared very little actual panel time together in this or previous adventures. I can see why Jack would fall for her, but why would she be so head over heels for him? That aside it's good stuff, and Coleby continues to play a blinder. Been great to have Jack back after too long away.
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: Fisticuffs 19 November, 2012, 03:09:12 PM
6 weeks into my subscription and this is the first time I haven't had the prog by 10am saturday morning. Shame, but if it's only late 1 week in every 7 I'll be happy. :)
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: Kerrin 19 November, 2012, 08:51:28 PM
Dirty Frank didn't see that coming? Well I did. But then I'm a smartarse.

Great prog!

Oh, and according to Ian Culbard, Brass Sun is going to be a massively long story with Dizzy taking over art duties in the second book.
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: Colin YNWA 19 November, 2012, 08:59:46 PM

Oh, and according to Ian Culbard, Brass Sun is going to be a massively long story with Dizzy taking over art duties in the second book.

He also said that he'd then be back for the third book WAYHEY!
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: Kerrin 19 November, 2012, 09:07:42 PM
Cool!

Great to see you Saturday Colin. Roll on the next one!
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: Dodsy 20 November, 2012, 12:50:15 PM
Picked this up early (and very cheaply) at Thoought Bubble but only had chance to read Dredd so far. Top stuff, can't believe I'm having to wait over a week to find out what happens though. I'm really going to have to get a subscription.
Am I also right in thinking that at least ABC Warrors and Brass Sun must be ending next week? If 1812 is a complete Dredd story (and by the looks of these past weeks Point and Frank might be turning up) and the week after would be the end of year special.
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: Fisticuffs 20 November, 2012, 08:00:22 PM
Mine finally turned up. And WOW Dredd has kicked up a gear, fanastic stuff, and a brilliant final panel. Also loved the bottom left panel of Dredd on his Lawmaster, with his lower head hidden by his arm, looks totally badass.

Must say I prefer the Simp' depiction of the Black Ops personnel to the fly-eyed ones from Dredd, but it's a minor quibble.
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: Mardroid 21 November, 2012, 12:35:08 AM
I was a tad confused by the blurb on the on the main site concerning this Prog. You have a big cover of the Ro-busters team... then no menton of ABC Warriors inside. Instead there's a bit about Grey Area.

From this thread, I take it that's an error? (Don't mind me, I buy the Prog on Friday the digital route. No need to answer really as I'll find out then...)
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: Mardroid 21 November, 2012, 12:36:58 AM
What I'm referring to above. (http://www.2000adonline.com/prog/1810)

Guess that should be in the web/errors section really (if it's not already) but it's not big deal.
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: a chosen rider 21 November, 2012, 12:40:10 PM
Cover - Love it.  Amazing colours!

Dredd - Called it about the list swap!  Love the "Never underestimate Mega-City One" line; I feel like that encapsulates something very important about Dredd and his philosophy.  One of the key differences between him and so many other Judges is that he never feels contempt for the citizens the way that others do - he may not particularly like them, but he never dismisses them as beneath his attention.  Credit to art and writing both here that you hardly even really notice it's a "talking heads" episode for much of it.  There are some great faces pulled by Bachmann and Estrella as the revelations come out.  And damn, what an ending!  Top stuff.

ABC Warriors - Feel like this is starting to outstay its welcome a tad.  Last week's ending felt like a strong finish to tie back into Ro-Busters; this episode seems like it's mostly an excuse to infodump some politics without revealing anything particularly new or necessary about the past.  Some nice Mek-Quake art, though.

Low Life - Frank's face in the "Evidence, yum," panel.  Awesome.  Love that he seems to be getting such a kick out of doing Judge stuff here: you can actually see how he could kinda function as a uniformed Judge, unlike Point, who you just can't picture in that role at all.  (Well, I can, actually, but it's as exactly the kind of corrupt Judge who gets busted by Dredd and sent to the cubes.)  Also love the twist in suddenly making the fact Overdrive has a shark head go from comedy to actually quite menacing.  And another great ending - definitely a sense of everything ramping up towards the big finale in this prog.

Brass Sun - Maybe it's just that the Dreddverse stuff is so good, but I'm sorry to say I'm kinda losing patience with this.  It's still beautiful to look at, but I feel like the story's just moving and moving without actually progressing.  Things happen, stuff is introduced, but I don't get much of a sense that it's going anywhere fast.

Simping Detective - Gah, bad start.  Sorry, I want to love this series, and I mostly do, but the depiction of DeMarco is so far from the Wagner character I fell in love with that I have to chant "Unreliable narrator, unreliable narrator" to myself every time she appears on the page.  Really disheartening to see my absolute favourite supporting character get stamped into a cliché noir dame role that doesn't fit her.  :(  ...Anyway, moving on from that wrench in the narrative works: nice tie-back to Folger, and a clever way for Point to figure out how to break his brainwashing.  Great use of colour in this strip again.  And excellent unexpected twist with the sleep machines - who do we know who's exposed to those more than anybody else?

More gripes with individual strips than last week, but all strands of the Dreddverse story are on fire.  ...Is it time for prog 1811 yet?
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: Goaty 21 November, 2012, 03:59:34 PM
Sorry but what the hell gonna on in Simping Detective?

Dredd & Low Life = Perfect.
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: Spikes 21 November, 2012, 05:11:30 PM
Not been back home long so only had chance to read Dredd.

STOMM, DROKK, UNFF! and indeed, BLAM x 4 I need to put aside a quiet moment and re-read all this..

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: MercZ 21 November, 2012, 07:20:28 PM
Some of the issues I've had with the prog have been mentioned in previous posts so I won't bloat mine with it. I'll just say that while I enjoyed the other stories I'm more eagerly waiting to see what's happening in Dredd's world than where the other two are heading towards. 
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: thejudgemuffin 21 November, 2012, 07:41:39 PM
Ok so here is something that came to me.,,this is like one of the biggest disasters to befall MC1 if not the biggest (another discussion for another time)....the kind of disaster that you would expect a psychic judge to predict...

Oh, like Fevy!

As I read the Simping Detective I noticed a strong similarity to the shape and form of the leader of the church of simpology overlooking the city and the 'beast' predicted by Fevy all those years ago (another judge child tie in as Dredd was with Hershey's flashback?)

I know City of the Damned exists but I'm happy to think in my own little way that this could get even BIGGER!!!

PS: I seriously just keep telling everyone about this all the time,,,I am positively boring!
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: Hawkmumbler 21 November, 2012, 07:43:35 PM
My view's on the prog can be summed up in a few words at the moment.

Dredd: Holy flying spit!

ABC Warriors: SNOOOOZZZZEEEE!

Low Life: Frank- !Well it was worth a try!"

Brass Sun: Incest. That explains it then.

Simping Detective: DEMARCO WHY?!

In more detail...Dredd and Low Life are shite hot right now. Oh boy, where those cliffhangers ones to remember. Simp is something of a guilty pleasure. Yeah, the DeMarco revelation was cheap and a bit crap (gotta remember I wasn't around when she left the force, so alot of the impact is lost on me) but Coleby's art is stunning as per, and Mr. Turner is a creepy sod. Gotta love an army of simps too. Presume there off to prepare for 'it' to arrive...
ABC lost interest age's ago. The presedent having his head shot in is all I wish to remember.
Brass Sun is great as usual, getting a tad TOO talky mind.
So over all, 2 Blighters, 1 Grower, 1 stumbling alittle, and 1 can jog on.
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: Richmond Clements 21 November, 2012, 07:55:05 PM
Well, I've been reading this comic since Prog 1, and that was one of the best episodes of Dredd I have ever read.
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: SmallBlueThing 21 November, 2012, 10:28:55 PM
What prog! Gorgeous cover, behind which lies a brilliant ABCs episode. Pat's having lot of fun here and while i much prefer Clint's colour digitally-rendered art, this is sufficiently thrill-powered to blow my circuits.

Dredd was quite simply one of the best Dredd episodes i've ever read. Ever. Can't wait to see what happens next! Low Life too- glorious. Not sure what the drokk Simping 'Tec is about, buit's saved by Sir Simon of Coleby's frankly incredible art. How can this be the same man responsible for 'the saharan ice-belt war'? Astonishing.

Brass Sun though, continues to be the unexpected tenner folded up small in your wallet that you forgot was there. I keep thinking it's slow and talky and not going anywhere, but then i realise we're sixty pages in and i'm not even pondering being bored of it. More- lots, lots more please Tharg. I'm assuming book one ends next week- can we not spin it off into it's own weekly?

Anyway- aside from the lack of letters, all good.

SBT
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: SmallBlueThing 21 November, 2012, 10:32:10 PM
"what a prog!", not "what prog!". And "but it's" not "buits". Fucking phone. Fucking lack of an edit function. Fucking sausage fingers.

SBT
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: Robert Frazer 22 November, 2012, 04:25:57 AM
Simping Detective - Hmm. Love this strip, but it always staggers a bit when Demarco's in it. Her declaration of love rings a bit insincerely given that the two characters have shared very little actual panel time together in this or previous adventures. I can see why Jack would fall for her, but why would she be so head over heels for him? That aside it's good stuff, and Coleby continues to play a blinder. Been great to have Jack back after too long away.

As you say, though, it's been a few years since the last Simping Detective Thrill, and it's not a stretch to think that their relationship advanced in the interim. Just like how Dredd doesn't only clock in to fight crime on Wednesdays, Point and DeMarco have probably had off-panel adventures.

DeMarco has shown a remarkable propensity to rush into really bad relationship decisions, too. After all, she's sidled up alongside:

1 - a corrupt Judge who tried to kill her.
2 - Dredd.
3 - recalling the Simping Detective text story, "a guy who goes 'flibble' on orgasm".

Hopefully some kind soul can introduce her to Halequin novels before she becomes enchanted with Otto Sump!
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: JOE SOAP 22 November, 2012, 08:15:16 AM
Hopefully some kind soul can introduce her to Halequin novels before she becomes enchanted with Otto Sump!


I hate to break it to you but Sump is dead.
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: NapalmKev 22 November, 2012, 09:32:25 AM
All-round fantastic Prog, every strip a winner.

Dirty Frank is absolutely excellent and easily the best story at the mo. Great script, amazing artwork. Quality!

Cheers  :)
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: Zarjazzer 22 November, 2012, 10:17:13 AM
I have a nice day off to peruse 1810 and the new Meg. Cool cover and Dredd has one of the most shocking final panels ever-how's he gonna get out of this? :o :-*

Dirty Frank was simply magnificent but Simping threw a bit of a wobbler with the lousy 'tec saved by love  I suppose it is noir-ish but anyway more good revelations about the church's evil plans.

Brass Sun was also good and ABC  had a lovely lead into the old stuff. 
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: Montynero 22 November, 2012, 11:51:15 AM
This is as fine a run of progs as I can remember.

Dredd, Dirty Frank, and Brass Sun take top honours this week. Thrilling, hilarious, and uplifting in turn.

Love Al's writing in particular. He's taking Dredd to new places, but without losing the old shool thrills. His scripts are all about telling the story and realising the world in as rich and dramatic a way as possible - just as it should be. And Henry is just the perfect 2000ad artist. They're an unbeatable 2000ad team.

I just don't want it to stop!
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: Goaty 22 November, 2012, 03:09:33 PM
Just pure wow....

Dredd is brilliant this year with Day of Chaos and Cold Deck!!!
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: Alien Goodness 22 November, 2012, 03:50:08 PM
Just when you think Dredd can't get any better, it does! The ending of this week's prog blew me away just as much as it blew Dredd away! I'm also enjoying the references to early 2000ADs such as the Judge Child epic (in last week's prog) and to Ro-Busters in this week's ABC Warriors.
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: Hawkmumbler 22 November, 2012, 07:02:18 PM
I'm also enjoying the references to early 2000ADs such as the Judge Child epic (in last week's prog) and to Ro-Busters in this week's ABC Warriors.
And where also being served something fresh and new like Brass Sun! Only with Toothy!
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: Spikes 22 November, 2012, 10:37:48 PM
As I read the Simping Detective I noticed a strong similarity to the shape and form of the leader of the church of simpology overlooking the city and the 'beast' predicted by Fevy all those years ago (another judge child tie in as Dredd was with Hershey's flashback?)

Interesting. Very interesting.

Finally got chance to have a right good read, and re-read of 1810, and then pondered on it all.
Dredd, well what can you say. Only quibble i can think of, is that it wasnt long enough. Love the panel showing Dredd, then pulling back to reveal the SJS's behind him.
Some nice 'butter wouldnt melt' expression's on show leading up to when Bachmann makes her play, as well

If its not too late to ask a query on this thread; Are the assassin's de-cloaking - ie some kind of invisibility thingy, and were there all along, or have they beamed in from somewhere else? I know teleporting has been mentioned a few times, so as a relative newb, how long has this technology been on the go, in Dredd's world? Not sure ive come across it being mentioned before, outside of the recent progs.

And that last panel, well - unless Dredd is Mr invincible...
 
Top edge of yer seat stuff - more please!

Lowlife, is just superb again and is vying with Brass Sun as my 2nd fave read at the moment. ABC Warriors is a pretty good episode again this week, for me its become a decent and largely a fun read these last few weeks, which leaves Simp, which on the first read left me cold, and i'd thought it was the weak link in a otherwise near perfect prog. Enjoyed it more on the re-read's, though its still confusing as hell.

Oh, how i envy those on here that have a subscription!
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: TordelBack 22 November, 2012, 10:48:06 PM
No pissing around this week: this Prog is straight into my all time Top Ten, probably somewhere around No. 5 or 6.  Out of 1810.  Beware, this gushing review is just one superlative after another, though none of them are intended to be hyperbolic: just the facts, man.

Any one of these episodes could not only be the best strip in any given 'standard' week, but the among the strongest of any standard year.  The Dredd alone is possibly the best ever episode not written by John Wagner, and places highly in the best ever episodes, its two companion strips each soaring away on their own merits and all three still gelling beautifully.  And this in what must be one of the strongest years ever for the character.

Incredibly even that is topped by a Ro-Busters ABC Warriors[/b] so improbably perfect that I wasn't sure if I was dreaming it even while I was reading it, and as if that wasn't enough it nestles under Langley's personal-best-ever cover.   

The sorbet in this incredible banquet, the bloody sorbet mind, is Brass Sun, a strip which itself is the best new story of the year, and an episode which delivers both on a broad canvass and in exquisite details - the panel of Conductor 17 gripping the back of Wren's jacket is as gobsmackingly brilliant as the shot of him holding her sleeve, and not her hand, as they run through the grass three weeks back. Stunning work.

The whole damn thing is just too good for words.  Other comics only exist to provide a bar that 2000AD can soar over with metres to spare*.


* Okay, maybe that one was hyperbole.  But just that one.


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: Robert Frazer 23 November, 2012, 04:44:12 AM
And that last panel, well - unless Dredd is Mr invincible...

The shots are on the right side of his body, which means that his heart is intact - he'll pull through. Alas, my cynicism deadens me to drama - sorry, Tharg.  :( 

If nothing else, Dred'll be around long enough to tell Hershey "I told you so!" at least.
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: Colin YNWA 23 November, 2012, 06:26:13 AM
And that last panel, well - unless Dredd is Mr invincible...

The shots are on the right side of his body, which means that his heart is intact - he'll pull through. Alas, my cynicism deadens me to drama - sorry, Tharg.  :( 

If nothing else, Dred'll be around long enough to tell Hershey "I told you so!" at least.

I have to say in this case I agree. That's not to say its not a great episode, or that the end isn't exciting but we've seen this type of thing often enough.
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: IndigoPrime 23 November, 2012, 10:45:30 AM
Dredd got shot through the head in the Cal saga. I'm sure next issue he'll be channelling Python: "Tis but a flesh wound!"
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: Richmond Clements 23 November, 2012, 10:53:01 AM
Yeah - I don't think it ever crossed my min that Dredd would actually die. The shock comes from the fact she actually shot him.
This story is so good at wrong footing, part of me is wondering if this is part of Dredd's plan too..!
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: paddykafka 23 November, 2012, 11:02:14 AM
I reckon that the Dredd and SJS cannon fodder shot by Bachmann and Co were actually robots, sent in as decoys on a sting operation. The real Dredd then teleports into the room and arrests her. (But then, I'm sneaky that way - Mwa! Ha! Ha! Ha!)
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: Colin YNWA 23 November, 2012, 11:21:06 AM
I reckon that the Dredd and SJS cannon fodder shot by Bachmann and Co were actually robots, sent in as decoys on a sting operation. The real Dredd then teleports into the room and arrests her. (But then, I'm sneaky that way - Mwa! Ha! Ha! Ha!)

If that was the case I think they'd have made the wounds more obviously fatal in the last panel this week. I think the way they are placed means they count as 'Sinister Dexter shoulder wounds'...

... mind I bet in real life getting shot there (where Dredd was) would be pretty damned fault most the time! (?)
: Re: PROG 1810: RoBusters The Disaster Squad of Distinction - Assemble
: Goaty 23 November, 2012, 11:21:59 AM
And Dredd was shoot in gut weeks ago by Sov sleeper!!
: Re: PROG 1810: RoBusters The Disaster Squad of Distinction - Assemble
: Dark Jimbo 23 November, 2012, 12:04:02 PM
The shots are on the right side of his body, which means that his heart is intact - he'll pull through. Alas, my cynicism deadens me to drama - sorry, Tharg.  :( 

Well, obviously he'll pull through. Like Rich says, I don't think a single one of us expects Dredd to die next prog, but that doesn't mean it can't be a shocking moment.

First there's the mere fact that it happened, out of the blue. Then there's the fun of speculation regarding how he'll pull through; what the reprucussions will be; what Bachman's going to do next, etc.
: Re: PROG 1810: RoBusters The Disaster Squad of Distinction - Assemble
: Dominic O'Rourke 23 November, 2012, 12:06:33 PM
I can't get my 'I Told You So' T-Shirt out of the wash just yet, but those rockets causing Mr Overdrives lunar city to take off at the end of Low Life, ....

I'm re-reading all my old progs at the moment, just finished the Judge Child story, and came across a one shot with the Nightmare gun, the self referencing over the last six months has been tremendous and I'm still picking up on stuff on the second read through.
: Re: PROG 1810: RoBusters The Disaster Squad of Distinction - Assemble
: Steve Green 23 November, 2012, 01:08:24 PM
As for the teleport thing - I think it all came about from the Dark Judges D-Jump tech, as they also teleported from block to block.

The Judda also had it, as did Trapper Hag, and turning up in a story where there were teleport booths with citizens disappearing.

So it's fairly common by now.
: Re: PROG 1810: RoBusters The Disaster Squad of Distinction - Assemble
: Jim_Campbell 23 November, 2012, 02:10:35 PM
There were teleporters in all the sector houses in City of the Damned, whose dateline has come and gone…

Cheers

Jim
: Re: PROG 1810: RoBusters The Disaster Squad of Distinction - Assemble
: Frank 23 November, 2012, 04:40:52 PM
I can't get my 'I Told You So' T-Shirt out of the wash just yet, but those rockets causing Mr Overdrives lunar city to take off at the end of Low Life, ....

Smell; I cried when you caught Shaun shagging that posh actress and you split up. If at the end of the current crossover, we're left with a perfectly functional drag-and-drop city just going spare, where do you think they'll stick it? I suppose Justice Department could commandeer the mobile metropolis to save themselves (and the writers) the effort of rebuilding the ruined sectors of MC1, but isn't the former location of MC2 still effectively a shovel-ready brownfield site, just ripe for development?
: Re: PROG 1810: RoBusters The Disaster Squad of Distinction - Assemble
: Dark Jimbo 23 November, 2012, 04:48:14 PM
The problem isn't really that there's nowhere to live, though. Most of the city is still intact. The problem is that almost everyone's dead.*


*And thinking about that now, couldn't Chaos Day prove to be a blessing in disguise? With such a drastically reduced population, the Meg has a realistic shot at reaching full employment levels for the first time in living memory.
: Re: PROG 1810: RoBusters The Disaster Squad of Distinction - Assemble
: Proudhuff 23 November, 2012, 04:51:48 PM
You are a Tory Cabinet Minister and I claim my five pounds
: Re: PROG 1810: RoBusters The Disaster Squad of Distinction - Assemble
: Richmond Clements 23 November, 2012, 05:09:19 PM
You are a Tory Cabinet Minister and I claim my five pounds
LIKE
: Re: PROG 1810: RoBusters The Disaster Squad of Distinction - Assemble
: Frank 23 November, 2012, 06:05:55 PM
You are a Tory Cabinet Minister and I claim my five pounds
LIKE

I've been voted out of the jungle. If anyone wants me I'll be over here, eating a kangaroo's arsehole.
: Re: PROG 1810: RoBusters The Disaster Squad of Distinction - Assemble
: A.Cow 23 November, 2012, 06:28:09 PM
With such a drastically reduced population, the Meg has a realistic shot at reaching full employment levels for the first time in living memory.

Erm...  With such a drastically reduced population, who is going to buy the goods they produce & sell?  I'd suggest that the unemployment is caused by over-efficient technology rather than population size.

Am I taking this too seriously?
: Re: PROG 1810: RoBusters The Disaster Squad of Distinction - Assemble
: Frank 23 November, 2012, 09:58:47 PM
With such a drastically reduced population, the Meg has a realistic shot at reaching full employment levels for the first time in living memory.

Erm...  With such a drastically reduced population, who is going to buy the goods they produce & sell?  I'd suggest that the unemployment is caused by over-efficient technology rather than population size. Am I taking this too seriously?

We all are, A Cow. I'd imagine that what little existing employment there was in MC1 before Chaos Day was already in the service, cultural and maybe the financial and care sectors - two of those sectors might actually thrive in the current circumstances. If the authorities decide that preventing idle hands from doing the devil's work is more important than balancing the books, they could follow the Keynesian philosophy endorsed by the Roosevelt and Nazi administrations of the 1930's and borrow heavily to finance state employment of their citizens in large public infrastructure projects - that ended well.

Didn't someone here suggest that the Department could offer tax breaks to firms which prioritise human labour?
: Re: PROG 1810: RoBusters The Disaster Squad of Distinction - Assemble
: W. R. Logan 23 November, 2012, 11:07:28 PM
Just wondering if a writers page rate goes down if he re-tells a story that he's written before.
: Re: PROG 1810: RoBusters The Disaster Squad of Distinction - Assemble
: A.Cow 24 November, 2012, 12:15:32 AM
Just wondering if a writers page rate goes down if he re-tells a story that he's written before.

Would that mean they'd be getting Anderson, Psi Division for free?
: Re: PROG 1810: RoBusters The Disaster Squad of Distinction - Assemble
: Modern Panther 24 November, 2012, 05:27:36 PM
Dredd: Frank: Simp - the threads are highlighted again for those who missed them the first time.  This really is comic writing at its finest, with different styles blending seamlessly into one beautiful whole.  It's also wonderfully MC1, with a plan and villian who are at once entirely believable and utterly nuts.  After the high quality of DOC, I expected a lull as writers got used to the post chaos world, but this is amongst the best dreddworld story I've read.

BrassSun seems to have lost a few of its early fans, but i'm still loving it.  As with Mr Edginton's other worlds,i feel that we are being shown the heavily edited version of a story that would have run to thousands of wonderful pages if he could get away with it.  The Gormenghast/Dune clockwork universe is inspired.

ABC Warriors continues to continue, stripmining nostalgia for all its worth.  War, it seems, is hell and people are generally shitty to each other, especially the ones with power.  The flashback framing opens huge opportunity for continuing tales, like how RoJaws ended up on a second hand droid store after discovering nefarious business practices whilst cleaning out the bins of some blackhearted oil multinational, and how Joe Pineapples was once a kindergarden teacher before a local councillor accused him of being a terrorist because he didn't separate his recycling properly.
: Re: PROG 1810: RoBusters The Disaster Squad of Distinction - Assemble
: Proudhuff 27 November, 2012, 01:01:27 PM
With such a drastically reduced population, the Meg has a realistic shot at reaching full employment levels for the first time in living memory.

Erm...  With such a drastically reduced population, who is going to buy the goods they produce & sell?  I'd suggest that the unemployment is caused by over-efficient technology rather than population size. Am I taking this too seriously?

We all are, A Cow. I'd imagine that what little existing employment there was in MC1 before Chaos Day was already in the service, cultural and maybe the financial and care sectors - two of those sectors might actually thrive in the current circumstances. If the authorities decide that preventing idle hands from doing the devil's work is more important than balancing the books, they could follow the Keynesian philosophy endorsed by the Roosevelt and Nazi administrations of the 1930's and borrow heavily to finance state employment of their citizens in large public infrastructure projects - that ended well.

Didn't someone here suggest that the Department could offer tax breaks to firms which prioritise human labour?

TL DR